It makes me wanna try mine over 580+ ...again
It makes me wanna try mine over 580+ ...again
same....Quote:
Originally Posted by EnJoY
Jeez, this makes all those 1066 kits look kind of silly... Guess I will get these afterall.
Got my kit last week and it fails memtest even at 800mhz on maximus formula... guess I should rma it?
Everest reads tRFC as 52, could that be the problem? Should it be 55? But then again failing at 800mhz...
does these sticks work with a DFI P35?
1170 is sure possible with some select kits to boot into Windows as well as sure can't be stable, even nearly.Quote:
Originally Posted by markymoo
6.6GB/s is a joke, properly configured it should give around 9GB/s at 1000MHz.
Higher frequency not always results in higher performance.
right well first time back in awhile and glad to see you put me in the pic after being stuck at 933 and then getting 1170 i was well pleased. that pic is just a low one as i thought i killed the memory when it did 1200 into windows and then showed 2gb not 4gb but reinserting it back it showed 4gb again. i post some more when i can. it not crap when the memory is this cheap and it does this lol i will test for stability.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cronos
I went ahead and ordered this memory. $100 is just too good a deal to pass up. I wish it were this price when I got my current Geil 4GB DDR2-800 kit that doesn't o/c for crap.
No mine (non-selected kit) is booting fine at 1180 already with 2.2VQuote:
Originally Posted by Cronos
but i cannot pass memtest ;)
2.2V for 24/7 is asking for trouble. Taking into account the board most probably overvolts by at least 0.05V.
Anyway, i hope some day people stop posting useless "my CPU/memory can do insane XXXX speed, stability be damned" posts and only announce carefully tested overclocks.
blasphemy!! where's the fun in that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cronos
I did try to have my memories at 2.2 for 24/7.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cronos
I was clear. There are 2x2GB modules powerchips that boot fine at 1180 with 2.2V
that i said exactly (and they are not stable said clear again).
They might do that with 2.1V there since they boot fine at 1164MHz and pass memtest :rofl: with 2.1V already
it passed Fritz chess 11 for 2 hours in infinite analysis at 100% cpu usage without any problems thats very cpu / memory intensive. so i'm calling that stable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cronos
this im sure is not common for these since most people can not do over 1100 with them it seems???
Mate what is your lowest 24/7 limit for your current setup for 2x2GB sticks?
Wanna 1020@5-5-5-15?
Get the chipest Mushkin EM2 @ 5-5-5-15 @ 1.8V @400MHz can do it
Wanna 1080+ Get PC8500 ones all of them do 540-560 for sure.
Wanna 1130+ ? Then you have little choices 1-2
Forgot to mention I'm only interested in 8GB configurations. Anybody here with 8GB and high proven OC?
By the way, anything not including Linpack 64 is not 100% proven to me, but i can accept reality :)
well im not sure since my e8500 has not arrived yet.. for now my e8400 will do i def want them to be as high as possible though so i have options open. i have yet to put this 8400 in a mobo since i do not have ram at this time i want to really wait for the 9000+ stuff but i dont want to wait much longer
Well, I spent last night tweaking again with the new p5e Bios (602) and still no improvement. Anything above 1066 fails memtest test5 but I think it's only on the second stick. Will try to swap sticks tonight and see if it's a bad stick or something up with the p5e.
UPDATE:
Swapped the sticks tonight. Now passes Memtest at 1080, fails on test #7 above that, but I'm also back to older bios (501) with less options, due to FSB problems on 602. I'll have to reflash to 602 and see if I can get higher clocks out of these.
1063MHz here stable.
Well, at 1080, I ran and passed memtest, OCCT and Prime95, but COD4 crashed several times :shrug: I backed off to 1040 and everything is back to normal.
Wow...just picked up two sets of these sticks today and I'm impressed so far.
After numerous tries to get my Redlines to 1100 MHz with no luck these booted up at 1100 on the first try!
Now to try to go further. I think I'll run into a FSB wall for this crappy CPU before the memory.
Ran memtest all night, orthos last 2 hours. Stable so far 1066 @ 2.1v.
For some reason, I got a lot of BSOD's and reboots when I first installed.
Switched to different slots (red to yellow) and no problems, very strange....
Well, as expected, with 8GB installed there's not much in the way of OC, but still, 8GB at 1005MHz is pretty cool!
Anyway, will continue to play with these.... great stuff! $119 +tax and shipping per kit...can't beat that!
