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Hello to everyone,
I can not achieve stability in Prime95 in any way... Increase of Vtt/NB voltage gives nothing... Subject matter about GTL read, but it does not help.
Code:Ratio CMOS Setting: 8
FSB Frequency: 533
CPU Clock Skew: 200
NB Clock Skew: 200
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
DRAM Frequency: 1068
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
1st Information:
CAS Latency: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS to CAS Delay: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS Precharge: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS Activate to Precharge: 15 DRAM Clocks
RAS to RAS Delay: AUTO
Row Refresh Recycle Time: AUTO
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO
2nd Information:
Read to Write Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D): AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S): AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D): AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S): AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D): AUTO
3rd Information:
Write to PRE Delay: Auto
Read to PRE Delay: Auto
PRE to PRE Delay: Auto
All PRE to ACT Delay: Auto
All PRE to REF Delay: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: dis
DRAM Read Training: dis
MEM. OC Charger: dis
Ai Clock Twister: moderate
Ai Transaction Booster: Manual
Common Performance Level:10
Pull-in of CHA PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH3: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH3: Disabled
PCIE Frequency: 100
CPU Voltage: 1.375
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.51
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.32
DRAM Voltage: 1,9
North Bridge Voltage: 1.32
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.51
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.11
CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (1): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (3): Auto
NB GTL Reference: -80
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto
CPU Configuration:
Ratio CMOS Setting: 8
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: enable
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
You do not even list your CPU !
If that is a Quad (even if 45nm) you have no chance of that FSB even to boot to windows.
If its a Dual (esp if 45nm) you could get it stable at that FSB easily with some tweaks.
I am sorry,
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 [E0]
Asus Maximus II Formula [bios 2302, Intel P45 rev.A3]
Geil Ultra Plus 2x2Gb DDRII 1066Mhz 5-5-5-15
Microsoft Windows® 7 Ultimate x64
Ok a Dual 45nm CPU good !
A good sample of this Mobo could hit 600FSB (not all) but it depends on your Memory also.
Your also lucky you have a newer Rev A3 Northbridge.
This all is clear, but as to me stably to adjust FSB=533, Prime95 strews mistakes... Nothing helps.
Guys, can you share you 500x8, 500x9 bios setting for q9650 please :)
You have little to no change m8.Quote:
Originally Posted by WaterFlex
This POS of a Mobo cannot do that in 99% of samples including later A3 Northbridge infact I have not seen 1 proven to be 100% stable at 500FSB with a Quad.
Someone somewhere may have got lucky and have 500FSB 100% stable though.
Most top out about 475FSB and any more takes lot of tweaking and extra voltage.
I got to 485-490FSB but it was not worth the extra time and voltages, it was stable 1 day and not the next, that's Asus for you.
Iam agree with you... My next board choice goes not for ASUSQuote:
Originally Posted by humeyboy
Saturn, 533 FSB is a big ask, but hey, why not try.
If you fail, just set 444fsb (easy on low volts) and use the 9 multi for the CPU and use the 5:6 divider on the 333 strap to get your ram at 533.
This should be a super 24/7 overclock.
If you are still serious about 533, then I would suggest using uneven clock skews, perhaps increase cpu to 300ps and leave NB at 200ps. This might dial your fsb back into trim - it worked for me albeit on a quad.
Does not help... :down::(Quote:
Originally Posted by temporarychicke
You should not need touch Skews for a Dual Core infact even GTL's can be left on Auto for 500FSB (not sure on higher) but you can tune lower votlages with proper GTL's.
I was only limited by my Memory not hitting 1200MHZ when I tried to get 600FSB on my old E8600.
I only really had to mess with GTL's and Skews with the Quad.
@Saturn™
This post might be helpful--> http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=2718
There is a new Bios out at the Asus Support page. Supports the new C2D series as I know so far.
