H20 | AMD Phenom II C3 | Dragon's Revenge | Ultimate Thread

Chapter 2 | I believe your C3's have suffered enough on my account | If you entries are incomplete you may finish what you have begun | The data herein is a compendium of the possible with superlative supporting data and results | Many will look here for guidance in the months to come | Congratulations! | My task remains to compile results and bestow honors | Honorable work and superior collaboration!

Chapter 3 | Look For My PM On The First Dawn of the New Year | The death-watch tick is stifled. Enter none who strive therefore: on the sudden it is won. Just when the sufferer begins to burn, then it is free to him; and from an urn, still fed by melting ice | Keats

Intermission | Zeus or volunteer might give us a sample 32M run with SpeedFan so we can see the load characteristics | Might be interesting to see something with more transience loading up and down, as we have already tested moderate load with high-load spike (on 3D06) and full load (on Prime95) | A game perhaps...

Holliday | I am sticking around | Scheming | Playing some games, watching some movies on the Console | Been a long year time to enjoy the technology a bit... | Writing a bit... | Preparing for more overclocking...

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Originally Posted by 64NOMIS

...My task remains to compile results...

if you need any help with compiling results let us know

...The death-watch tick is stifled. Enter none who strive therefore: on the sudden it is won. Just when the sufferer begins to burn, then it is free to him; and from an urn, still fed by melting ice | Keats

are you posting from earth? :rofl:

Intermission | Zeus or volunteer might give us a sample 32M run with SpeedFan so we can see the load characteristics | Might be interesting to see something with more transience loading up and down, as we have already tested moderate load with high-load spike (on 3D06) and full load (on Prime95) | A game perhaps...

i will try to get some air runs with normal ambients of different tasks and maybe some UT3 :cool:

...Scheming...

that scares me :p:

...Been a long year time to enjoy the technology a bit...

not only has it been a long year, but an AMAZING year for AMD :clap:

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see bold :up:

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Originally Posted by 64NOMIS

Chapter 2 | I believe your C3's have suffered enough on my account | If you entries are incomplete you may finish what you have begun | The data herein is a compendium of the possible with superlative supporting data and results | Many will look here for guidance in the months to come | Congratulations! | My task remains to compile results and bestow honors | Honorable work and superior collaboration!

Chapter 3 | Look For My PM On The First Dawn of the New Year | The death-watch tick is stifled. Enter none who strive therefore: on the sudden it is won. Just when the sufferer begins to burn, then it is free to him; and from an urn, still fed by melting ice | Keats

Intermission | Zeus or volunteer might give us a sample 32M run with SpeedFan so we can see the load characteristics | Might be interesting to see something with more transience loading up and down, as we have already tested moderate load with high-load spike (on 3D06) and full load (on Prime95) | A game perhaps...

Holliday | I am sticking around | Scheming | Playing some games, watching some movies on the Console | Been a long year time to enjoy the technology a bit... | Writing a bit... | Preparing for more overclocking...

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Haha enjoy the spiked punch and eggnog simon looks like you are starting early:yepp:

Im in for some more diverse testing!:up:

I started so innocently tonight...
My intention was to find out the max Core clock I could get using the lowest CPUVid possible (everything else lowered). After a few beers it turned out to be massive voltage on the Core... :p:
(FWIW, I could do 4020 @ 1.44v's)

I took Vcore all the way up to 1.575 (temps remained under 53c) but ~4.12Ghz still seems to be the limit of what this chip will do under ambient water...

Not sure if it's Electromigration or what, but anything over 1.5v just doesn't seem to help....

After hours of tweaking, I wound up right back where I was. Stable, and actually very sweet clocks!

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...t/1210_Max.png

I'll try doing the 32M run at these clocks for ya Simon.... BRB... :D

OK... Heres the 32m SuperPi with current clocks. ;)

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...1209_32meg.png

Dave can you please post your bios settings? I'm eager to try them out.

Quite similar setup but my 965 C3 0945GPMW will not go higher as my old 965 C2. I can't figure out what is limiting.

My replacement board will be here tomorrow, I was trying to find a better bios, and bricked it.

See if I can do some 32m runs this weekend.

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crazydiamond:
I started low and worked my way up, changing multi then nudging voltage to cpu if it failed. Stock settings for nb and ram, trying for .5 hr prime95 stable using ambient air.

3.7 ghz was the best I could do @ 1.4v
3.8 ghz @ 1.425
3.9 ghz @ 1.4875
4.0 ghz @ 1.55 failed (ran 10 min p95 blend iirc)
3.969 @ 1.565 passed. In cpuz it displayed 1.552v, so I'm getting a little droop sometimes. 52.5c core towards the end of this run.

