Wow that's really good overclocking that memory you have, 231mhz (462mhz) try lower your memory mhz too 183mhz in the bios, you should be able too get higher on cpu mhz then,
coop
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Wow that's really good overclocking that memory you have, 231mhz (462mhz) try lower your memory mhz too 183mhz in the bios, you should be able too get higher on cpu mhz then,
coop
well.. it did 245Mhz before when using slot 1 and 2... and rams with the same chips have been doing way past 250mhz mark.. roughly 270-280mhz at 1:1
Nice memory, no heat spreaders, I have a hard time getting my corsair pc4000 pass 211mhz 1t or 2t my old 3000 chip would go 2.4ghz at 266 * 9 set to 4 ht memory was at 150mhz which made it 211mhz if I remember right.
coop
also the only way I can use all the slot is too set it too 2t maybe you need too do the same too run just slot 3 and 4.
coop
ok. managed to get a HTT of 260 with 1.60 volts on hte cpu.
i can run games, but can't seem to pass any cpu tests.
i notice the heat is starting to go up . . .
idle 45, load goes up past 65 !
sys temp. 30 ( i know, got to turn down the heating in the house ! )
think it's a cobo of volt. fluctuations, and the end of standard cooling.
was thinking of getting te Zalman CNPS9500, is this the best cooler ? or is there a better one ?
think i'm gonna do some serious case mods to get the hot air out, and re route cables etc etc.
advice anyone .?
Is there no way to enable Power On via Keyboard?
The option "S3 Wake Up By PS2/Keyboard" does work for S3 standby mode but not for S5 power off.
Some other nForce3 250 motherboards with Award BIOS's have an additional option to set that to "S3/S4/S5" or an option to just wake by keyboard and not restrict it to S3 mode.
I've been looking at the hidden bios options and some of sideeffect's standard bios mods, but doesn't look like it's there.
Anybody ever get this to work?
ok .. cooptroop4, the 2T settings nets me 20mhz more htt but spi 1m time about the same though... guess i 'm satisfied with 231 hehe..
its done at 3-3-2-7
vcore 1.45v+3.3%
vdimm 2.5v
can anybody post a d/l-link für the 1.d-bios from sideeffect?!
the link in his sig redirects me to a forum... which is empty :D
sideeffects forum IS empty !
i only know of 2 other sites that hold sideeffects bois, but they haven't got version 1.d on them ! i think the only differeance for 1.d is they added fx60 support !
the site is
http://www.lejabeach.com/MSIK8N/k8nneo2.html
What is best BIOS for K8N NEO2 Platinum for max MHZ?
I run with O144 on 310FSB, but CPU has max FSB about 315, becoase I need stable BIOS for max MHz (FSB)
I just picked up a MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum, read so much about it's quirks. Now to my own, I know the temp sensors have been suspect bios update supposed to fix. My MS-7025VER:1(I take it, it is revision1, what were the differences between rev-rev2?) arrived with bios 1.3, flashed it to official 1.9, it idles at around 29/30 but as soon as you put it under load it jumps from 30c to 40c(stock cpu speeds 2.0ghz) overlocked 2.6 1.45-8.3% 31/32c to 53c and keeps rising, this is on prime, as soon as you stop it will drop from around 57c to 35c. I take it this is a dodgy sensor, I have cool n quiet off in the bios?
Another question, I can see no volt adjustment for the chipset in the bios, is there any?
On some early/short results, managed prime stable10x260 2.6/3x/1.45-8.3%/166 slots 1+2
Anything above that fails, I have booted to 2.7/2.8/2.85/2.9
Thanks
Hello, my first post :)
I also have a jumpy cpu temperature problem. I own a amd64 venice 3000+ cpu.
The cpu idles at around 32-33C in my watercooled system, with cool n quiet enabled. The water temp is 29 degrees.
As soon as I load the cpu the temp jumps to 50 degrees (actually there is something wrong here too, after I sleep the pc to ram-S3 mode-, the cpu temp decreases 5C) and stays there. During this time the water temp is 30-31 degrees.
Is there a fault with the boards temp sensor, or is my cpu's thermal resistance between the IHS and actual core is so high, that I am reading 20C difference with the water temp.
Thanks
Keep c&q off. How much vcore are you pushing and what hardware are you working with Max T ?
Youll have to test the actual vcore I have to give mine 1.4 + 8.3% to get 1.5v and 1.4 + 10.% to get 1.6. Yes the sensors are not that accurate. Mine sometimes go to hell when I run prime. Sometimes when I try other combinations to get up to 1.5 1.6ish I get misreadings and unstability but with above settings I pull 24 hr dual prime stable.
Potex you will be fine with X2 4400 and mushkin. My board loves my mushkin but mines not UCCC. I had gskill and it likes my muskin better, also likes 11 multi best. Use slot 1&2 the 2 closest to the cpu.:toast:
the temp difference between the water and the cpu must be 2-3 degrees tops.
But I see differences over 20 degrees. I am guessing either the ihs-core resistivity is really high, or faulty temp reading.
