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02-08-2009, 02:31 PM
nkresho

Mine are stuck in a funny way actually. Sensor 0 seems to be working perfectly, 1 is exactly 7 degrees lower than 0 all the time, 2 and 3 work perfectly above 39c but won't ever read anything below that.

I've mounted the cpu block at least 4 times with new tim each time, yielding the exact same results every time.

The sensor 2 and 3 thing happened after running the chip for 3 to 4 days in my system. At first they worked just as well as 0.

As long as I have more than one sensor working reasonably well under load, i feel the thermal shutdown can failsafe if there is an issue.
02-08-2009, 02:53 PM
viccan

Quote:

Originally Posted by radaja

people visit pages 3-4-5 and see even then people were getting vids of 1.25 and stuck sensors,all this talk is making us new users feel like weve been cheated but in fact it just a poor sensor design.

Screw the sensor I want speed and this cpu provides plenty:) Dont get me wrong Im not getting a 60% overclock as I did with my Q6600 but I also didnt hit 4GHz+ on air with that either :) And as far as I'm concerned I got a 1.16vid and damn happy with that :yepp:
02-08-2009, 04:54 PM
mreld3r

And not "1" mhz more,,,I spent all day and this is all she has in her.

http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/banner/503199.png
02-08-2009, 07:47 PM
BababooeyHTJ

Quote:

Originally Posted by radaja

people visit pages 3-4-5 and see even then people were getting vids of 1.25 and stuck sensors,all this talk is making us new users feel like weve been cheated but in fact it just a poor sensor design.

You just described my e8400. My Q9650 is on it's way. I hope that I get a decent batch.
02-08-2009, 09:54 PM
radaja

bababooeyHTJ,they are all pretty good batches in my opinion.i mean three or four different people bought 9650's within a fews days of when i bought mine all different batches and all great OCers.hell if it does 4.1ghz then to me it an awesome chip.and by the way........YOUR GOING TO HAVE ALOT OF FUN WITH IT!
02-09-2009, 12:06 AM
Jor3lBR

EP45E+Q9650@4352Mhz 1.32vcore 1.3vtt 5:6 Strap DDR2@1230Mhz_PL8

Hi Guys,

Got the Gigabyte EP45-Extreme to play with my Q9650 L820A930 07/08.

Main objective was to get to know the Extreme board and compare it with my UD3P.

I used the strap 5:6 and I got to say it was a pleasure at 1230Mhz rams where doing fine. Still un-tweaked but if I have more time during the week I'll post updates.

All low volts for people that want 24/7 use: 1.32vcore, 1.30vtt, 1.50pll, 1.440vnb, 1.20vsb (except ram that was on Auto but can be lowered to 2.060vdimm).

[System Setup and Ranking]

CPU: Q9650@4352Mhz 512x8.5 :up::up::up::up::up:
Mobo: Gigabyte EP45-EXTREME DDR2 :up::up::up::up:
Cooler: CollIT Domino A.L.C.:up::up:
Ram: 4gb G.Skill Pi 9600 :up::up::up::up::up:
Video: ATI HD4850 :up::up:
PSU: SilverStone OP1000-E :up::up::up::up::up:
Voltages:
1.32 vcore / 1.30vtt / 1.44mch

[System Pics]
http://i40.tinypic.com/295pv7p.jpg*********http://i40.tinypic.com/2dw88s6.jpg

[BIOS Template for Gigabyte Users]

Code:

******Gigabyte EP45 EXTREME****** [u]MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.) Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 8X Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................: +0.5 CPU Frequency ...........................: 435Ghz (512x8.5) Clock Chip Control Standard Clock Control CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled] CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 518Mhz PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:100Mhz C.I.A. 2......................................: Disabled Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter] CPU Clock Drive...........................: 800mv PCI Express Clock Drive.................: 900mv CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: 0ps MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: 0ps DRAM Performance Control Performance Enhance...................: [Turbo] Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Profile1 (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto] System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.40B Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1230Mhz DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual] Standard Timing Control CAS Latency Time........................: 5 tRCD .........................................: 5 tRP'...........................................: 5 tRAS..........................................: 15 Advanced Timing Control [Press Enter] tRRD...........................................:3 tWTR..........................................:3 tWR............................................:4 tRFC...........................................:50 tRTP...........................................:3 Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2 Channel A Channel A Timings Settings [Press Enter] Static tRead Value.........................: 8 tRD Phase0 Adjustmen...................:Auto tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................: 9 Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................: 7 Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................: 8 Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................: 8 Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............: Auto Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............: Auto write Training .......................: Auto Channel A Driving Settings [Press Enter] Driving Strength Profile:[AUTO] Data Driving Pull-Up Level.............:Auto Cmd Driving Pull-Up Level..............:Auto Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level...............:Auto Clk Driving Pull-Up Level...............:Auto Data Driving Pull-Down Level.........:Auto Cmd Driving Pull-Down Level..........:Auto Ctrl Driving Pull-Down Level...........:Auto Clk Driving Pull-Down Level............:Auto Channel B Channel B Timings Settings [Press Enter] Static tRead Value.........................: 8 tRD Phase0 Adjustmen...................:Auto tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................: 9 Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................: 7 Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................: 8 Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................: 8 Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto Write Training .......................: Auto Channel B Driving Settings [Press Enter] Driving Strength Profile:[AUTO] Data Driving Pull-Up Level............:Auto Cmd Driving Pull-Up Level............:Auto Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level.............:Auto Clk Driving Pull-Up Level..............:Auto Data Driving Pull-Down Level............:Auto Cmd Driving Pull-Down Level............:Auto Ctrl Driving Pull-Down Level.............:Auto Clk Driving Pull-Down Level..............:Auto {U]Motherboard Voltage Control{/U] Voltage Type.………... Normal CPU CPU Vcore….……….........................: 1.450v CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: 1.30v CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: 1.500v CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: 0.806v CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......: 0.843v MCH/ICH MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: 1.440v MCH Reference….…….0.760V...........; 0.823v MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: Auto ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: 1.500v ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: 1.200v DRAM DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: Auto DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: Auto Channel A Reference 0.900V............: Auto Channel B Reference 0.900V............: Auto [b]{U]Advanced Settings[b]{U] Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled] No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled] CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled] C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled] x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled] CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled] CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled] Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled] Note: * refers to 45nm CPU

[Stability Test Prime95 Small FTT's 3hrs]

http://i43.tinypic.com/k011y9.jpg

[Memory Benchmark]
http://i43.tinypic.com/25rjrzp.jpg

Goal is to see whats the max stable I can go on FSB with the 8.5 multi. Baby steps...
02-09-2009, 03:10 AM
andressergio

Congrats Jor !!!

That's a damn good lookin' setup :up::up:

Cheers
Sergio
02-09-2009, 05:13 AM
mreld3r

hey jor, i wanna see what that board can do. I 'almost' bought an open-box version of that board. But I wasn't sure of what it could do. I "know" that a ud3p could clock well, its already proven itself.
If anyone can clock an extreme board; YOU can do it.
I know that the extreme version has a lot better voltage reg. So theoretically it can really do great. I'm just not sure about the bios, and its updates. The ud3p seems to get a lot more updates. (even though; they dont seem to be working real good). :shrug:
I really like the Nb-cooling on that extreme; my ud3p gets very hot to the touch with high-fsb runs.
02-09-2009, 05:23 AM
Makubex_GB

Quote:

Originally Posted by nkresho

I've been reading this thread long enough, time for me to contribute.

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/c...0/IMG_0595.jpg

Batch: L826A965
VID: 1.250

Board: P5Q Deluxe (open box from newegg)
Bios: 1702
DDR: OCZ Reaper 8500 2 x 2gb (5-5-5-18 @ 2.1 stock settings)
PS: Corsair 620HX
GPU: EVGA GTX260 @ 730-1574-1150

Cooling: dtek fuzion v1, swiftech mcr320 w med speed yate loons, mcp355 w/ petras top

Here's 4.250 500 x 8.5

Tested with Intel Burn test 20/20 @ 100%
Tested With 3DM vantage 14,005
No prime blend yet, I'm not that patient
Max temp: 74c

Settings:

Cpu: 1.38750v
GTL: 0.650
GTL: 0.650
PLL: 1.52
FSB: 1.50
DDR: 2.10
NB: 1.40
NBGTL: 0.665
SB: 1.10
PCIE: 1.5

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/c...packstable.jpg

You know, for 24/7 you might wanna consider a lower FSB Termination (vtt) voltage. 1.5v 24/7 is gonna put your 45nm into an early grave. I would recommend to try and keep it under 1.4v for daily use.
02-09-2009, 07:59 AM
pascalbrown

My chip as stuck sensors too, and I can bench at 4.5GHz (with less than 1.5v cpu) on air so it's not exactly a duff chip. I considered sending it back but decided it wasn't worth the hassle. Once I start stress testing they all level out at the top, but 3 of them don't go under 40C. Luckily, one of them works all the way down to my idle which is about 27C.
02-09-2009, 08:06 AM
fox3

My first Q9650 was vid 1.25 bought back in Sept had no stuck sensors but the MB killed two of its cores. The one I replaced it with in Oct also has a vid 1.25 but it has two stuck sensors. It seems to clock ok see sig below. I am not sure the sensors are designed well but as long as it clocks ok I am fine with it.
02-09-2009, 09:40 AM
radaja

jor3lBR,awesome!that looks like a very fun board.i noticed that it has more ref voltage settings,does it help with the lower voltages maybe?keep us posted
02-09-2009, 07:12 PM
kill_a_wat

Looking forward to seeing a 4.6+Ghz stable Jor :cool:
02-09-2009, 07:39 PM
mreld3r

more ref settings,,,man, that should keep you busy for a while.
change one; reboot, test
then, do it again. remember the olden days,,couple of years ago.
It was increase the fsb till it wasnt stable anymore, then back off a couple of mhz and quit.
02-09-2009, 11:13 PM
kill_a_wat

And regarding the stuck sensor issue core 0 for me never goes below 38c the others are fine though. All the cores catch up to each other during load.

I overclocked another Q9650 a couple of days ago and there were 2 cores that were stuck from memory never falling below 37c. It overclocked well though hitting 490x9 Prime blend stable (overnight) on an X48 mobo
02-09-2009, 11:44 PM
CryptiK

Nice Jor, seems that board goes ok for a A2 rev. Pity is has better VRM for cpu/ram but only an A2 NB, I'd hazard a guess the UD3P will be better than it based on that and from results Ive seen on other forums.

mreld2r - there is only 2 cpu refs as opposed to one, its actually easier to set up. One is way too limiting, there should ideally be four, like on my M2F.
02-09-2009, 11:48 PM
radaja

i installed my new power supply and it seems i was able to lower some volts and still be stable.http://i44.tinypic.com/2hf048x.jpg http://i39.tinypic.com/20ru5fs.jpg
02-10-2009, 12:26 AM
WhiteFireDragon

Quote:

Originally Posted by radaja

i installed my new power supply and it seems i was able to lower some volts and still be stable.

and which PSU was that?
02-10-2009, 02:36 AM
sigi

Well I got mine a week ago it was in the old big box:
L824B277
09/17/08
one stuck sensor at 37

everything at stock 400x9 @3600 with 1.16 vcore prime stable so far will try more soon :)

does any one have this chip with asus rampage formula if so can you give me setting for 4GHz 24/7 to try :D
02-10-2009, 03:38 AM
radaja

WFDragon, its the one in my sig.i just never changed it til now.i was using an antec basiq 550w.which was good but i did notice while under load the 12v would drop from 12.14 to 11.49.with this new one ,at idle its 12.51 and under load it drops to 12.49.i think it is a little more stable and might be why i can now run lower volts on the vcore without errors.also this new one has a single 12v rail.the antec was 3 or 4 12v rails.
02-10-2009, 03:45 AM
Mickey Padge

