I have seen 2300 mark, 2400 u really need a chip which can push around 107blck+ .. Most chips can run dimms @ 2k-2200..
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5Ghz 1.36 in bios! Fully Stable in Prime 26.4 12hours 30mins on Small FFT'S!
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/8...hz7117281t.png
whau, very nice! Where is the absolute maximum your chip? Did u try with example 1.5V max stability?
@bro20000 thats a awesome clock for 24/7 usage.. Really golden chip bro!
Max have taken my chip to is 5.2 1.42v runs vantage perfect just not tryed prime yet! Waiting till i get a chiller for going above 1.45 and on! Thanks am really happy having this chip Batch number L040B307!
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/9238/...mhz686261t.png
nice oc! I know that raise bclk could damaged the cpu, but lower it to say 98 and raise multi to 51x, could it damage the cpu by reduce the bclk?
Thx
I was trying out cas6 memory Freq! Highest i can get Bclk is 107! I keep mine at 98 for 24/7!
Well I've determined my L045A998 is fully game stable at 100x50, 4988 mhz or something, at all auto voltages (which bios sets to 1.390, though I think that this is actually 1.4v, because Prime bluescreened in 30 seconds when I manually set it to 1.385v) except LLC must be set to level 1 on my UD5 (otherwise windows won't load thanks to the vdroop) and PLL overvolt enabled. CPU-Z shows 1.416v idle, 1.440v load under Rybka 4, and 1.452v-1.460v under Prime. I only run Prime for a few minutes AT MOST because the temps get too close to 90C, and I'm not going to break or degrade my chip trying to prime at high temps. Deep Rybka 4 Chess engine, with 4 cores/8T reaches about 75C max and runs forever, which is a good sign of real world stability. Black Ops doesn't even break a sweat.
No idea why LLC level 1 RAISES The vcore that much. Thought only LLC level 2 was supposed to do that...
I should note that with HT disabled, Rybka 4 reaches 66C instead of 75C.
POSTS at 5.2 ghz with all auto voltages (bios reads 1.395), but I don't even WANT to know what vcore that needs to load windows. Probably like 1.5v to run games, which I'm not going to try.
Chip runs at all auto voltages (even with LLC disabled) at 4.5 ghz...everything auto (had Overvolt PLL enabled btw).
So I have a scenario with my 2500k where at 4.9ghz and 1.385 vcore the system is linx stable (20 runs, all memory used, SP1 not loaded), OCCT blend stable (I let it run 4 hrs then stopped it), and memtest86+ stable (I let it run for 5 complete passes then stopped it). It fails prime (version 26.4) blend, usually within 1 hour with a stop 124 blue screen. It also crashes with handbrake video encoding with a stop 124 blue screen.
I increased vcore to 1.395 and now it encodes video without errors so far, but still bluescreens with prime blend. It also bluescreens and freezes in games at this increased vcore.
At 1.415 vcore I'm still crashing with prime blend.
So what is the logical next step if I want to keep running at 4.9ghz? Keep increasing vcore until I'm prime blend stable? Or would prime small fft's be more diagnostically useful? My memory (2 x 4gb gskill sticks) in all cases is at 1600mhz with stock timings and voltage.
Attempting to achieve overclocked real world stability with these Sandies is taxing my feeble brain. With previous generation intel chips, it seemed to me that linx and OCCT stability were usually within a couple of vcore notches of prime blend stability, and I don't recall ever having stability issues if I could prime blend for 12+ hours without errors. I wonder if I should still be aiming for prime blend stability as my gold standard of real world stability. I did try loading up SP1 and using linx with avx, but my temps on air cooling (mid 80's) made me uncomfortable and I stopped before achieving the requisite vcore to be linx + avx stable.
I don't want to concede defeat yet at 4.9ghz!!!:mad:
FWIW, I'm on a Biostar TP67XE and I was using offset vcore with LLC off and just kept having to add vcore to get prime blend almost stable. Seemed like it would never end.
When I switched to FIXED vcore and LLC on I was able to get prime blend stable at 4.8GHz 1.416V load.
