Does anyone got 1:1 ratio using Corsair 8500C5D? The best I got is 2:3. Anyone can help??
C2D E6600 L629B @ 2.75 (1.4v)
P5W-DH Deluxe (1909 Bios)
Corsair 8500C5D 4-4-4-12 2.2v
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Does anyone got 1:1 ratio using Corsair 8500C5D? The best I got is 2:3. Anyone can help??
C2D E6600 L629B @ 2.75 (1.4v)
P5W-DH Deluxe (1909 Bios)
Corsair 8500C5D 4-4-4-12 2.2v
What have you got FSB and memory set at currently in your BIOS. 1:1 to me for example is setting FSB to 400 and running memory at DDR800. Post your current BIOS settings vrcore , MCH etc- you are hardly o/c your CPU. Its same batch as mine and they can normally clock a lot higher.Whats the rest of your setup PSU etc?
Surely he means 3.75Ghz in his sig as 1.4V for 2.75Ghz for a 29b is very very poor!!!!
I will be jealous if he is and on air!
Does anyone happens to have the datasheet for the PLL on this board (ics 954123) ?
Thanks.
Guys, below are my settings:
CPU Frequency: 306
DRAM Frequency: 912Mhz
Performance Mode: Standard
PCI Express Frequency: 100
PCI Clock Synchronization Mode: 33.33
Memory Voltage: 2.20V
CPU Vcore Voltage: 1.40V
FSB Termination: 1.4V
MCH Chipset Voltage: 1.55V
ICH Chipset Voltage: 1.20V
Timing: 4-4-4-12
Dram ECC Mode: Disabled
Hyper Path 3: Disabled
DRAM Throttling Threshold: Disabled
I would not like to overclock till extreme stage. My intention is to run my vCOre at around 3.00Ghz-3.20Ghz and memory at 900-1000Mhz. I tried many times, but failed to get to that stage. Anyone please help me.
Quick question... I've got trouble getting the eSata to hot-swap. Anyone else had this problem? What's the solution??
It'd be nice if I could get my vantec nextar3 enclosure to work as it should :3
Have you set the Jmicron JMB363 controller mode to AHCI in BIOS ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Flaming.Goat
I havent... When i installed windows it was set to IDE mode.. and I cant boot the machine (gets some BSOD while windows logo is up) if I put it into AHCI (didnt want to reinstall windows unless it was necessary)...
Also, while I'm here, you guys get problems with the Firewire controllers ?
The first time I installed windows the firewire was going haywire... I'd boot and it'd detect the controller.... but install it like 40+ times, which in turn would lead to a BSOD (driver stack overload or something of sorts)
I discovered that to fix this problem, I had to disconnect the front firewire cable, boot the machine, delete all the extra controller drivers, and then close the machine, plug the wire back in again... and boot, and everything'd be happy.
Odd thing though, these things only happened after installing any kind of infrared driver in it (once it was the remote that came w/.. the other time was another program, but was still using the same reciever)..
Hope I'm making sence!
Your boot drive ( the drive containing your windows installation ) is connected on the Jmicron controller ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Flaming.Goat
Where's your boot drive connected to ?
The Intel ICH7R ports ? ( SATA1/SATA3/SATA4 ) or on the Jmicron ( black SATA slot under the heatpipe next to the CPU socket ) ?
All 3 of my hdd's are WD Caviar 320gb SATA. one's in the nextar, the other 2, including the one with my windows installation, are on the intel ICH7R ports...
So, first off let me apologize for a small oversight, I can put only the jmicron into AHCI mode (this wasnt the case before... I flashed my bios just a few days ago.)
Problem remains... the drive doesnt hotswap, and while having the jmicron in AHCI mode, I loose all the IDE controllers... Both my dvd burners (samsung 18x PATA, 1 hooked up to the ICH7R IDE controller, the other in the jmicron one) are non-operational.
I take it you have checked the meory with memtest86 to check it is okay. Disable memory spead in Jumper free and virtulisastion in CPU configuration if you havent done so. Your CPU will easy do 3.0-3.2 probably on stock volts and your memory should certainly do 1000. Try FSB 333 and Memory at 999with looser timmings of 5,5,5,15. You can use memset to tighten once booted if it will let you. If it wont boot try it with SPD enabled. I posted a couple of references a few days ago to other posts about 4:5 and 2:3 memory settings. You can have problems with TRD=6 but normally only with high FSB.Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanyeo
So, you're using the ICH7R for your 2 internally connected HDDs, and you've installed windows with the ICH7R Controller Mode set to "IDE" ( @ IDE Configuration @ BIOS main page ). Ok then ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Flaming.Goat
And when you set ONLY the Jmicron ( under Onboard Devices ) controller mode to AHCI you lose BOTH ( ? ) Optical drives, even the one connected on the PATA Controlled by ICH7R ?
