[XS]Just got Phenom II x6 1055T (Retail)

Hello there
just bought 1090T tonight at Golden Shopping Center
Phenom II x6 1090T HKD $ 2,599 (~$335USD)
However as I don't have a spare board (waiting for ASUS Crosshair IV Formula, which will be available within the week)

Default VCore bootable 4.2GHz with Biostar 880G

There are few interesting point
- Phenom II x6 got HT default as 2.2GHz , not 2GHz
- NB still stay as 2GHz
- Same Stock Cooler as Phenom II x4 955/965BE/1055T
- Unlocked Multipler (YES , you hear that right , what the hell AMD got "Black Edition" to have locked multipler !!!)

I will get more testing when I get my hands on Crosshair IV :)

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Originally Posted by =SOC= Admiral

Didn't they integrate it into the functions of Cool and Quite.

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no they didn't, i'm afraid we're gonna have to sit and wait for MSI to update their bioses :shakes:

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Originally Posted by imamage

Hello there
just bought 1090T tonight at Golden Shopping Center
Phenom II x6 1090T HKD $ 2,599 (~$335USD)
However as I don't have a spare board (waiting for ASUS Crosshair IV Formula, which will be available within the week)

Default VCore bootable 4.2GHz with Biostar 880G

There are few interesting point
- Phenom II x6 got HT default as 2.2GHz , not 2GHz
- NB still stay as 2GHz
- Same Stock Cooler as Phenom II x4 955/965BE/1055T
- Unlocked Multipler (YES , you hear that right , what the hell AMD got "Black Edition" to have locked multipler !!!)

I will get more testing when I get my hands on Crosshair IV :)

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Tests please!!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by ridney

no they didn't, i'm afraid we're gonna have to sit and wait for MSI to update their bioses :shakes:

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I had put a support ticket into MSI for the bios we should use and this is the response I got back.

Thank you for contacting MSI Technical Support. Regarding your concern, if your bios version is 1.xx, then you should update latest 1.a for 1055T from this link: bios http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=do...1754&type=bios

Best regards,
MSI Technical Support Team

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Originally Posted by =SOC= Admiral

I had put a support ticket into MSI for the bios we should use and this is the response I got back.

Thank you for contacting MSI Technical Support. Regarding your concern, if your bios version is 1.xx, then you should update latest 1.a for 1055T from this link: bios http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=do...1754&type=bios

Best regards,
MSI Technical Support Team

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i have already tried that and the latest 1b1 beta bios but they don't have the option to disable "Turbo"

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Originally Posted by imamage

Hello there
- Unlocked Multipler (YES , you hear that right , what the hell AMD got "Black Edition" to have locked multipler !!!)

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I'm guessing there's some kind of language barrier here?

Are you saying that the BE actually has a locked multiplier? That it's 16x and cannot be changed? That doesn't jive with the 1090T shown here doing 200x20.

http://s783.photobucket.com/albums/y...ent=IASPC5.jpg

Hmmm.

@Richierich - Is that overclock stable with Prime 95 and is that Vcore safe to run at 24/7?

There was a rumour of 1090T and 1090T BE both being available tho ...

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Originally Posted by AMD-C

I'm guessing there's some kind of language barrier here?

Are you saying that the BE actually has a locked multiplier? That it's 16x and cannot be changed? That doesn't jive with the 1090T shown here doing 200x20.

http://s783.photobucket.com/albums/y...ent=IASPC5.jpg

Hmmm.

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1090T is unlocked

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Originally Posted by ohms

@Richierich - Is that overclock stable with Prime 95 and is that Vcore safe to run at 24/7?

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Nope haven't really tried yet. And I wouldn't want to run it this high 24/7, but it has Cool 'N Quiet on by default (can't disable it).

:wierd:
I've got my new 1090T... But I have to wait for a new BIOS... :shakes:

I've ordered a 1055T that should be here Tuesday. I will see how high I can get on dry ice. May be interesting without an unlocked multiplier.

