Congratulations Mick64 on an outstanding case design:clap:
Don't give up on the idea of making this case a reality, if you keep knocking on door's it will happen.
I would buy either the blue case or the orange one.:up:
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Congratulations Mick64 on an outstanding case design:clap:
Don't give up on the idea of making this case a reality, if you keep knocking on door's it will happen.
I would buy either the blue case or the orange one.:up:
Have you got a quote from Protocase to make it?. If you had a price, then maybe one of the more keen (rich) enthusiasts could make your dream a reality. I myself am considering a Lian Li P80 with 2 feser 480 rads off the right hand side, perhaps mounted like a mora-2, but an uncluttered all internal build like this would be ideal. !! not that i personally could afford to go much bigger than a P80. Basically everyone wants the versatility of the Mountain Mods cases, In a far more stylish tower enclosure. and you have that in spades!!
I wish that I could be posting something more than another render, but there hasn't been any further progress to report. So another render is all I can provide at the moment.
I've created a few more components in ScetchUp for this render. Here's what's installed......
Xion Thermal Control Panel
Lamptron Fan Controller
Primochill Typhoon III
Optical Drive
6x HDD’s
4x SSD’s
Asus Rampage II Extreme
3x Dominator Memory
Heatkiller Rev.3
2x EVGA GTX 295 Hydro Copper
Bitspower Rampage WB (Black Freezer)
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/k...-Piped-10a.jpg
when is it ready for manufacted.
i will buy one from you.
Amazing!
I've 'only' looked at the first page/post.. those are some very smart designs :yepp: :toast:
Mick64, was very beautiful in orange!
Zomgblueftmfw!!!
Dam! I will take the blue one.
Can you please tell me how you incorporate the items listed bellow into sketchup?
I am new at using sketchup and would love to know, as you really seam to have the hang of it.
You must have invested hours into this.
Xion Thermal Control Panel
Lamptron Fan Controller
Primochill Typhoon III
Optical Drive
6x HDD’s
4x SSD’s
Asus Rampage II Extreme
3x Dominator Memory
Heatkiller Rev.3
2x EVGA GTX 295 Hydro Copper
Bitspower Rampage WB (Black Freezer)
Apart from the motherboard, memory and the optical drive, I have created them myself. You can download the aforementioned and other components form HERE, but mine are not available at the moment.
Hey Mick, I love your case and I can see it being very popular with your target demographic.
If you are interested at all, you can PM me or w/e works best for you, as I have contacts I could share with you as well as some information on how and where you can have these mass-produced.
I cast my vote that your prototype be built from steel. A one-off aluminum prototype will simply not be affordable--speaking from experience. Aluminum is easier to waterjet, as was brought up before in this thread, but businesses that can do that are not as prolific as ones with the tools to laser out your parts from steel. =)
Steel is very easy to cut and even if you were going to drive downtown to have this made, you will certainly be able to find someone. Realistically, if you find the right people and you have the CAD files you can have each panel cut for around $17 (I can't tell from your renders, but make sure and incorporate the seams if you haven't already.) The tricky part will be folding the material, as you probably guessed, but don't worry, there are plenty businesses out there that can do this for you too. The wonderful thing about working with steel though is you can bend it all yourself, and your case design is so clean that it should be fairly simple (challenging, yes--but simple).
Anyways, good luck and amazing job!
I really dig the SSD adapter mount. :up:
Mick64, blue has a beautiful look, too!! This case promises to get your very beautiful!!!
I have to agree with NFC.
I am from a trade background in Motor Body Building. Which in the construction and fabrication of road transport vehicles. Like road-trains, semi-trailer, B-doubles rubbish compactors, right down to 1-ton trays bodies for work utes.
In my 20+ years of working in this trade I have spent a lot of time in sheet metal fabrication side of things.
So when it comes to pressing up your case, in my opinion it's not that hard.
To start with, A one piece "top, front, bottom and back" peace. You will need to start with a drawing of the "top, front, bottom and back" peace, before it is been pressed, (edges bent to 90 degrees).