That's weird, and shouldn't happen at all.
Do the following:
Set Jmicron to IDE mode again, get into Windows, go to Device Manager, and uninstall the Jmicron controller.
Shutdown, and get into BIOS, and set the Jmicron to AHCI.
Boot into Windows, and install the Jmicron controller drivers again ( use the latest ones from Jmicron's website ).
Do you still lose the dvd-/+rw on the ICH7R ?
And last but not least, which BIOS version are you using ?
regards,
BZ
MY LATEST SETTING:Quote:
Originally Posted by sesdave
CPU Frequency: 333
DRAM Frequency: 1000Mhz
Performance Mode: Standard
PCI Express Frequency: 100
PCI Clock Synchronization Mode: 33.33
Memory Voltage: 2.20V
CPU Vcore Voltage: 1.40V
FSB Termination: AUTO
MCH Chipset Voltage: 1.55V
ICH Chipset Voltage: AUTO
Timing: 5-4-4-12
May I know which setting to disable the memory speed in Jumper Free configuration? By the way, I have got a ratio of 2:3 (CPUZ) from the above setting. How to tighten by using memtest to get 1:1 ratio? Anyone help please!!
Sorry - I meant disable memory remap in chipset in the BIOs. Why do you want 1:1.? Your memory is rated to 1066Mhz without overclocking. Your current 2:3 it utilising the memory properly and giving greater bandwidth. To run 1:1 at your current speed you would set memory to 666. This will reduce memory bandwidth and seriously underutilise it - you may be able to run tighter timings but what a waste. Unless you are upping the FSB past 400 to run 1:1 you may as well have bought some cheap 5300 memory. What you should be doing with that CPU and memory is get the FSB higher and use either a 2:3 or 4:5 ratio to get the most out of what you have got. You will need higher vcore and MCH as you up the FSB and memory speed to maintain the stability of the o/c Check your stablity woth Orthos and Superpi. Refer to 1 post on the thread for detail if you get keen to try overclocking higher.
Ok, BenchZowner, we're definately getting somewhere. Following your instructions, I've got the ODD running off the ICH IDE channel working again,, but this only happened after installing the jmicron driver... rather odd..
Furthermore, the ODD running off the jmicron IDE no longer works... to get the computer to even See the drive I have to go into device manager and tell it to scan for new hardware... drive gets detected... but works extremely unrelliably, lags the entire explorer especially in the mycomputer... and yeah, it uninstalls everytime I reboot! So for now no 2nd ODD.
The bright news however is that the vantec is hotswapping... There,s a 3sec. or so system freeze when powering it on, which I read somewhere else as Normal behaviour, the time that the SATA controller recognizes what's on the other end..
So if we can get that ODD to work now, it'd be really great... Cause yeah I could plug it as slave to the ICH IDE.. but the extra bandwith by using both controllers is phenominal, especially when I'm burning 2 DVD's simultaniously.
And, to answer your question, I updated the bios from version 13xx (forgot the number) to 1901.. As 1901 is the latest non-beta driver according to the asus website. :)
As ODD things keep on happening, do the following magic trick, switch the DVD-/+RW drives ( swap the drives, take the DVD burner off the ICH7R & connect it to the Jmicron IDE, and take the DVD burner off the Jmicron and connect it to the ICH7R IDE )
awaiting your news :)
As simplistic and might have worked kind of solution you proposed, it unfortunately didnt work.. Awaiting your next idea. I'm fresh out for now... Updated the drive's firmware but to no avail.
Sorry to ask again. Could you let me know exactly which setting to disable memory remap in chipset?(for example: Jumper Free Configuration - FSB Termination: 1.40V) I'm kind of new in o/c, sorry for all the inconvenience. How can I tighten the timing again?Quote:
Originally Posted by sesdave
My oh my don't I feel a bit silly... and alot more wise tonight!
As it turns out, running it in Basic mode was the key... the other key : the jmicron driver.
Seeing how I couldnt get the ODD to work, I took a stroll down the manual, many sites.. a few hours later anyways it struck me "hey, what if I put it back to basic and try with that new shiny driver?"
And guess what? It works, as advertised, now :)
Thanks for your helping hand, BenchZowner, you did put me on the right track in the end :)
Hello Everyone,
Another new guy to the forums with similar questions to every other new guy.
Hopefully you guys can give me some pointers, although I think I have checked my system over pretty good.
I'm having a hard time overclocking my system. As you can see, I can only really hit 3.0 GHz. Beyond that things go south. Here is what I have done:
B2 stepping if it matters.
FSB voltage 1.4
MCH voltage 1.75
Mem voltage 2.2
ICH voltage 1.4??