:wave:
Hi
This my settings on the M2F, may be useful to someone.
http://www.geting.se/image.php/240693-IMG_1567.JPG http://www.geting.se/image.php/240696-IMG_1568.JPG http://www.geting.se/image.php/240694-IMG_1569.JPG http://www.geting.se/image.php/240695-IMG_1570.JPG http://www.geting.se/image.php/240697-IMG_1571.JPG
it seems i made my chip working at 500x9 :) some pics soon
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Originally Posted by pawelzolo
thanx for sharing!
what r your temps there?
Well hurry it up already LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by WaterFlex
Every time I see one of these posts it give me hope !
I am not on newest Bios as it supposedly is only to add a few newer Dual Core CPU's.
I gave up messing as above 475FSB too too much time and voltage/tweaks and was not stable from 1 day to the next or infact 1 boot to next reboot.
I tied mines down to needing the 50ps instead of 100ps increments for Skews on CPU and NB but Asus never did add this.
There was no point in me having 475FSB with low voltages and no major tweaks and then having to pump to far higher (still safe) voltages and tweak like mad for days to get 480-490FSB to find it was stable 1 boot and not the next boot.
nice oneQuote:
Originally Posted by pawelzolo
your temps under 100% load? :)
I can not come on Ket's page, how me to download Modbioses for M2F?
Pics or it didn't happen :DQuote:
Originally Posted by WaterFlex
I can get 500FSB right now but it will not Stress for any length of time.
I have seen it and heard it all and have yet to see a MFII pass Prime etc at 500FSB on a Quad.
I know there must be a few lucky ones with good sample Mobos out there though and it does not matter if A2 or A3 NB.
@Saturn,you can try the DL Linky at the bottom of the page.the first one dont work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saturn™
use at your own risk:rolleyes:
Kets ultimate mainboard BIOS mods
or try this
Maximus 2 Formula mBIOS.rar 2302
Thanks, but it has not helped me... mother does not wish 533Мhz to hold... I haven't already force and patience. :wth:
Maybe is the processor unsuccessful or memory?
this or rampage extreme. extreme is more rare'r that runs @ 16x but this board can run sli @ only 8x... correct me if i'm wrong
just wait a bit :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
M8, that has been OVER 1 month since you psoted that claim !
If you have by some miracle found some magic setting please FGS share them !
humeyboy
sorry mate, i was busy at work a lot. Will post pics on Sunday ;)
its monday where are the pics:shrug:
:horse:
You are running a dual-core on your MIIF correct? Other than memory or NB ..you should not have any 'wall' at such low fsb. I do not know any E8xxx that has fsb wall below 600mhz or at all for that matter... :shrug: ..I was running ~1.48v MCHv for 533-570mhz fsb.. so long as mem latency was kept above 50-52ns.. [using 2x1's of course].Quote:
Originally Posted by Saturn™
Guys, I can`t make my board work at FSB 500:shrug:
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Originally Posted by WaterFlex
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Originally Posted by WaterFlex
then what was all this about?:shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by WaterFlex
I have errors when running the test after 20-30 mins :(Quote:
Originally Posted by radaja
So post your settings maybe some people still can help you to finetune?
Hi hello, you know where I can find the bios mBIOS 2302?
