Bleh...I guess i'll have to start hunting...
Btw, I've NEVER had good luck with dividers...so....
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Bleh...I guess i'll have to start hunting...
Btw, I've NEVER had good luck with dividers...so....
Sorry to say this but I ordered an opty 165 oem from monarch on the 17th of May and I got it today and its a CCB1E 0606VPMW not a 0610DPMW. I have heard good things about the 0606VPMW though so I am not upset yet, lmao. I will report back tonight with results.
*EDIT* Top is off, results will come soon.
30 mins huh? Looks like I've wasted a lot of time and effort. I had my proc at 3.0Ghz last week, stable for two hours...argh.Quote:
Originally Posted by itznfb
Totally disagree with you there m8. 30min is far from 'prime stable'.Quote:
Originally Posted by itznfb
You need to do at least 12hrs to be considered prime stable in my book. Im only 100% satisfied when I have completed a 24hr session.
agreed. a lot of people have different ways of determining stability, but a nice 12-24 hour prime is probably the best way IMO. i usually do 8-12 because i cant leave it running for 24 hours without wanting to play a game or so.
12hrs is rediculous.. 2hrs is fine, straight from the writer of prime95.
Personally I just let Rosetta run and if no WU's error then I'm good. That combined with gaming, since the added heat from the video can make it crash sometimes.
Got some results! Things are looking good. It failed prime at 1.43V 2.8Ghz and I was like WTF! So I took off the waterblock and it turns out I put one too many layers of electrical tape on and half the core wasnt being cooled so I reapplied ceramique and booted at the same voltage and have been prime stable since. I have a feeling it can make it to 2.8Ghz at stock voltage. I also have to say that the memory controller on the CCB1E is much stronger than my CCBWE.
Add me to the chart, more results will be coming but 0606VPMW isnt on there yet.
Model: 165
Stepping: CCB1E
Date: 0606
Package Code: VPMW
CPU Frequency: 2808
VCore: 1.43 in bios
Cooling: Watercooling
Load Temperature: 38C
Prime Stability: Prime Stable
you can disagree if you want... but anything more is a waste of time in my opinion. what are you stabilizing for? if i prime stable for 30 min, there isn't a program i own that will freeze, or cause win to reboot.Quote:
Originally Posted by scoobie dave
30 mins for benching only defeats purpose imho. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by itznfb
Nice babalouj :) Now try 3.0@stock, quick, no messing around :D
LOL, I am too scared to try 3Ghz because I piss myself. I have had phase and watercooling for a while and never been able to get to 3Ghz because of cold bugs and crappy clockers. This may be my chance to get to the magic 3Ghz. I am currently moving up in 50Mhz jumps so I can see the actual characteristics of this chip. I am currently priming at 2.85ghz with 1.43V. It sucks that I will be moving to Charleston SC on Thursday because with packing I wont be able to overclock as attentively as I would like but I will post updates as they come.
lol, you guys are slow.. I always start at some uber rediculous thing like 3.0@1.35 then move down! haha, i'm opposite of everyone..
That way is really efficient though, allows you to find the max in ~30mins :)
Definitely. There is nothing stable about 30 mins in prime. Its its Prime "stable" at all it should be able to go at least 8-10 hours without an error. Prime stable means it can run days without an error, not 30 minutes.Quote:
Originally Posted by scoobie dave
Its no wonder there are so many high overclocks on this forum. Some people only run Prime for 30 mins lol.
I would like to see where he says that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Repoman
This is from the Prime95 Stress.txt file.
Quote:
Q) How long should I run the torture test?
A) I recommend running it for somewhere between 6 and 24 hours.
The program has been known to fail only after several hours and in
some cases several weeks of operation. In most cases though, it will
fail within a few minutes on a flaky machine.
Quote:
Q) A forum member said "Don't bother with prime95, it always pukes on me,
and my system is stable!. What do you make of that?"
or
"We had a server at work that ran for 2 MONTHS straight, without a reboot
I installed Prime95 on it and ran it - a couple minutes later I get an error.
You are going to tell me that the server wasn't stable?"