I have tested the memory using the 3.0 GHz CPU setting and they hold to 900MHz. Fair enough for 800 MHZ memory. I have not tried higher yet, but at least I wanted to confirm my problem is not in the memory.
I have also tried the 1901 and 2004 bios's and can confirm that the 1707 allows for a little more CPU overclocking than those two. I can squeeze 3.15 but felt I should drop back a step for security. In the 1901-2004 bios's I can do a 333FSB but any higher and the system dies. With 1707 I can get a FSB of around 360 before things die. Just a word of strangeness in reversing the bios. When I renamed the 1707 bios P5WDH.ROM, it would not flash using small caps, but did flash using upper case script. Strange as there should be no diff. Anyhow, it can be done in case anyone is asking. I suspect the differences are in where the strapping is set.
So far my temperatures seem to be in the low 40's (C) while pushed so I don't think there is an issue there. I don't seem to be having any issues with my cd rom's or DVD rom/writers (I have 2 of them, LG and Pioneer). I did upgrade the firmware in both of them though. The Pioneer really needed it as it had poor writes on different media.
I see that a bunch of you have increased the CPU voltage to 1.5v. When did you have to bump the voltage that high? When you crossed the 333 boundary? It was scary how particular the system was back on the 1901-2004 bios's when I crossed from 333 to 335.
I would have thought I should be able to hit higher numbers than I am.
Also, one other note. I was over on the OCZ memory forum where the discussion came up on whether it was worth setting the memory above the 1:1 ratio. IE my system clocks to a FSB of 333 and that sets the memory at 667. I ran tests there and the same tests with increasing the memory to a speed of 800. The argument was that there would be no value to setting the memory at higher rates because the CPU could only process the data to a maximum of double the processor speed. In any case my 3Dmark scores on the first run was something like 6200 while the second run was closer to 6700. Enough of a difference that it was worth doing.
Comments?
#1, unless you have a certain few types of ram that will do it, you must use SPD over 360 fsb or so.
#1a, having 4 sticks of memory will limit your overclock a bit.
#2, From my experience if you put too much voltage into you chipset things get a little flaky.
These are my settings for 3.2ghz, try them and then tweak as needed.
Jumper Free Page
Cpu 400fsb
DDR2 800
Perf Auto
PCIe Auto
PCI Auto
Mem 2.1 (Whatever you mem is rated at max)
Cpu 1.3875
Fsb 1.4
Mch 1.55
Ich Auto
Cpu Config Page
Modify Mulit Enable
Multi 8
Microcode Enabled
Max Cpuid Disabled
Execute Disbale Disabled
C1e Disabled
Thermal Control Auto
Virtualization Enabled
Speedstep Disabled
Chipset Page
SPD Enabled
Ecc Disabled
Hyperpath Disabled
Dram throttle Disabled
I dunno about MCH voltage, it's kinda weird for me... used to be fine with mch 1.65v @ 400fsb but after overclocking to 425fsb @ 1.75v mch for a few hours with a subsequent crash I need 1.75v mch to run 400fsb (425 no longer works :( )
AHolland, I'd suggest looking into NB/SB cooling mod, which involves taking off the stock heatsinks and replacing factory thermal compound (dry stuff) with AS5 or something like that. After doing that I was able to hit 400fsb successfully. More details in this thread http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=106563
Anyone using Kentsfield with P5W DH?
this board tops out around 4780fsb at 9x multi ... also 1.7v set in bios = 1.62v load is a bit low ...
care to clarify? that fsb seems a bit steep. :-)
BIOS advanced/chpset/memory remap feature=disable. If you want to tighten timings you can go 1 of 2 ways - do it in the bios and see if it boots then run superpi to check followed by Orthos or use memset which will allow u to change settings in windows. Using memset you can test your settings without having to reboot each time although not cas setting - tends to crash the system!. Once proven you can change in the bios or setup memset to change on entering windows. Memset offers you more settings to play with than the BIOS but you need to know what you are doing. Tighter timings usually need more volts to stablise if you are o/c the memory - just watch you dont give it too much volts 2.2 -2.4v is max for most.Search what others have used for settings and o/c with your memory. Before you wander into unknown territory check first post on this thread - Read this guide http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardw...ict197995.html Get some AS5 and decent cooling and away you go.Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanyeo
Sending poor newb away already? :stick: :DQuote:
Originally Posted by sesdave
theteamaqua, we need more cow bell! :D Seriously what you are talking about? How to hell do you hit 478fsb? and is that vcore or mch volts you mentioned?
Lol! he will have fun as he learns by trial and error!. You might find this memory arcticle interesting http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mem...ory-guide.html.Looks like a suicide shot and vcore.