I have seen you have the sketchup skills and know you have the imagination to mentally un-fold your case from the finished product. So that the "top, front, bottom and back" peace are all flattened out on one plain.
Please note that when you bend either steel or aluminium at 90 degrees it will stretch it’s own thickness.
For example, using a piece of 2mm mild steel, 260mm wide. If you mark in 30mm on each side and bend each bend to 90 degrees. You would now have a “C channel”. The out side measurements would be 32mm x 204mm x 32mm.
You have gained 2mm in each direction of the bend. This is only true for the out side measurement. The inside has not gained anything, it will still measures 30mm x 200mm x30mm
Please note by saying, the “outside” I mean the other side to where it was marked out and bent. Where it is marked and bent becomes the inside.
So you will need to know what size you want each face to measure after bending and whether it in side or out side that counts.
This is only true for sharp bends like the ones that go the length of your case (edges)
The bends that form the corners, going across the case will be different.
As an approximate if the radius of the corners is say, 20mm and you are using 2mm thick material you will gain 10mm in the over all size, for the large bend in each direction. This is not from stretching the material, but just the size of the bend radius. There will still be a 2mm gain in each direction for the stretching of the material that you will need to allow for.
I hope this make sense, the easiest thing to do is find a sheet metal workshop that you feel comfortable with and ask them to do some test bends of a cross section on scrap piece to make sure you know that size gains you will receive after bending
Once you know this you can adjust your drawing to suit.
By the way, let them know there is alot of interest on XS from bothe people in the UK and overseas and you will give them a plug if it all work out, might help.
The drawing should also have all cutouts for fans, temp gauges, vents, gaps for bends e.g. large radius corner bends and anything else you need so once it is all cut out you don’t need to touch it again and it can go straight the sheet metal shop to be pressed. Then once you have drilled all the holes for fans and rivets etc, it can go to be powder coated.
You will also need separate drawings for the 2 inside pieces that go above and below the motherboard.
A separate drawings for the panel that mounts the motherboard itself, plus one for the bracket the power supply sits on and any I may have missed others. They will each have to have all hole and cut outs marked as well as bend marks (with direction and degrees to be bent to) so they can all be cut, then bent at the same time as the outer case.
You may find the place that is cutting it all out may like the drawing on a USB thumb drive, so check which format they like, eg DWG for cad.
They should have the software to convert it if it’s not right.
It’s also a good idea to provide the sheet metal workshop with a basic drawing of what each individual part will look like so they have a visual idea of what there doing, it just gives them a guide as to what it should look like when finished.
Another good idea is to show the drawing to the sheet metal workshop (if there not the people cutting it out) to make sure they can’t see any challenges with it when it comes to bending. (needs to be done before it is all cut out, I know your not simple I just thought I would add it)
From what I remember of reading in this thread, your first hdd cages where copies of someone else, and I think you said you could buy them.
I for one would save your time and money trying to fabricate them and just buy them online and bolt them into your case.
I think this just about covers it, once all the fab work is done, you should be able to just buy the parts you need to get it up and running.
Oh just one more thing, as for me if I was going to go the all the effort of designing it, the making it a reality. Then I would make it out of aluminium. The cost of a ½ sheet of 3m x 1.2m x 2-3mm is not that much more than steel and when it is after all for you. I would make the investment.
Bottom line, If you want it bad enough, then you might just have to make the first one yourself like this as a demo to show the big case builder how to do it!
It will work if you try it like this, but jetting someone to make it all might not.
After all, it’s not there dream, is it.
Best of luck mate I will be watching for updates/progress reports.:up:
P.S. have you ever thought of asking Charles at MurderMod if he would be your US out let?
wow, that is awesome! I've wanted a TJ-07 for a while now, but i'd rather have yours!
would happily buy one if you produced them (and drive up to essex to get it ;))
Thanks for all the info kg. I am in the process of doing the 2D drawings for the case and I do understand what you mean about bend radius. It is a very time consuming process checking all the dimensions and making sure I've made all the allowances in the right places.
Unfortunately I'm not, financially, in the position to get this made myself at the moment. However, I have had some interest in the design and a prototype may be on the cards.
