Modded ASUS P5Q/Pro/Deluxe/Premium BIOS

Well I have tried ANY settings combination that's available. That was ~ 3 weeks of testing and stressing. The conclusion i came is that when writing bandwidth excess a certain amount the system is unstable. That would be either a chipset fault or a memory incompatibility (?) Unfortunately i couldn't find any other P5Q-PRO owner with the sticks i tested (SUPERTALENT 800Mhz CL4, OCZ SLI EDITION 1066 CL5) to have a reference. Everyone seems to have corsair or g.skill or crucial..

I have contacted ASUS support and co-operated on researching the problem and they said me that maybe it's a Northbridge heat problem..

Also i have to mention that when i say "system unstable" i mean Prime95 blend. When using small ffts test there is no instability.. So that tells me that it's something to do with the memory. And because of the high fsb even lowering the memory to 1:1 and running it at 800Mhz doesn't lowers memory writing bandwidth..

I have a kit of that OCZ SLI memory, maybe we can figure something out.

MajkY: You're not alone. A couple of us in the P5Q thread on [h]ard have the same problem, though mine isn't quite that bad. The only advice I can give is to reflash your BIOS, clear CMOS, load default settings, and definitely do not load any saved OC profiles, create fresh ones. After doing all that sometimes the problem returns after 4-7 days but for me it's mostly fixed. Now and then it crops up, maybe 1/50 or 1/100 times I save BIOS settings. I really want to know what triggers it as it seems random on my board.

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I have a kit of that OCZ SLI memory, maybe we can figure something out.

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The part number of the sticks is OCZ2N1066SR1G and they are 2 x 1GB kit . Do we have the same? Have you ever tested them with the P5Q PRO?

Oh man you maybe be the first person i meet on the net to have a P5Q PRO and some same memory as mine. lol I had started to think that i would have better made a research for what memory most P5Q PRO owners use before i made my purchase. In fact i didn't know that G.skill or Crucial was so famous.. I thought i would find more people using OCZ memory

First off Ket :clap: of to you my good man. Second i got all the settings on auto at the moment i know youve said it might be better leaving them loose but do you think i should try to you know configure them again and take them off auto might increase in performance ( might ). I really wanna do 5-5-5-12 on these Mushkin Ascent Redline 8000 kit i got it running at 1066.:up:

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I ´m so pissed offfffffffffffffffffffffffff

when i press start-restart from windows, system restarts, but thats all. No boot at all...... no logo screen nothing. (fans are on) and this is happening everytime i want to restart system no matter if its from windows or bios... also when i change some setting in bios "save and exit" from bios...it restart, but no boot... i have to unplug electricity and than on 2-3 time it boot.
I have ASUS P5Q PRO with bios 1004. I wonder if this 1307 for my board can solve this problem ? :S

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This is a voltage issue I am sure. Try higher vtt..

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The part number of the sticks is OCZ2N1066SR1G and they are 2 x 1GB kit . Do we have the same? Have you ever tested them with the P5Q PRO?

Oh man you maybe be the first person i meet on the net to have a P5Q PRO and some same memory as mine. lol I had started to think that i would have better made a research for what memory most P5Q PRO owners use before i made my purchase. In fact i didn't know that G.skill or Crucial was so famous.. I thought i would find more people using OCZ memory

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Yep thats the same OCZ kit as I have. I wasn't looking for memory that clocked really well, just something that was fast stock and maybe had enough wiggle room to go to ~1150MHz. After 5 RAM kits I'm convinced the memory I have can't all be crap clockers, and theres another limiting factor somewhere.

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First off Ket :clap: of to you my good man. Second i got all the settings on auto at the moment i know youve said it might be better leaving them loose but do you think i should try to you know configure them again and take them off auto might increase in performance ( might ). I really wanna do 5-5-5-12 on these Mushkin Ascent Redline 8000 kit i got it running at 1066.:up:

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I set some timings manually, but for the most part other timings are best left at auto anyway.

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Originally Posted by ahmad

This is a voltage issue I am sure. Try higher vtt..

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I couldn´t belive myself...but you are right. i set 1.4V VTT and no reboot issue !
Thank you very much !!:woot:

- anyway i will try new bios 1307 :up::up:

Majky 1.4 VTT is maybe too high for 45nm chipset !!