Hi Crazyea,
I sort of wonder about the SPD idea. If you run via SPD, CPU-z just shows looser memory timings than suggested by OCZ. Yes, I may have to loosen the memory timings to get higher. Particularily by running two sets of memory. Otherwise, a person should be able to run the same settings manually as what SPD would give you. Does anyone know if the SPD settings affect any other memory items outside of timings?
I also noticed that some of you have moved from the 9x266 to 8x266 and then ramp up the FSB to 400 or whatever. Has anyone run any tests to see if a system is better off using the 8x multiplier and a faster FSB versus the 9x multiplier and lower FSB settings? Something I may try later. I did send a message to the lawyer person on the front page. On another forum I was told that there was no use having a memory setting higher than double the FSB, ie 333 FSB relates to 666 in memory. I did run some tests changing nothing but the memory speed from 666 up to the 900 my memory will support. The argument being that the CPU can only handle the double data rate and no higher. From my tests, the higher memory settings do indeed result in a faster computer tothe tune of 6%. 6300 versus 6700, if memory serves me right. I agree there should be no reason for this faster result, but ther it was.
I am pretty sick today so I won't get to trying out any of the things you guys suggested. I do have a fair bit of AS5 on hand, so I can try using it on the SB chipset. I already have it on the CPU and NB. Has anyone permanently removed the fancy covers over the NB/SB chipsets to see if that relates to any better cooling? It probagly does, but only to the tune of 1-2 degrees.
I'll get back at you guys in a day or two. Thanks.
Having to use SPD is a limitation of the chipset not your memory.
So I have had my board for a while, and was looking to push it further. First page of this thread says you can fit an nb-1c on this board and I have one laying around but cant for the life of me figure out how to go about mounting it. Could some post a pick if they have one installed or fix the thread if they cant be installed.
Thanks
Barrman
Anzial posted the pictorial guide to the NB?SB mod a couple back and yes you do pull off the covers. I have done it and stuck a 40mm fan on the NB/SB - it should reduce more like 5-10c.Quote:
Originally Posted by AHolland
hiho :)
i'm looking for a bit of help maybe because i'm frustratingly stuck at 3954.22 MHz and cant seem to hit 4GHz :(
hopefully this can give most info: http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=184077
(ram is actually 6400, is it showing 5300 because of the divider?)
adding more volts to the cpu and ram doesn't seem to make any difference at all.
timings are set to SPD.
chipset is 1.65 (max)
even putting up the fsb by 1, will result in a failed boot :*(
any ideas guys?
haha lol i bought one of the 1st nbatches availible at newegg .. like June or May last year .. and it died about 1 month later ... and about 2 weeks ago i found the CPU cap .. so i was able to rma it... and now i got the 1.04G rev hahah what a wonderful story
anyhow how is 1.04G different than 1.03??
btw with TEC i cant seem to boot past 470fsb x 9 with 1.7v set in bios ... which i was able to do with P5N32E SLI PLUS and it was benchable actually
As its more than likely MCH volts holding you back on that revision of board you could try this pencil mod (and the rest if you needs them) to get more volts for MCH http://sg.vr-zone.com/?i=3876Quote:
Originally Posted by sb85
Have you tried different multipliers ? Mine clocks better at 9 and 10 then 11.Quote:
Originally Posted by sb85
Beside that - you should realy try to find a board with mch 1,85.
Just ordered 4GB Ballistix 667 :eek: such a good deal on them just couldn't resist. Hopefully they'll clock good and boot manual timings - fingers crossed.
2 x 2gb?
Nah, way too expensive for my range, 4x1GB runs well on this board from my experience anyway :)
Hi Crazyea,
I'm basically responding to you because you were the first to respond to my inquiry. Thanks.
The point I was using regarding setting the SPD or not; The SPD is a chip onboard each memory stick that lists the factory default memory timing settings. Factories traditionally set the SPD more conservatively than what the memory will really do, or are rated for. The motherboard then has a nice safe starting point to go from. My argument is that the more intelligent users, like ourselves can ignore the SPD and manually alter the timing specs, something a lot of people do not want to do. If you have found that you need to run SPD to get to a faster setting, than that is because the SPD setting is making the memory timings looser which traditionally makes your machine slower but more stable. I have used the factory settings of 4-4-5-15, or lossened them to 5-5-5-15. The SPD settings are something like 6-6-6-18 (as per what CPU-Z gave me).
With my testing so far, I have found that the SPD settings in no way make my machine more stable. That does'nt make sense to me as the looser timings should make my machine more stable. All my testing seems to indicate that my memory is not my issue. The funny thing is that it does'nt seem to be the CPU either. Here's where it get weird.