If things don't come to fruition, at least if I have all the 2D drawings ready, I may be in a better position in the future to get it done myself.
Thanks again!
hello really great idea, I can tell you if you want to produce the housing in a small series laser / CNC / water jet cutter everything is there so you can even write a PN or better still an email HBfreak93@googlemail.com
Hey Mick, how bout something with 9 or 10 pci slots for this set-up: http://www.evga.com/articles/00501/
Crazy right? I know you visit the EVGA forum on occasion, but I still don't see you there too often
Just something that may interest you :)
In these latest renders I have inverted the motherboard.
I have squeezed in a second typhoon III in the top bay so that there are two separate cooling loops.
To make enough room in the top section to route the pipes, I have replaced the 38mm width fans and shrouds with 25mm ones leaving plenty of room along the left side for the two pipes.
The 120.4 rad in the top is now cooling the graphics cards and the motherboard.
The 120.3 rad in the bottom is just cooling the processor.
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/k...I-Piped-14.jpg
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/k...I-Piped-16.jpg
What speed/RPM do you think, guess you would need to run the fans at with this system?
I love this design and really hope you can find someone to manufacture it for you. I know I would be interested in buying one.
That is a bit of an open ended question. There are so many factors that would need to taken in consideration. I don't think anyone could give an answer, or even a guess! Here are just a few:-
Make of fan
Make of rad
Make of pump
Make of waterblocks
Number of components being cooled
Overclocking
The list goes on....
I would buy this case in an instant, very nice!!
Good day.
I work for a sheet metal manufacturing company based in the UK. Having looked at your design I would like to introduce my company.
We have all of the machinery required to produce you case for a very competitive price. We have a CNC turret punch which is much cheaper to run than say a laser or water jet. Using the CNC turret punch we also have a dimple tool which could punch dimples if required tor the motherboard to sit on. We also have access to a water jet, laser and a plasma cutter. We have guillotines and 2 presses to form the bends required. We can work with mild steel, aluminium, stainless steel or even copper.
We have in-house wet spray and powder coating facilities. If you pick any Ral colour or BS number we can powder coat or paint it to your specification.
In the past we have made some computer enclosure's and cases for the airline industry to very high tolerances.
We would require detailed 2d drawings to work from so we could input them into our CNC machines. We could send you the parts via courier either flat or fully assembled, i.e welded or riveted.
I will continue to follow your project online and wish you well with it.
I am starting to outgrow my TJ07 and that really fits the bill. I can only hope someone decides to mass produce it for you.
Nice job Mick.
What setting did you used for rendering in Kerkythea? There are 25 settings i think (ray tracing, photon map - quick, photon map - low, photon map - high + AA etc.) :shrug:
Mick,
It would be a crime not to see this on shelves.
Modding is fun yes, but this many options with that kind of finish, it has to get made.
No two ways about it. :)
As for steel or alu, i would rather own alu but depending on cost i could see how many would like to own a case like with but at a lower price point.
I use number 20. Metropolis Light Transport (BPT). Most of my renders are between 100 and 200 passes @ 1024x768. The more passes you do the sharper the image, but the bigger the image the longer it will take to do each pass. 200 passes takes about 8 hours on my PC using 3 of 4 cores. See sig for spec's.
Very nice design. It would be really nice if someday you could make this case a reality and be able to sell it. I know I would certainly buy one, even at the more expensive aluminum. :up:
Some of my SketchUp models are now available on the SketchUp Components Collection website for those that are interested....:up:
Any updates on when this might become a physical reality?? I have a Black Pearl that would love to be emptied (well, it is empty now, but will be filled by this time next week) and would be happy see my rig in this case you've designed :D
Watercooling UK are in the process of building a prototype based on my design, but it's still in the early stages and there's nothing of a physical nature to speak of yet. I should also add, that due to manufacturing restraints, it will not be possible for the prototype to be identical to my design. I am eagerly waiting to see how close the physical case will compare to the one in my renders....
awesome! that`s the only word matching aproximatly your work with sketchup. it`s great!! i love it, no i need one!! :D
just very few minor changes i would propose...