I didn´t know. 1.32VTT should be OK ?

By myself max VTT that i use is 1.34V, Many people says that ~1.35 VTT is fine. Try up some other voltage, But remeber: stay in safe values :>

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Yep thats the same OCZ kit as I have. I wasn't looking for memory that clocked really well, just something that was fast stock and maybe had enough wiggle room to go to ~1150MHz. After 5 RAM kits I'm convinced the memory I have can't all be crap clockers, and theres another limiting factor somewhere.

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Do you mean that you have tested OCZ kits with the P5Q PRO and there is a limiting factor somewhere else but the sticks themselves? When you say 5 ram kits you mean five OCZ2N1066SR1G kits?:eek:

I'm currently running those OCZ2N1066SR1G at 1154Mhz with 360FSB (5:8 ratio) and they are stable. But as i said raising the fsb (and as a result, memory write bandwidth) there is instability with blend stress (large fft).. Do you mean the same?

If high memory write bandwidth is the cause of the instability with certain memory modules then the only thing i can think of as the cause of the problem is inappropriate timing settings set by the motherboard (because there are some timing options that cant be set by the bios. even with manual selected ofcourse).

It's definitely a voltage problem, or at least a VTT issue. I had the SAME issue as a lot of people where the board would boot fine the fist time, but then fail to boot if restarted (via Windows). For me, I was afraid to go above 1.2 VTT with my E8500 but decided to try it out and see what happened... I set VTT to 1.22 and booted the board, and then restarted via Windows and it actually restarted this time without issue. I then kept lowering VTT until I was satisfied with the VTT value and the stability of my OC. Right now, I've settled for VTT at 1.16 and the board boots and restarts fine.

The funny thing is though, that I never had this problem when I first bought the board... It happened about 2 weeks after, and lasted for a few days. Loading new BIOS's and even a full clear of CMOS with the battery out didn't seem the help. Then one day, just setting VTT above 1.2 got the board acting normal again.

The fact is that many P45 series have a strange comportament, in special from Asus. The strange things is that many work normal, others don't, the bioses don't use in my opinion the full potential of chipset, i start to think that
all these ar because all mb were made in a rush like "hotyes 4850" just to take money from us. And the most condamnble thing is that they even bother to repair in time the bugs with bioses, and without men like Ket many of us would have even now issues.

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It's definitely a voltage problem, or at least a VTT issue.

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I have tried every voltage available. I have even tried NB as high as 1.42 and VTT as high as 1.38

45nm chips do not need so high fsb voltages to go for 400Mhz FSB..

I have also tried higher fsb to exclude any possibility of fsb hole. I have tried 401, 403, 405, 410, 415, 420.. All with the same result!

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Originally Posted by Ket

I think they are still beta yeah. I'm using a modded 1307 on my Pro and its working fine, from what others have said the other betas are fine as well.

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ket do you have 1307 your mod bios for P5Q non pro? can you arange this for me ? :)

@Ket: the m0803 Bios from ur first post is also for the p5q deluxe ?

here is my overclocking :) on 1306 bios :)
http://image.geotorrents.com/images/...0az17jog4h.png

waiting for 1307 from ket :)

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waiting for 1307 from ket :)

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check the main post, its been there for awhile now.

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here is my overclocking :) on 1306 bios :)
http://image.geotorrents.com/images/...0az17jog4h.png

waiting for 1307 from ket :)

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here

Another fact: Trying to set 400 FSB with 333 STRAP and 960 Memory Speed resulted in post fail with beep beep beep beep beeps (not beeeeeeeeeep, many beeps lol)

Ket, also tried your 1004 modded bios

Alright i know some of you have been having issues with Load Line calibration turned on/off i currently have it on Auto. I havent seen any of these issues i got it up to 4.5ghz i was only 2 hours stable. But i only had it pumped to 1.41volts so a bit more voltage im pretty sure i can get it stable but i would not be running that 24/7 i just wanted to hit 4.0ghz and i achieved that. My motherboard might be a new revision Asus P5Q-E ReV 2

Scout your board for the rev, if you have a newer rev it'll be higher than 1.03G.