With cold air, I've done a bit better.

I've been using 3.875 @ 1.5 (250 ht, 2750 nb @ 1.35, tight c7 @ 1666) day to day, ambient room temp.

Although my c3 isn't quite as good as most of you guys, I'll still see a better ROI from a better graphics card, rather buying another one. Besides, I still have a 550be sitting on my desk :)

EDIT
Just tried 20x200, 1.5, everything stock. BSOD and reboot 21 seconds after starting blend. Ambient 17c (haven't started the woodstove yet). It is undervolting a little, 1.488 I think.

FlanK3r:
0942FPMW 965BE C3, with the water setup in my sig. Same stepping Lastviking had.

Lastviking:
What was your best at room temp with all else stock? If you ever closed that window :)

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Prime95 3.9ghz-4.0ghz cant testa again the chip is gone. I think its same like yours can do....+-10mhz or same. Trust me the cpus was very close to each another. You almost did 4140mhz i did it but it was very hard... and more vcore didnt help me....next steep on the vcore did put out to much heat.

I dont think anyone could have more fair fight than your cpu vs mine + almost same temp outside to.

Lastviking
My 0942EPMW is very strange. In XP 32-bit i can hit stable 4034MHz + 26xxMHz at NB (with normal AIR and ambients). Benchmarks up 4150MHz, superpi 32 at 4200 and superpi 1M 4300MHz. But in x64 win7 i have this "bug":
1.456V 3917MHz+28xx MHz NB stable., next step up at 3950MHz i must go up 1.488V and NB down 2600+. And higher clock stable-nothing (3970 i tried with 1.488, 1.5, 1.52 and 1.533V :-/ )

Did some 32M runs but the results are a bit dissapointing due to low CPU-NB clock.

This is CPU-NB maxed out:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...32Mcropped.png

NBvid is 1.375, raising NBvid didn't help here. :(

This run is with the ram clocked up nicely:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6.../32M888ram.png

Tomorrow my new ram will finally be here (Dominator GT), i will try more ramspeed then.

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Prime95 3.9ghz-4.0ghz cant testa again the chip is gone. I think its same like yours can do....+-10mhz or same. Trust me the cpus was very close to each another. You almost did 4140mhz i did it but it was very hard... and more vcore didnt help me....next steep on the vcore did put out to much heat.

I dont think anyone could have more fair fight than your cpu vs mine + almost same temp outside to.

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Hi Lastviking,

I was just curious whether you acheived 4 ghz at room temp, since I came so close but couldn't quite do it. It was a good duel.:lsfight:

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Originally Posted by FlanK3r

Lastviking
My 0942EPMW is very strange. In XP 32-bit i can hit stable 4034MHz + 26xxMHz at NB (with normal AIR and ambients). Benchmarks up 4150MHz, superpi 32 at 4200 and superpi 1M 4300MHz. But in x64 win7 i have this "bug":
1.456V 3917MHz+28xx MHz NB stable., next step up at 3950MHz i must go up 1.488V and NB down 2600+. And higher clock stable-nothing (3970 i tried with 1.488, 1.5, 1.52 and 1.533V :-/ )

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I did not test W7 but max super p1m in windows xp was 4200mhz in door temp(tested all cores).

Zeus & Daveburt714,

Really nice, I am still thrilled to have the temp profiles so we can witness the heat robbing power of the cooling solutions. :CTF:

You know, with OpenCL GPU driver support we are going to start to see some very interesting (non-graphics but C PU/GPU intensive) total system loads. That's where my head is at as I look at the Pi runs. Shouldn't be long now. I think that is one of the destinations, not the only one.

Pi is a lenient bench, Prime makes it look like a toaster Deceptacon. Not easy because it still moves CPU utilization, just doesn't drive a lot of additional heat. On my daily beater (H20 Asetech in rare MainGear SFF Box) it only moves 5C off idle and under your asskicking solutions only moves 3C.

Nothing exciting here, I didn't have the NB cranked up (only 2200), but thought i'd see how the temps were. I didn't need a lot of volts for Pi.

I have 8GB of RAM. I threw in my Kingstons with the OCZ's (don't ask why I ran this with so much Ram), so I had to run CAS 7.

1M (Edit changed to 4.5ghz 2800NB)

http://3800z24.info/Phenom/965/4.5-2800-Pi1M.jpg

32M

http://3800z24.info/Phenom/965/4.4-Pi32M.jpg

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Originally Posted by charged3800z24

Nothing exciting here, I didn't have the NB cranked up (only 2200), but thought i'd see how the temps were. I didn't need a lot of volts for Pi.