I can run my memory up to 900MHz at timings of 4-4-5-15 as long as I don't use the 1:1 setting. If I do, the memory craps out at about the mid 700's. If I use a different divider than I can get much higher...yes weird.
I can also leave my memory at really low settings and run the CPU up higher than the current 333 FSB. What I can't do is run the processor above 3.0 GHz and the memory above 667 FSB. If it's not in the memory and not in the processor than what the heck can it be.
Another question for a few of you. I am using Orthos to pound the memory and CPU. I can set it to hit only the CPU, or the blend test. Can some of you point me to any software that may help me test my system better. I currently use Orthos (as said), Speedfan to watch temps and CPU-Z. What is the program that allows me to slowly raise the FSB while in windows?
I checked out the article on the pencil mod. I work in electronics and I still am unsure what they mean by the "pencil mod". I'm probably missing something obvious. In any event I doubt I would want to change out the resistors for different values, or installing a potentiometer for better accuracy. I can already get an MCH of 1.85 via the bios. I've ramped up most of my bios voltage settings and my system still seems really reluctant to play nice above the 333FSB level. Once I get past there, all reasonable expectations go out the window. A real pity when others are hitting so much higher. I've done all the AS5 on all the different SB/NB/CPU with no luck. It's always possible I have a dog of a cpu but I still would like to believe there is something I am missing.
It is a known issue that to achieve higher fsb on the 975x chipset that in some case SPD must be enabled. I have a similar memory to you and this was the case for me.
Anyway, try two sticks of memory, this might be holding you back.
Also, have you tried the settings I listed in a previous post?
Hi all, thanks for a great thread - just finished reading it. Just one thing that interests me that I'm not quite clear on regarding bios's later than 1602 locking the extreme chips - are those later bios's limiting the upwards multiplier to 10X, or is it 11X? For instance, I am currently on bios 1707 ( with E6600), but hypothetically, if I got say a QX6700 or X6800, and I know that my board will run currently at 410 fsb, with either of those chips, can I run 10X410, or 11X410? Or is the upward multiplier completely locked so with 1707, I would be limited to 9X410?
Question 2 - is anyone here using a Lightspeed phase unit to chill their cpu on the P5WDH? If so, how is the fit of the clamshell to the board? Does it clear the capacitors ok? Or will I need to modify something?
Regarding the speculation by some of you about degradation of the cpu/mobo, I concur with that theory as well, as 6 months ago was stable @ 3.6Ghz & 1.6vcore, but now need 1.625 vcore for the same stability, so I guess I've slightly bbq'd the cpu with too much vcore, stresstest, & heat. When I say too much heat, the most I've taken it to is 75C coretemp with dual Prime 95, but on average, the stresstest runs up to high 60's , when it hits 70C now , I stop the test.
It harder to overclock with 4 sticks of memory - they put a greater load on the memory controller and the motherboard and that will limit the overclock moreso than 1 pair. Most advice has been given from people with 1 pair who like me assume it will work as well. Have you checked all the memory out stick by stick with memtest86. I would start with 1 pair and see how high you can take fsb 1:1 with memory. Also disable virtulisastion and memory remap - if you dont use it disable it!.i Dont forget to puit a 40mm fan on the NB - big difference! Pencil mod was for someone with an early revision of the board where it only has 1.65 on MCH. You could try clockgen for uping FSB in windows.Quote:
Originally Posted by AHolland
Non Beta Bios 2004 was released today
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so.../P5WDH2004.zip
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so...20DH%20Deluxe/
The beta version of 2004 didn't work all that well for me, so I'm gonna let you guys try it out first before I jump on it. Please let us know your results and if there are any changes like more memory sub-timings.
Same here. With four memory sticks and SPD enabled, my machine keep crashing randomly. Also tried to boost vMCH and/or vMEM but no luck (now vMCH is configured as AUTO, vMEM as 2.1v and no problem whatsoever). But, unfortunately, this compromise my previous E6600@3.5GHz (9 x 390) and the best I can get now is 8 x 400 allowing me me to run my memory 1:1, which looks better for me. Also, tried to run the same four memory sticks as 3-3-3-10 but the machine even boot.
Quote:
Originally Posted by AHolland
X6700 would be unlocked between 6-10 and the X6800 would be unlocked between 6-11 but not higher than that unless 1601 bios or lower.Quote:
Originally Posted by nifty
So did anyone check the non-beta 2004 bios yet? Or is it just the beta bios renamed?
Its the finalized version of the BIOS. Didn-t tried it out yetQuote:
Originally Posted by miochza
Pretty sure it's identical. 2004 was always only on ftp, now they have just updated the site to show 2004 but nothing new.
fc /b says "FC: no differences encountered". Same binary.