What changes is there in newer versions of rev? CPU-Z says for me rev:A2 is that old or new? :shrug:

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Do you mean that you have tested OCZ kits with the P5Q PRO and there is a limiting factor somewhere else but the sticks themselves? When you say 5 ram kits you mean five OCZ2N1066SR1G kits?:eek:

I'm currently running those OCZ2N1066SR1G at 1154Mhz with 360FSB (5:8 ratio) and they are stable. But as i said raising the fsb (and as a result, memory write bandwidth) there is instability with blend stress (large fft).. Do you mean the same?

If high memory write bandwidth is the cause of the instability with certain memory modules then the only thing i can think of as the cause of the problem is inappropriate timing settings set by the motherboard (because there are some timing options that cant be set by the bios. even with manual selected ofcourse).

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Not 5 OCZ kits no. I thought the P5Q series was just very picky about what RAM it would play nice with, thats seems to not be the case tho I have tried to date;

Patriot PC6400 4-4-4-12 (works great @ 1066 on a AW9D-Max) on the P5Q series the system won't even POST with this kit.

Geil Golden Dragon PC6400, I'm sure on any other board this kit would do 1066+, on the P5Q series it boots all the way up to 1100+ but isnt stable even @ 1029 :rolleyes:

OCZ SLi kit, constant problems with the memory, booted 1143MHz, not stable. Again I think this is a P5Q series BIOS issue.

Mushkin PC8000 D9GMX, booted 1143MHz, not stable.. (noticing a pattern here yet?)

Cellshock PC8000 D9GKX, boots up to 1206MHz, not stable even @ 1143MHz seemingly..

The only explanation to all this I can think of is my CPU and the P45 not actually being properly tailored for 65nm CPUs.. that or asus partially fudged 65nm support. Even on a AW9D-Max I can run my "lowly" E4400 on a 400 strap @ 425FSB, absolutely perfect. What happens when I try setting 400 strap and memory divider on the P5Q boards? No POST. Well done Asus :clap: :rolleyes: /sarcasm.

The timings you can't set in BIOS are not a huge problem, this is where spdtool comes to the rescue, you can loosen things like trc via the spd data and reflash the modules. The only pain in the arse is that w1z still hasn't added P45 support. Bad w1z, bad bad w1z :slapass:

Theoretically loosening trc for intel boards should allow for better stability and higher frequencies.

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What changes is there in newer versions of rev? CPU-Z says for me rev:A2 is that old or new? :shrug:

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I had the P5Q Pro since the whole series was released, and CPU-Z reports A2 for me, so seems like asus haven't made any hardware tweaks.

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so seems like asus haven't made any hardware tweaks.

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Suprise :D

I know.. I'm still astonished at the condition asus let the P5Q series roll out the door in. My board came with BIOS 0506, and when voltages were left on auto it pumped 1.6v through my CPU amongst a whole hoard of other bugs :eek: Don't want to imagine the catastrophe of what 1.6v would do to a 45nm....

Huh, I can imagine what could happen when use 1.6V on 45nm processor :shakes: My P5Q-E came whit 06xx bios, Didnt take a look that bios "auto" volts.

Btw i have noticed that some people have reported issues about Bootlogo! I got same thing on my P5Q-E.
+ People who have reported about this, uses P5Q-E too! Would CMOS battery removing help on this? I dont want do it whitout results becouse my graphic gard is just on it! :(

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Huh, I can imagine what could happen when use 1.6V on 45nm processor :shakes: My P5Q-E came whit 06xx bios, Didnt take a look that bios "auto" volts.

Btw i have noticed that some people have reported issues about Bootlogo! I got same thing on my P5Q-E.
+ People who have reported about this, uses P5Q-E too! Would CMOS battery removing help on this? I dont want do it whitout results becouse my graphic gard is just on it! :(

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Ahhh yes the troubles of overclocking :rofl: lol just take the case out and grab your screw driver and loosen those bolts and pull that sucker out and get that battery out of her hole and short the clear jumper and pull the power cord and let it sit there for like ten minutes. Then reverse.

To clear the CMOS on these boards you don't need to pull the battery. The jumper near the battery is all that's needed. Just turn off/unplug the PSU, pull off the jumper, and put it on the other pins 2/3 for 10 seconds. Then put the jumper back on pins 1/2 and turn the system back on. CMOS cleared, bada-bing.