Quote:

Originally Posted by sigi

Well I got mine a week ago it was in the old big box:
L824B277
09/17/08
one stuck sensor at 37

everything at stock 400x9 @3600 with 1.16 vcore prime stable so far will try more soon :)

does any one have this chip with asus rampage formula if so can you give me setting for 4GHz 24/7 to try :D

I have the exact same batch and pack date as you, still in the box though, I am waiting for some more parts :cool:

How does 450x9 handle? :)
02-10-2009, 04:43 AM
sigi

Quote:

I have the exact same batch and pack date as you, still in the box though, I am waiting for some more parts

How does 450x9 handle?

I tried at 450x9 with 1.25V set in bios which is for me around 1.21 real and it booted just fine :up: but then the Windows BSOD but it need a little tweaking i guess but it looks promising so far I don't want to overclock straight I will try to clock it more in a few days :)
02-10-2009, 07:31 AM
emertX

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mickey Padge

I have the exact same batch and pack date as you, still in the box though, I am waiting for some more parts :cool:

How does 450x9 handle? :)

Me too!

I got the 4GHz @ 1,232V || 4,2@1,31 maybe @1,29 || 4,3 @ 1,344...
Great Batch!
02-10-2009, 08:53 AM
Jor3lBR

Quote:

Originally Posted by andressergio

Congrats Jor !!!

That's a damn good lookin' setup :up::up:

Cheers
Sergio

Thank you my friend!

Quote:

Originally Posted by mreld3r

hey jor, i wanna see what that board can do. I 'almost' bought an open-box version of that board. But I wasn't sure of what it could do. I "know" that a ud3p could clock well, its already proven itself.
If anyone can clock an extreme board; YOU can do it.
I know that the extreme version has a lot better voltage reg. So theoretically it can really do great. I'm just not sure about the bios, and its updates. The ud3p seems to get a lot more updates. (even though; they dont seem to be working real good). :shrug:
I really like the Nb-cooling on that extreme; my ud3p gets very hot to the touch with high-fsb runs.

I'm still testing but it seams to be a very good board with low volts all around, I have to test the UD3P and this one further 2 days is nothing to compare them. :up:

Quote:

Originally Posted by radaja

jor3lBR,awesome!that looks like a very fun board.i noticed that it has more ref voltage settings,does it help with the lower voltages maybe?keep us posted

Thanks mate, yes it is a fun board but it needs a LCC mod that I'm going to do today. I noticed that too I needed less volts but I need to play with the UD3P with the new stuff Ilearned from this board to compare them :up:

Quote:

Originally Posted by CryptiK

Nice Jor, seems that board goes ok for a A2 rev. Pity is has better VRM for cpu/ram but only an A2 NB, I'd hazard a guess the UD3P will be better than it based on that and from results Ive seen on other forums.

Thank Cryptik! Well I like the A3 on the NB too bad the Extreme is A2 but it's not showing it's age. I like the Extreme cause it has no bugs at all (5:6 strap/mch ref voltage) only problem is that it needs a pot mod to reduce vdroop. I think this board can fly with the mod but again I need more time testing both to really compare.
02-10-2009, 08:58 AM
Jor3lBR

4905Mhz "Stable!" :-)

Quote:

Originally Posted by kill_a_wat

Looking forward to seeing a 4.6+Ghz stable Jor :cool:

Hey Kill_a_wat please take a look at my thread here:

4906Mhz Benching and Soft Stability tests:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=217439

I did it just for the fun on a Snow Day at work.

Could not Prime95 cause it always blow the poor $61 WC system away but I did 2 SuperPi32m runs, HyperPi 4 threads, 3Dmark01, 05 and 06, wPrime stability, played Crysis for 25min and ET Quake Wars.

It seamed to me very solid for day to day use and the temps on that cheap Domino where amazing.

But I'll get back to Prime95 when I get better cooling working!

:up::up::up:

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