i dont understand why its a bad idea, look at how well the 4870 x2 worked out, whats so different from this?
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i dont understand why its a bad idea, look at how well the 4870 x2 worked out, whats so different from this?
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Originally Posted by Circaflex
dual pcb, ham-handed architecture, allegedly rapidly approaching succession date, soon to be defunkt ddr standard, need any more reasons?
and this is coming from someone who's on board with this gpu.
hmm i was under the impression it was a single pcb, shame i was excited for this and now im not sure if i should be =(
adding one more 260/216 is going to pretty much get me where this thing would. Eff it and it's heat lol.
me2! I'm on board with the GPU. It's stacking two of them directly on top of each other that I'm not on board with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slovnaft
Nothing. This card isn't any more cumbersome and unwieldy than any other GX2 card in the past. I especially like the argument that it's too powerful, and nothing will be able to surpass it for a long time. That's certainly stopped the GPU industry before!Quote:
Originally Posted by Circaflex
Some people here have lost their minds.
Anyone who would say this is too powerful would then have to say GTX260 SLI is also... which this basically is, but riding a single pci-e interface.
come on who going to post first andre or vince its the the 8th january here in the uk :D
yawn
its almost 9th here :D
me and dinos wanna see benchmarks not pics of the card :D
GTX 295 is like the super ugly child that nobody wants. You can tell how serious Nvidia takes this card by the poo design. Stopgap! :lol:
I am excited for the GTX 285, though. Step-up time! :)
Interesting this is gonna force the rpice of 4870x2's down and seems it may have forced the gtx280 down to a lil more than $300.
They're now on the egg for $500 by 4 manufacturers.
:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Caveman787
They have 2, 4870 X2's at $450
-2 others below $490
-1 just below $495
They only have 2 gtx 295's at $499.99 and the rest over $500 (at the time of this post).
Sapphire's 4870 X2 is on the Egg for $399 after rebate. Granted it's a Sapphire rebate for $50 so all bets are off, but still, $400? Even if the 295 is just a step above vaporware if it forces prices down on the 4870 X2 then we all win.
Maybe not, but for God's sake, at least use the newest ones...Quote:
drivers alone don't dictate the absolute performance of the hardware
Do you guys think that a Corsair HX 520W PSU could run this card? I'm currently using a GTX 280 @ 650core/1472shader/2300ram, Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 3.2ghz, 8GB RAM, X-Fi, 5 120mm case fans, 3 HDD's, etc. with it. I am taking one of the HDD's out shortly to put in a different system. I'm *this* close to selling my 280 and going for the 295, since I would need a new PSU for a second 280. I figure I can get $270-300 on the 'bay for the 280 I have, for an upgrade cost of ~200, vs. 300 for a GTX + 100 for a new PSU. I'm running 1680x1050, though I may upgrade to 1920x1200 at some point it won't be for awhile likely unless I skip this and go for a 23" S-IPS LCD :p.
LOL - looks at my clock.... your clock running a tad fast there mate :DQuote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
I don't know how some of you manage to care so much about this card.
It's a solid competitor for the 4870X2, and that's it. Had it come out months and months
ago... It would be genuinely "exciting," but I think we're long past that point.
For someone whose waited this long for Nvidia's go at a dual GPU card, it will satisfy.
oh so i was exaggerating a touch :DQuote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
MSI GTX295 Tested
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/sh....php?t=2229216
These cards are now for sale on Newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...ce%20GTX%20295
$499.99 is the sales price!
This card should bring some green back in the mix to the top single card scores.
Hi all, which one would be better? 2x GTX295 or 3x GTX285? I don't know but I think the GTX295's would be better (I've seen some results here on XS and they are awesome), wouldn't they?
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/articl...VudGh1c2lhc3Q=
As you can see, most games are a wash with the same playable in-game settings. So when it comes down to it the gameplay experience is the same between the BFGTech GeForce GTX 295 and AMD Radeon HD 4870 X2.
Guru3D
Quad-Sli comparison between ATi and NVIDIA impressive results...