I have 8GB of RAM. I threw in my Kingstons, so I had to run CAS 7.

1M

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Temps, what temps? Looks like idle plus some heavy breathing.

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Temps, what temps? Looks like idle plus some heavy breathing.

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:rofl:

Wow, 12-13c! I was gonna say no window ledge required until I noticed that!

OpenCL sounds really cool. I look forward to learning more.

I like the notion of testing with a game. Actually, I kinda use Codemaster's Grid for that purpose now. If my system is slightly unstable, it will actually crash despite passing an hour of p95 blend. Of course, this is usually as I'm about to win a tough race :shakes: However, I suppose it would be hard to achieve a consistent load without running a demo :shrug:

I'll have to download SuperPi. Even though I'm an ancient pc enthusiast (probably even older than theoldtimer :eek:) I've never used it. Thanks to all of you for continuing my education :)

My Tiny RAD that came with my Swiftech kit is just sitting in the garage with 2 120's on it. It is getting cold here in Ohio ;).

I got close to 4.5ghz with 2800NB. only 1.3v on the NB. I can't do 3ghz to save my life. Notice the spike of temp at the end. Edit: I lied, I opened paint after the screen shot. Not sure what it was, must have been the mouse moving lol..

http://3800z24.info/Phenom/965/4.45-2800-Pi32M.jpg

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My Tiny RAD that came with my Swiftech kit is just sitting in the garage with 2 120's on it. It is getting cold here in Ohio ;).

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That's not a tiny RAD. This is! It came with my Swiftech kit 5 years ago. I've since upgraded to the same one as you have, I think.

Which pump? How long is the tubing? I'm considering following in your footsteps, since my office is next to my garage (just have to hide the hole in wall from my wife!).

It's getting cold here too, although I suspect it may get colder for you, despite my being in Canada, since I'm near the Atlantic.

Hmmm, I'm probably in the same boat WRT nb freq, since I need 1.35 for 2800.

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That's not a tiny RAD. This is! It came with my Swiftech kit 5 years ago. I've since upgraded to the same one as you have, I think.

Which pump? How long is the tubing? I'm considering following in your footsteps, since my office is next to my garage (just have to hide the hole in wall from my wife!).

It's getting cold here too, although I suspect it may get colder for you, despite my being in Canada, since I'm near the Atlantic.

Hmmm, I'm probably in the same boat WRT nb freq, since I need 1.35 for 2800.

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LOL, I stand corrected. I guess mine isn't so tiny. I will get some pics to show what I did. I have 2x 8ft of tubing which was more then I needed, but will give me room to play with. My wife didn't care as long as i put a plate on the wall (which I have yet to put on :p:). I have the H2O Apogee GT kit and the MCP655 pump. I am working on a chiller (in my spare time lol) to replace this idea so I can run cool in the summer also.

Nice rads.. here is my 32m run on air:

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/918/pi32m4280.png

Nice one beta. Still 2780MHz on the CPU-NB, that's 80MHz more than mine can take. How much voltage for that?

This weekend i will try some more 32M with my new ram. :)

thanks man, cpu-nb vid was 1.275v in bios, but practically it's 1.3v since the board overvolts it.

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Originally Posted by cc3

Dave can you please post your bios settings? I'm eager to try them out.

Quite similar setup but my 965 C3 0945GPMW will not go higher as my old 965 C2. I can't figure out what is limiting.

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Hi cc3....

I'm not trying to be a jerk, but honestly copying someones BIOS settings won't work with PHII, even on similar systems you'll have to test your gear to find the best settings.

Most of my BIOS settings can be seen in the SS above, 223 x 18.5 x 11 x 12...
Bios Vcore setting is actually 1.5v (board undervolts a little) and the CPU-NB(IMC)v is set @ 1.3v. I did have to add .1v to the chipset NB to stablilize the higher HTRef (223).

The only way you'll be able to tune your system is by trial and error... :yepp:

Tweak one thing at a time, bumping voltage until you see diminishing results. In other words, if you have to go up 2 or 3 bumps on voltage just to get a slight increase in clocks (reguardless of which clock),
you can assume your getting really close to the best it will do with your cooling solution. Make a note, lower the voltage and clock a little and call it good...

FWIW, this is the way I do it, there may be a better way, but this works for me... ;)
Remember to take everything else out of the equation while you test each component of your system!

1st: Test the limit of your HTRef clock (make a note of the best it will do)
** NOTE ** High HTRef isn't always the best option on a BE chip, but it's nice to know!

2nd: Using the above knowledge push your Ram, keeping the HTref below the limit (make a note).