Thought so :)
Hi Lawry, thanks for clarifying that for me:)
AJC Diff v1.90 File Compare Tool
- beta2004.rom *Dated: 03/07/2007
- P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-2004.ROM *Dated: 03/07/2007
"no differences found"
try comparing 1901 with 2004.
Changes:
version number change
other changes : none :D
typical asus
Hello everyone. It's very nice to see such a great thread and so many good advices. Unfortunatelly for me, none of them helped. I have a P5W DH Deluxe, one of the early revisions (with max 1.65V mCH), and i have big big trouble with running memory even at 800Mhz. At first i've started with an E6600 which goes at 3.33Ghz 100% stable with 1.425V, and Corsair TWIN2X2048-6400C4 2048 MB DDR2 / 800 MHz / 4-4-4-12. Unfortunatelly, whatever i tried, those memory sticks couldn't go to anything else but 740Mhz in 4-4-4-12, even at 2.2V. I've tried with changing the ratio to the CPU, so i should be sure it's not the CPU's fault. The memory was a no go. Then, i started mounting some FAN's over the southbridge and northbridge, removed silly Asus paste with Arctic Silver 5, then tried again. No changes. Then, these days, i've decided to change the memory. I bought OCZ DDR2 PC2-8000 Titanium Alpha VX2, wich should go to 4-4-4-15 at 2.3V even in 1000Mhz. Well, with this RAM (2*1024), my sistem doesn't even boot at 920Mhz, everything else over 800Mhz just crashes instantly in Prime. So i am now sticked again to 370Mhz.
I don't know what else to do. I would like to go and change the motherboard, but unfortunatelly, i've done changes to the motherboard that ruins my warranty (those vents on chipsets).. Please, let me know what would be the next step i should do... or what would you do in my shoes. Thx in advance, and have a nice day !
I have Corsair xms and have no ptoblems 1:1 at 400fsb but I do have later rev board. . Look at first post on this thread for settings advice - some people hit a wall at 370 FSB. Try boot with SPD settings and then use memset to tighen your timings. Disable anything your not using in the BIOS - memory should only need stock volts if you are not o/c it. I aslo recently posted a pencil mod if you want to up MCH volts. Make sure your CPU is getting enough juice - try it at 1.45. I need 1.5 for 400FSB and a lot of ther CPUs need more.
Ho MonkY,
Your problem "feels" similar to mine in that certain settings that should work, do not. I can ramp up my memory to 900MHz from 800 and it's all stable. Then if I ramp up my CPU past 3.0 GHz, with any memory setting, including 667 MHz, it shows a memory error.
Perhaps someone more knowledgeable can help interpret what I am getting from ORTHOS. If I run just the CPU stress test, I can hit higher CPU values. My problem comes when I run the blended test. Under the blend test I can ramp up my memory past 900 as long as my cpu is at 3.0 GHz or less. As soon as I move the CPU FSB from 333 to say 340 it crashes and burns. Soemthing to the effect of "rounding error of 0.5, expecting error of 0.4", or something like that. I have tried a FSB of 350, 360, 370 just to see if anything would work at those levels. I'm retesting using a cpu voltage of 1.5 to see if that helps, but so far, no go. I'm going to also re-run the tests using "Crazyea"'s settings. Those settings are generally lower in most voltages to the chipsets. Everything is worth testing if other people are finding success with those settings.
From where I sit, the fact that the memory can be run quite a bit higher than what it is rated at, so it is not the memory causing my problem. Can anyone say with some confidence what my error shows? I could type it word for word if necessary, although I suspect my error type is fairly common.
Another quick question: What is a resonable temperature ceiling to use for the E6600. Someone somewhere suggested that the idle to full load temp diff should not be more than 26C....So in my case, my idle temp is 35C and my full load temp is 45C so my delta or difference is only 10C. I Could run as hot as 35 + 26 = 61C (gee mom, I did remember that math stuff after all). 61C sounds low from what I would expect. I would think something closer to 75C but I have not gone to the Intel web site to suck out the specification.
:eek: I got two kits of awesome ballistix it seems.. :D they do like 1000 4-4-3-4 with 2.3v easily but my dam chipset can't handle ddr2-1000 :( memtest will run without errors then just freeze due to bloody 975x...
At the moment I'm at 860mhz 4-4-4-4 2.00v 4x1GB, anyone got any tips for stabilising at ddr2-1000? I'm trying to get 333fsb 2:3 stable but mch 1.65v doesn't help from auto, nor does vfsb. God, just want to get a DFI 965 dark now.. :slobber:
Turn off HyperPath 3.Quote:
Originally Posted by lawrywild
Was that a joke? :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by GFORCE100
Prompted by GFORCE100, tried x9 multi at FSB of 333, 330, etc.
- memory set at 1000, 1100 etc.