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/200...d-sli-review/1
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/...5_performance/
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=16737
http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=655
http://hothardware.com/Articles/NVID...295-Unleashed/
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforc...95-review-bfg/
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforc...i-gaming-test/
Our review 20 games - http://pctuning.tyden.cz/index.php?o...2396&Itemid=44
Nice review OBR! Loved photos ;)
Mine is a but smaller, but Catalyst 8.12 hotfix used.
http://pclab.pl/art34932.html
Well looks like these ATI PR slides weren't so wrong:
Computerbase:
Rating - 2560x1600 8xAA/16xAF
ATi Radeon HD 4870 X2 Cat 9.x 164,7
ATi Radeon HD 4870 X2 151,3
Nvidia GeForce GTX 295 100,0
ATi Radeon HD 4870 1GB 84,2
Nvidia GeForce GTX 280 65,6
Nvidia GeForce GTX 260² 53,3
Nvidia GeForce GTX 260 51,9
ATi Radeon HD 4870 32,6
ATi Radeon HD 4850 30,4
Nvidia GeForce 9800 GTX+ 1,9
4870x2 51% faster than GTX295 and 65% faster with Catalyst 9.1 (beta ?)
Link
ok, but in total unplayable settings with horrible micro-stuttering on both cards ...
Totaly Atifanboy post, look at other resolutions ... :rofl:
lol look who is talking
well; 240 shaders per core...mmmm
yeah i looked at the computer base pages...
depends still on games and settings particularly at high AA 8x at 16x12 (19x12?) and 4x-8x at 2560x1600.
@16x12 with 4XAA gtx 295 will be ahead in many games i think. 4870x2 still seems to own at 8xAA
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/...xaafar1920.gif
:D
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/...nce/page10.asp
Updated Catalyst 8.12:shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by adamsleath
NVIDIA SuperFanboy counter atack. Do you want to look to the other resolutions? Shure:Quote:
Originally Posted by OBR
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/2303/82314836tq0.jpg
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/4938/50121054dp4.jpg
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/1457/61199577rj7.jpg
http://74.125.43.101/translate_c?hl=...TLwIP4xqZxcy1A
Hardware.fr review :up:
http://www.hardware.fr/medias/photos...IMG0024993.gifQuote:
Nvidia unveiled its new high-end in mid-December. Une préannonce destinée à gêner AMD pour les ventes de Noël, ce qui est de bonne guerre. A preannounce to impede AMD for sales of Christmas, which is fair game. Nvidia en a cependant profité pour organiser des previews contrôlées de sa GeForce GTX 295 en offrant une exclusivité à une poignée de publications, en échange de quoi celles-ci acceptaient de tester la carte de la manière dont le service marketing de Nvidia l’avait décidé, c’est-à-dire en se concentrant autour de 5 jeux choisis par Nvidia, plus un jeu libre. Nvidia has however taken the opportunity to organize its previews controlled GeForce GTX 295 offering an exclusive to a handful of publications, in exchange for which they agreed to test the map of how the marketing department had decided Nvidia , ie focusing around 5 games chosen by Nvidia, plus a free game.
Pour rappel, Nvidia avait déjà essayé d’organiser des tests limités autour de ces 5 jeux entre la Radeon HD 4870 1 Go et la GeForce GTX 260+, sans grand succès. Remember, Nvidia had already tried to organize around limited testing of these 5 games between the Radeon HD 4870 1GB and GeForce GTX 260 +, with little success. Avec la promesse d’une exclusivité de nombreux confrères ont cette fois été plus compréhensifs, certains ayant ceci dit l’honnêteté de préciser les conditions du test en indiquant que l’information restait intéressante en attendant un test complet alors que d’autres, sans peur du ridicule, ont été jusqu’à expliquer avoir « choisi » ces jeux parce qu’ils sont les plus représentatifs du moment. With the promise of exclusivity many colleagues have now been more understanding, though some have the honesty to specify the conditions of the test, indicating that the information was interesting until a comprehensive test while others without fear of ridicule, were explained to have "chosen" these games because they are more representative of the moment.