3rd: Push the CPU core clock (make a note).

4th: Push the CPU-NB(IMC), and of course.... (make a note :D).

After you've done all this, you should have a good idea of where the problem lies when you overclock and can adjust things with a better understanding of where the problem may be...

Hope this helps...... Dave

Oh... One other thing! I've had a number of Phenoms, and they've all gotten squirley when core temps go over 53c, so watch core temps too.

Did you say what agian?

http://lookingfly.com/wp-content/upl...tion_jules.jpg

Huh?... :D

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Originally Posted by 12 Monkeys

Don't mock me my friend. It's a condition of mental divergence. I find myself on the planet Ogo, part of an intellectual elite, preparing to subjugate the barbarian hordes on Pluto.
But even though this is a totally convincing reality for me in every way, nevertheless Ogo is actually a construct of my psyche. I am mentally divergent,
in that I am escaping certain unnamed realities that plague my life here. When I stop going there, I will be well. Are you also divergent, friend?

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http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...12_monkeys.jpg

here is a pic of temps after playing UT3 for about an hour :p: ... its right around 50% cpu load while playing - room temp is 70f, closed case

lets see, the speedfan/taskmanager both only show the last 13-15 minutes so that is what you see for load/temps

also on this screenshot i still had my ultra kaze hooked up to pwm so it only got up to 1500rpm and its hard to see but it was right around 42c during gameplay... i ran it again with the ultra kaze @ 3000rpm and it was between 36-38c the entire time during game, idle 29-30c within like 1 min. of closing the game

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i8.../varfanut3.jpg



EDIT: here is some winrar loads w/ ultra kaze @ 3000rpm in closed case, 70f ambient

the bottom picture shows task manager load with speedfan right below it, pretty much lined up with each other for about 14 min. so u can see how the temps corresponded with the loads

first i started archiving a 3gb folder full of flac songs - it was about 50% cpu load, 38*C which is shown here:

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i8...winrarload.jpg

and it didnt look like it was going anywhere so i added a few more things to be archived. when i started the next folder it went up to 80% cpu load, temps barely changed, so i added a 3rd to get 100% load - got about 40c, which is shown here:

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i8...inrar3load.jpg

when one of them finished i took a screenshot of 2 running the cpu at 80% load - got about 39c shown here:

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i8...inrar2load.jpg

and a screenshot while just the last one was running 50% load - about 37-38c:

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i8...inrar1load.jpg

and idle shortly after - about 32c:

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i8...nrarnoload.jpg

To end this challenge in style, here's a 32M run with a little help of mother nature, 1ºC outside:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...actory/32M.png

lol, nice one Zeus, i might be able to see ya, and raise ya ina few days supposed to b -15 to -20 f this coming weekend...but ill b on the stock cooler lol, and i still haven't got my board to so that i can learn the bios and so on

Dragon

good job with these scores!

and where are others with max clock at prime and superpi 32M?

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To end this challenge in style, here's a 32M run with a little help of mother nature, 1ºC outside:

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nice result as always Zeus :clap:

awesome cpu-nb speed, how much voltage (or did the dominators help)? :)

Great results Zeus, looks as though you have found what your system likes. :clap:

Thanks guys.

beta, i don't know if the Dominators helped but i know the cold really helps CPU-NB speed. Looks like the CPU-NB scales even better with cold than the cores. Well, almost. :D

theoldtimer, it likes cold. :) But the Dominator GT's are a nice addition i have to admit. ;)

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and where are others with max clock at prime and superpi 32M?

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last thing i have to do is 32m.......Im off next 2 days

here are all my results from all tests in this and other threads

Well heres a rundown of all my results from this thread

4.1ghz 32bit prime with ambiant water http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...5&postcount=56

4.3ghz 32bit prime chilled watercooled + 4.6ghz validation http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...8&postcount=77

4.1ghz 64bit prime ambiant water http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=105

4.5ghz 3dm06, 4.5ghz superpi1m, 4.5ghz wprime, and a 4.4ghz cinebench 64 http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=144


4.28ghz 64bit prime chilled water

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...h_PC020272.jpg

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...1/PC020271.jpg

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...1/PC020273.jpg

cold water 250fsb 3ghz nb

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...1/17multi1.jpg

263fsb with 17 multi

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...771/263fsb.jpg

3ghz nb ambiant

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...771/3000nb.jpg

last thing maybe tonight 32m chilled water:D

well its a start, ive been gone for a bit but i will put up better by this weekend, since simon is off having eggnogg for a bit i guess ill have time for the 3d06 stuff
15min 17.951 spi 32m

http://www.myalbumbank.com/albums/us..._951spi32m.jpg

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...1/32m44ghz.jpg

well heres a quick 32m, DDR2 showing its age here. No tweaks I just set to 4.4 ghz and let it rip couldnt dial in 4.5ghz after like 4 tries farthest I got was half way then a reboot, with 25% ice left I just went for the 4.4ghz