Of course, now the thing randomly blue screens at idle. :shrug:
This is a bit strange, but that stop 124 blue screen is suggesting RAM/IMC/Uncore-problem, but since you have passed memtest86+, your RAM should be OK.
So, probably it's a IMC/Uncore-problem (that's the equivalent of "System Agent" or VCCSA/VCCIO-problem on SB). This gets more likely when adding vCore doesn't help, and Prime Blend would react to that too.
Make sure your LLC is not bugging tho. Intel recommends standard LLC.
EDIT:
Try to run a HyperPi32M, that's a good and fast test for pushing Uncore/IMC.
Here's mine!
http://www.abload.de/thumb/50032c77.png
http://www.abload.de/thumb/37609ii3x.png
52 Multi
Not really much point trying that test! System being updated tomorrow morning with G.Skill DDR3 PC3-17600 Cas 7 2200MHz RipjawsX!http://www.memoryc.com/products/desc...nel/index.html
Thing is on G.skill website they shown with black heatsinks so am not sure what colour am getting!
http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=374
That's bizarre...do you remember if the blue screens are a stop 124 error or something else? I'm on an ASUS p8p67 evo mobo using fixed vcore and LLC set one notch below extreme (ultra high or something like that). You were able to get linx + avx stable though, correct?
I was wondering about an uncore/system agent issue, but I thought OCCT blend might have flushed that out too. In any event, I'll try hyperpi and report back. I could also play with VccSA and VccIO, although ugotd8 and some others have reported that it hasn't particularly helped them. Not sure what a good ceiling voltage for either of those settings is anyway.
I could always turn off the LLC too and see what that does. I would have thought that a flaky LLC would cause it to crump in Linx though. Not necessarily?
Hi,
here is my i5-2500K. Batch# is L039B120. Tested on air (Scythe Ninja 3) with GA-P67A-UD4.
5001MHz Prime Custom FFTs in-place 1.5h Run:
http://www.abload.de/thumb/5001prime0m71.jpg
5501MHz Super PI 1m Run:
http://www.abload.de/thumb/5500-pi1mumnv.jpg
:wave:
I am also having weird stability issues. At 48x100 and 47x100 (haven't checked other multis) no matter what vcore I use it fails prime blend almost instantly (BSOD) but I am completely stable with all other stability tests (linx w/ avx, futuremark, gaming, etc). It's only a problem with prime95 so I just don't run it anymore, lol.
I was ready to just ignore the prime blend instability too in light of all the other tests I could pass, but I will periodically blue screen during gaming, so I'm wondering if there might be something that the prime failure is picking up that has real world application consequences.
my friend`s cpu have same batch id but him cpu need 0.1 less voltage than me for same clock.
i have ud4 and he have p8p67 pro. batch id mean nothing or Gigabyte suck?
here my max oc batch L036B120T
http://i53.tinypic.com/33mprh1.jpg
LO39B214
Almost done with my testing here...
My 24/7 settings will be 4.6ghz 1.35V
Everyting in the bios was left as DEFAULT, AUTO, OR STOCK, except for:
By all Cores
46
CPU Voltage 1.35V
RAM Voltage 1.5V
I was able to test 4.8ghz 1.4V with Prime95 for 1H using the IN PLACE LARGE FFTs test but I'm not confortable with 1.4V. However, I experienced some voltage drops as low as 1.376V
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...n23/48ghz3.png
great for me too about the same , 4.6 ghz will require 1.35-1.375 to be full stable , 4.7 Ghz 1.4.-1.425 and 4.8 Ghz 1.45-1.47 , interesting to see that the core still responding well to voltage and giving more stable clock , strange but look those chip like voltage hope they can handle 1.4-1.45v for long (lol 1 year or so)
They will probably not keep the speed if you guys keep abusing them with LinX(SP1)+AVX/prime at these voltages. Several people (including C-N and the author of the ud7 overclock guide) have gotten degrading overclocks after abusing the chips with repeated stress testing. After seeing this, I'm not going to run prime at high voltages anymore; it's just not worth risking the chip. I'd rather game for a day rather than burn my chip out running prime for 24 hours...