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To clear the CMOS on these boards you don't need to pull the batter. The jumper near the battery is all that's needed. Just turn off/unplug the PSU, pull off the jumper, and put it on the other pins 2/3 for 10 seconds. Then put the jumper back on pins 1/2 and turn the system back on. CMOS cleared, bada-bing.

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I know that i have cleared CMOS everytime i have installed mbios, but this battery remove? Is that necessary? :confused:

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To clear the CMOS on these boards you don't need to pull the battery.

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I know that i have cleared CMOS everytime i have installed mbios, but this battery remove? Is that necessary? :confused:

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No, you don't need to pull the battery. All you need to do is move the jumper, wait, and move the jumper back.

Removing the battery fully clears the CMOS, just setting the jumper to "clear" does not. To see this for yourself you will notice when not removing the CMOS battery the board holds various settings still such as time and date.

Agreed ^

I think it's better some times to wipe everything out by draining all power for bout ten minutes. That's why I say to pull the battery. I did get a flaky BIOS chip from Asus though so, maybe he has a flaky one. Have you tried using the backup Chip to see if it acts better? I had them send me two new ones when I found my bad one.

Ket why didn't you buy my chip? :( . I thought you wanted it.

I did, but finances are tricky atm. I don't have the new chip yet nor is it ordered, its just planned :D

What chip? I don't know though every one else seems to be having a hard time clocking to where I am at with this chip so maybe I should just hold onto it and cherish it. :p:

This was with bios 1201 it was stable for 2 hours and then i got hit with a blue screen. Anyways i only had in bios 1.4125 so this time im gonna pump it a bit more say 1.45 i think it should be fine its not something i want 24/7 but i wanted to see how much further i could push this bugger. Ill probably try for it again and see how much volts it reallly needs to be stable.
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/image...2501f9c33d.jpg

Whats the latest Ket Bios for Deluxe?

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Whats the latest Ket Bios for Deluxe?

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Take a look on start post mate!

It amazes me how people miss this :p:

Hi Ket,

I've loaded your 1402 bios for my P5Q Deluxe, set the jumper and removed the battery however I still didn't get any logo? Bios is definitely cleared as I've had to set the date/time etc again. Is this an issue at all?

I haven't touched any settings but gained 30fps in the CSS video stress test. Haven't really looked at any other benchmarks cos I'm too lazy so I don't if your bios is loaded properly.

Don't worry about the boot logo, its somewhat of an anomaly, most see the logo but some don't. Not seeing it won't effect the BIOS at all.

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To clear the CMOS on these boards you don't need to pull the battery. The jumper near the battery is all that's needed. Just turn off/unplug the PSU, pull off the jumper, and put it on the other pins 2/3 for 10 seconds. Then put the jumper back on pins 1/2 and turn the system back on. CMOS cleared, bada-bing.

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This works for me too. Even clock is reset...

The clock shouldn't be reset without removing the battery. Given the fickle nature of the P5Q boards its always best to remove the CMOS battery as well otherwise you may experience phantom instability issues.

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The clock shouldn't be reset without removing the battery. Given the fickle nature of the P5Q boards its always best to remove the CMOS battery as well otherwise you may experience phantom instability issues.

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Then... if I've 1402m BIOS right now... but I've never removed the battery... do I have to remove it in order to avoid phantom instability issues?

Thanks.

You should.. yes,

Yes. Among other things you may find EZflash won't work without doing a proper CMOS reset.

ppl does anybody tried to flash p5q-e bios on p5q-pro mobo?

1307 is awwsome thank's ketz it's beautifull a have 250 more points in read 600 in copy 300 in write nowi will try it in overclocking :) beautifull

Well, took the plunge and flashed the 1306m R2 for the P5Q-E. No problems so far, will test later on.
Oh... and no boot logo here either lol.

They fixed it,,,,,, WOOOOOOT.................... Apparently I was right sorta.. The new revisions didn't cooperate with the Q9450s as they should and mine just got fedup with it but, the problem is I am at work right now and can't reach my PC to try it out yet. I uploaded it here for everyone.. Cheers. Ket you can mod it while I'm at work or even see what they cought that was screwing it up maybe if you want. I asked the tech to ask them what is was exactly but he said he might not get an answer but, it deffinately had to do with my CPU he said.

P.S.: It is 1403 BIOS.