Thanks
Hello, I need help 4.0 Ghz, so I'm getting 3.80 GHz
Processor: q9550 e0 (vid 1.25v)
Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 8.5
FSB Frequency: 450
CPU Clock Skew: Auto
NB Clock Skew: Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge: Auto
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1081MHz
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: auto
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
1st Information:
CAS# Latency: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15 DRAM Clocks
RAS# to RAS# Delay: Auto
Row Refresh Recycle Time: Auto
Write Recovery Time: Auto
Read to Precharge Time: Auto
2nd Information:
Read to Write Delay (S/D): Auto
Write to Read Delay (S): Auto
Write to Read Delay (D): Auto
Read to Read Delay (S): Auto
Read to Read Delay (D): Auto
Write to Write Delay (S): Auto
Write to Write Delay (D): Auto
3rd Information:
Write to PRE Delay: Auto
Read to PRE Delay: Auto
PRE to PRE Delay: Auto
All PRE to ACT Delay: Auto
All PRE to REF Delay: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM. OC Charger: Auto
Ai Clock Twister: Auto
Ai Transaction Booster: Auto
Common Performance Level: Auto
Pull-in of CHA PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH3: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH3: Disabled
PCIE Frequency: 101
CPU Voltage: 1.32500
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.56625
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.35175
DRAM Voltage: 2.30350
North Bridge Voltage: 1.33850
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: Auto
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: Auto
CPU GTL Reference (0): 70
CPU GTL Reference (1): 70
CPU GTL Reference (2): 70
CPU GTL Reference (3): 70
NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto
CPU Configuration:
Ratio CMOS Setting: 8.5
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
my configuration:
Core 2 Quad Q9550 @4.0GHZ|Cooler CPU Corsair Hydro H70|Asus Maximus II Formula (P45)|GeIL PC 8500 8GB (4 x 2GB) DDR2 1066Mhz|1 CRUCIAL M4 CT064M4SSD2 2.5" 64GB SATA III SSD com SO|1 OCZ Vertex 2 OCZSSD2-2VTXE120G 2.5" 120GB SSD FSX|2x1TB(RAID0) WD Caviar Black(WD1002FAEX) SATA 6Gb/s 7200RPM 64MB|HighPoint RocketRAID 2710 PCI-Express 2.0 x8 SAS/SATA 6Gb/s|EVGA GeForce GTX 460 FTW 1024MB GDDR5 EE(External Exhaust)|Fonte CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750W SLI/CrossFire Active Power|Gabinete Cooler Master HAF 922|LG 37LH55 37-Inch 1080p 240MHZ LCD HDTV|Windows 7 Ultimate Final 64 bits
Some of those settings at high for 450FSB, even if it was set to more stressful 1:1 Ratio!
You need to find a good NB GTL setting not leave at auto and CPU GTL's should not really be +or - 70 if you worked out the calculations!
I had issues over 425FSB till I set NB to +40, then its a brick wall at 475FSB same as most users find with a Quad and very hard to get past it unless your lucky with a good sample Mobo!
I got some 1200mhz Memory the other day to see if its really easier to do 5:6 over 1:1 and even though it runs them at 1200mhz I still cannot get any higher FSB that is 100% stable, 500FSB for me is not going to happen on a Quad only my older Dual.
Mobo lacks any real support and Bioses were crap!
It's difficult to get a set, you can pass me your configuration because it should serve as a sampleQuote:
Originally Posted by humeyboy
thanks
with VTT 1.32500, which the values of GTL's? how to calculate
0/2 (ref. VTT x 0.635) =
1/2 (ref. VTT x 0.667) =
NB GTL (ref. VTT x 0.64) =
thank you
1st post shows GLT's in layman's terms, remember you have a 45nm CPU not 65nm.
http://forums.pureoverclock.com/show...I-Formula-Club
thanks for the help, very good site:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by humeyboy
Hello,
according to my calculations GTLs is;
CPU Voltage: 1.32500
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.56625
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.35175
DRAM Voltage: 2.30
North Bridge Voltage: 1.33850
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: Auto
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: Auto
CPU GTL Reference (0): 30
CPU GTL Reference (1): -10
CPU GTL Reference (2): 30
CPU GTL Reference (3): -10
NB GTL Reference: ?
how to calculate the value NB GTL Reference: ?
NB is not as clearly stated anywhere!
I think I Googled links and ended up using same calc as CPU's but for whatever nm (size) the NB is (cannot remember right now but it may be 80-90nm).
I set NB GTL by testing. It varies from board to board, just have to find the sweet spot. With mine, it'd be stable in Prime/LinX and mem tests, then it'd crash out of games (crysis I think i was playing a lot at that time). By dropping the NB GTL to -30mv or so it fixed it right up. For others they needed to do for ex +30mv.......just depends.