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Originally Posted by imamage

Default VCore bootable 4.2GHz with Biostar 880G

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is that turbo 4.2 or x6 at 4.2? and whats the default vcore? so many details are needed to make sure theres a clear understanding of what the setting are, with CnQ and Turbo messing with everything

http://richierich1212.smugmug.com/ph...3_hDzNk-X2.jpg

Besides amazon, where are you guys buying the 1055T?

I don't want to say it's a paper launch, since you can get them, but I don't see them on newegg, zipzoomfly, frys or microcenter or buy.com. We're just lucky Amazon apparently has a ton of these in stock.

Some guy said he called Frys and they can be bought tomorrow.

hiks so sad to hear just have to wait the new bios to disable the turbo :(

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Originally Posted by Manicdan

is that turbo 4.2 or x6 at 4.2? and whats the default vcore? so many details are needed to make sure theres a clear understanding of what the setting are, with CnQ and Turbo messing with everything

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I just set ratio ( 22x200 ) to boot
Turbo Core = Enable
Default VCore = 1.35V

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Originally Posted by [XC] Synthetickiller

Besides amazon, where are you guys buying the 1055T?

I don't want to say it's a paper launch, since you can get them, but I don't see them on newegg, zipzoomfly, frys or microcenter or buy.com. We're just lucky Amazon apparently has a ton of these in stock.

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Just wait for official launch :) These already on sale shouldn't be there...

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Originally Posted by Lightman

Just wait for official launch :) These already on sale shouldn't be there...

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I kept thinking x6 comes out today (Monday).

The chip comes out to tomorrow, lol.

Sorry for an confusion.

I will be curious to see how stores will price it as well as if Amazon will drop to $199 an $299 for 1055t and 1090t respectively.

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Originally Posted by Lightman

Just wait for official launch :) These already on sale shouldn't be there...

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Hey they even have the 1090T up for sale now.

http://www.amazon.com/AMD-Phenom-109...2308835&sr=8-1

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Originally Posted by imamage

I just set ratio ( 22x200 ) to boot
Turbo Core = Enable
Default VCore = 1.35V

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omg :eek::eek::shocked: Post some benchmarks or max validation.

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Originally Posted by cesariuth

somebody bench linX or OCCT max stable for 1055T?

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i agree.i want to see what to expect for 24/7 stable air OC's and watercooling OC's.please someone run Prime95 or some kind of stress testing program.just for an hour or so.

4.1-4.2ghz w/ around 1.5v is my guess, maybe a little more :shrug: ill be happy w/ 4.0ghz x6 4.5ghz turbo range :D

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Originally Posted by =SOC= Admiral

Hey they even have the 1090T up for sale now.

http://www.amazon.com/AMD-Phenom-109...2308835&sr=8-1

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Shows as pre-order again. :(

The 1055T and 1095T are available on Newegg.

But i'm sure most of you already know that :p:

http://richierich1212.smugmug.com/ph...4_WPARi-X2.jpg

Currently priming my 1055T @ 3.4GHz / 2.4GHz NB w/ 1.376 vcore....fun fun.

is that really 4340 @ 1.477v?? :o

No, that's Cool N' Quiet showing.....Now priming my 1055T @ 4.05GHz w/ 1.425 vcore.

Rich was that 281FSB?

So it's worth saving 100 and get the 1055?

With the 1090t, you can reach 4.4 GHZ on AIR with STOCK COOLER... with 1055t...you'll barely be able to reach 4ghz...

With water and a 1090T, you probably can reach 5ghz and more.

Cool yeah I gotta see if they updated my bois for my mono

it's in my sig

tigerdirect deal looks good

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Originally Posted by vitchilo

With the 1090t, you can reach 4.4 GHZ on AIR with STOCK COOLER... with 1055t...you'll barely be able to reach 4ghz...

With water and a 1090T, you probably can reach 5ghz and more.