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Well, took the plunge and flashed the 1306m R2 for the P5Q-E. No problems so far, will test later on.
Oh... and no boot logo here either lol.

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Axy! See PM's. ;)

Investigating 1403 now. Truehighroller, did you happen to ask if they will be including the fix for other P5Q models as well?

Well I just tried it and it didn't fix it. :(

Edit: did you ever watch my video?

Nope it never worrked right for me always taking ages :\

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Originally Posted by SPiTFiREgr

Do you mean that you have tested OCZ kits with the P5Q PRO and there is a limiting factor somewhere else but the sticks themselves? When you say 5 ram kits you mean five OCZ2N1066SR1G kits?:eek:

I'm currently running those OCZ2N1066SR1G at 1154Mhz with 360FSB (5:8 ratio) and they are stable. But as i said raising the fsb (and as a result, memory write bandwidth) there is instability with blend stress (large fft).. Do you mean the same?

If high memory write bandwidth is the cause of the instability with certain memory modules then the only thing i can think of as the cause of the problem is inappropriate timing settings set by the motherboard (because there are some timing options that cant be set by the bios. even with manual selected ofcourse).

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This is a customised spd data file for those OCZ2N1066SR1G. As your probably aware spdtool is absolutely bloody useless on P45 boards currently :down::down: However you can use spdtool on just about any other platform. Let me know if the modules play nice :up:

my new pq5-e from newegg is a rev A3 on the north.

so far all bios work fine for me on loadline. without it i get massive vdrop/droop. with it on.. it over volts alittle on load.

I wonder what changes were made... wish asus would tell people stuff like that. Usually hardware revisions fix or improve things quite noticably.

Well I am packing that video for you so you can actually just download it instead of trying to stream it. What ftp program are you using?

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I wonder what changes were made... wish asus would tell people stuff like that. Usually hardware revisions fix or improve things quite noticably.

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no idea what changed, it came with the 1201 bios stock, and so far the 14xx version is the most stable for me.

and this thing runs like 10-15C cooler than my old p35. im lovein it.

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Well I am packing that video for you so you can actually just download it instead of trying to stream it. What ftp program are you using?

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I use FTP Surfer

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no idea what changed, it came with the 1201 bios stock, and so far the 14xx version is the most stable for me.

and this thing runs like 10-15C cooler than my old p35. im lovein it.

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Keep us posted :up:

Ok try this Ket,

I tried it and it didn't work with the link,,

I put it on the server though. Do you still have the server info? You can jump on the server and download the .rar version.

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This is a customised spd data file for those OCZ2N1066SR1G. As your probably aware spdtool is absolutely bloody useless on P45 boards currently :down::down: However you can use spdtool on just about any other platform. Let me know if the modules play nice :up:

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Ket please drop me a PM with a changelog for this file if you can. Also please come thru me if you find a bug in SPD, im open to all help but I like to keep customers warranty in tact.

1307 is beautifull :) thank you very much :)
waiting for 1403 best as allways :)
maximus 2 formula is p45 chipset yes? is it possible to insert in bios same overclocking features as maximus on p5q non pro? and memory table of course like in 1307 :) this is beautiful i hope that soon it will be possible to crossflashing p5Q non pro on maximus 2 formula :)

Tony, I'll try to drop you a PM in a day or two, if you haven't got a PM in a few days just remind me I'm pretty busy atm.

Vazovskiiii, What your asking can be done, but would likely require a lot of work and BIOS re-programming on top of careful cross-referencing. For these reasons there won't be a "incredible hulk" BIOS for the P5Q series, I don't have the time, nor do I possess all the tools Asus use. Of course, if a company were to pay me *cough* Asus *cough*, then it could be a different story.

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This is a customised spd data file for those OCZ2N1066SR1G. As your probably aware spdtool is absolutely bloody useless on P45 boards currently :down::down: However you can use spdtool on just about any other platform. Let me know if the modules play nice :up:

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Woot ! When you say customized you also mean optimized timings or rated timings from OCZ?

Sadly i dont have any other platform to test them so... i'm waiting for an update of spdtool to recognize P45. I hope configuring timings from SPD bytes will fix stability problems.. Does EPP contains more settings than SPD? Or it's just a marketing renamed SPD?

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Woot ! When you say customized you also mean optimized timings or rated timings from OCZ?