Make sure your tRFC is 54-55, 52 is not enough!Quote:
Originally Posted by zlojack
This will be very hard to detect, so most people and even manufacturer is likely to miss the problem (good for them! ) However, in the long run something nasty may eventually happen.
Yeah, I'm still contemplating flashing to bios 1004 for my Maximus Formula...which finally unlocks tRFC... otherwise I leave it on AUTO, which is 52.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cronos
I guess, I'll be flashing tonight then...
Memtest86+ errors on one set of these on Test#1 no matter what speed, settings or timings, always at the same point.:( RMA?
My set spit out errors on test 5, i sent them in. Now I'm waiting to get them back, retailer said they won't send my a new set in advance, greedy bastards.. :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by zlojack
Another good 2Gb stick... hard time to deside what to get...
What the hell????
Price has JUMPED to $150 shipped:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231145
Now the same price at the 8500 kit:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231166
^ I imagine the instant rebate has expired. Give it a couple of days and it will most likely return.
Welcome to Newegg's yield management! Almost as bad as buying an airline ticket.Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dower
I sent a complaint when they did this to me a couple weeks ago, bumping my cart costs more than $200 overnight. I got some canned response, and an offer of a $10 credit against my purchase (which was a bit over/under $2K -- I can't recall the total). Woot! $10! Uh, yeah... :rofl:
So, I ordered from them only the stuff for which they were the absolute cheapest source, and bought the rest of the parts elsewhere, rather than buying everything from Newegg. I've spent north of $10K there in the last 8 years, and I'll be damned if I'm going to remain loyal to a vendor that jerks me this badly.
Price has dropped on the 8500 kit, now $145 with free shipping:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231166
Enjoy are you going to do a write up on the 8500 kit at all in 2x2gb flavor?
If you guys want me to, I can certainly see if G.Skill would like to send me a set. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazy Chuckster
I think they should send you 2 sets so you can do a write up on 8 Gig :yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by EnJoY
Price of the 8000 kit back to $100...yay!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231145
Not a bad idea. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by SWFLTrader
I finally got my kit and got it all setup and o/c'd last night. 500x8 on my IP35-E/wolfie 8400 combo. Stock timings for now. I could memtest @ 525FSB, but Windows is not stable at more than 500MHz. I guess that means I can tighten some timings though, which is fine by me. Running SPD timings (except tRFC raised to 55) @ stock clock 1:1 with the FSB. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Edit: am I reading the first post correctly? 5-5-3-15 timings with a performance level of 4!?
Yes you are.Quote:
Originally Posted by techguy2k5
Jeez. I can't wait to try that when I get home tonight :)
One last question:
were you able to set those timings in the BIOS or did you leave everything @ SPD and set timings using memset?
I manually set 5-5-5-15 in bios and leave all subtimings to Auto.
Is it possible that changing a value in memset could corrupt my RAM? I had things running fine (pass stress-tests anyway) as high as 8.5x500, but then I started playing around with memset and now things aren't stable. I've even tried to re-install Windows and am getting errors.
I just picked these up as my ballistix died. What can I expect for timings running these 1:1 at 440 FSB? I am not the best with sub-timings, so any help would be appreciated.
You *might* get 4-4-4-12, stress might...you'll just have to give it a shot.
That would never be the case, it seems your memory may just have gone bad all of a sudden. =( PM the G.Skill Technician.Quote:
Originally Posted by techguy2k5
Who thinks the 8000 kit will drop another $5?
Things are fine after the reload. Rock-solid SMP folding 24x7 @ 8x500. Thanks though :)Quote:
Originally Posted by EnJoY
Memset 3.4 is showing TWR & TWTR at 18, but in the BIOS I set them at 10. Any idea what's going on, or is there another mem util I should be using?
It's just how memset reads the timings from the MCH register. It's not a bug in either memset, or the bios, it's simply how the register outputs the timing data.Quote:
Originally Posted by lefy
what is this saying? run memtest test#5 with 10 successful passes? so, don't worry about running the other tests while trying to lower subtimings?Quote:
Originally Posted by EnJoY
ah ok. your screenshots from page 1 seem to show it correctly. Is this because we're using different mobos with different MCH registers?Quote:
Originally Posted by EnJoY
Thanks again... very helpful as always!!