I've never been a fan of stressing a CPU with these programs...in fact none of my previous rigs have ever been Prime stable for long, not even 5 minutes for my last Q6600 @ 3.6ghz, yet it almost never crashed on me.
This last build has been very unstable, it even BSOD on me while watcing a movie or trying to reply to a thread (did happen) so for the 1st time I felt the need to test it some more with Prime95 and other stressing software.
Yeah I'm ok with this too. I degraded too many chips from stress testing in the past.
I'm at 24/7 at 4 ghz for now. 4.5 ghz works with all auto even with LLC off.
At 5 ghz, I just run my 8 thread chess engine for a stress test. If that doesn't crash or error out, I'm usually good to go in any other game. I wouldn't mind using Prime, but NOT at 90C. And that is with a Venemous-X, too. I actually tried my TRUE Black (the mount was EXTREMELY secure and it refused to swivel at all), and some MX4, and the temps were slightly worse. Went back to my Ven-X (which does swivel if I apply pressure, but is otherwise secure), and tried Chill factor 3 (apparently this is the same as MX3), and had slightly better temps than even MX4.
I guess the high temps is due to the overvolt to 1.456 during load. Fan is a 103cfm panaflo. Maybe I'll try my 190cfm Delta later, but I doubt that will do much due to how FAST the temps reach 80C.
I had a nice full map rotation marathon on Black Ops last night at 5 ghz. Felt great not having the FPS EVER Drop below 100 when the spam started going off...
So total vcore needed for load stability seems to be around 1.45v for 5 ghz with LLC overvolt from 1.4 (manual)/1.39v (auto) bios setting).
Stuck @ 51/52 multi max... air or SS:(
All the same batch @ Micro Center Yonkers NY last week
http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/3...nshot001mw.jpg
It is what it is & what you call it depends on how you look at it. I don’t see it as degrading as such its more like maturing to true stability. I would rather beat the golden edge off a chip in a few weeks than have to add a vcore bump every month for 6 months. I don’t like the D word & think many people have called a chip degraded when they were close to the top of what a chip could do temp wise only to find it wont do it anymore as it needs more voltage they cant cool.... SB is different my chip still does 5GHz @ 1.45v load CPU-Z & still runs in the mid 70's on air in my front room with a 15~20 ambient.:)
2600k In Da House. Batch# L040B165 :).
http://img.techpowerup.org/110125/Capture086.jpg
Finally found my babe, but still no MB.
Still trying to find a good MB for a compact build, but I'm torn apart between ASRock P67 Extreme6 , ASUS P8P67-M PRO or the little cute ZOTAC H67ITX-A-E.
I know, it's all over the place, LOL, I'm going to use a few days to decide between size and OC-headroom .
batch L036B120T ,Asus p8p67pro, my 24/7 clocks
I'm sorry I am too lazy for screenshots but for the sake of adding more info to this thread here are my chip stats:
L040B165
4.7 @ 1.32volts PLL Overvolt OFF
4.8 @ 1.38volts PLL Overvolt ON
4.9 @ 1.45volts PLL Overvolt ON
Those settings are Prime and Linx stable. I run 4.7 because I do not believe the PLL Overvolt setting to be safe for 24/7.
batch#L040B671
4.9-1.4v
5.0-1.45v
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/9743/51135390.jpg
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I ran Hyperpi32m and it completed without any problems. I also was able to game last night for a few hours at my prime unstable 4.9ghz with 1.395 vcore. The night before I was bluescreening with games within a half hour at those exact same settings. Still prime unstable though. There's nothing more vexing than inconsistent instability!
Hey One-Hertz, did prime stability require significantly more vcore than linx stability? Did you run prime blend or small fft's, and for how long?Quote:
Originally Posted by One_Hertz
Heh, lucky man, I have opposite problem, board in the house, CPU not :)
http://www.ulozisko.sk/obrazky/363843/deska22.jpg
LOL, I would send the CPU to you, but not that batch#. I have to try that babe myself. :rofl:
You went the wrong way. It's a good idea to hunt-down a good early-batch and wait for MB-laboratory-rabbits to iron out MB-bugs.
Usually I buy Intel CPU at the first day, because early-batch#s tend to have a better OC-headroom.
But in this round, I've studied CPU-laboratory-rabbits in several days, and then hunted down this baby.
Pretty cool, I got my components yesterday. I'm from Norway (currently live in sweden), and my batch on the CPU is #L040B167 ;)
The little sh** clocks like there was no tomorrow - my first inital test it did 4.9Ghz / vcore 1.385 / Internal PLL enabled / Extreme profiles.
I love this new generation, I was actually a bit disappointed they changed overclocking methods this drastically - but it has certainly made me change my mind!
I just took delivery of my CPU, which may be the newest in this thread. To be built with a GD65 and 4Gb XMS3 when I get home from work:
i5 -2500K
L049A796
Anyone know what the significance of the A is? Most other CPUs in this thread have a B in that place.
/Edit/ 45x100 set in BIOS seems stable at 1.25V. CPU-Z shows 1.225V idle and 1.264V under Prime95 load. MSI Control Center has 1.2150V displayed. All other voltages on Auto with Vdroop control on low.
Different cpu wafer, production sample. CPU production is divided in unequal wafers as their lifecycle advance.
http://www.treehugger.com/intel-cpu-wafer-d001.jpg
In a perfect world, all end-users would get a production sample from the inner parts of the wafer, as they have the least flaws.
As you get to the outer area of the wafer the % increases, although Intel has a limit of "fault tolerance" for each batch.
2500k L042B291 4.8ghz@1.35v passed linx. Gonna try a 5ghz run.
edit: just a average batch. looking like i'll need 1.37v just to get 4.8ghz 24/7 stable / 8hrs prime stable.
Was going to ask the same question, I remember older chips having wafer number (apparently) & it was thought better to get a lower number. I have had very low number chips & found them no better than mid no chips so didn’t go much on it. SB now has a number printed on the board again maybe this is the wafer number & for fun I would like to know which number is from the centre of the wafer.... is it like 0 or 500 in a 1000 scale for arguments sake???
Well mine said 998 for the last three numbers, and it has no problem doing 5 ghz at 1.39v bios (1.44 load), and 1.25'ish at 4.5 ghz...
998 should be the worst of the worst, from that logic...
The wafer has an impact too, but I believe Intel can enforce a QA on these chips, pretty firmly.
These variations in OC-headroom seams to be deliberate. Intel tend to produce good chips in a short periods ( it was week 46 to 49 for i7-45nm), but then it starts going done, usually. In last round, Intel had kept some week-48-batch# in storage for over 1 year, and used them for W3565 (If I remember the number right, but anyways, those chips were meant for a new push in sales, with good OC-headrooms)-
I believe the week-of-production-number and A, B, or C is more important than that wafer-quality theory.
2600K L042B076
http://www.abload.de/img/4.5ghz-1gmjn.png
actually the maximum on air
http://www.abload.de/img/56007ma9.png
OMG what a nice cpu!!! Chri$ch !!!
What kind of memory are you using?
I can only get: 933 : T2-8-10-9-22-90-10-5-5-5-26-6-3-36-36 out of my Corsair XMS3 2x4GB PC16000 (2000MHz 1.65v). (higer CPU,IO,SA,Mem or PPL voltages did not help to get T1 or other tighter timings stable.)
Or 1600 T1-7-8-7-20 but the 1866 setting is faster and lower in latency.
I also need 1.28v for a stable 4.5 :'( I got a L042B074. I hope my next 2600K will do better because this sux..... I want 1866 8-9-8 T1 and lower voltages. I cant even run 5.0 1.45v stable. its aint the worst CPU but there are a lot that do way better :P
I wonder what mem speeds you will hit. I'm not doing verry well with the XMS3 on a GD65
True but there is alway's a chance that you get a chip with almost no defects from the outer circle. Your chip is indeed better then average.
Batch# L040B165
2600k @4.5GHz(45x100) 1.27v 1-hour Prime Small FFT :)
http://img.techpowerup.org/110128/Capture015.jpg
@ Astennu
i use 2 kits of these kits
http://geizhals.at/deutschland/a606014.html
Good ? :
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/7267/apetite.jpg
What about :
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/2932/5100x.jpg
I'm still testing, but even passed 1run with this volts... I almost had an orgasm :clap:
why do you set LinX only to "4 Threads"? That doesn't say so something about stability.
if you run it only like this you can disable HT in Bios...
Yeah good one, that's a really good vCore for that speed.
You where posting ~1.425v for @5Ghz before. What happen?
Have you discovered something new, that you can share. or you where pushing too much vCore without testing with less before?
EDIT:
Oh I see Chri$ch's point, he just posted while I was writing this. You are running the LinX at 50%, that doesn't mean stable.
Guys guys, LinX with SP1 and AVX, runing in 4 threads is harder then LinX on 8 threads. I've allready posted here ( I think ) something about it.
Watts with 8 threads will go something like 110W, with 4threads will go as high as 136W. It also shows up on temps, where I get somthing like +8ºC.
The post I was talking about, it was with a different CPU but still true.
I changed CPU. Both have the same batch but this second one has been proving it self a better one.
Thanks, will do. But with 5.1 down the line I'm putting my efforts for this mark now^^
If 4threads-LinX is harder than 8threads, then something is really wrong with LinX.
I don't know what's going on with LinX, but it was the same stuff with 980x too, until they fixed it later.
Did you try Prime Small FFT with 8threads? That should give a better indication, then.
Maybe your new CPU is better, and hopefully it is, but you wouldn't know before testing it with Prime.
4.95Ghz 1056Mhz 6-10-6-27 1T Linx stable!
http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/9...6106271tli.png
Before Ram slot one died!
sandy bridge die size: 20.5mm x 9.9mm
sandy bridge wafer: 300mm
@ st0ned
i don´t see a difference..
LinX 4 Threads = ~215-235W
LinX 8 Threads = ~225-238W
Prime 26.4 Custom = ~224-234W
And yes, i have SP1 installed and get ~120G/Flops @ 4.5GHz with only 4 Threads ;)
Thanks. So it seems 4 modules work better then the 2x4gb setups. It was different in the past... :)
Its all useless.... I was prime stable (custom 960K and i stopped it myself) for more then a hour. And when playing SC2 it still crashed on me. Its hard to really stress test SB.
I wonder if Chrish's OCing is also possible on the P8P67 Pro also or is the Maximus IV Extreme really that good in OCing any CPU?
Over 2 hours Prime 95 stable at 4.6Ghz. 1.255V set in BIOS. The voltage issue above still in effect.
http://i.imgur.com/ANE3ul.jpg
Can i ask you what was your QPI on 5.6ghz ? I m new to this Intel new cpu's and really i m a bit lost with the QPI voltage, with I7950 or 980, the qpi was around 1.355 for my ram with a 4.4ghz oc, and with it, it boot on 1.05V and stable @5ghz ( same ram used ) .. really low... i don't know how it react on increase it. or not.
Guys, are there many of you getting the fabled 50x or higher out of your cpus? Chri$ch has a beauty but how many more out there are so good? Is there a good batch to watch for? Do we have a thread here discussing this? My D1 ES is good for 47x so while its not the worst its far from the best too.
Any help would be great.
:up:
My L040B208 can do 5600 also pretty easy on water.
wow I want one, but that isnt correct vcore right surely .....
So 54x is max for you?
Chri$ch - if you dont mind - what batch is yours?
No I only wish it was. That was at 1.60v bios with f6c bios. 56 multi is no problem though 57 is a no go on this chip.
Has anyone tried a L051A954 or L051A964 ?
Astennu - this has me very concerned, your cpu is near identical batch to Chri$ch's lovely one but yours performs much worse, this will make buying a cpu very tough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Astennu
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/2010/510023runs.jpg
:clap::clap::clap:
I'm almost sure I can even lower vCore:yepp:
@ aussie-revhead
the batch isn't a indicator for a good CPU... ;)
there good and bad cpus at every batch.