- XP SP2 booted successfully, but fails various memory and loading tests
- NB temp: 105f/40.5c MEM temp: 90.5f/32.5c, measured with Fluke Mini62 IR thermometer
- picture is of multi: x9, FSB: 333 attempt....
So it's back to multi: x10 @ 300 FSB, memory @ 1000/500, 3:5 for me
lawrywild,
- ever figure out what was causing your DL burn problem?
No it's no joke. I've been running the Ballistix you have for months now at 1000MHz speeds at 4-4-4-4 now and you need HyperPath disabled if it's to be stable. I always keep it at 2.4V too. 4-4-3-4 will give you memtest errors sooner or later but 4-4-4-4 is stable.Quote:
Originally Posted by lawrywild
Seen, butQuote:
Originally Posted by GFORCE100
FSB Wall at low fsb around 300 - Disable Hyperpath 3 in the Chipset section of the bios. [Credit - lawrywild]
haven't used Hyperpath 3 since the day I received this board.
@bichi:
Nope, and don't want to waste anymore discs... :nono:
edit: @ gforce again: do you have a fan over your sticks @ 2.40v? and what timing is your Write Latency Time at? 4-4-4-4-x
So you did turn off EIST didn't you? Did you give the northbridge 1.65V in the BIOS (not always necessary)?Quote:
Originally Posted by bichi
You may have not used it but if it's set to AUTO then that's your problem, it should be DISABLED.Quote:
Originally Posted by lawrywild
GFORCE100,
- Duh! - EIST/C1E = off
- and just for that, Hyperpath = off too, (double DUH) - LOL!
- didn't try increasing NBvdc since summer is around the corner here...
- increase in memory performance was about 2%, so rather than risk heat, I'm opting for higher multi and slower FSB...
- was a bit of fun trying, though....
Hi Bichi (thought it was Lawrywild but I was wrong),
What is that temp program you are running. It looks cool. I also noticed that it showed hard drive temps as well. I have a program called speedfan. It gives some good info, but not enough for my testing.
As a side note, does anyone know what acceptable HD temps are? I know that HD failures are closely linked to temps. My case (P180) allows me to separate my HD and MB from each other. I then run a fan through the hard drives (4 of them), and then through the power supply and out. I cannot make any changes to the power supply fan, but there is an inline fan that I can ramp up. I don't like to run allo my fans as fast as they can because I do some sound recording and you can hear the computer in the background if the fans are turned up. Basically I like quiet.
It's all a balance, fans, sound, temperatures etc.
I guess what I'm trying to say is it is NOT hyperpath 3. Trust me on that. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by GFORCE100
Hi, did you actually mean me or Bichi?Quote:
Originally Posted by AHolland
Bichi is using Motherboard Monitor 5 if you meant him. If you did mean me, what image are you referring to?
Today i wanted to try my E6700 in P5W DH , rev 1.04g, but after the power on i received the beeps : biiiip ( long ) pause bip-bip-bip.
The system booted up fine ( i see from the keyboard ), but no signal on monitor.
I tried with 3 kits of rams ( with a single dims too ), with 2 vga`s ( 8800gtx, 7900gt ), vga in another PCI-E slot, but nothing :(.
Now ~week when the board makes this "beeps", after i put one of 8000UL dims in the firs black ram slot, the system stared up fine, but now this method with single DIM doesnt helped me :(.
Any suggestions?
PS : Sorry for my english, i hope you will understand. :D
guess AHolland needs new glasses, after staring at his BIOS settings for hours - LOL!
Linkage to MBM and required Core plugin and setup instructions:
http://www.thetechrepository.com/sho...rboard+monitor
@M3kk: Have you got a POST code analyzer card?
Yes, I finally got directed to MM5. Thanks Guys.
Yes you do g odizzy from going back and forth in the bios trying to figure out how a system can be perfectly stable at a FSB of 333 and then die at 335. I was expecting a bit of a transition between totally stable and quite unstable. I still think I've missed something, particularily because I am also getting low overclockability...3.0 Ghz. I tried ramping the vcore from stock to 1.55 with no apparent difference. I also have dropped some of the other voltages to see where they affect stability. So far they look like they will be close to stock. It all takes a lot of time.
No :(.Quote:
Originally Posted by lawrywild
aholland, it might be possible that your cpu just can't oc beyond 3ghz :)
What bios are you running? I've been having similar problems since I flashed to 1901. For me, leaving the system with the PSU switched off over night usally fixes it. It's extremely annoying though!Quote:
Originally Posted by M3kk
Does anyone know where I can find the 170X bios? I can't see it on Asus' website.