Sorry, little typo there. Yes, I mean test#5 is really the fastest test to use in memtest that will show you the errors the quickest.Quote:
Originally Posted by lefy
No, tWTR in my screen shots was under the same conditions as yours were. In reality, my tWTR was set lower than what was shown in memset, 8 iirc.Quote:
Originally Posted by lefy
Enjoy I have my memory at 1100, with the same timings as you.
The only thing different on my setup is my "performance level" is on 6 in memset by default, and If I try to lower it to 4 like in your screenshot, instant lockup.
I read the performance level is changed depending on what you have your transaction booster setting at in the BIOS?
Was yours at 4, or did you change it?
Thanks
I cannot change that in the bios settings on the IP35 Pro, it was set at 4 in Memset.Quote:
Originally Posted by Audioboxer
just ordered 2x2gb sticks for $99 :D :D
itl be paired with a e2160 and p5k-pro. heres hoping the e2160 doesnt have low fsb wall:p:
hi there i have one question:
i have asus maximus formula 1004 with G.Skill F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ but when i try to set fsb higher of 266 cause error on goldmemory test with other memory not have this is problem...i have tried many setting fsb voltage 1.5 nb 1.6 trfc high 60 80...but after 40min the mem cause error... Any of you know how I can resolve? thanks very much
Try each dimm seperately to test and see if it gives errors then ... could be a DOA....
yes i try but identical error... ok i find the problem is PL it's crazy only way to work at 400fsb(1600) is at disable 7 on bios is crazy poor very poor performance not good memory... :(((
Price has dropped again!!...it's now $95 with free shipping:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231145
Enjoy, any updates if you could get the 8500 sticks for a review?
Nope, I'll have to get on the G.Skill rep about that. :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by GoThr3k
Any ideas on this? I can't seem to lower the Performance level any, and am thinking the Fine Delay is too aggressive correct?
LarryCode:CPU Feature Page
Thermal Management Control................Disabled
PPM (EIST) Mode...........................Disabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal........................Disabled
CIE Function..............................Disabled
Execute Disable Bit.......................Enabled
Virtualization Technology.................Disabled
Core Multi-Processing.....................Enabled
Main BIOS Page
Exist Setup Shutdown......................Mode 2
Shutdown After AC Loss....................Enabled
O. C. Fail Retry Counter..................0
CLOCK VC0 Divider.........................Auto
CPU Clock Ratio...........................8.5X
CPU Clock.................................500 MHz
Boot Up Clock.............................Auto
DRAM Speed................................333/667
PCIE Clock................................100 MHz
PCIE Slot Config..........................1X 1X
CPU Spread Spectrum.......................Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum......................Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum......................Disabled
Voltage Setting Page
CPU VID Control...........................1.31875V
CPU VID Special Add.......................Auto
DRAM Voltage Control......................2.120V
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage...................1.510V
NB Core Voltage...........................1.517V
CPU VTT Voltage...........................1.119V
VCore Droop Control.......................Enabled
Clockgen Voltage Control..................3.45V
GTL+ Buffers Strength.....................Strong
Host Slew Rate............................Weak
GTL REF Voltage Control...................Enabled
CPU GTL 1/3 REF Volt......................66
CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt......................66
North Bridge GTL REF Volt ................67
DRAM Timing Page
Enhance Data Transmitting.................Fast
Enhance Addressing........................Fast
T2 Dispatch...............................Enabled
Clock Setting Fine Delay..................Listed Below
CAS Latency Time (tCL)....................5
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD).................5
RAS# Precharge (tRP)......................3
Precharge Delay (tRAS)....................15
All Precharge to Act......................4
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC)...................52
Performance Level.........................8
Read Delay Phase Adjust...................Listed Below
MCH ODT Latency...........................2
Write to PRE Delay (tWR)..................13
Rank Write to Read (tWTR).................11
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)...................3
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR)...............8
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR)..............4
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD)................5
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD)...............4
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP)................3
ALL PRE to Refresh........................4
Read Delay Phase Adjust Page
Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In.................Auto
Clock Setting Fine Delay Page
Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting................More Aggressive
DIMM 1 Clock fine delay...................Current 12ps
DIMM 2 Clock fine delay...................Current 662ps
DIMM 1 Control fine delay.................Current 600ps
DIMM 2 Control fine delay.................Current 600ps
Ch 1 Command fine delay...................Current 1062ps
Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting................More Aggressive
DIMM 3 Clock fine delay...................Current 1386ps
DIMM 4 Clock fine delay...................Current 424ps
DIMM 3 Control fine delay.................Current 374ps
DIMM 4 Control fine delay.................Current 212ps
Ch 2 Command fine delay...................Current 1112ps
Ch1Ch2 CommonClock Setting................More Aggressive
Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch1 Command to CS Delay...................Auto
Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch2 Command to CS Delay...................Auto
At stock volts, it depends on the FSB you boot at. Boot at <-335FSB and you should have PL4. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Audioboxer
PL isn't about RAM but about the chipset, so it's stability is chipset dependent.
just tested them today at 550 :)
super pi 32mb passed just fine.