Sadly i dont have any other platform to test them so... i'm waiting for an update of spdtool to recognize P45. I hope configuring timings from SPD bytes will fix stability problems.. Does EPP contains more settings than SPD? Or it's just a marketing renamed SPD?

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EPP is a laughable gimmick. About half of the speed data has been reconfigured. Heres a quick rundown of changes;

- Added 800MHz frequency to speed data
- 2nd speed profile is 533MHz, 3rd speed profile is 400MHz
- Auto Timings @ 800MHz = 5-5-5-18-42-42-4-8-4-4
- Auto Timings @ 533MHz = 4-4-4-12-28-28-3-6-3-3
- Auto Timings @ 400MHz = 3-3-3-9-21-21-2-4-2-2

Now, the more technical stuff.

- CLX-1 @ 533 is 0.50ns
- CLX-2 @ 400 is 0.50ns

TRP = 12.50ns, TRRD = 10.00ns, TRCD = 12.50ns, TRAS = 45ns, TWR = 19.00ns, TRTP = 10.00ns, TRC = 105ns, TRFC = 105ns.

Naturally, I have tested this speed file myself on my OCZ2N1066SR1G kit, all works perfectly. These timings offer an extremely good balance between performance and compatibility. EPP profiles have been left unchanged. Test platforms have been Asus Crosshair, Asus M2N-SLi, and Asus P5Q Pro.

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EPP is a laughable gimmick. About half of the speed data has been reconfigured. Heres a quick rundown of changes;

- Added 800MHz frequency to speed data
- 2nd speed profile is 533MHz, 3rd speed profile is 400MHz
- Auto Timings @ 800MHz = 5-5-5-18-42-42-4-8-4-4
- Auto Timings @ 533MHz = 4-4-4-12-28-28-3-6-3-3
- Auto Timings @ 400MHz = 3-3-3-9-21-21-2-4-2-2

Now, the more technical stuff.

- CLX-1 @ 533 is 0.50ns
- CLX-2 @ 400 is 0.50ns

TRP = 12.50ns, TRRD = 10.00ns, TRCD = 12.50ns, TRAS = 45ns, TWR = 19.00ns, TRTP = 10.00ns, TRC = 105ns, TRFC = 105ns.

Naturally, I have tested this speed file myself on my OCZ2N1066SR1G kit, all works perfectly. These timings offer an extremely good balance between performance and compatibility. EPP profiles have been left unchanged. Test platforms have been Asus Crosshair, Asus M2N-SLi, and Asus P5Q Pro.

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[strike]4-4-4-12 for 533? Isn't that tight? and 800? zomg you mean 1600ddr?[/strike]

EDIT: Got my answer from spdtool 'timing summary' myself :p

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Tony, I'll try to drop you a PM in a day or two, if you haven't got a PM in a few days just remind me I'm pretty busy atm.

Vazovskiiii, What your asking can be done, but would likely require a lot of work and BIOS re-programming on top of careful cross-referencing. For these reasons there won't be a "incredible hulk" BIOS for the P5Q series, I don't have the time, nor do I possess all the tools Asus use. Of course, if a company were to pay me *cough* Asus *cough*, then it could be a different story.

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ya i'm sure that it can be done aspecially if you would like :) you are the best :)
but i'm sure when you will have time plz do this for xtreem guys :)

I give effective frequencies not "halves".

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EPP is a laughable gimmick. About half of the speed data has been reconfigured. Heres a quick rundown of changes;

- Added 800MHz frequency to speed data
- 2nd speed profile is 533MHz, 3rd speed profile is 400MHz
- Auto Timings @ 800MHz = 5-5-5-18-42-42-4-8-4-4
- Auto Timings @ 533MHz = 4-4-4-12-28-28-3-6-3-3
- Auto Timings @ 400MHz = 3-3-3-9-21-21-2-4-2-2

Now, the more technical stuff.

- CLX-1 @ 533 is 0.50ns
- CLX-2 @ 400 is 0.50ns

TRP = 12.50ns, TRRD = 10.00ns, TRCD = 12.50ns, TRAS = 45ns, TWR = 19.00ns, TRTP = 10.00ns, TRC = 105ns, TRFC = 105ns.