Edit: Woops, sorry. I need to get some glasses, it seems :P
2004
Have you tried any earlier bioses? I'm gonna try going back to 1707 now, as the problem seemed to appear after I flashed to 1901.Quote:
Originally Posted by M3kk
maybe been asked before and i have searched and cant find it but how would i get a 1:1 divider for a overclock ? spec are as sig and i only wish to oc a little bit ive tried 300x8 and ram gets a 3:4 i think it was and then i tried 333x8 and got a different divider so how would i get a 1:1 with a 333x8 oc ? so take my 2.13 to a 2.6 thanks
1:1 divider will be DRAM Frequency = 2x FSB
So 667mhz if at 333fsb.
thank you :woot: but now during boot up my ram says its 5300 not the usal 6400 so i take it i cant get a 1:1 with ram stayin at 6400 ? thanksQuote:
Originally Posted by lawrywild
Try using the 4:5 memory divider so where it says mem speed is 667 change it so it says 833 your memory should handle the little overclock no problemQuote:
Originally Posted by TR1GG3R
yea that was the other divider i got b4 but i thought 1:1 was better thats why i was aiming for it
lol, 1:1 means the DRAM frequency is twice the fsb. You can't have DDR2-800 with 1:1 unless using 400Mhz FSB. You need 4:5 at 333 FSB to hit 833 Mhz ramQuote:
Originally Posted by TR1GG3R
:shrug: new to oc'n but yea thanks for the help will run it at the 4:5 :)
hi, what is the best bios version to overclock an e6600 with?
Interesting....
http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthre...eadid=33889730
I wonder if Asus will impliment it...
ChrisC
Have you read any of the recent post on this thread? The latest BIOS is 2004 but depending on what you have and what setting u use its whatever works best for u with your setup as there does not appear to be a lot of difference from 1602-2004. Check the post for peoples different opinions and take your pick. Me - I like 1707 as its never caused me any issues and I get a good stable o.c.Quote:
Originally Posted by icrunk
Will /probably be in the next BIOS update. Should be soon, G-0 stepping is on its way :)Quote:
Originally Posted by cuke2u
NONE!!!...............there is no BEST BIOS!!!..............read this thread from start to finish :rolleyes:Quote:
hi, what is the best bios version to overclock an e6600 with?
Hi All,
I just installed the Win XP on my new P5W DH on a SATA HD connected to SATA 3 (Black). A really annoying thing is that everytime it boots up, a message showing:
"NO IDE Master HDD Detected" and I have to press F1 to continue.
Do anyone know how to fix this? I can boot up fine but it's just very nagging. I searched everywhere and couldn't find a solution. Probably plugging the drive to SATA 1(Red) will fix it but my HR-05 totally blocked it:(
Thanks!
RTM, put the drive on the port indicated as boot in the manual. (Sata 1 = boot disk) page 2-34.
EDIT: you did answer your own question.
In the bios under boot/boot configuration, disable the press F1 in case of error.Quote:
Originally Posted by imgeorgelin
Hope this helps
Hello !
I'm Spanish, sorry by my bad english.
Nowadays, I have a ASUS P5W DH Deluxe with 2Gb GSKILL PK's, but the problem is that this motheboard don't detect very well the timmings of this memory and I "only" can do 410*8 = 3280 Mhz.
I would like to do 430 or 435*8 and I think this Motheboard can do this because if I put the memory with a divider I hit this frequency without any problems.
Do you know what memories can do it without problems ?
Thank you very much
Thanks! I did know about this solution but it is said to suppress all the other might-be-useful alerts in case of an error too. But I guess I've got to do it if there's no better way.
Quote:
Originally Posted by david256
On the side note, what the hell should be done to let drives be recognized as "2nd/3rd/4th" IDE MASTER? Any jumper setting will do? It seems that anything connected to the SATA 3/4 will be recognized as SLAVE (don't know about SATA 1, EZbackup and JMicron one)
Hi,
Can anyone send me a voltage.ini file from MBM and some screens from MBM voltage settings? My MBM shows sick +5V voltage and V-core. My mail: xxwolf@poczta.onet.pl
i have the same problem. i have my raid 0 raptors connected to the ez raid ports. my other 2 devices are in the black ports. whether i change them around or not about 80% of the time my system boots i get this message. if i hit f1 to continue it goes nowhere cause this only happens when it doesn't properly detect 4th ide master. 4 ide master is of course the raid 0 drive. i just hit reset until it sees it and then it loads windows no sweat. i basically can't oc right now cause it's too much of a pain in the ass when 80% of my boot ups error and require an additional reboot anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by imgeorgelin
anybody else havin problems with the official 2004 bios ? i cant seem to overclock no more says something about winload in the system32 (vista business) folder has a miss match checksum but if i revert back to bios/defaults it works no problems i even tryed going back to the beta 2004 but still the same any suggestions ?