I might give it another try but not sure

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http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...1/32m44ghz.jpg

well heres a quick 32m, DDR2 showing its age here. No tweaks I just set to 4.4 ghz and let it rip couldnt dial in 4.5ghz after like 4 tries farthest I got was half way then a reboot, with 25% ice left I just went for the 4.4ghz

I might give it another try but not sure

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try with 5-5-5-15 or 17...I have 16m 5x s with 4220 MHz :) (watch here http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...5&postcount=40

Bios changed timings by itself when I changed memory speed, to late to change after 32m started. Its ok.......I have plenty good results already dont need to be fighting against DDR 3.

yes look C2

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...1/32mspi-1.png

No time for settings today:shakes:

This mobo I think makes me use more voltage than newer mobo I see for cpu.

I'm gonna have to give this a run after Xmas is over with. I have been staring down the C3 revision for a while. Maybe by then ASUS will have the updated bios as well. My old faithful 955 is gonna be hard to leave behind though. It survived a 965 C2 that I couldn't for the life of me push past 3.8ghz stable with any amount of voltage, bus/multiplier tweaks, cooling or luck. So my wife got an unexpected upgrade. :shocked: Where as my old faithful 955 can hit 3.9ghz all day long 24/7 stable. Maybe I just got a dud overclocker, idunno.

I flashed the 1204 bios for the Crosshair III and tried some different sticks of memory today. I then retried the 10 X multi tests; although the new bios or memory helped I still can’t get close to an HTT of 400. The bios will load up to 370 but it crashes loading Windows. I didn’t try upping the HTT in windows after running 3D06 at 10x368. I thought the system would be unstable when running 3D06 considering that it wouldn’t boot the OS at even one more click of the HTT but it just blew through it, NB and HT-link clocked up somewhat.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=12714538


http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...062high-NB.jpg

theoldtimer, i flashed bios 1204 myself but in Everest latency went from 39.6ns to 40.2ns with my daily settings.

Looks like Asus relaxed some internal latency timing to allow more ht speed.

I'd rather stick with good old 1003 bios. ;)

Hmmmm, ever since the 10X and 17X challenge, my system has been cranky. Overclocking isn't risky, is it? :p:

It's weird, I get errors when XP is loading, when I first power on the system. After it gets to operating temp, it seems fine :shrug:

Nice ht theoldtimer. Still with the rad in the window? Do you have to guard against condensation with that setup?

Zeus, I want your ram! :CTF:

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theoldtimer, i flashed bios 1204 myself but in Everest latency went from 39.6ns to 40.2ns with my daily settings.

Looks like Asus relaxed some internal latency timing to allow more ht speed.

I'd rather stick with good old 1003 bios. ;)

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Zeus, I haven’t tested anything but HTT with 1003 but I’ll keep that info about the memory in mind.

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Nice ht theoldtimer. Still with the rad in the window? Do you have to guard against condensation with that setup?

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Grinder I’m back on the hard stuff (ice) until I get the rad setup sorted out (too many restrictions in the lines) and yes I still need to take measures to ward of condensation using the big rad setup.

I did get through prime at 4.305GHz but 4.325GHz failed.
Below running after 30mins.
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...ingat30min.jpg

Below stopped after about 2mins
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...dafter2min.jpg

I just missed 19K by just that little bit!
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...bench18943.png

what vcore did you need for cinibench

I set 1.6V in the bios but load line calibration was enabled so I’m not really sure what the vcore was during the test. This processor’s default is 1.4V.

oldtimer, try Cinebench with the same setings, only with lower clock at HT (219x9). U must go at 19 000 man :)!

I’ll try to get back to it in the next few days Flank3r. The C3 is up on the shelf right now as I’m testing some other processors for the next few days. I know 19K is in this C3 though I just ran out of time looking for it.