to get a cleaner front, why don`t you plan the 5 1/4 bays covered? e.g. you can do a stealthmod with your optical drive? and further more have you thought about not using mesh for the intake fan? something lasered or engraved out of the aluminium instead of using mesh?
same for the sidepanels, why using mesh and destroy the very clean look?
just some proposals...
keep up the great work, and if the case really gets into production, it`s definetly worth a look! all the discussion about the price are just waste... if you think about an MM, which ist "just" a modded retail case (999$) :shrug:
hmm your only in essex :P hurry up and make it so i can steal it mwuhaha =)
Thats excellent to hear, you should be proud of yourself.
Looking forward to seeing what it looks like
Basically, some of the components of my design would need expensive, specialised machinery to be manufactured. This would not be cost effective or practical when building a prototype. Some of the components will have to be redesigned to simplify the build process and keep the costs down....
Come on: Just go out and build a one-of. Everyone has to follow his dream and invest a little bit into it. Go for it, don't wait for others! :)
I would love to be able to build this myself! Unfortunately, I would have to win the lottery first. I'm not a rich man. I have a family to support on an average wage. Things like this just have be considered a luxury I can't afford...:shakes:
However, I am preparing the detailed 2D drawings required for fabrication. So maybe, one day if the funds become available, I will pursue this dream! ;)
that would indeed be great, if you can get your dream to come true!! :D
Just checking back to see how things are going! Good to hear you have someone working on your design! Truly incredible!!!
Did you figure out how to export CAD DWG. from Sketch Up yet without buying the full Pro Version?
If not, download the free trial pro version to another computer and you can use it for 8 hrs for free. I design on one rig and transfer to the other rig where I export my files as CAD files. Only using minutes at a time with the free pro version...it has a countdown clock!!!
My case design is complete..."the acrylic one" and have transferred files to Corel Draw X4 to output on my laser cutter/engraver. I'll show some pic's once it's done...crossing my fingers it'll look good and hold together nicely!
Sometime down the road I should be purchasing some more equipment for metal cutting and bending...if you still haven't found anyone to build it I'll give you a ring.
Best of luck to you!!!!
Kirk
I'd certainly be interested one of these cases if they become a reality...keeping an eye on this thread. Good luck :)
I like dualbrain , Nils idear about going to universities to see if they can help you make this happen.
Don't give up mate.
I am sure I have dreamed of a case like this... Hope this becomes reality soon. Good Job!
I actually can't come up with anything wrong with that case. Well done.
Wish I had some solid news...:shakes:
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/k...I-Piped-24.jpg
Shouldn´t be hard to build.. but it will be quite expensive.. Do you have some blueprints of that thing?
Looks good!!
just sent a pm, i did read all the thread in a few...you're going to be my favourite designer...after pininfarina;):D
been following this for a while on a different forum, thought id pop in here and say it again.. best tower case design i have ever seen :)
Here's what we do.... get about a dozen of us to go in on this together and all buy this case. It's cheaper by the dozen, I would think.
Make it out of THICK aluminum. Anodize it or plate it. Build up some really nice systems.
Just need to make sure that EVERYTHING for the system has a place and that there is no wasted space or things that are overlooked. It might be a good idea to make a prototype and try out where everything would go, just to be sure. Sometimes things that look good in CAD have flaws that show up in the prototype or the C build. Smart move to ask for feedback on your design on the forums, btw.
Alternately, you could sell the design for $10 each or whatever and let us find our own manufacturer for the case. Looks like a lot of fun, clever how you have separate zones for each of two large radiators with room for both push and pull fans.
I'm new to water cooling, still planning out my very first build, probably for next summer when gulftown and fermi are out.
a piece of ART...
Thanks Dimas...:D
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i fuc:banana::banana::banana::banana: love it, and i fuc:banana::banana::banana::banana: want itQuote:
What do you think of my "water cooling" case design?
:p:
Have you tried smaller design ?
for the harddrive cage you should make the mounting holes a square so someone can either mount it forward facing or sideways.... simple
If you were to read the thread in its entirety, you would know it is already like that.....:p:
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/k...se-mkII-54.jpg
It honestly feels like this case lacks hard drive racks
With such a tremendous size I'm amazed it only holds 6 (?) drives.
Also, wheels.
Otherwise nobody but Arnold Schwarzenegger will be able to move it
I figured that slide-in cage held more.
But either way, and I know this sounds ridiculous, thats still a pretty low number.
The Lian-Li V2000 is probably a great deal smaller and holds 12 drives. I'm just saying, considering the leviathan nature of this case it seems rather quirky for it to only support 10 3.5" drives.
It all depends what you want from a case. I designed this case primarily for liquid cooling. If you want a case that holds many HDD's or multiple optical drives, then this wouldn't be the case for you. However, I could design HDD racks that hold more drives, more tightly packed. Like you say, with the amount of room available, it would probably be possible to hold about twenty.....
Well sure, and it does its job at what you intended it to very well.
I'm just pointing something out. Its not a concern for 99% of people, but I know a couple people that, if this case were on the market, wouldnt buy it because they collect blurays and have like eight kabillion hard drives.
Looking at it, why exactly is there a lower 5.25" rack and then an upper?
Why not replace the lower 5.25" with more HDD racks and leave the upper?
Most people dont use 5.25" reservoirs, and I cant think of any use for more than two 5.25" bays
Get it into production and kick the case manufacturers backsides.
I haven't been around for a while, but it is nice to see that you are
still working on it Mick.
It looks terrific. Be great if this got manufactured in the near future.
@mick64 Awesome Project Looks Like 30% Black Pearl
C'mon Mick, let's build it!
how much would estimated cost currently be? i might be interested i starting to build something like this...what if we could simplify the design a little by building it around a frame made from square aluminum tubing and having that rather than bending that aluminum into the frame???
can you show or explain how you are attaching the mesh and window to the side panel?
thanks!
im guessing either 3m 4010 double sided tape or countersunk screws... its really up to you i guess...
Would this case hold the new EVGA dual socket LGA-1366 motherboard? XL-EATX form factor. If so, I would definitely buy it.
I think some time ago mike postulated about adding in removable drive bays as accessories to the case, so then it could be promoted to a wider amount of end users, not sure what is going on there.
Mike, Don't look so much as computer companies like MM and such to build the case, get it fabricated at a place like http://www.laser3d.com.au/metalfabrication.html (this is an aussie one but im sure there are a few around Essex also) flatten all the parts you need into 2D files, mark where you want the bends and the radius of them, and they can fabricate it for you. Would not cost more than say 250 for that case if you supply the drawings in DFX format. I've had side panels done with 4-5 layers that have only cost me around 80 bucks, same with a top bezel for my cosmos 1000 that was 60 bucks that included folding/cutting.
I think it looks sweetass. I saw your avatar and I, too, thought that was a kickass case.
Black aluminiun my vote but the case a litle less deep :up:
Have you seen the new DP Classified board? Slap it into your case and put 4 295s in there :)
New? 295s? The board has been out for almost half a year, and its 285's which you have to use, and you must use their classified versions if you plan to go 4-way, which they slapped another 50 bucks or so on each. Had a big discussion about this on another thread how its a waste of money etc due to bandwidth and CPU bottleneck capabilities anyway. I would go an ASUS P6T-series and slap a XFX 5970 or 2 x EVGA 285 FTW 2gb editions in there and save around a grand for a visually un-noticable performance loss on nearly every game, 'cept crysis of course. Still a harsh mistress.
I think he is talking about the dual socket board
Hey Mick64, check your PM's please.
That red/black is amazing looking. Is 1 pump really all that is needed for that much radiator?
The bigger brother of TJ07.....
MUCH bigger, like TJ77 opr something......
ehehehehheheheheheheh
Art museum at once!
ahh so he is talking about the dual socket EVGA...huge board, pretty cheap really, like 550US.
I am talking about a DP (Dual-Processor) Classified along with 4 GTX-295s. It will be intended to be a HPC rendering PC purpose, you won't need SLI enabled.
Grunching since this thread is so long but here are some things I'd like to see:
-more hard drive slots!