Screen shots? Keep pushing! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by TEDY
560 :) 2.15v
http://shrani.si/t/2J/ag/QCtdXpa/ram560.jpg
tried 565 at those settings...blue screen :)
More votage or tRFC >52
you think? i tried 2.2v trfc lover then 52?
oh man, just read all 19 pages of this thread and great review :)
the highest i can get on my mem is 540 MHz @ 5-5-5-15 with 2.0-2.1v, but i only did quick test of 5 passes of memtest test #5.
i am not too concerned about max speed, since they will be running under spec anyways. now im trying to tighten my timings.
the lowest i can go so far without memtest errors is 5-5-3-15 with trfc=55 (passed memtest #5 10 times)
i tried 2.1v, but cant go any lower.
ive also tried 5-4-3-15 and 5-4-3-20 from 2.0-2.1v, but i get errors.
my current OC right now is 9x389 on my Q6600 with mem @ 467MHz (333/800 divider)
any suggestions on how i can get the timings tighter?
thanks!
btw, i got my kit last week from newegg for $99 shipped. they dropped about $5 a couple days ago and i was a little upset, but now they are back up to $150 so i am happy again :D
5-5-4-13 is a suggested solution though for high clocks @ 5-5-5-15
the difference is not noticeable only in benchs
sorry for the dumb question, but would tighter timings allow for higher memory bandwidth?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spyrus
thanks
Yes but mostly CAS and RAS TO CAS meaning 4-4-x-x vs 5-5-x-x
i bought one kit of these, only 82€
damn they are getting cheap :)
will posts results as soon as my mobo and cpu are in
This is what I am able to get out of my G-Skill DDR2 PC8500 2X 2Gb kit
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z...ntsettings.jpg
I don't know what the statis tread phaze adjust means in my bios though,,?
tRFC is very tight try 47-52
Write To Precharge (11) is tWR = 3 in bios too tight set it to 6.
Right now I am trying to get this ram stable at 548MHz. I was just wondering.. When I set my ram to 2.1v it idles at 2.13-2.14v and is 2.1v under load. Would this be considered dangerous in the longrun?
Hi.
This is not my best setup. I am currently working on a 1:1 setup with my Q6600 G0 @ 3,6GHz, so I can improve my ram timings, although I will not run my ram @ 500 MHz but @ 450MHz. I promise to post later on the results…
For now here is the proof that the 680i chipset can run 8GB of these sticks.
See my next post... pics from Q6600 G0 @ 3,6GHz.
Regards.
Here's my latest Memtest86+ v2.01 runs...
Attachment 76220
Attachment 76221
My Vista crashed with a BSOD and something about Memory Management. I was able to get into the BIOS just after this happened but then I got this message at the bottom of the screen...
PS/2 Mouse error or no PS/2 mouse present
Press F1.., Del...
Neither the F1 or Del keys worked. I then reset the CMOS and then I got this...
CMOS checksum error - Defaults loaded
PS/2 Mouse error or no PS/2 mouse present
Press F1.., Del...
Still neither the F1 or Del keys work. Both the keyboard and mouse are connected. I'm using a USB to PS/2 mouse. I tried a PS/2 mouse with the same results.
Since the BSOD had something to do with Memory Management I turned my attention to my G.Skill F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ memory. I removed one module. I must be lucky or something as I was able to boot into the BIOS with no error messages. Using Memtest86+ v2.01 the first module ran with no errors. I was also able to load Vista. The second module was a different story as it failed.
I was worried that I was going to have to RMA my motherboard but now it's going to be my G.SKILL memory!
what volt did you use?
2.05vQuote:
Originally Posted by GoThr3k
I have never overclocked this memory.
Hi.