Need some advice. I "upgraded" my VGA card from an ATI Radeon HD 4870 to a 4870x2. After the install of the new card, I cannot get the system to power on. When I turn on the PSU, the "Republic of Gammers" light, power on and reset lights on the mobo, and the CMOS reste light/button on the IO panel flash repeatedly. The BIOs LED also flashes. So , why don't I go back to the old 4870 to rule out the card? My card is water cooled, and I want to avoid disconnecting the plumbing if I can.
I have verified that it's not the PSU by hooking it to a tester. Thoughts? Is there a particular BOIs level needed to support the x2 card?
Thanks for any feedback.
***UPDATE*** - Never mind. Bad USB2 card in the PCI slot. Replaced and all is well.
Should make zero difference, its SLI/Crossfire on a stick for dual GPU cards so its seen as a single GPU until you install drivers in Windows!
Unfortunately, I've misplaced my Maximus II Formula's installation disk which had all the device drivers for XP. I've searched the ASUS site for an ISO but don't see anything there. So... I'm curious how a Windows 7 installation would go with this board with whatever drivers it may have. Has ASUS released Win7 drivers for this board or has it fallen into the "no longer supported" category? It still runs great but has been relegated to more mundane chores as a P8Z68 Deluxe now sits on the gaming bench.
Thanks,
Ender
The drivers are all there on the Asus site or better still get latest from the actual vendors : i.e. Intel Chipset+Storage drivers from Intel and Marvel NIC drivers from Marvel as they are normally newer!
The CD's are out of date by time you buy the Mobo!
Win 7 : http://support.asus.com/download.asp...Vim24yGru3f3g6
Thanks very much for the link! You know, I used the search function at the ASUS site to look for Maximus II Formula drivers and it kept returning "0 items found". My attempts to navigate to specific drivers was also a trip down an endless rabbit hole. Then again, my wife can find anything I'm looking for in my own closet when I can't. Thanks again for the help!
Ender
Hey guys, since you have all moved to more modern technologies I take it you are more than familiar with the motherboard. I have had this baby for a long time (cannot usually afford to change hardware regularly, especially now with college) and I was getting the idea of devoting some time to play with it. However, the bios settings give me a headache and I really want to learn how things fit together. I had done some reading in the past but after entering college I sort of let it go. Now I want back in. Any pointers on how to get a stable overclock for my old favourite system? Tell me what info you need and if this is the right posting place (if not please provide a link or transfer the post). Thank you.
Sorry to say this but that was the worst mobo i ever had not only me u can spot the GIGABYTE UD3P thread on one time we had it and the best ever made mobo for P45 was the GIGA UD3P P45, the Maximus II bad volts regulators, bios a mess one day stable, the other day not, i will search my database to find you a stable OCQuote:
Originally Posted by geo7dlx
again sorry to say it
Sergio
you must have not had much mobos in 775 days.. worst board is easily any of the nvidia chipsets. (asus striker II extreme, couldnt get any sort of overclock stable on top of needing the whole mess to be watercooled to be able to do anything)Quote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
id say its second best only bested by giga board(as it can go higher fsb but id say thats about it.).. and being that ive traded boards a few times and still use 775 its still pretty fresh
(with quadcore and 4 sticks of ram)
"stable" is really based on what ram/cpu/etc etc its so based on everything other than the main parts, ive taken tons of "tutorials" cant get any of that nonsence stable, trial and error is the way overclocking is done. especially if you dont use the best hardware of the day to find exact tutorial, so much changes with so little differances in hardware
google around your hardware and use that as a starting point, but even if you found exact hardware i doubt you could get stable with the same exact settings.
holy thread necro :D tho im glad to see that im not the only one overclocking this board still
here mate
hope you can get it all info there
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/5...s341200pl7.jpg
and this is on GIGA UD3P the MF2 would never ever get to this
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/284...392vcore21.jpg
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for once your absolutely correct :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
mf2 overpriced overhyped board:down: