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09-27-2004, 08:15 AM
eva2000

Quote:

Originally Posted by ugp

Put your chipset back at v1.6, From my testing and what I am reading the board will sometimes not work with an overclock at higher voltage ratings. Put your CPU at v1.55 and that is fine as well if you haven't already done so. Although you do have a NC right? And it doesn't ever hang on my IDE drive detecting. It just sometimes shows the "Detecting Array".

nah no probs with vdd at 1.7-1.8v for me

check this out

@ 265mhz 3-3-2-8 at 2.8v with chipset = 1.6v
@ 270mhz 3-3-2-8 at 3.0v with chipset = 1.7v
@ 275mhz 3-3-2-8 at 3.1v with chipset = 1.7v
@ 280mhz 3-3-2-8 at 3.32v with chipset = 1.8v
@ 285mhz 3-3-2-8 at 3.43v with chipset = 1.8v

Holy crap look at this

AMD64 3400+ @ 9x 285 = 2565mhz at 1.525 + 10% vcore
DFI Lanparty UT NF3-250Gb 14/09/04 bios
1x 512MB OCZ PC3700EB @ 285mhz 3-3-2-8 1T at 3.43v via OCZ DDR Booster
120GB WD 1200JB
550W Antec TrueControl PSU

http://www.fileshosts.com/AMD/DFI/60...8_DS2/cpuz.jpg

Sandra 2004 PRO SP2b
Buffered = 4413 / 4412
Unbuffered = 2591 / 2659

Hexus Pifast = 47.94s

SuperPi
1M = 34s
2M = 1min 18s
09-27-2004, 12:02 PM
Klisp

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Is there anyway i could improve on this so i could get a better benchmark scores? i'm scoring 30,155 in 3Dmark01, 74,000 in aquamark and 14,300 in 3Dmark03. Shouldn't i be getting more with these settings? The X800 is clocked at 594\579 stable. Here are some pics of the scores i'm getting:
09-27-2004, 12:43 PM
G H Z

Eva,

Can't you get that voltage without the booster and the Beta BIOS?
09-27-2004, 03:06 PM
bldegle2

only if you volt mod

"Can't you get that voltage without the booster and the Beta BIOS?"

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

the PS on the 3.3 line. i have mine @3.6 via the internal pot (Sparkle 400w PS, pot will not adjust it any higher), gives me around 3.44/3.45 vdimm max with the beta bios.

if you want more, then a 3.3 line vr is needed to boost it even further, that, or run with the OCZ ram booster. i am having problems when i try to use my OCZ ram booster, it will increase the vdimm to whatever i want, but then it will not boot, set the dial to the lowest setting, bootage.

go figure, gotta find out if using a different vdimm slot will make a difference with the booster operation.

baldy :D
09-27-2004, 03:17 PM
G H Z

Thnx Baldy,

Finally got an answer on this:D How does your LII do @ that voltage on this board?

I think several people have only had success with one dimm running and the booster. Have you tried that yet?

I wonder what would happen if you had 3.45 coming via BIOS/PS mod, then added the booster.........4.5v here we come;)
09-27-2004, 04:45 PM
Dissolved

Quote:

Originally Posted by bldegle2

"Can't you get that voltage without the booster and the Beta BIOS?"

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

the PS on the 3.3 line. i have mine @3.6 via the internal pot (Sparkle 400w PS, pot will not adjust it any higher), gives me around 3.44/3.45 vdimm max with the beta bios.

if you want more, then a 3.3 line vr is needed to boost it even further, that, or run with the OCZ ram booster. i am having problems when i try to use my OCZ ram booster, it will increase the vdimm to whatever i want, but then it will not boot, set the dial to the lowest setting, bootage.

go figure, gotta find out if using a different vdimm slot will make a difference with the booster operation.

baldy :D

i think if you set the ocz booster over 3.6v it wont boot.
09-27-2004, 08:01 PM
eva2000

Quote:

Originally Posted by G H Z

Eva,

Can't you get that voltage without the booster and the Beta BIOS?

yeah i could but my 3.3v rail needs 0.24v above what vdimm is needed so 3.43v i need to set 3.3v rail to 3.67v.. anything more than 3.55v on 3.3v rail i'm uncomfortable with hehe
09-27-2004, 09:50 PM
AllBrain

I got my board last night. It is working like a charm and I have been able to get better overclocks all-round. I then flashed my bios with the new 9/12 beta. It is still 100% stable, but now my temps are way off. Any idea why? You are looking at a 10 degree difference between the stock bios and the beta bios. :(
09-27-2004, 10:15 PM
TinTin

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllBrain

I got my board last night. It is working like a charm and I have been able to get better overclocks all-round. I then flashed my bios with the new 9/12 beta. It is still 100% stable, but now my temps are way off. Any idea why? You are looking at a 10 degree difference between the stock bios and the beta bios. :(

Yes, the temperature is offset. Because some CPUs are reported with unexpected high temperature, most probably, Newcastle core. And when the temperature is detected to be too high, the performance will drop accordingly, I think it is CPU throttling. In the first BIOS (27/8/2004), if you disable the CPU throttling, the system will not boot, but it is fixed by the 912/914 BIOS already. So the BETA BIOS offsets the temperature to prevent this from happening. :D
09-27-2004, 10:21 PM
AllBrain

Thanks for the info TinTin. That is all and well, but sometimes my cpu temp will jump under load, to what I would expect. This makes reading your temp very difficult. The result is me not being able to use over 1.8 volts on my cpu. I never know when the temp is to high. Will there be a fix for this sometime in the future?
09-27-2004, 10:33 PM
TinTin

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllBrain

Thanks for the info TinTin. That is all and well, but sometimes my cpu temp will jump under load, to what I would expect. This makes reading your temp very difficult. The result is me not being able to use over 1.8 volts on my cpu. I never know when the temp is to high. Will there be a fix for this sometime in the future?

The temperature jumps drammatically under loads, I have a 3400+ NC too. It is difficult to monitor the temperature right now. With a clawhammer, it is now reported as 33deg.C, watercooled, room temperature 30deg.C. I also want a FIX for this issue instead of just a offset. DFI has known this issue already, hoping that the coming official BIOS will fix it. :)
09-28-2004, 02:09 AM
Mrki

hi

first only my english is not very good :(

i have became my board yesterday and i testing a lot but in superpi 1M i have very bad results ... for 10x260 2.5-2-2-6 and 1T i have only 35sec.
I think i must have more or its this ok?

greetz
http://mitglied.lycos.de/siedl/10x260.jpg
09-28-2004, 02:33 AM
chickenrun

Hi Mrki,

welcome to another harwareluxx member :)
09-28-2004, 02:37 AM
chickenrun

Quote:

Originally Posted by TinTin

The temperature jumps drammatically under loads, I have a 3400+ NC too. It is difficult to monitor the temperature right now. With a clawhammer, it is now reported as 33deg.C, watercooled, room temperature 30deg.C. I also want a FIX for this issue instead of just a offset. DFI has known this issue already, hoping that the coming official BIOS will fix it. :)

Mine is way off too - 3200 Clawhammer, all sys temps are around 30, CPU is now reported as 24-26 aircooled :rolleyes: There is even no noticeable increase in case I run it with stock voltage or at 1.8v...

Btw, why would the temps be lowered by the beta bios to avoid thermal throttling if you can now disable it completely and boot anyway ???? Makes no sense to me...
09-28-2004, 02:38 AM
Perc

@Mrki

i agree your 1M scores look a tad bit low? i would of expected a beter score at 2600mhz 260HTT 1:1 then what your getting. im sure there are a few people in here that can tell you how to make the score get beter. other then that man "wow" thats a nice oc. you do that on air or you using xtreme cooling?

peace perc,
09-28-2004, 02:45 AM
Kinsy

Has anyone killed theirs yet? Because mine appears dead.

Look here
09-28-2004, 02:57 AM
Sheik

Got mine on Friday. Put in in Mach2 last night. On first boot BIOS report temp as -7'C, but Smartguardian as 243'C :rolleyes: With first overclock my CPU is sitting at 240x11 (1.6 vcore) OCZ EB @ 240 MHz 3-3-2-10 1T 2.8V (2x512 MB) ... so it's a good start. I am loving this mobo :D
09-28-2004, 03:18 AM
Mrki

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perc

@Mrki

i agree your 1M scores look a tad bit low? i would of expected a beter score at 2600mhz 260HTT 1:1 then what your getting. im sure there are a few people in here that can tell you how to make the score get beter. other then that man "wow" thats a nice oc. you do that on air or you using xtreme cooling?

peace perc,

only air cooling :)

My memory run 1:1 ... You seen this on the screen i posted ...

Now i will test lower timings for mor mhz!

heyas chicken :D
09-28-2004, 03:24 AM
Kinsy

I think people need to be very careful with high vdimm on these boards.

[edit]It wasnt a resistor, it was a burnt-out trace. I just hope it hasnt killed the CPU - either way ive got another board arriving Thursday.
09-28-2004, 03:33 AM
andL64

the board is a :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: but if u get her sucking its a awsome :banana::banana::banana::banana: ;)

first when i got it....yesterday i thought i got a DOA because i installed my waco and plug all power cables in it says only "check ur vid card because power cable is unplugged?" so what the hell i thought tried the other cable (msiRX9800) for floppy the same then cmos clear the same.. but i started lol with jumpers on 2-3 and blackscreen....so i tried some more (change the cable) and what the :banana::banana::banana::banana:? it booted ;)

since i use the bios came with the board and i m very happy but i got some issues bout memory (dividers) HT frequencies and throttling of course...

but i dunno how it does this but its a OC champion really i needed 1,7-1,78Vcore for 2330-2370 max and it was instabile on my :banana::banana::banana::banana:-ty epox and here i go with 1,66-1,71 2350 rOckstable wOW but not enough the 2400 i ve broken stable i wont believe on 1,76-1,82 i can do without probs ran prime fpr 7h40min without errors on epox 2415 was most ever i could bench!

lets see how far i ll come.... :D

today mornin i want to check it out some more core but it crashed and then i setted bios settings diffrent and never come into win again not with default sett. anymoa? ahh the :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: again....

(hangs up in blinking one little straight line after chosed winXP screen like dos blinking hard to explain....)

then i went away when i came again 3 1/2 hours i unplugged the power ATX cable and 12V cable and the :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: is sucking again very well ;) so give it a try again... :)

but i only got 1 ide hdd so i cant allow to get the :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:ed swallow my hdd !

seEn andL

edit: i like bananas
09-28-2004, 05:55 AM
victor89

I must have this mainboard!!
09-28-2004, 09:24 AM
Ubermann

Absolutly the worst post i ever seen!
MY EYES ARE BLEEDING!!
09-28-2004, 10:58 AM
Sheik

My 3700+ is benchmarkable at 2.875 GHz with 1.7 Vore in Mach2 :p: I really like this motherboard. Scored 30631 3DMarks with WinXP & DX 9.0C :eek: and X800XT at stock speeds :banana4:
09-29-2004, 02:40 AM
AllBrain

Here is some screenshots of my system doing 250 HTT one to one:

Super_PI

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...I/Super_PI.jpg

Memory Bandwidth

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...yBandwidth.jpg

CPU Arithmetic

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...Arithmetic.jpg

CPU Multi-Media

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ulti-Media.jpg
09-29-2004, 03:03 AM
andL64

whoa i got pretty sucking bh-6 will not make 2,5-3-3-10 for 235 / 3,2Vdimm

soOn i m going to get bh-5 corsair hope there ll i get moa!

seen andL

EDIT: hey guys also got problems with MODDED bios with default i can go up to the boards limit but when i set above migic 270+ the board wont boot => dete. array
but with the default i can boot with 400x5/6

why is it so? maybe a tweak in the bios? one value but i setted it same as the default one but it wont boot....

maybe i ll go to the old back again :) oldschool rOckZ

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