Naturally, I have tested this speed file myself on my OCZ2N1066SR1G kit, all works perfectly. These timings offer an extremely good balance between performance and compatibility. EPP profiles have been left unchanged. Test platforms have been Asus Crosshair, Asus M2N-SLi, and Asus P5Q Pro.

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Why have you got TRC set so high?

TRC = TRP +TRAS...you have almost double this

Because intel chipsets need a higher TRC vs. AMD chipsets for maximum compatibility, stability and for OCing. Not all boards offer the TRC value in their BIOS (such as the P5Q series) thats why I set it higher. Its RAM 101, surprised you wern't aware of this :eek:

Here is a (and possibly eagerly awaited) modded version of BIOS 1403 for the P5Q Deluxe. No updates for any other boards as Asus haven't released any, I keep checking various FTPs and a few other places, nada. Perhaps truehighroller can ask Asus when the other P5Q boards will get the updates the Deluxe has. (hint hint, nudge nudge :p: )

P5Q Dlx mBIOS 1403

Making a new post so its seperate from the regular mBIOS stuff. I decided I would have a go at adding some interesting stuff to the P5Q Dlx and P5Q Pro BIOS (these 2 are the most downloaded, hence why I'm just doing these 2 for now)

Heres the options I will be attempting to add;

CPU GTL ref 1...3 (all P5Q boards have 0)
NB GTL ref
NB DDR2 ref
DDR2 channel A&B ref voltage
DRAM clock skew A1\2 & B1\2

In total thats 9 extra options.

Am I missing any potentially useful options from that list?

You are the man.. :up:

...Asus don't like me very much anymore do they? :p: Making BIOSes that work better than even their mighty Maximus 2 Formula..

Of course, this is assuming I can make these options work.

hi ket
what about other board
donot forget P5Q man

I say if they can't stand the heat :banana::banana::banana::banana: em. :up:

Very true :D

hi man
we still stay waiting for the rest of P45 series
let the game begin:clap:

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Here is a (and possibly eagerly awaited) modded version of BIOS 1403 for the P5Q Deluxe. No updates for any other boards as Asus haven't released any, I keep checking various FTPs and a few other places, nada. Perhaps truehighroller can ask Asus when the other P5Q boards will get the updates the Deluxe has. (hint hint, nudge nudge :p: )

P5Q Dlx mBIOS 1403

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In 1402 you use Maximus Formula Memory table and in 1403 you use P5Q Premium memory table. What's the difference if any ? and why did you revert back to P5Q Dlx memory table ?

What changes did you make to the stock bios to make this new one? Your modded 1402 is pretty good, is it worth switching to the new one?

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Originally Posted by Ket

Here is a (and possibly eagerly awaited) modded version of BIOS 1403 for the P5Q Deluxe. No updates for any other boards as Asus haven't released any, I keep checking various FTPs and a few other places, nada. Perhaps truehighroller can ask Asus when the other P5Q boards will get the updates the Deluxe has. (hint hint, nudge nudge :p: )

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My bad I didn't see you posted this. I bet it kicks ass :cool: . I just wishhhhhh I could run it my self. I will try to sweet talk my connection.

Hi

using your 1403m bios for the p5q dlx
working fine
has more optons than the auas 1302
good work

cheers

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In 1402 you use Maximus Formula Memory table and in 1403 you use P5Q Premium memory table. What's the difference if any ? and why did you revert back to P5Q Dlx memory table ?

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I went back to the Premium memory table for its versatility. I was just testing out the M2F table, working on theory that it should be able to clock memory better.. turns out with later BIOS revisions the P5Q Premium memory table pisses all over the memory table from the M2F as it better supports, shall we say "our kind" of memory ;)

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My bad I didn't see you posted this. I bet it kicks ass :cool: . I just wishhhhhh I could run it my self. I will try to sweet talk my connection.

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Sweet :D

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What changes did you make to the stock bios to make this new one? Your modded 1402 is pretty good, is it worth switching to the new one?

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Every BIOS is subjective based on a persons hardware. Its probably worth a whirl, and if not, hey you haven't lost anything, just revery back to 1402 :cool:

hi ket any chance to give us the p5q mbios with last options soon
I hope you have enough time to do it
you have a good work man

Hi Ket. I am kinda swimming in all these bios you have :) Is there a 1402M with the Premium Memory table or only the "MF" :D ??