A) These users obviously do not subscribe to the 100% rock solid
school of thought. THEIR MACHINES DO HAVE HARDWARE PROBLEMS.
But since they are not presently running any programs that reveal
the hardware problem, the machines are quite stable. As long as
these machines never run a program that uncovers the hardware problem,
then the machines will continue to be stable.
I think i'm just going to start running Prime for 30 mins too. That way i can brag about how most all my chips hit 3GHz because with the right voltage i've got three 0610's in a row that will all do 3GHz for 30 mins.Quote:
Originally Posted by itznfb
That's what I do!.Quote:
Originally Posted by Repoman
Anyway, mine seems to have a good mem controller.:D 2.9G with the 10 divider: Still on air, but not for long :)
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/309...028v5bg.th.jpg
you want to sit there for 12 to 24 hours watching prime like a moron go right ahead. once i find a clock that doesn't prime at 30min, i back down two HTT and prime for 2 hours, i would never go beyond 2 hours, its rediculous.
30 minutes is way more than reasonable for benchmarking, most people don't test stability at all for benchmarking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reinvented
This long enough for you burninggrave?
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/8...14259oj.th.jpg
For most of these chips (especially ccb1e) prime is completely useless, if it doesn't error in the first hour or so it never will. Some people don't like to waste time :rolleyes: Not to mention the fact that Rosetta is MORE stressful than prime, and I've been running it for the past week.
So please, if 30mins is enough for him, it's enough for the rest of us.. :rolleyes:
Oh, and btw..my ccbbe 0610..
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/7...z15v3hm.th.jpg
can I start bragging about how all my chips hit 3GHz with the right voltage now :rolleyes:
edit: hmm, I think about 5 seconds of prime is reasonable for benching.
Quote:
Originally Posted by itznfb
^^ that's what i do, hit a wall, lower clock by 5HTT and then leave rosetta running.:)
Now, now...settle down fellas! Remember, we're supposed to keep this thread clean. ;)
So, Repo...if i go for another 170, should i try Monarch?
If all you use the machine for is benchmarking then sure 30 mins or 2 hours even is probably more then enough but for a 24/7 machine thats considered stable? Not in my book or anyone that understands the idea of being "Prime stable". Just because your system doesn't lock up or reboot doesn't mean that errors aren't occuring at different times. Errors cause data corruption and or miscalculations in software. When Prime95 detects an error your system doesn't lock up or reboot does it? Well your system doesn't lock up or reboot when your CPU is spitting out a 2 instead of a 4 while your using it ither.Quote:
Originally Posted by itznfb
I really think there should be a standard we set in order to be entered into any kind of database here because that way things would be more accurate. When you've got some people testing for 30 mins and others for 8 hours and others for 24 hours you have really mixed results. Plus it just sorta annoys me when you got people bragging about a 3.1GHz overclock or something and they failed to mention they only tested for 30 mins while i'm making sure i test for at least 8 hours. But hey, maybe i'm the only one that feels that way :).
nice clocks Repo, you've done some killer OCs.
Repo is right about Prime not failing in 30-60min. after that period of time, the failure rate is dependant on temperature only. it WILL fail if you prime long enough, its just depends on when you get enough temperature variance. as many other well known OCers have described, they've seen prime fail due to 1/10 of a degree difference after 24+ hours of priming. so all i can say is... total waste of time.
edit: to reinvented
Up to you man, no way I would do it.. I've had great experience with dividers :) and 165's
Basically.Quote:
Originally Posted by burningrave101
itznfb knows how it is :D
If I can't sell this CPU then, and recoup some money, then I'll either get a 165, or i'll open this box and see what she can do. I'm sure I might be able to hit 2.8 around the voltage that I need.
More than likely, I will try for a 165 though...
@Reinvented, i would save yourself the hassle. good 165 steppings are so much easier to find. you get a CCBBE and you're pretty much gauranteed 2800+
almost always higher though
im gonna trade in my opty that does 3.0ghz at 1.475v for a 165 ccbbe 0610, plus 130 cash. is that a good deal or not?