Some eggnog, had to prepare past several days for a massive family overclock. The Third Spawn. Currently water cooled at about 37C. We noticed some instability after running full load for a couple weeks, three nights ago, so I had to divert energy to doing prep for the big OC session. Now that I have insulated the crib, cleansed the napthaline-preserved spawn insulators, purged obsolete hardware, and defined naming parameters I have some time to run a few cycles at idle. What do you gentleman think about Kelvin? Kirk? Deckard? Anyway stay tuned for results. Good to see yours continue to improve, which is good, I see a new locked multiplier challenge coming your way in January...

with all that prep i sense some WR's coming from your session Simon :p:

ps that must be some good eggnog lol

Hmmm, at what temperature does a nice stiff blend of eggnog freeze?:toast:

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Some eggnog, had to prepare past several days for a massive family overclock. The Third Spawn. Currently water cooled at about 37C. We noticed some instability after running full load for a couple weeks, three nights ago, so I had to divert energy to doing prep for the big OC session. Now that I have insulated the crib, cleansed the napthaline-preserved spawn insulators, purged obsolete hardware, and defined naming parameters I have some time to run a few cycles at idle. What do you gentleman think about Kelvin? Kirk? Deckard? Anyway stay tuned for results. Good to see yours continue to improve, which is good, I see a new locked multiplier challenge coming your way in January...

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Sounds fun, enjoy.

Oh, are you talking about Star Treck?? :confused:

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Sounds fun, enjoy.

Oh, are you talking about Star Treck?? :confused:

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ETA 1/1/2010. My 3rd child. Re-read the message, might make sense now. Need some new smiles. :crybaby: :babyblanket: :ultimatesacrifice: and :slavery: describe my life for the next couple months.

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Chapter 3 | Look For My PM On The First Dawn of the New Year |

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Hey Simon,

How changing diapers going? :D

Still waiting for you PM man. ;)

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Hey Simon,

How changing diapers going? :D

Still waiting for you PM man. ;)

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Still waiting her to :)

Im sure hes busy with the new edition i thought about that PM a few times also........but hes prolly dealing with things in the AM.......early AM lol.

Congrats on the new baby!

wow, congrats simon. hope alll are healthy. i seem to vaguely remember being a new dad. 21 years ago if i remember right. time goes so fast. cherish every moment.

And here I thought you were giving birth to a new challenge.

Hmmm, I suppose thats true! :cool:

Congrats!

Congrats Simon, great new times ahead:up:

The PM will come exactly when it is meant to.

Some factors are beyond my control.

Thanks for the well wishes. Family OC party starts Thursday morning at 6:30AM. On the bright side I have been in complete overdrive getting as much done as humanly possible.

With luck chew* will grace us with news from the XS OC event and the new LN2cooling.com prototype pots as Christened by the ATI Radeon HD 5970's last weekend in Vegas.

Congratulations on the Family Upgrade Simon!
I'm sure your plate will be full for quite some time...

If there was a Cigar emoticon I'd send it to you... ;)

Hoping all goes well...... Dave

Gratz Simon! , i hope you will get some sleep now on the nights ;)

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little update with small cpu loop - little less vcore, little warmer ambients (bout 71F), and still was about 8-10*c cooler than with my s1283/ultra kaze - alsu used 1.29 cpu-nb volts on this run & default volts on above air run

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i8...imeC3water.jpg


new rig pics (just want to show off my new AMD sticker i got from shadowmajik.com :p: )

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i8...00210-2036.jpg

this one on inside is just a paper cutout i was messing w/ because i also got a sticker that size too, case window is the actual 3" they sent me, inside case is same size as the 4" they sent me

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i8...00210-2038.jpg

edit to fix broke pic links

I need to fix my temp abit....but here comes a fast test with DDR3 board first time for me.

http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/v...0mhz2842nb.jpg

wow looks good, whats cpu-nb v's at?

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wow looks good, whats cpu-nb v's at?

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The NB only want 1.25v @ 2800mhz but need 1.35v around 2850mhz.

So the NB v´s is 1.35v there.

crazydiamond congrats on the new rig very nice. Hope for you in the clean car comp and may I have the nice wallpaper, 2nd shot? LastViking very respectable.

Apologies, January was not how the cards fell. They fall soon, plans are laid.

yes, hopefully after new paint and some more thorough wire management, it will eventually be worthy of the clean car comp :p: im going to change up the loop a little bit too

i think this should work for letting you get the fullsize wallpaper, if not let me know ... i think i found it on these forums one time or another

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/6...onbykar.th.jpg

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crazydiamond congrats on the new rig very nice. Hope for you in the clean car comp and may I have the nice wallpaper, 2nd shot? LastViking very respectable.

Apologies, January was not how the cards fell. They fall soon, plans are laid.

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Sweet, can't wait.

Oh, how's the family?;)

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ETA 1/1/2010. My 3rd child. Re-read the message, might make sense now. Need some new smiles. :crybaby: :babyblanket: :ultimatesacrifice: and :slavery: describe my life for the next couple months.