My vcore is default at 1.40 volts and cool n quiet is enabled. I've tried disabling cool n quiet and now the cpu idles at 42 degrees with water temp at 28 and cpu load temp is still 50C.
I still have no idea why the cpu temperature drop 5C after a succesfull wakeup from S3(suspend to ram) state.
Do you have the amd driver loaded? Well you know that it should just be a 2deg. difference between the water so I dont think you are actually loading that high. One time I got a read of 110 degrees on my cpu :eek: I knew it was bs this was under dual prime 24hrs the poor little sensor couldnt take it. I use everest ultimate/speedfan/and sandra to moniter temps with this board. I dont trust any of the readings. My bios says idle of 35 deg. soft IDLE 30-31 under load 51-55. So i just figure its somewhere in between.
I think someone on here was going to change the caps Im still waiting for the outcome. I load the amd driver and all nvidia drivers except IDE. CNQ disabled. Nothing on auto in bios. I dont like my moniter turning off/AMP to ALWAYS ON I think Im using S1(POS). Maybe the hybernation is causing the dips in temp readings?
yeah during idle the temp between the core and water should be around 2-3 degrees. I verified this on my last intel cpu also still verifying on my gpu temps.
During load depending on the thermal resistance and wattage used by the die the difference will increase.
For example my gpu gives a 6C difference during load and nearly 0C during idle.
But the cpu is a whole different story :)
At the moment I am just ignoring the cpu temp reading and using the water temp as a baseline.
Changing cool n quite on/off didnt make any difference.
I had some kit around spare, just needed board/cpu to make up another folderQuote:
Originally Posted by sinister1st
FSP 350W
3200 Venice
2x256 pc3200 geil ultra
97 pro
My board is working away nicely, flashed to sideefects 1.C(thanks to sideeffect)bios. I had everything turned off in bios 1.9, 1.c does alot of that by default, these boards are great fun
Folded 2 tinkers, 2.5/2.550 1.42v according speedfan, currently running 2.6-1.42v, just over halfway into wu, will keep pushing.
I re-seated the hsf and some AS5,the temp jump is still there. Speedfan currently showing 44c, under load, I would hazard a guess that it is about 10c over
can i replace the little cooler that cool the board only with a radiator...
I have a Thermatake PSU,Ati silencer 5 2, Arctic cooling Ultra64 tcl..The tiny mb cooler is the noisest thing in my PC..I need to get rid of it somehow..what you guys recommend? thank you
Heres the "standard" 1.D by sideeffect:
http://tmmtmm.org/files/1D1SideEffect_Standard.rar
:toast:
@Losphoron: Any small passive heatsink should be fine as Nforce3 doesn't make alot of heat. The Zalman NB47-J heatsinks tend to work well :)
here's 1.D tccd
http://rapidshare.de/files/16762101/1dtccd.rar.html
[uploaded on rapidshare]
oh well, still can get ram stable at 255, so i left msi for epox
good luck guys o/
Hi!I'm wondering if my cpu temps are accurate with Sideeffect bios 1.b?Because in idle i have 26C and when playing i think it goes 35C.Are these temps real?Because they seem very low especially in idle.
Why are temp differences between oficial bios and Sideeffect?
I have a Lexa case with temp sensors.The one from cpu shows 31C in idle.Which temp is more real?The one from bios or the one from the case's sensor?
the system is:MSI Neo 2 Platinum,A64 3200+ with Freezer 64,vcore 1.4,2*512 Kingmax,Asus 6800,Chieftec 450W
Having zero luck for stability at anything over 2.5 10x250, tried lowering multi 9x, pumping more volts, the cpu is prime stable, and folding stable 1.4v 3.3%-1.42 according to speed fan, even at 1.6 2.550/2.6 it fails, the cpu has booted to 2.9 on this board, I have no idea what it actually can do, but I would guess it can do more than 2.5 stable. Tried the private/general settings but rhis only produces a hold after windows screen.
Were there problems with rev 1 boards and stability over 250
ok. don't shoot me for this, but what are your mem settings ..? have you tried with a 1:2 div. ( to take the mem out of the equation ? )
are you using mem. slots 1 and 2 ? ( 3 and 4 can be trouble some )
any one else have ideas ..??
Max what is your memory set for mhz, try backing that down, I had problems also the same as you, bought better memory and I can do 11 * 250 all day long.
coop
my 3200 venice needs 1.45 + 5 % to prime stable I also had it at 10 x 250 and I dropped back down to 245 cause I suspected it was causeing a problem esp. since my ht was reported over 1000 for some wierd reason so I for sure under 1000 now .Quote:
Originally Posted by Max Tractor
I think 500ddr is enough for pc3200 and see people going for 10 x 260 is really cracking me up.