Larry

The last Dlx BIOS to use a Premium memory table is 1306.

Thanks for the heads up :) I may try that 1 again soon. Very nice job with your Bios!

Larry

ps. You should start a fund for these.

I was thinking the same thing.

I got nothing against making money, but sadly I'm 99.99% certain I cant charge for my modded bioses or have a donations fund :(

I've heard about people getting legal threats once they start accepting donations for work like this. It's too bad that the companies & legal system only see the BIOS code being used but fail to acknowledge the time & effort you have added to make it that much better. It'd be nice to think "their loss!" and be done with it, but it's our loss too. :( I'm confident that one day we'll see companies embrace, or at least overlook, this sort of activity... which only bolsters the community around their products and helps them in the end anyway.

/rant

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I got nothing against making money, but sadly I'm 99.99% certain I cant charge for my modded bioses or have a donations fund :(

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Im sure you will be rewarded for your efforts in good time i love your 1306m bios for my Asus P5q-E so i cant ask for anymore nor should I.

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Originally Posted by Ket

Making a new post so its seperate from the regular mBIOS stuff. I decided I would have a go at adding some interesting stuff to the P5Q Dlx and P5Q Pro BIOS (these 2 are the most downloaded, hence why I'm just doing these 2 for now)

Heres the options I will be attempting to add;

CPU GTL ref 1...3 (all P5Q boards have 0)
NB GTL ref
NB DDR2 ref
DDR2 channel A&B ref voltage
DRAM clock skew A1\2 & B1\2

In total thats 9 extra options.

Am I missing any potentially useful options from that list?

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Excellent. I'd like to see Dram drive strength in there too but that's probably just a pipe dream, as it is not in any Asus bioses.

On that note, is there any way you can tell me what the option 'Memory OC Charger' actually does from examining the bios? I had a theory it was drive strength but no one knows what it does. On my M2F it makes a massive difference in overclocking the ram. I'm very interested to find out.

Also, P5Q-Deluxe has GTL Ref 0/2 & 1/3 as two separate options. It would be nice if they could be unlinked giving four separate settings like in the M2F bios. P5Q-Deluxe has NB GTL Ref setting and Dram clock skews too. The other boards (P5Q-E/pro etc), may not have them though. NB DDR2 ref and DDR2 channel A&B ref voltage would be nice options to have in P5Q-Deluxe.

Excellent work mate, you are making a big difference to a lot of people with all this :up:

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I've heard about people getting legal threats once they start accepting donations for work like this. It's too bad that the companies & legal system only see the BIOS code being used but fail to acknowledge the time & effort you have added to make it that much better. It'd be nice to think "their loss!" and be done with it, but it's our loss too. :( I'm confident that one day we'll see companies embrace, or at least overlook, this sort of activity... which only bolsters the community around their products and helps them in the end anyway.

/rant

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Saying that.. technically theres a loophole.. I could do something like "heres my if you like ket donations fund" Technically that way, I'm not accepting any money for the mBIOSes, people are donating money to me because they appreciate me, not directly linked with the mBIOSes. Legally it would also be in black and white people are winging donations in because they appreciate me, there wont be anything "on paper" that says its to do with the mBIOS :D

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Saying that.. technically theres a loophole.. I could do something like "heres my if you like ket donations fund" Technically that way, I'm not accepting any money for the mBIOSes, people are donating money to me because they appreciate me, not directly linked with the mBIOSes. Legally it would also be in black and white people are winging donations in because they appreciate me, there wont be anything "on paper" that says its to do with the mBIOS :D

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Now that you have publicly defined your "loophole" it may not work out so well. ;)

So, Ket when are you going to "release" :p: the new m bioses with all 9 plus option for P5Q-PRO, P5Q ?:confused:
I just thrilled to try a new bios with more overcloking option :yepp:
Thank you, Ket, and don't be sad, the future will recompensate you :up:

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Here is a (and possibly eagerly awaited) modded version of BIOS 1403 for the P5Q Deluxe. No updates for any other boards as Asus haven't released any, I keep checking various FTPs and a few other places, nada. Perhaps truehighroller can ask Asus when the other P5Q boards will get the updates the Deluxe has. (hint hint, nudge nudge :p: )

P5Q Dlx mBIOS 1403

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Thank you Ket:clap: