i dunno , but log say's unlock multi for kentsfield, so i'm asking if somebody try'd yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by happyhero
didn't even knew it was already a old one :D
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i dunno , but log say's unlock multi for kentsfield, so i'm asking if somebody try'd yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by happyhero
didn't even knew it was already a old one :D
Intel's Thermal Analysis tool is much like Core Temp. It reads the internal Core temperature reading from under the heatspreader. Vs the Motherboard's diode which gets a reading from a different method.Quote:
Originally Posted by overfusion
SO i just got a 2nd p5b-d, from a different vendor, and am still having problems from hell. AT first, it was just the reseting the cmos to get it to post... every single time i rebooted. Now flashed from 0302 to 0614 and it wont post. I need a p4 or a celeron to get it to boot, which i dont have. I hate Asus. I, hate Asus. I hate, Asus.
How lucky must i be to get 2 boards wth almost the exact same problems that NO ONE ELSE IS GETTING.
that's cool ddaniel, nice idea
aaarrrrrrrggggggghhhh!! I'm in the same boat kinda....:mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Wiz33
I cant figure out how to setup a RAID 1 fresh XP pro install?!
1. I started the BIOS setup, and went to the IDE menu and set the Sata RAID stuff
2. I reboot, and press CTRL+I and go to the Intel Matrix menu andc create a RAID 1 volume.
3. Reboot again, and I'm trying to let windows setup do an install, but it's just treating the drives as IDE
:confused:
can someone tell me what the steps are???? PLEASE!!!
hi to the RAID problem people
i had the same issue as i already had the OS installed but didn't bother with F6 drivers........WELL that's necessary
if you're doing a fresh install and just the bios itself won't let you setup raid......i don't know what the issues there is.......i've tried 0609/0614 and both are fine with RAID1 >> set RAID instead of IDE and hit CTRL+I during bootup to set up the raid >> Save exit load windows press F6 load drivers and you're done :toast:
Thanks Dinos, but I'm confused about the F6 drivers...I dont see anything about it in the manual.Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
can you explain exactly what I'm missing?
once I do CTRL+I, and reboot, I insert the windows XP setup CD, and then what?
Or do I install XP, and once done then reboot and THEN press F6 and do something else? :confused:
geezus, I didn't think setting up RAID was gonna be such a pain in the @ss! OCing seems like a breeze in comparison :p:
OK put the Asus motherboard CD and boot to it
you'll get a little menu to create floppy based drivers ..........so when you start installing XP you hit F6 during startup and then when you get to the menu asking for drivers >>Putt the floppy disk in that you created and load ICH8 drviers :toast:
Wiz read the Intel ICH8R manual. You set up your BIOS as IDE originally. That's the problem. Before installing Windows, you must 1) set the BIOS to RAID, 2) create your RAID partition, then 3) F6 the drivers before you install Windows. Alternately, and this is what INtel suggests, is even if you don't plan to run RAID, is set the BIOS to RAID anyway and F6 install as well. That way you can create your RAID partition later and you should be able to do that in XP with the software or from the ROM. You also then get the benefits of AHCI and hopefully faster HD speeds anyway.
If you set the BIOS to IDE and F6 installed the drivers for RAID, the installation used the Windows IDE drivers anyway because it was set as IDE in BIOS. The BIOS must be set first. Reformat, then start over. Windows stops at the loading screen because it doesn't know it's supposed to use the RAID drivers on the boot drive. The only way you can EVER use RAID drivers on a boot drive is if you do it in the order I specificed 1)BIOS-raid, 2)f6 the drivers when you start Windows installation, 3)Windows installation. Note the first blue screen you see is where you hit F6 - at the bottom it says "Hit F6 if you need to install third-party RAID/SCSI drivers."
Why doesn't it work any other way? Simple. If you haven't done it like this, Windows can't access the drive itself because it's configured to access an IDE drive and suddenly there's a RAID drive it can't even load drivers for because it can't access the OS drive! (Catch-22!) Thus, you must be set in BIOS to RAID to begin with.
See Intel's stuff. http://support.intel.com/support/chi.../CS-021701.htm
that's awesome guys!!! thanks...I'm gonna try that.
I wish the Manual had that spelled out...of all the important things, they left this out!! :mad:
I'm sort of new to overclocking...I have an Athlon 64X2 4400+. but I have never been able to get it stable over 2.6 GHz, even on water, one of my cores is always unstable. This is my first venture into Intel overclocking, so I'm trying to take it kind of slow.
As you can see by my sig, I have very good custom watercooling. I don't have expectations of getting to 3.6 GHz, but I would like to hit 3.2.
I started off just unlocking the FSB, and upping it a bit. I now have the system running at 320 x 9 = 2.88 GHz. I am pretty happy with that for an hours experience with Intel.
I have most everything still on Auto, except for FSB, and memory timings. I have it set at DDR-2 800 with 4-4-4-12 timings. Other settings are as follows...
PCIE freq...Auto
PCI Clock...33.33 MHz
Spread Spec...Disabled
All volts...auto
C1E support...disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit...disabled
Vanderpool...Enabled (was grayed out last time I tweaked the BIOS)
CPU TM fct...Enabled
Execute Disable Bit..Enabled
PECI...Disabled
memory timings...4-4-4-12-all others auto
Static read Control...disabled
Temps from Intel's Thermal Analysis Tool are 47-50 during Prime 95 torture test. VCore is 1.376v.
This is a good start for me, I think. what I am wondering is, what now? Do I just keep incrementally increasing the FSB? at some point, I am going to have to take control of the voltages, aren't I? Are there any of the above settings I should change before I go further?
Thanks for any help,
Mark
P. S. If anyone is interested, I have a thread going on the watercooling board showing the evolution of my rig here...http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=113409
Get everything you need from the Intel website: Here Are The Downloads For The P965 Chipset.Quote:
Originally Posted by ssabripo
Once you get the latest and greatest for your MoBo, set up the RAID and install the latest chipset drivers and Matrix Storage Manager.
With the latest BIOS, 0614 it also updated the ROM in the ICH8-R to 6.1.0 which is the most recent F6, floppy configuration (for RAID) utility.
Quit messing with ASUS's CD, well, except for the rest such as sound and network.
didn't someone seriously fark up the OS recently with Intel based drivers rather than Asus CD ones........(intel still lol)Quote:
Originally Posted by Nasgul
did I tell you how much I love you guys!!!http://forums.offtopic.com/images/smilies/gfight.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Nasgul
If only the world was as helpfull as you guys, we would live in a better planet!!:toast:
I'm gonna download the new RAID drivers and the new INTEL matrix stuff as well....
Pardon my ignorance, but I can't seem to find a straight answer for this: What am I supposed to do if I only intend to use a single SATA drive, non-RAID, in my system? Will XP Setup see it and be able to install Windows to it properly, or am I supposed to make a disk first from something and do the F6 thing?
:gay: :hehe: :hehe: :hehe: :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by ssabripo
yeah it will see it BUT i suggest you still load F6 drivers in case you wanted to setup raid in future :)Quote:
Originally Posted by faceless007
Has anyone tried the DTSinteractive features, do they work successfully? ie; set dts in soundmax, makesure windows is configd for 5.1speakers, and must use spdif out to a dts capable decoder/receiver, then try a game with "surround":Prey, MOHpa, Toca3, Farcry. Your receiver should light up DTS and I usually throw a grenade then turn my back on it, or go up to a character that is speaking and do a 360 to hear his voice go around each speaker. I am asking here because it seems people are getting bsods with this onboard audio solution.
hmm guys,
i need some help:
because my stock HSF is making such bad contact (the base is like a soup bowL :() I am just focusing on ram oc at the moment.
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/950...e430dt2.th.jpg
and,
http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/678...compdf0.th.jpg
But, when I reboot, the comp fails to go into OS. It just sits there doing nothing, untill i power cycle after which it does "dual boot" and is up again?
Whats going on?
Also, can someone tell me where exactly I should go about measuring the Vcore, Vdimm? I went by Bachus_anon's guide and I got:
Bios = 1.3V
Idle (DMM) = 1.28V
Load (DMM) = 1.18V
This amount of Vdroop is insane. Any advice? I am waiting on my Tuniq Tower 120 to arrive before I can push volts.
Guys...is this normal?
At 399x7 I get a 1M pi time of 20.532 BUT at 401x7, i'm gettin ga 1M pi time of 20.943....
How is this possible?
yeah that's normalQuote:
Originally Posted by n91htmare
the strap changes at 400MHz FSB to 1333 which has really loose latency
I don't know if it changes at 400. Tests (including my own) have shown that 399 > 400 is fine, but going to 401 produces a big memory drop, so it probably switches to 1333 at 401 instead of 400
I got 3.33ghz right now (370*9) with only 1.4v to the CPU.Quote:
Originally Posted by mhorgel
Thermal Analysis temps max out @ 44°c on core #1 and 42°c on core#2 during 100% test on both cores. MOBO temp was 31°c
That was without trying really. It feels like this CPU will do so much more! :D - but saying that, it probably won't! :rolleyes:
My aim was always to get 3.4ghz from this chip. After reading people on here getting 3.5 / 3.6 etc. As this is my first major overclock I went 100mhz under them. I said that I'd be happy with 3ghz daily, but it's running so ace right now it's amazing.
If I remember correctly my FSB Termination and N/B voltage is still on "auto" as well. Will have to check that when I get back in.
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/8607/latestocce8.png
i going to get the mb in friday. I've 2*512/800 A-DATA, AD29608A8A-25EG.
ASUS said this memory doesn't work in dual chanell.:(
does anybody try this memory in p5b dlx?
bios 0614 looking good
p5b+kentsfield
multiplier change 6-10 working, fsb 450
http://82.173.172.10/Rol-Co/450.png
http://82.173.172.10/Rol-Co/cine445.png
hi guys, i just need to make sure of something. i got a new pb5 deluxe with no wifi but i can still use the 507 bios that is in wifi folder on asus ftp right? i am quite a noob as this is my first rig that i put together in my life. thanks for your help.
http://forums.offtopic.com/images/smilies/kekekegay.gif....Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
Tbh, I'm not so sure about that. The only thing I can say is I'd recommend getting the correct BIOS for the P5B-D. If you get the P5B-D Wi/Fi AP BIOS then you may get some instability down the road!Quote:
Originally Posted by hadron
:woot: Don't be silly moonraker. Of course you can use that bios. Both motherboards are identical (except for the addon WiFi card).Quote:
Originally Posted by hadron
Don't be silly Moonraker?Quote:
Originally Posted by UseAname
I never said "YOU CANNOT USE IT". I just said he MAY get some instability down the road. maybe 99% says he won't, but you can never be sure.
My answer was quite crap, so he couldn't take anything. But I never said anything wrong.
Ok, I think I have it on IDE when I did the F6 Floppy repair, I'll try it again with BIOS set to RAID. Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by sluzbenik
well since there are no bios files in p5b-d folder only in p5b-d wifi i guess i can only use those so i'll try those and see what happens. thanks a lot for the help guys.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonraker™
I'm with Moonraker. If it's not there, it's not official. Having said that, if you go to Asus' web site and look up the P5B-Deluxe non w-fi, 0614 is listed as the current BIOS. I've worked in this business too long to assume anything will work without checking first.
Ok, just an update on my RAID problem. I did a Window repair with the F6 floppy and with the controller set to RAID in BIOS and the system have came back up fine. Started OCing with the FSB at 400 and the E6300 is running at 2.8GHz. Been running Orthos with both cpu loaded at 100% for 2 hours now and it's been fine. Thank you all for your help. :toast:
Where are you guys looking?
on Asus site, they have the bios under both folders... Wi-Fi and non wifi...
and guess what.... same darn bios....
As someone said, same bios for Deluxe and deluxe wifi
I really don't wanna sound like a complete :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::b anana:, but guys, it's the same freaking motherboard :rolleyes: :p:
You sure? I hear one was made on Jupiter by the "Callon 5" group.
Acutally.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonraker™
the NON wifi deluxe i got from fry's was made in CHINA and the the WIFI one i got from a different shop was made in Taiwan......
but both the same mobo :)
My non-wifi deluxe is also made in China ;) It doesn't really matter where it's made though, imo. Runs at 500 with 1.45V on the NB. I wonder how high it can go (I doubt my memory can keep up though). I'll try it later and report back.Quote:
Originally Posted by n91htmare
edit: this is as far as I could get with 7x multiplier. Vdim 2,4; VNB:1.65. I bet the chipset could go even higher with a better cpu and ram.
http://www2.arnes.si/~bmajce3/storage/fsb.jpg
ATTENTION
Well, there I was trying to boot my rig with a 500fsb and got tired of trying and also didn't want to run the low-multi/high-fsb, so I decided to try and have EIST enabled and see how high I could go before it would hit the wall but.....
After doing some math I decided to go for a 333x9 and have everything set to auto, except for RAM and timings of course and here are the restults:
http://s13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/Coppi/th_001.jpg_____http://s13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/Coppi/th_002.jpg_____http://s13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/Coppi/th_003.jpg
That's the highest I've tried to sar but.......
Here's the kick; I no longer have the boot for 1 second, pause for 2 then a full start issue happening anymore, now it boots normally and the odd part is that it did do the boot/reboot thing at 300fsb but at 333 it's gone.
I think I'm gonna stop here because that boot/reboot thing was annoying the living crap out of me.
I don't get the reboot prob up until 350mhz fsb with EIST disabled.
I now have a strange problem with my system. If I turn the system on, everything works fine and will stay operational forever, games and everything plays fine and the Temp on the CPU and GPU is both ok. But if I do a reboot durint that time. I get no video, the system will continue to booat as I can eventually hear the Window welcoem music and by all indication, the system is up and running but with no video. If I do a hold down the power button for 4 sec to turn it off, and start again, I still do not get video but the system will continue to boot to the window welcome music. I have to actually turn off the PSU on/off button and wait a minute and then turn the system back on and eveything a fine again. Any suggestion as to what can cause this. the system is OC'ed to 400 FSB with a E6300 @2.8GHz but I kept PCI-E at 100 and PCI at 33.3 and this is with a X1900GT card. I did the same setup on a P5B ealier and have not encounter this problem.
I also have a second problem with the Pioneer DVR-111D. When the system first boot up, the DVR is fine, I can put a disc in and it play a movie just fine but if I eject the movie and put in another disc, the drive becomes non-responisve and require a reboot. Anyone encounter this one?
exactly the same problem i faced.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Wiz33
i narrowed it down to setting my Vmch to greater than 1.45. Even if i set it to 1.55V, I dont get any video out from my gfx card. Strange? Or is it?
Does this happen only on reboot? My system works fine on a cold boot. My Vcore is only 1.3625V. and my Vmem is 2.1V with my OZC Gold which requires 2.0V to start with.Quote:
Originally Posted by kidoman
Hey everyone, so my brand new P5B Deluxe arrived today, which means I'll be building a new C2D rig (E6600, Scythe Mine) in a few days, and I have some random questions about the board. Any help you guys could give would be appreciated.
1) This thread on the P5W recommends taking the NB and SB coolers off, cleaning them and re-applying them with AS5. Does this void the warranty? And how necessary is it? I don't want to do it unless the board would be really hot/unstable otherwise.
2) That same thread recommends putting the board on the antistatic bag when working on it--and some posts later, someone else says that's actually dangerous because static builds up on the outside of the bag. So which is it? Is that safe or not? If not, what should I put the board on? (BTW, I always wear an antistatic wristband attached to the computer case when working on anything, so I'm not too worried about static.)
3) The "optional" fan that comes with the board, that mounts on the fins of the NB cooler by the I/O ports--the sticker says it's only if you're using passive/water cooling, which I'm not, but I don't really see the harm it would do, especially if it keeps those fins cooler. I'm using a Scythe Mine, blowing towards rear exhaust. Should I put the optional fan on anyway?
4) I've got 2x1GB Kingston DDR2-667--which slots should I put them in? I'm confused b/c the manual says the channels go A-A_B-B, but they're colored yellow-black_yellow-black. I thought same color usually meant same channel?
5) I don't have any use for the Wi-Fi at all, and it looks like the Wi-Fi module takes up 2 more USB headers. Can I take off the Wi-Fi module and hook up those USB headers to normal ports, or is that impossible?
6) My HD is a Seagate 7200.10 320GB SATA drive, and I'm not using RAID. I can't seem to find out for sure if Windows XP Setup will recognize that drive already, or if I need to make a driver disc from something and hit F6 at setup. I know you do for RAID setups, but I'm not doing RAID, so do I have to make a special disk from something?
7) I've heard different things about how I should set BIOS settings like VCore (Auto or not), C1E support, Max CPUID Value Limit, and Speedstep. I want to OC eventually, but I'm a total n00b and just want to get the rig working and stable first. How should I set those?
Quote:
Originally Posted by faceless007
1) in general they're ok. It does void the warranty to remove them, but then if you have to remove them you probably don't need the warranty anyway.
2) I put it on top of the box is came in.
3) I don't use it and don't see a need for it. I tried it and there was no difference.
4) same color = same channel. It'a A1, A2, B1, B2 so channel 1 is A1 and B1.
5) I tried removing it but could not get it off. I didn't want to risk breaking it off so I left it alone.
6) A single HDD regardless of brand, capacity, or interface needs no drivers. It's handled by the BIOS and OS.
7) If you're just running stock with no overclock you really don't have to adjust anything. If you're overclocking then the timings and voltages come into play. Basically more voltage helps keep system components stable because at high speeds they sometimes need more power. The memory timings are important when you're overclocking because some memory doesn't like certain settings when run above the stock speeds. When you're ready to try overclocking there is a great deal of information available in this forum for this board. You can take some of the basic info and get yourself a pretty good stable overclock. When you try to go past 400Mhz FSB and higher than about 3.4Ghz it gets a little harder to pinpoint the exact setting for perfect stability. It's alot of trial and error.
1) yes, but only if they check
2) use a piece of wood.
3) the fan would be ok as long as it is going with airflow not against it.
4) yes same color is same channel so start with slot closest to cpu, and also the the 3rd slot for dual channel.
5) if it comes off easily, you could probably use those as usb headers. Not sure.
6) it wouldnt hurt to load the Ahci/raid drivers.
7) surf around here more and use the search option.
had the same problem when i did some serious ocerclocking (fsb ~500) and after lowering the fsb it still trickied me. but randomly i got it to work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wiz33
does it do that trick everytime you restart or randomly?
Unless you run in IDE emulation mode (and thus losing most advantages of SATA), you do need drivers to install Windows. ACHI is what you want for true SATA.
Everytime and I have to turn off the PSU then back on then poweron for it to work again.Quote:
Originally Posted by heikis
In that case, the manual is wrong. (Seriously, see page 2-13.) Which I can believe, but dammit, someone should fix that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dredd
Thanks, I suspected that. Should I use the updated Intel drivers or the one on the Asus CD?Quote:
Unless you run in IDE emulation mode (and thus losing most advantages of SATA), you do need drivers to install Windows. ACHI is what you want for true SATA.
Those are for when you get into Windows. To install them during the F6 prompt, you need these: http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scri...stems&lang=eng
Alright, so i've got my new p5b to boot with my e6400. it only boots with bios 0302 and 0405. BUT, i only get 1 core in windows!
I went this morning and bought an 805 D, and it works fine with every bios. Except of course the poewr down for each reboot, but it holds bios settings and both cores show up. It even overclocked to 4.1ghz @ 1.53v.
EDIT : And now i can't flash back to 0302 bios. it says the bios is older than the existing board. ??...?
Also, the clock gen beta will not work with this processor in.
Follow the stickers warning and don't install it. There's a reason for it being there... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by faceless007
I have the same problem,And it seems its not just here on these forums either,Lots of other people with same problem..Its really anoying!!! Wish asus would fix this problematic POS!:mad: :mad: :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Wiz33
looks like I have this problem as well. My monitor will go out of range and turn off and it seems to be fixed by switching the monitor off and then on againQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Bones
I thought the ones in the Asus CD were ok? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by aggybong
I have my pc disassembled, so I can't make any floppies right now, but I had put the CD in, and went to the tab to "make drivers", and then created a floppy with the Intel RAID 32-bit OS drivers...I thought this is what you are supposed to use during a fresh install when pressing F6??
ok...all hooked up, but problems from the getgo! :mad:
1. I hooked the SATA drives, floppy, video card, etc....double checked everything, and all seems like it should be. I power on the mobo, and i get nothing on the monitor, and it has a error beep:
one long beep, 2 short beeps.
I read the manual and there is NOTHING about ONE long beep, two short beeps.....just TWO long beeps and one short beep.