As promised on my previous post,…
Take look at the following links…
http://valid.x86-secret.com/cache/banner/342586.png
http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/8...pi32zo0.th.jpg
Regards
Hi guys, amazing thread. Just got this kit plus an E8400 and an Abit IP35.
Running 9x400 and the RAM at 480Mhz@2.1v, 5-5-5-15, TrFc 48 and the rest on auto. How low can I try to set the timings at this frequency?
Two questions :)Quote:
Originally Posted by rmanuelb
1. What i sthe name of th eprogram you use for mesauring the temps, cause it's not coretemp for sure, on the screen you made it's in the right upper corner.
2. I have 4gb of geil black dragon 800mhz 5 5 5 15, and I cannot get them stable for stess tests, on 900mhz i can easily play cod4 crysis, but when I make 1081mhz, and that's what I would like te get stable with my ram I see something like suttering in the graphics which I did not have with my previous sticks 2gb reapers 1150, though I ran them 1199mhz (one of them stopped working after 3 months, while starting I had a detecting dram info and it wouldn't boot - it did boot with one stick - that is why I changed memry).
Soooo my question is is it worth to buy the gskills for my config?? (see below)
the second option would be 4x1gb crucial ballistix, but that's more expensive.
hope to get some help from Q6600 users :)))))
thx
Hi.Quote:
Originally Posted by youraa
1. The program is Real Temp not Coretemp. I believe the last version is 2.24.
2. When I got my GSkill I was not aware of the compatibility issues that I am aware today. Also I now know that GSkill does NOT recommend the use of 8GB on boards with 650i and 680i chipsets. So…. go figure. But I can say that I'm happy with the product.
GSkill I think has a major advantage... I got 8GB for more or less 240 Euros and they perform well. Concerning the other aspects of your question… I’m not the right person to give you an answer.
I think your should start by reading this post, and get some feed back from GSKill Technician.
Regards.
my stuff arrived today :banana::banana::banana::banana:
too bad i have to go on a trip for a week with school, anyone can give me some fast tips and tricks for this memory
mobo is a DFI DK P35
Do yourself a favor and go w/ the gskill! My set runs great ( G.Skill PC2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ @1052Mhz 5 5 5 15 @ 2.1)Quote:
Originally Posted by youraa
The ballistix line is crap right now: Personally, (4) 2x1gb 800DDR2 kits sent in for RMA (97435 batch)! :(
Just got my G.Skill F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ kit in the mail and ran some tests. It has no trouble doing memtest @ 2.1v 5-5-5-15 1067 or 2.1v 4-4-4-14 800 (tested all night & no errors). It doesn't even get warm to the touch :D!
My question is if I'm going to be running it at 800 w/tight timings until e8400's drop in price should I try to lower the voltage to 2.0v or should I just leave it?
Drop the voltage as low as it will go without producing errors.
Posted this in the Deals section too, $89.99 shipped today at the egg, nice ram.
Larry
Have anybody tried flashing the sticks with the SPD from the "F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK" sets? and check if clocking would still be the same. i mean isn't the only difference between the sticks a better PCB and another SPD for the PK ones?
Price is now down to $90 shipped!!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231145
Click....buy two pairs........I'll be back with 8GB results on my rig by Thursday :D.
Does newegg have a price guarantee / can I get my $10 back??Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dower
Not officially, but if you call them up or use the online chat and are ask them politely they might refund the difference if you recently made the purchase. I got $20 for my GTS after the price dropped a week after I purchased it. Give it a shot, but be aware there's no guarantee.
I think I'm going to get this ram, it should do 1068 24/7 without a problem, right?
I would hope so, thats not even hardly considered an overclock.. :p: :shrug:
Does this RAM works on nForce 650i SLI MOBO? =O
my pc will not boot with 2 sticks installed, is this normal?
i have a DFI DK P35, and i am using the orange slots
Anyone having problem using this Kit with a DFI LP P35 ?
For $90 its a steal, Can these hit DDR2-1200 ??
No, that's not right at all. It should work fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoThr3k
I've used them in both Abit P35 and DFI X38, so while I'm not 100% sure, I haven't heard anything saying these would not be compatible with your board. However, expecting 1200mhz out of these is a bit much for sure. You would need some pretty cherry sticks to be able to do that with any sort of stability.Quote:
Originally Posted by ANP !!!
Never assume an overclock, but feel free to read through this thread to see what others have achieved. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ThatGuy16
If compatibility is the same as 680i, I'd say it's hit or miss. :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by purostaff