-compatibility with the new EVGA dual socket Classified board, I think you need like 10 expansion slots or something ridiculous. Very few cases on the market that can fit it right now (without modification ofc).
Very sweet looking case with a great WC design. Really like the White with black interior. Throw on some white tubing and red sleeved wires...:yepp:
And black.... it is just classic.
Great case. Hope you get it made.:up:
This is a dream case for heavy water cooling needs! Simply the best case I seen yet. Awesome work
Given we can make it house the new dual CPU monster board from EVGA I would simply have to get one ASAP..
It this design can be modified, can we make it fit 12 HD, the full with of the http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?&m=124528&mpage=1 and top and bottom mounted, quad size radiators above and below motherboard, plus a full size dual PSU setup?
If so.. can we please start rounding up people so we can get it custom built, maybe from the link above, or we have a list of that on this forum already that I missed?
The manufacturer from Australia linked on this thread here above looks to be able to do it, I belove we need some electrical peaces in addition, shall we get on with it/manufacture a limited run?
Wow, that's very nice. The only thing I don't like is the larger than 120mm fan in the front. IME those larger 200mm kind of fans that are available to us at a good price (Cooler Master, Antec) aren't that good. 120mm is the performance sweet spot for having a lot of competition and really nice fans available, so I really like 120mm sizing for any fan usage.
Also needs way more HD slots and compatibility with EVGA's new dual socket Classified coming out too, as that's the board/setup I might get this case and cooling for.
xigmatek also released a 200 mm fan if i recall correctly
Making it slightly deeper and a slot more should do this trick
My own main concern is the ability to fit quads above and below plus the deep type PSU that is nearly almost the case with 1500 w.
At the size it is now it wont handle that. It should be a easy fix that thou. I would pay dearly to get one built in steel if that is the only option of what can be done as long as I can rub it in with sandpaper or machine a bit then paint it glossy black, just like pictured, if it turns out that It wont come with the ready painted option like that from cutter.
I have never done such a order or mod before so, reading every post here with your experiences.
What do you say Mick, Would you be happy to charge us a royalty and let us get some cases built from your design?
I must say, the more pictures I see of it the more I like it...
Powder coated and a good gage steel would work nicely..
You may or may not have seen in my liquid cooling thread, that I am looking at increasing the height of my case design. There is a very good chance that I will be getting my design built in the not too distant future so I would like some input from you guys. The reason I want to increase the height is to accommodate the EVGA 4x SLI XL-ATX motherboard which requires 10 PCI slots. This would also make it possible to fit the new dual socket motherboard from EVGA. What I would like to know is how many of you are thinking of getting these motherboards and would you buy my case to put them in? If interest is faverable, I will modify my design and possibly produce some new renders with the dual socket motherboard installed.....:D
I'm very interested in the new EVGA 4x SLI XL-ATX dual socket motherboard. And I like your case. If the case could be ready in time for the release of the motherboard (early April 2010?), I would buy one. Otherwise I'd be buying a Mountain Mods Extended Ascension. Either way, I will need to buy a case, and yours looks like a lot of fun and well thought out.
Have you got anyone lined up to make the cases?
I'd be happy to run the design past the builders in my area -- Lincoln Machine -- if it was OK with you.
I do have someone who is willing to produce my design, but it's still in its infancy. I don't think there is much chance that a product will be available before April. As I will have very little to do with the manufacturing process, I really can't say when it will be ready. What I do know is; these things take time. Designing something is one thing, actually constructing it is another......
Don't want to mention names at the moment. Not until things are a little more definite, and there is something solid to show the community. :rolleyes:
Just want to get one version off the drawing board, before I start thinking about different variations, but it's definitely something to consider! :up:
Still not sure whether to increase the size of the initial concept though, and cater for the large motherboards. Could really do with some more feedback! :shakes:
what ever you do plz make sure you can fit in a quad and two units of PSU and a quad rad. IF you have to remove the front bay or something else if one wants this done, thats fine, at least make that happen. This will do something in the market that no other case out there can do without a lot of modifications or just not possible at all.