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http://hwbot.org/article/news/hwbot_...scaling_part_2

Massman have a nice article at HWBot research about it :D
My 1055T (sold) and 1090T , with air-cooling have similar "ceiling" as the research mentioned

richierich: its end your prime?:) Im curious :-).

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Originally Posted by imamage

http://hwbot.org/article/news/hwbot_...scaling_part_2

Massman have a nice article at HWBot research about it :D
My 1055T (sold) and 1090T , with air-cooling have similar "ceiling" as the research mentioned

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that chart, and the one on the next page are just incredibly informative. i only wish they had more common temperatures with 1.3v+ in .5 increments up to 1.6v. but looking at that 1.5v line, its clear that 4ghz is guaranteed with good air cooling, and to get 5ghz, u just need a decent phase cooler.

Got mine 1055T (1013CPMW) today and found out that the stock vcore is 1,475v :( I hope thats wrong and will be changed with a biosupdate.
I´m using a Gigabyte MA790XUD3P with F7a bios which was realesased yesterday.
What stock vcore did you guys have?

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With the 1090t, you can reach 4.4 GHZ on AIR with STOCK COOLER... with 1055t...you'll barely be able to reach 4ghz...

With water and a 1090T, you probably can reach 5ghz and more.

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Thats totally untrue, on average they will have similar wall, its more probable that with 1090T you will get better one (binning), however amd process seems to be very mature so there isnt huge discrepances between them.
That said, 1090T is more tweakable and is easier to oc.

@richierich, PLease report back with your PRIME 95 results ? I want to see AT MINIMUM 1 hour PRIME95 stable results, please !


All those with MSI 790FX-GD70, can you PLEASE report if the new 1.A bios is able to disable the Turbo boost ???? PLEASE !

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Originally Posted by Sennebring

Got mine 1055T (1013CPMW) today and found out that the stock vcore is 1,475v :( I hope thats wrong and will be changed with a biosupdate.
I´m using a Gigabyte MA790XUD3P with F7a bios which was realesased yesterday.
What stock vcore did you guys have?

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1.475V is a Turbo voltage on 1090T. On my stock is 1.3V and low power is 1.225V.
I would check your BIOS, because it might not support Thuban fully yet, or you're simply all the time in Turbo mode.

Ok I'll try to run some prime95....so far I was 3-hour stable @ 4.08GHz w/ 1.45v....too high of a vcore so I'm trying to go lower.

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Originally Posted by Sennebring

Got mine 1055T (1013CPMW) today and found out that the stock vcore is 1,475v :( I hope thats wrong and will be changed with a biosupdate.
I´m using a Gigabyte MA790XUD3P with F7a bios which was realesased yesterday.
What stock vcore did you guys have?

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For some reason Gigabyte says the default vcore is 1.475, in the BIOS. But if you leave it at normal it's actually 1.35v.

Mine just arrived. Woot but I cant install it yet as I have to make a trip to my college but I will leave the info on the cpu here so you can tell me what it means for future reference.

HDT55TFBK6DGR
CCBBE CB 1011BPMW
9316895C00384

It means you just got six-cores of kickass

What was yours batch number again rich IIRC you had a BPMW but i dont remember what your number was. It would be funny if we got the same batch.

Biostar TA785GE DDR2 + G.skill PK 1066 +1055T

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/4835/x640.jpg

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/1981/93760382.jpg

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/1754/18395718.jpg

Nah I got 1010BPMW.

nice memel! What NB clocks?

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Originally Posted by richierich

nice memel! What nb clocks?

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NB2570-2650

1010BPMW
batch 00038

Nice clocks guys!

During a short time I had with my 1090T I needed 1.45V (vDropped from 1.5V set in AOD) to do Cinebench R10 x64 full test at 4GHz.
It is very new system so anything can be wrong, but I wont have a chance to find out till at least tomorrow late evening.

Keep testing these CPU's! Gives me better overview where to go with my settings :up:

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Originally Posted by TurboDiv

@richierich, PLease report back with your PRIME 95 results ? I want to see AT MINIMUM 1 hour PRIME95 stable results, please !


All those with MSI 790FX-GD70, can you PLEASE report if the new 1.A bios is able to disable the Turbo boost ???? PLEASE !

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My sweet spot for performance / power consumption:

http://richierich1212.smugmug.com/ph...5_QGVrz-X2.jpg

mine :D
vcore 1.41 @ Bios

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/8...t290x14.th.jpg

Thank you @richierich. This looks awesome.


@barong, can you disable Turbo Boost ? Is the option available ?

yes it can, the turbo wont kick even if u only use 2 cores, i already tried i think it because my cnq

I haven't seen CnQ being able to be disabled yet, even if it has been disabled in BIOS.

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Originally Posted by barong

mine :D
vcore 1.41 @ Bios

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/8...t290x14.th.jpg

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Just high on linx? Why not max :P What were your temps like? Max stable OC?

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Originally Posted by richierich

For some reason Gigabyte says the default vcore is 1.475, in the BIOS. But if you leave it at normal it's actually 1.35v.

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Great! Then it is going to be fixed with an biosupdate :) My 1055T makes 3dmark vantage @ 4GHz with vcore 4 steps up from stock vcore. Just under 20k CPUscore.

look, all 1010 series are good for OC..

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Originally Posted by memel

Biostar TA785GE DDR2 + G.skill PK 1066 +1055T

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I guess it's the first result with thuban on DDR2 reported so far.:up:

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Originally Posted by memel

NB2570-2650

1010BPMW
batch 00038

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what mem divider are you running memel?

cheers

So comparing i7 benchmark results with mine, and my system blows away theirs, yet their CPU score is still high. Can anyone explain why?:

Mine:
http://richierich1212.smugmug.com/ph...6_PCxHv-X2.jpg


Theirs:
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/4659/passmark7new.png

@richierich

It's simple man,look at the different versions of the benchmark you used(6.1 in your case and 7 in theirs)...

Ok I'll try to run the latest one later today and see what happens.

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Originally Posted by vandiesel

what mem divider are you running memel?

cheers

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memclock 667 5-5-5-15 @ ~980Mhz DDR2 (HTT294)

ok new PassMark 7.0:

http://richierich1212.smugmug.com/ph...3_QMsFa-X2.jpg

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Originally Posted by richierich

ok new PassMark 7.0:

http://richierich1212.smugmug.com/ph...3_QMsFa-X2.jpg

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310 bus speed on a ud4p? what are your bios settings?

What BIOS settings are you looking for?

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Originally Posted by richierich

What BIOS settings are you looking for?

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ive just got a 1055t, on a ud5p , struggling to get it past 270 bus speed.

is your ud4p fxt or fxta?

Passmark looks to be mostly singlethreaded test by looking at those Thuban scores. There are a few subtests that support multicore,but overall not a test to use for multicore perf. evaluation.

The integer performance is where the score is taking the hit. It's half of the Intel (according to the benchmark anyway)...

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Originally Posted by Balb0wa

ive just got a 1055t, on a ud5p , struggling to get it past 270 bus speed.

is your ud4p fxt or fxta?

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Only XT. What voltages are you running?

Another sweet spot:

http://richierich1212.smugmug.com/ph...1_6HgUq-X2.jpg

could someone run a x264 benchmark with their OC please. i am thinking about an upgrade but want to see some results to compare too..

http://www.techarp.com/showarticle.aspx?artno=520

Results for x264.exe r1342
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encoded 1442 frames, 78.41 fps, 3900.68 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 77.10 fps, 3900.68 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 77.75 fps, 3901.21 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 77.10 fps, 3901.23 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 25.21 fps, 3970.20 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 25.28 fps, 3970.63 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 25.30 fps, 3971.69 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 25.38 fps, 3970.42 kb/s



thx in advance :)


edit: oppps i just caught some numbers in this very thread... looks like a upgrade is at hand :)

Ok guys, I haven't dealt with an AMD setup in awhile and I am running into some issues. I have the Biostar TA785G3 and the 1055T. I replaced my 435 Triple Core with it after making sure I had the latest bios for 6 core support. First in the bios default CPU voltage shows 1.42v, sound right? Second, it will not boot into Windows, it keeps crashing, again this is at default settings. Any ideas?

Specs are:
1055T
Biostar TA785G3
2 x 1Gb Patriot DDR3 1333Mhz ram
Windows Home server
On Board GPU

I can stick my 435 back in and it boots fine, am I missing something here?

Thanks.

When you put in your 1055T, do you load optimized defaults?

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Originally Posted by Utnorris

Ok guys, I haven't dealt with an AMD setup in awhile and I am running into some issues. I have the Biostar TA785G3 and the 1055T. I replaced my 435 Triple Core with it after making sure I had the latest bios for 6 core support. First in the bios default CPU voltage shows 1.42v, sound right? Second, it will not boot into Windows, it keeps crashing, again this is at default settings. Any ideas?

Specs are:
1055T
Biostar TA785G3
2 x 1Gb Patriot DDR3 1333Mhz ram
Windows Home server
On Board GPU

I can stick my 435 back in and it boots fine, am I missing something here?

Thanks.

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Be sure to do as post^said.

I have the same board with a 1090T as I wait for my dfi update.
The stock voltage is 1.378v under full load across all cores on default settings.
When turbo kicks on core will go up as high as 1.5v and idles at 1.23v

When I tried overclocking the motherboard it would give out at 3.8-3.9ghz 1.42v on full load but was fine at 3.8ghz 1.4v.
However the mosfet's get extremely hot and I have added heatsinks on them with a 120mm fan blowing right on them.

I backed off the overclocking and have it running at stock crunching away.
I believe since the board doesnt have 4to1 pwm, only a 125w rating, and no mosfet cooling that you will find overclocking very limited with it.
This proved true when I overclocked my 955c3 as well.

Stay under 1.42v as much as you can and turn Turbo off when overclocking if you havent already done so. Touch the mosfet too after full load and you will see what I mean.

Being as I have the same motherboard and bios.
If you want me to post up some step by step pics on what to set the bios to I can get you to 3.5ghz 1.38v fully stable with ease. Just let me know.

Thanks guys, I will give those suggestions a try tonight. I probably won't overclock it much, maybe to 3.2Ghz. This is my media server and WCG cruncher, so stability is more important than anything.

I hope this is the right thread to ask a couple of questions about getting the new Phenom X6.I have Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme + 2 x SSFLEX 68 cfm, case is Cooler Master HAF932, is this enough for doing like 4200 MHz (or more) on air with the 1055T? Many people suggested that 1090T needs sub-ambient cooling, and I think I`ll save some buX from the CPU and get a better MoBo - the Crosshair IV Formula.And finally, please recommend some good batch, as I think of selling my Intel rig and go back to the Green home (with far less green spent than a i7 rig).

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I hope this is the right thread to ask a couple of questions about getting the new Phenom X6.I have Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme + 2 x SSFLEX 68 cfm, case is Cooler Master HAF932, is this enough for doing like 4200 MHz (or more) on air with the 1055T? Many people suggested that 1090T needs sub-ambient cooling, and I think I`ll save some buX from the CPU and get a better MoBo - the Crosshair IV Formula.And finally, please recommend some good batch, as I think of selling my Intel rig and go back to the Green home (with far less green spent than a i7 rig).

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Well U120EX with dual fan should handle it nicely with 1055T

It kind of depends.Thats good cooling and should be sufficient.
However, if youre after rock prime stable
a)you must get a good mainboard that will get you stable HTT/dram freq
b)Have a bit of luck, not all of them gonna do 4.2 air stable.Mine for example is good for 4.1,but not on mine mobo...
4ghz are pretty much guaranteed tho.