The 2Long, 2short beeps correspond to the floppy driver failure....so just for the heck of it, I removed power and disconnected the floppy drive cable, and it still happens:
one long beep, 2 short beeps.....
any ideas?
EDIT:..........tried disconnecting the IDE cables (from CD) as well, and still same crap :( I guess I gotta take everything apart and start over.
adata + p5b dlx problem: #426: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=426 please help:(
If you're not using the stock HS, you might have the HS cranked downt oo far. Or you could have my problem, and the shipping bios does not correctly support the core2's. I've found that only 0302 and 0405 will POST with my e6400. All the other bios will not. They all work with my 805 D though. I think some boards got uot with some MAJOR HIDDEN problems. I say this because i've had the issue with TWO boards, from different vendors. Never had any problems with the Ds3 so i know its not the cpu.Quote:
Originally Posted by ssabripo
If all it'll require is to turn off and on the monitor, I can live with it. I'll give that a try on the next reboot. The good thing is that I my sytem stays on pretty much 24/7 and the only time I reboot is after drivers or window updates.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArcTan
how do I check the Bios if I can't even boot up?:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by menlatin
should I ask for a new board or what????
So if I read this correctly, when you have 2 SATA drives, in my case a WD raptor 36Gb and a Maxtor Diamondmax 11 you need above drivers to have real SATA in windows XP?? Also what to do when you don't have a floppy drive, floppy drives are for ancient pc's, I stopped using a floppy drive 6 years ago. So how can I load these socalled drivers during windows setup without floppy??Quote:
Originally Posted by aggybong
Also on the Intel downloader site, the file f6flpy32.zip only speaks about RAID, it doesn't say anything about SATA,
so what to do what to do?? A little bit more clarification is needed before the users of this thread really start to understand all there is to know about this board. I will bet that about 95% of the people with SATA drives are doing it all wrong, let alone knew anything about having to preload these socalled drivers(if at all necessary).Quote:
The file below contains the Intel® Matrix Storage Manager Floppy Configuration Utility. This utility will create a floppy disk containing the RAID driver files for installation on a 32-bit operating system. This floppy can be used to pre-install the Intel Matrix Storage Manager driver during the F6 portion of Windows* setup.
here is what I've done in the past 3 hours:
1. I disconnected everything, and took the heatsink out, cleaned both CPU and HS with alcohol, reapplied Artic Silver 5, and disconnected all SATA, Floppy, and IDE connections. Basically, all that was left connected was the case fans, the video card, and the power connectors (both the big one and the EATX12V one).
I powered it up, and This time I don't hear any beeps, but I still dont see anything coming out of the Video Card. When I press reset, I hear ONE long beep followed by Three short beeps...and seconds later, one short beep.
2. After trying the above for several times, I disconnected the heatsink, and just put the stock heatsink, and powered it up....similar issue: no sound, but no video, until a reset which provokes the beeps as in (1).
3. I removed the CPU to check it, and put it back on, and this time did NOT put the heatsink back on (bare CPU....yes, I know its bad, but just wanted to see if the heatsink was causing any issues). I tried it again, but this time the system shut itself down after a few seconds....I assume some sort of heat alarm shutdown on the CPU or something.
I will try removing one of the DIMMs, but I doubt it is my RAM as I know several people who are running my DIMMs without any problems on this board. The problem is that I'm driving blind....I see no video output! perhaps its the video card, so tomorrow I will pick up a cheap card and see if I can see something out of the card.
if not, I will return the board for another one.
[QUOTE=Cappie]I stopped using a floppy drive 6 years ago. So how can I load these socalled drivers during windows setup without floppy?"
I believe you can "slipstream" the drivers onto windows with a cd. Try goolgling it for "how to" and "raid F6" etc.
For those of you having issues with the monitor not powering on...
I updated my post #361. I was having issues with the monitor not showing after a restart but it always worked on a full system shutdown. From what I can tell everyone having monitor issue is getting it when OC'ed correct (excluding those who can't even get it to boot ever)? If so then you might want to check something that could be causing it. Now I don't know what every individual has done for there OC but if you have NOT changed your RAM voltage from auto to a set value and have OC'ed I'm going to take a wild guess that it's causing your problems as mine was. I'm only commenting here since it "might" be helpful to some and I'm sure no one will see my update if I don't say something.
Basically the problem is that when ram voltage is set to auto it could be giving enough for a power up but not for a restart. Strange I know but it seems to be the only logical explaination to what I found. So if you are running your ram voltage on auto and have your ram OC'ed try turning it down to or below your ram's specifications and see if the issue persists. If it goes away then follow my advise and set your ram voltage to the correct value because unlike setting Vcore to auto which will almost always allow your system to boot even if that means setting the value much higher then needed, setting RAM voltage to auto does not seem to cause the same results.
Just an FYI that might prove to be useless to all of you or could be a possible solution. Just trying to help. :)
my mem voltage and vcore settings are all done manually
Changed mine from auto to a set value 1.95v and it came right on 4 or 5 reboots and full shutdowns WOOOOOHOOOO!!!!!! Im a happy camper Thanks JayG:toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by JayG30
I found following site that describes how to load these SATA/RAID drivers and slipstream them into XP,
http://www.xpcreate.com/raid.htm
I don't have this P5B deluxe mobo yet cuz I am still trying to sell my AMD opteron/DFI system, but in meanwhile maybe some of you here can test this driver out and see if it makes a difference. I am still assuming you need these SATA/RAID drivers eventhough you'r not running RAID?
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/7931/sataim6.jpg
Above screenshot shows you how you can test the speed of your SATA disks, so lemme know if preloading this driver for the P5B made a big difference.
Yup and the stupidly simple fact that even a blind man could see it's gonna ruin air flow dramatically...Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeBar
:wierd:
* Processor: e6300
* Bios Revision: 0614
* Memory: Patriot 2GB pc-5300
* Configured Voltages: default
* Configured FSB: default
* Configured Ratio: default
* Configured Memory Timings: 5-5-5-15 (default)
* Any other applicable configuration modifications:-
My problem is:
When system is turned off for a long time, then after turning on 2 weird things happen:
1. Asus PC probe can't see chasis 2 fan. It reports 0 rpm.
Fix: I restart, enter bios, enter hardware monitor- bios can see chasis 2 fan, then i hit "save and exit"- and everyting works fine- pc probe detects ch2 fan.
This doesn't happen when system simply restarts- only when it's turned off for a longer time.
What to do to avid that ?
Something with bios power options ?
2. System turns on with 60Hz refresh rate instead of 100Hz (i have CRT monitor)
I have radeon x1800xt, catalyst 6.8 installed.
In catalyst Displays Manager 100hz is set- but still, system starts with 60Hz.
I also use ReForce (i set 1024x768 to 100Hz- this is the only resolution I use.)- and it also doesn't help.
Fix1: I have to change rate in catalyst to 60 Hz and then to 100Hz- it works.
Fix2: enter Reforce, only hit "apply" (100 Hz set is still there) and restart computer- it starts with 100Hz.
What to do to avoid that ?
Hows about someone email ASUS and tell them the link to here. I'm sure they'd like to see how much we love their gorgeous P5B-D series... but erm.... well maybe some helps on it!
I have no problems with it at all (I'm on 0507 BIOS). The only thing is the "fake start". At first I thought it was something stupid like my fans taking too much amps or something (lol) and tbh, that was supported as each time I turned them off fully it booted sweet. But then after OCing it did the same thing regardless.
Also, the JMicron PATA / SATA splash screen.
Jeez I wish I had of got a SATA DVD/CD RW+/- now!
Those are my only 2 gripes.
Update on this SATA issue, below screenshot is a HDtach bench on my current setup(AMD opteron, see sig),
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/2685/mezl0.jpg
and here's HDtach bench done on my friends P5B deluxe,
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/3017/bunselke3.jpg
we both have the same harddisk, a western digital Raptor 36Gb, notice that HDtach doesn't even read his burstspeeds, its all grayed out, missing bars etc, his average speed is also waaaay too high and obviously isn't correct.
So is this then confirmation that the P5B Deluxe needs drivers for SATA drives to work and be detected correctly?? And yeah Asus should be commended for having made the most confusing mobo ever.
UPDATE :
this taken from microsoft software forum network,
all of this seems to fall perfectly in line with my mates PC, he too has a western digital and going by HDtachs results, its clear that he needs to update his drivers in same way as described in above quote. If anyone could verify this then plz let me know your results. I can't test anything since I don't have an intel setup just yet. You'll ofcourse have to show windows the correct ACHI driver for this new chipset, so don't take the quote to heart as its for an older dell intel setup, but it should work in exactly the same way:)Quote:
I found a way to enable AHCI mode without doing a factory-reinstall of the OS and without a floppy. This is the gist of it, although you may want to read some of the replies for clarification. Bottom line, don't allow Windows to search for the driver, and you need to find the driver information file IAHCI.INF (this is for AHCI and NOT RAID). For Dell owners, its on the ResourceCD, and it was also on my HD in the DRIVERS folder:
WARNING: This went smoothly for me, but I don't think it's without risks. Obviously, if you mistakenly install an incompatible driver, you could render the drive unbootable and be forced to reinstall the OS. I was at a point where I was going to do that anyway if this didn't work.
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1) go into bios and select 'RAID/ATA' option
2) install xp [not necessary if already installed]
3) boot into xp
4) go to device manager and update the ide controller that's connected to
SATA drive. make sure you force it to select
'Intel® 82801FR SATA AHCI Controller'
*note- u can get the driver from dell CD or u can download R78496.exe
from dell, but in this case, u'll need a PC with floppy to extract
the image unless u have winimage, but i'm not sure if it's gonna
extract it for u. *forget to mention that u still need to be able
to access those driver either by lan, cd/dvd reader, hardrive to
hardrive,etc....
5) make sure you don't update the driver for PATA IDE. if you do that,
you won't be able to boot back into windows regardless of which mode u
choose in bios for ide controller.
6) after u update the driver for the IDE attached to your SATA drive, windows
will ask you to reboot.
7) once reboot, go into bios before windows start and change 'RAID/ATA' to
'RAID/AHCI'
8) save and exit bios, now you should be able to boot into windows and install
intel application accelerator.
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This is part of an extended discussion of SATA drives in RAID and AHCI configurations and the problems with reinstalling the OS if you don't have a floppy drive. By the way, if you're looking to buy a new system, I definitely recommend getting the floppy drive, and I would have if I known that I was going to face these kinds of issues, but Dell (and Gateway-you can't even get an internal one on some systems), by making the stupid things optional, seems to be suggesting that it's obsolete technology that we can do without. Here's the link: http://forums.us.dell.com/supportfor...cending&page=4
Hmmm, I just read the Intel manual before I got my system, so this wasn't an issue. I think anyone building a computer would know you need to install the AHCI or RAID drivers first to get SATA 2.0 speeds...
As I said in my explanation a few pages back, if you just install RAID you automatically get AHCI. Then you can build a RAID config later off your boot drive. I see no reason to just install AHCI drivers...But I suppose you can use the above method to go to RAID later if you really want. Just another step though.
But I just read manuals, if someone else has more information, please share.
I think you only need the Intel drivers if you intend to run RAID, individual SATA drives work fine without the drivers, at least on WinXP Pro SP2.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cappie
Below are the HD-Tach results for my Maxtor 300GB SATA II drive, with no extra drivers installed, speeds look fine to me, other than the spikes in the graph, caused by the drive being the boot drive.
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/2525/hdtachme6.gif
Quote:
Originally Posted by ssabripo
c'mon guys...gimme a hand here...I'll buy lunch!:p:
:(
So that HDtach screenshot of yours is from a raid setup, cuz 214Mb/s burstspeed seems a bit much for plain single SATA?Quote:
Originally Posted by Raz2133
EDIT : also little extra question, according to this formula,
http://xtreview.com/images/nbcc_01.jpg
what is the maximum frequency for the north bridge core on a P5B deluxe mobo??? What voltage does northbridge need at what Mhz, suppose I use a E6400 and I clock it to 3.2Ghz using a FSB of 457 and a multi of 7, then the NBCC would amount to 522Mhz. So is a voltage increase necessary for NB? Is it safe to have it running at 522Mhz, cuz its twice the default value?
It sounds uber stupid, but all CPU cables are connected and the +4 pin on the mobo?Quote:
Originally Posted by ssabripo
cpu cables??? you mean the CPU fan? yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonraker™
4+ pin you mean EATX12V? yes.
yup.
I mean at the top of the mobo there are 2x4 pin CPU connectors. Or at least i think it's 2x4.
yeah...done all that...trust me. I've built and OC'd 3 PCs so far, and no problems until this one! I've never spent more than $110 on a mobo, and now I go for the "luxury" item super duper P5B deluxe Wifi-AP that everyone raves about, and nothing but trouble :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonraker™
I know at the end it will probably be something stupid I did or some incompatibility issue with my hardware, but man, this is frustrating~!
No RAID, just a single Maxtor 300GB 16MB cache SATA II drive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cappie
The burst speed was only around 110MB/s until I moved the jumper on the rear of the drive to enable SATA 3Gb mode, then it jumped to 214MB/s
It sounds like a RAM issue to me. I know you said previously that you know of people running the same RAM in the P5B-D, but a lot depends on what BIOS revision they were running. It is possible your board has an early BIOS without many of the RAM fixes.Quote:
Originally Posted by ssabripo
Is it possible for you to borrow some generic DDR2 RAM to test with?
Quote:
Originally Posted by ssabripo
What RAM are you using? Can you get ahold of any other DDR2 RAM and give it a try? My P5B-D will not boot at all with my OCZ Gold till I got ahold of some other RAM that it will boot with and update the BIOS.
Nice to know, thnx for clearing that up for me Raz!!!
I have the Crucial Ballistix PC6400:Quote:
Originally Posted by Wiz33
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820146565
http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggIma...146-565-01.jpg
I went to Best buy at lunch and bought one DIMM of PC4200 DDR2 Kingston, and I will try that....I also bought a cheap generic PCIe nvidia card, just to make sure it's not the video card. I;ll try all of this once I get home.
ps- check out the 1st review on newegg....some guy used it with this mobo no problems at all....:(
The P5B Deluxe (none WiFi) and Wifi version too wont boot up with G.SKILL F2-8000PHU2-2GBHZ i tested it with three different motherboars and none of them worked with G.SKILL F2-8000PHU2-2GBHZ on 0614 bios. But on default bios which came with board everything was ok. Of course you can change voltage to 2.3 useing different memory to do it and it will boot up but it will bee veary hard to do some oc because of instability. So seems like the 0614 bios has some problems with G.SKILL F2-8000PHU2-2GBHZ. The default bios was 0405 i guess actually i dont remember :D
well...right now I can't do anything with BIOS...I can't update, I cant see what's there, I cant do anything until I see something on the screen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kuulais
I will try this kingston ram, and if it doesn't work, I will send this thing back :(
Well I'm just glad it helps someone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Bones
I know that many people will immediately change there RAM voltage to a manually set value but I like to mess around and see what everything does and I noticed this issue. This is a problem with the board though as setting it to auto should cause it to select a value that actually works even if that value is higher then needed.
"ssabripo" it really sounds like a RAM issue to me. Not only do you have to take those reviews people post with a grain of salt but also not all RAM is equal. Some people with corsair RAM are getting immediate boot up with this board and others are not. Your RAM might be slightly different voltage or something. Or your RAM could just be bad??? A video card really doesn't seem like it would be the problem. I will give you the same advise that I gave when I had RAM issue. Go to best buy and buy some generic kingston RAM with a 1.8v rating. After you use it and get the board to boot bring it back and get your money back. Worst case you'll get a definitive answer of if it is the RAM or not instead of sitting there and tearing your hair out. Oh and also let me point out that my RAM that was rated at 2.1v also did not boot on this board with the shipping BIOS 302 (I think???). Your RAM is 2.2v and I seriously doubt it will boot on this board until you update to a different BIOS or change the RAM voltage.
ok..I'm really thumped now! :(
I got some Kingston PC4200 ddr2 ram, and new video card, and installed them.....same thing! did not work.
However, I kept rebooting and rebooting like 30 times, and about time # 14 I actually got a screen!! but it said somethinng like American megatrends or something, and then RAM ok, and then "OVerclock failed".........which makes me believe this board was NOT new :mad:
I did not have the floppy drives connected, so I rebooted and never could get back to that screen.....and now, when I put the floppy drive on, it had one long beep, 2 short beeps, and this repeated over and over....and when I press reset, it would go back to 1 long beep, 2 short beeps. :confused:
anyways, I tried it over and over for about an hour, and could not get to this again..........and tried my own PC6400 and video card, and combinations thereof (my video card with kingston RAM, viceversa, etc), and nothing.....same old thing. :mad:
I think this is a bad board guys....what do you think?
The board should have told you that your OC failed because it is reading a newly inserted CPU which is not suprising since you've tried to start the machine many times now. SO it should have told you to press F1 or F2 to either enter BIOS and change settings or load defaults and contine startup. What voltage rating is the kingston RAM? Or just tell me actual product number of the RAM.
EDIT: nevermind all Kingston RAM should be 1.8v. It's strange that you got it to boot once but not any other times. I think go over it once more and make sure everything is ok, disconnect anything that is nto needed (floppy, ide-drives, etc) and try to see if it will boot again. If not then I'd have to say it is a bad board.
yup...just did that in between these posts....disconnected everything, restarted from scratch....NOTHING...same CRAP!!!:mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by JayG30
I'm gonna RMA and get a new board and see if my luck changes.:(
Have you try resetting the BIOS. Remember to remove the battery before you do the jumper reset.
well...I just got off with ZZF, and they said I'm pretty much S.O.L....the item is non-refundable...they will only replace or repair. :mad:
-e6600
-0614
-Vcore=1.6 Vfsb=1.45 Vnb=1.55 Vdimm=2.1 to 2.45
-380Mhz max fsb
-1:1 with mem
-Mem timmings 4 4 4 12
-Speadstep disabled
Ok my problem is i cant get my memory to OC AT ALL!! Im not talking 100Mhz or anything. It max's out at 420 at 4 4 4 12 no matter the volts. I want to run it at 4:5 with my cpu. But i cant do it, so i tried to up the timmings to 5 5 5 15, still nothing. Then even tried it at 5 5 5 15 and 2.45 Vdimm(max with out mods) and still windows is not stabe. Whats wring here, the mem is fien at stock 400Mhz 4 4 4 12, but there are XMS2 EPP they should overclock. Is there some setting im missing here? Thanks
The ram is Corsair 2x1Gb MXS2 DDR2 800 4 4 4 12
Ok guys....some progress:
after taking everything apart for the 11tybillionth time, and putting it back together, I finally got the bootup! I reverted back to my own Memory (Crucial ballistix) and it works, albeit intermidently. I also put my old video card back on there, and it also dispalys something.
So, I was happy for a little bit....I was able to set the RAID configuration, and created the RAID1 volumes. However, once I wanted to start the windows install, the CD-rom would not open...no power nothing. I unplugged the IDE cable to make sure all was proper, and with the cable disconnected, the CD-ROM responds (opens, closes, etc), but with the cable connected, it goes dead.
I tried different cables to make that wasn't it, and still nothing. :mad:
When I power down the PC, 2/3 of the time it goes back to the Bios error beeps, and 1/3 of the time it boots up, but still, nothing on IDE.
it HAS to be the motherboard right? I mean, if it was a PSU problem or something, what would the symptoms be?
Read the spec on your RAM and on next bootup (wait for evrything to cool down). Go into BIOS and immediately set the correct RAM voltage (If the Crucial is 1.8, try giving it 1.85 or 1.9) and then reboot before you go any further. My OCZ will boot on the P5B when cold but would freeze during window install till I set the correct voltage in BIOS. Then Once Window is installed, you can update BIOS.
Krebudi - that's where my Corsair 6400 C5 maxes out too...You should be able to do better than me though, anything above 422 is out.
I can Memtest all day at that speed though, just dual-PI isn't stable.
You can try upping vcore I suppose...my temps get too scary and 1.5 volts didn't make a difference for me.
SSabripo - make sure JMicron is enabled in BIOS and set to IDE...for Windows just put your CD-ROM on it. If you don't see the JMicron boot screen with the annoying "Press any key to continue" message then it's not working.
I had the same problem with my Samsung RAM on the P5B-D, however after I disabled 'Static Read' in the BIOS my Dual Super-PI issues vanished :)Quote:
Originally Posted by sluzbenik
Yea i can mem test all day too. But you have the sticks that are made for 5 5 5 15 at 400Mhz, if mine are made for 4 4 4 12 at 400Mhz they should do great at say 480Mhz 5 5 5 15 and 2.45 volts. But nope.Quote:
Originally Posted by sluzbenik