AMD avait organisé également de telles previews pour sa Radeon HD 4870 X2, mais cette fois pour « remercier » les publications qui avaient accepté de fermer les yeux sur le fait que la Radeon HD 4850 était disponible sur le marché avant la fin de l’embargo pour la presse. AMD had also organized such previews for its Radeon HD 4870 X2, but this time for "thank" the publications that have agreed to ignore the fact that the Radeon HD 4850 was available on the market before the end of the embargo for the press. Ces previews contrôlées nuisent bien entendu à l’objectivité de l’information. These previews controlled obviously harmful to the objectivity of the information. Ce test ne fait, comme vous l’aurez compris, pas partie de ce programme de preview et nous avons donc utilisé notre protocole habituel. This test is, as you will understand, not part of the preview program and we used our usual protocol.
http://en.expreview.com/2009/01/09/r...he-throne.html
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/863/1/
http://www.techarp.com/showarticle.aspx?artno=612
http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Ha...ews/bfggtx295/
http://www.overclockersclub.com/revi...a_gtx295_full/
http://www.technic3d.com/article-803...ble-impact.htm
http://www.hartware.de/review_891.html
Guys just chill, one game goes to ATI , one to Nvdia and one to S3virge... It always has been like that and always will be... some games are better coded for a particular card or driver... Both are top notch cards and too powerfull for most our needs... I just wished these GPU's wouldn't consume so much and put out less heat...and would drop drastically in price :p
Good Job Onethreehill finding all them reviews mate
When can we expect to see 285 vs. 295 reviews?
Not quite sure I want to pull the trigger on ordering a 295 just yet before I see how much better a 285'll be compared to my 4870 @ 1920x1200.
Any info on how much PPD will GTX 295 be doing? :)
Great work OBR , by far the best review out there :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by OBR
For F@H? Lots.Quote:
Originally Posted by LaMpiR
For CUDA optimized SETI @ Home / GPUGrid? :) :D :eek: :shocked:
Our review here :)
Graafs are looking sh1tty sa they do´nt start from zero.Quote:
Originally Posted by Monstru
You are welcome :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...rd-review.html
http://vr-zone.com/articles/nvidia-g....html?doc=6380
http://www.trustedreviews.com/graphi...rce-GTX-295/p1
On JAN 15 I will update this review with GTX285/GTX280/4850X2 and the graphs will all start from 0 :)
Not on Vista. Current Nvidia drivers hard-lock the system after adding a second monitor and disabling SLI.Quote:
Originally Posted by YukonTrooper
GTX 295 with Geforce 180.88 vs. HD 4870 X2 with Catalyst 8.12 WHQL
http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,6...graphics_card/Quote:
Three weeks ago we published a preview of Nvidia's Geforce GTX 295 and now it's time for a full review of the card. What is the Geforce GTX 295 capable of in matters of power consumption, loudness and micro stuttering?
GTX 295 with Geforce 181.20 WHQL vs. HD 4870 X2 with Catalyst 8.12 Hotfix
http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,6...th_812_Hotfix/Quote:
As announced in our GTX 295 review, we deliver this article to test the effect of the latest drivers on the high-end cards. We used the same test system as we did in the GTX 295 review, but installed the Geforce 181.20 WHQL respectively the Catalyst 8.12 Hotfix which is distributed by AMD and is said to increase the performance with a multithreading optimization of the workload. The Geforce 181.20 WHQL is also available for download already.
Isn't that still a win for ATI? Why would you want to run on anything less than 1680x1050? I would imagine that 8xAA is playable as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by v_rr
EVGA GTX 295 Backplate
This is a special backplate for the EVGA GTX 295. This backplate will help transfer heat from the backside of the card, and stabilize the card. It looks great and works in SLI/Quad SLI.
http://www.evga.com/products/moreInf...401-EV-1234-01
i wonder if that will fit on with a waterblock attached. it would look niceQuote:
Originally Posted by onethreehill
EVGA 017-P3-1293-AR GTX295 with pre-installed back plate available now
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130453
Just for those who don't realise what this clown is all about, check out the quality of this "reporting".Quote:
Originally Posted by onethreehill
Charlie Demerjian = The AMD Information Minister
what was the use in reviving this thread again?
Because it was in this thread that Chuckles D's bullshot was originally quoted.Quote:
Originally Posted by orangekiwii
Was I supposed to start a new thread just about that?
Regardless, let this stand as a testament to just what a FUDster he is against all of AMD's rivals.
if only the usable VRAM is more than 896MB (is it? lol i am not sure)
otherwise i'd trade my 2nd BFG 280GTX to this
also wahts the deal with GTV limiting video settings based on VRAM ... the xxxMB / (MB of amount of VRAM u got)