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Awww, that's so nice. :) Congrats, Simon! Guess you're really busy with family matters now, no time for your hobby, but that's more important than new hardware and much better in a long run than a good overclock anyway. :up:

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crazydiamond congrats on the new rig very nice. Hope for you in the clean car comp and may I have the nice wallpaper, 2nd shot? LastViking very respectable.

Apologies, January was not how the cards fell. They fall soon, plans are laid.

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Falling cards, sounds interesting. This could make for some new game(ing)?:D

Clean car comp? Im in!

I haven’t posted anything in this thread for a while and I improved the SPi score today so…. I thought why not? Cold water CPU cooling.:yepp:

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...-c34704MHz.jpg

Holy cr@p old, you're tearing it up now! 4.7GHz SPi 1M is awesome! Lower multiplier and raise fsb to get the CPU-NB frequency up, you might be able to pull off a sub 14.5sec. Pretty sure your ram can handle a lot more than what you're running there-- if that's the dominator GT's you're running. ;)

Thanks Zeus, yeah I think there's more in it. I wasn't trying to max it out though. The SPi-1M was just a fill in between other bench tests. I get bored running the same test over and over.:yepp:

hehe, nice oldtimer !

Thanks FLanK3r, I think I figured out what this chip likes, very cold water on it's head and a fire under i't bottom. :rofl:

theoldtimer, it was nice .. another reason push me in wc world :) what block?

Thanks Tomasis, it's a Swiftech apogee GTZ.:)

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Thanks FLanK3r, I think I figured out what this chip likes, very cold water on it's head and a fire under i't bottom. :rofl:

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care to elaborate a bit , fire on its bottom?
sharing you know

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I am guessing voltage..

that right there is sweetness oldtimer.........good work!

Thanks Titan7171. Yeah, I built a Vfire under it.;). Let's just say it was enough vcore to get the job done as it wouldn't do it with any less and being that it completed SPi several times I guess it didn't need any more.:D

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Thanks Titan7171. Yeah, I built a Vfire under it.;). Let's just say it was enough vcore to get the job done as it wouldn't do it with any less and being that it completed SPi several times I guess it didn't need any more.:D

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HEY iM CURIOUS WHAT WEEK YOU GOT THERE??

sorry for caps

I wonder if it makes a difference what mobo you use??........copuld a cpu do a higher mhz on mobo than another??

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HEY iM CURIOUS WHAT WEEK YOU GOT THERE??

sorry for caps

I wonder if it makes a difference what mobo you use??........copuld a cpu do a higher mhz on mobo than another??

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I think the hardware makes a difference but after a certain point you need to find a way to get the CPU colder to improve the over clock.:yepp:

I'm still using the same 965-C3 that I have had. :up:
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...md965-c3-1.jpg

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I think the hardware makes a difference but after a certain point you need to find a way to get the CPU colder to improve the over clock.:yepp:

I'm still using the same 965-C3 that I have had. :up:
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...md965-c3-1.jpg

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what an EVIL CHIP LOL 0666

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I think the hardware makes a difference but after a certain point you need to find a way to get the CPU colder to improve the over clock.:yepp:

I'm still using the same 965-C3 that I have had. :up:
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...md965-c3-1.jpg

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The coldness part I've never had trouble with, but I wonder if I'd be able to get a bit more by using a more current mobo than this old M3A79-T Deluxe?

Maybe this mobo holds me back a bit, I mean don't get me wrong this CPU is really good Nd the mobo has been great but I alwYs wonder if a crosshairs 3 or MSI gd-70 would get me. Bit more?

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what an EVIL CHIP LOL 0666

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Now, now it's just a sweet little Dragon. :D

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The coldness part I've never had trouble with, but I wonder if I'd be able to get a bit more by using a more current mobo than this old M3A79-T Deluxe?

Maybe this mobo holds me back a bit, I mean don't get me wrong this CPU is really good Nd the mobo has been great but I alwYs wonder if a crosshairs 3 or MSI gd-70 would get me. Bit more?

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I own and have tested all the ones you have listed and more but for me (all I have to offer is my own personel opinion) the Crosshair III has proven to be the better one. The Corsair GT 2000MHz cl8 is the best memory I own. I don't know if other brands or speeds would over clock better but these work very well for me. So to answer your question IMHO yes this combination (Crosshair III MB, Corsair GT memory listed above) in all likelyhood would give you a higher over clock and better bench scores when tested against your M3A79-T Deluxe MB. I own the M3A79-T Deluxe and have test results to compare although I don't plan to dig through all my past results to prove.

I don't know how cold you're able to get your chip during bench testing so I'm not sure what you mean by your stament "The coldness part I've never had trouble with"? Usually when I find a way to get my chip colder I can get it to run faster or at least help it become a little more stable.

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Now, now it's just a sweet little Dragon. :D



I own and have tested all the ones you have listed and more but for me (all I have to offer is my own personel opinion) the Crosshair III has proven to be the better one. The Corsair GT 2000MHz cl8 is the best memory I own. I don't know if other brands or speeds would over clock better but these work very well for me. So to answer your question IMHO yes this combination (Crosshair III MB, Corsair GT memory listed above) in all likelyhood would give you a higher over clock and better bench scores when tested against your M3A79-T Deluxe MB. I own the M3A79-T Deluxe and have test results to compare although I don't plan to dig through all my past results to prove.

I don't know how cold you're able to get your chip during bench testing so I'm not sure what you mean by your stament "The coldness part I've never had trouble with"? Usually when I find a way to get my chip colder I can get it to run faster or at least help it become a little more stable.

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well Ive had the cpu 6-9c idle and 24.5c load with prime using icewater thats how I got 4.6ghz validation and ran 3dm06 at 4.5ghz........so Im wondering if this M3A79 is holding me back just a bit......thats why Im asking and trying to figure if a newer mobo would help me get just a bit more from it.

I've tested this hardware at those load temps also and I was maxing out just about the same clocks you are. If you get your CPU load temp down around 10C You may get another 100MHz or more out of it without changing MB or memory?

Who knows maybe you can get that much more out of it using the cooling you have now by changing MB and memory but I couldn't? :shrug: I had to get it colder under load.

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I've tested this hardware at those load temps also and I was maxing out just about the same clocks you are. If you get your CPU load temp down around 10C You may get another 100MHz or more out of it without changing MB or memory?

Who knows maybe you can get that much more out of it using the cooling you have now by changing MB and memory but I couldn't? :shrug: I had to get it colder under load.

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well you got the 4.7ghz superpi......at the same temps, but different hardware I have a 0944 APMW.

Well Ill be upgrading for Thuban so I guess Ill see what comes of it.......I was just cusious though and Im already tired of messing with the same hardware......I think my next upgrade will be 5850 crossfired.......then thuban/mobo/memory:up:

Just thoght Id throw this out there......BFBC2 about 1-2 hours of play............using all 4 cores:)

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...C24coreuse.jpg

It wont run at 4.2ghz unless I raise the voltage to 1.58+ game will bsod......and if I leave the voltage at 1.58+ I have to click the overvoltage protection so I dropped the OC to 4.1ghz, its a hassle waiting for the OV protection everytime I start the machine up.

nice, bout same temps i get after gaming for awhile, right around 40c on the cores.

lolz does that say magicjack?

n1 !

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nice, bout same temps i get after gaming for awhile, right around 40c on the cores.

lolz does that say magicjack?

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Im glad more and more games are using 4 cores

yea I got a majicjack...........29.95 for a whole year of phone service:p:

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I haven’t posted anything in this thread for a while and I improved the SPi score today so…. I thought why not? Cold water CPU cooling.:yepp:

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...-c34704MHz.jpg

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let me just quote this 'coz its awesome!
looks like you found your way over here at [xs] oldtimer, welcome! :up:

Thanks wuttz. Yeah I been bouncing around from forum to forum lately. Mostly at the raptor pit for the last two months though competing in the Raptor Bowl and Winter Warz . Those were both a lot of fun.:D I’m here at XS about everyday at least for a little bit. I really like this place to.

Just for s*its and giggles, here's a shot of temps running Grid with my "daily driver" settings. Three laps at nurburgring, then watched the replay. Looks like it doesn't push it very hard, but I had fun doing it. First by a nose :yepp:

I plan to pick up a copy of Far Cry 2 in the next couple of days, maybe that'll give it more of a workout. I do like the idea of game stability as a bench. Ironically, in the past Grid has bsod'd on me in a longer race when pushing my C3 too hard, even after passing an hour of OCCT.

Titan, whatever are you going to use to challenge that shiny new GPU?

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Hardware

5970 just ordered testing
4850x2 testing
140w 965 lapped testing
125w 965 lapped testing
Ambiant watercooled testing
chilled Icewater testing

Software testing
BFBC2
Crysis warhead
L4D
MW2
HL2
3dm06
Vantage
heaven benchmark
plus other cant think of


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Hardware

5970 just ordered testing
4850x2 testing
140w 965 lapped testing
125w 965 lapped testing
Ambiant watercooled testing
chilled Icewater testing

Software testing
BFBC2
Crysis warhead
L4D
MW2
HL2
3dm06
Vantage
heaven benchmark
plus other cant think of

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