@ st0ned
nice CPU but why so low GFlops? i get ~120GFlops at 4.5GHz. Are you shure that it not throttle or something like this?!
Chri$ch - is there any way to assist in making a semi-educated choice ? Or is it purely luck? Yours is a cracker, have you seen any better than yours?
:up:
I was just trying some things and my cpu seems to like benching no higher than 4950 regardless of what combination of multi and bclk you use to get there. I was benching up til now at 47x105.4 , I just had it running at 51x98 (4998mhz) but it wouldnt take load there.
Interestingly Asus Auto Tune got this setup to 4939 (47x105.3) so I thought it would have a bit left in it, I was surprised to find I can hardly get any higher than the utility, has asus learned our habits that easily and become as good at this as we try to be?
Also: I found this batch locally - L041B204 - is this a good one? Does anyone here have one?
benny here has this batch and it proved quite good, but I guess another one even with the same batch might not be so good right?
:)
@ Chri$ch... You have two nice samples (chips) from two of the stronger batch(s) #L040B308 and L042B076. :up:
I agree that batch# is not always an indicator of a strong cpu. I think with the smaller SB chip size and the large wafer size Intel is able to bin many more average samples. Strong ones are out there but they are not easy to find. I tested one 2600K batch that had an easy 300Mhz difference between samples with the same BIOS settings.
Figuring out Intel's core-business is not a easy task.
These chips doesn't have the same OC-headroom, for sure, but what makes that difference is as tricky each time. We will hopefully figure it out soon, LOL.
Well I dont have words for how happy I am atm... I almost jizz in my pants:rofl:
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/1821/5200c.jpg
Low memory, right
Low Gflops = low mem freq.
What batch is that?
Very nice indeed mate.
:up:
guys anyone bought a few days ago a I2600k from newegg ? what batch did you get ? a friend bough it from me on FL
cheers all
Sergio
congrats on the good results mates !
L042B076, but guess this is a golden sample :D
I've two L042B076, both are good clockers, the 1st one I've allready put some screens here of him, can go for 5Ghz with 1.424v. The 2nd one is just this insane b*tch :D
Uhm I dont really like where this is going, I aint cheating for the good sake of it. Just LinX 4threads is faster ( +Gflops ) and it also pulls more watts out of the CPU ( read about it on this topic, I've allready talked about this ). So for a fast stability test ( that was what I wanted on my 1st attempt for 5.2 ) it was just fine.
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/6371/5200prime.jpg
I've to improve my cooling but it was running just fine, I just dont like to go higher then 70ºC on this one...
I'll work on a longer prime run, also I'm having some MB issues ( I think ), runing mem at high speeds at this freqs ( I was allready having some at 5.1 ) seems to get harder and harder.
Btw, setup pic: http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/9738/setupmt.jpg
what's you Vcore in bios?
you lucky dog..you are
Im not saying you are cheating. But what I am saying, for the sake of a good screenshot, LinX run at 100% load 99% of time the test is running, how hard is it to get a screen showing 100% load, that and the low gflops makes for a not so good screen.
I understand completely though running only 4 threads, I had to do that on my Bloomfield to keep temps down.
All 4 screens 5ghz or above are running at 50%, great timing. :up:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=458
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=479
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=486
Really lucky :D
I'm using offset mode, +0.01v with Extreme LLC.
Settings @ bios :
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/4302/bios1z.jpg
http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/9960/bios2p.jpg
I was runing Ht ON, with linx only runing in 4 threds, so 50% it's normal...
4threads vs 8threads post
L041C108 I just bought one from a guy on eBay that has 3 new in box retails - anyone hear about this batch?
Gflops take mem in to account, and look at mine... 663 10-11-10-28...
My mem kit is only a CL9 1600 one, and when you go above 5.0Ghz mems get really in the way, high freqs are really hard.
I can't do 800Mhz CL9 9-9-9-24 1T, I get a 0x000001E as soon as I start something stressfull