the only other valid set up for this board is then with the 9 divider and the 183 divider , but I would only attemt something like 9 x 270 or whatever with an opteron that can for sure do that and ofcourse you would need the sideeffect bios for the 183 divider . Tractor if your sticking with your cpu then I would stick a fork in it and call it done
hi guys, what will happin if i use c&q when overclocked? i mean i like it overclocked when runing games and apps but i dont like to turn off my computer ether to save on my power bill.. well to speak of why wont q&c work at all when over clocked? im running bios 1.c . im running a 3000 plus venice e3 stepping and i can run it 9 X 295 but my mem has to be under 235 and at 2t.i was going for 2.9 but this is fine i guess. Thanks for any input
Funny u should ask as late last night I got my old MSI neo2 back up and running with a venice and I wonted the same as u as my main rig (see sig) I have 'CnQ' working a treat when overclocked using 'Crystalcpuid' and it works a real treat. declocking to CPU to a CPU multi of x4 with 1.0Vcpu and having a max of x11 1.45Vcpu and also a min setting too. keeps it cool when browsing and fires to life as soon as its needed.Quote:
Originally Posted by akbnkb
so I treid to gwt it to work on the Neo2 and venice last night - but the AMD driver to allow CnQ doesnt work with the venice needs an opteron. I treid it and it locked up the system when crystalcpuid mulipler managment system was enabled and 'when I took off the AMD CnQ driver and then tried the crystalcpuid mulipler managment system I got a BSOD.
So options r as far as I can see are
1. upgrade to an opty
2. tuff
I would be interested if anyone else has an opty on this mobo and has some sort of CnQ working with an overclock as I might consider selling this Venice and getting an opty because the CnQ works so well on my main rig.
If u do have an opty and wish to try it - install the AMD driver for QnQ here
and CystalCpuid is here install the amd driver first but dont enable CnQ in the Bios then install CystalCPUID . I installed it to a directry in program files which I made and called it crystallCPUID and then plaed a shortcut in the startup dir modifing the command line option from "C:\CrystalCPUID\CrystalCPUID.exe" to "C:\CrystalCPUID\CrystalCPUID.exe" /CQ /HIDE as it shows here
both bits of software r easy to instal and easy to remove so go on give that opty and try and let it cool between frags, u stand nothing to lose.
U can even set it to lock out on the MIn/mid and max muli on the fly by just click on an ion in the system tray. I have my opty to boot at a lower multi and volts and when it gets into windows cystalcpuid takes over and still gives u the full CPU muli range of the chip.
If anyone has CnQ working on an Venice I would be greatful myself to here about it
'Summer is a coming'
Thanx for the input guys
Slots 1+2
I am running 1T 166 divider=208 2.75V-2.5-3-3-7 4xHT, uptime folding of 5 days 17 hours fully stable
Tighter timings 2-3-3-6 result in a slower pi time, strange.lol
This board has quite a few quirks, I reckon the cpu has loads more in it, but not in this board
I can't get C & Q to work on my board, after installing everything its a no go.
coop
I've been wondering why no one ever posts this link:
http://www.swjka.com/neo2/index.php
Its where Sideeffect posts his bios directly. You'll get them there (including 1.D) long before you'll get them elsewhere.
A 1.D beta 2 bios was released but with no changelog and nothing appears new in the bios. I dont think ill bother making a mod of it. 1.D proved less stable for me than 1.C as well. Im using 1.C3.
Havnt been modding neo 2 as much because im building a server Tyan Thunder K8SRE (nforce profesional) :p:
Sideeffect, the 1.C no-temp is amazing. Its the FIRST revision I've ever used that has been stable on my system for more than 24 hours. I've been primeing for 72 hours straight now without a hickup at -12C on my A64.
I think my 6800gt likes the 1.C more than anything.
Yes I agree 1.C is the best so far for me as well. I also have a 6800 GT which would sometimes act strangely with certain bios revisions.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeus...
Well I have the AMD cpu driver loaded and I have the new core center installed. I have c& q turned OFF in the bios.
When Im in core center I can click on cool and quite and it works just fine. Clicks off too no problem. Im not really interested in useing it and just checked it a couple weeks ago for the hell of it.
My only question is why does it work without turning it on in the bios or maybe that is the auto way for it to run and I didnt know it ..... I dont know . I have a 3200 venice and it works for me through core center.
I have never tried anything about this with the bios option turned on .
I think CoreCenter will let you turn it on regardless of the bios' setting is because the bios doesn't lock it once it sets it.
Doesn't seem any different from the way we can OC with CoreCenter
How do you know its working, I turn mine on and nothing seems to change at all?
thks
coop
^ I wondered the same thing.^
I have a noob question, what does "Cpu startup vid" mean in the bios?
I have mine set to 1.475. I thought it meant that 1.475 was the startup vcore and then you add to that by adjusting the % setting after that. Is that right?
The main reason I'm asking this is because I'm trying to increase my vcore and the % setting isn't raising my vcore according to CPUZ.
I then tried to increase the above mentioned Startup vid and couldn't boot into windows.
If its not working check right click desktop, click screen saver goto power on the first tab in power schemes in the first pull down menu select minimal power managment and it will work unless you are running somthing like a folding app or somthing.it also works over clocked as well......i did my reading on it after posting my question on how to get it to work..hope it helps, also to verifiy its working core center will tell you what it has set the multiplyer to and fsb, Avery
hey can anyone tell me how to get my sig side by side insted of top and bottom? Thanks, Avery
Use an html table?
I can't get my C & Q too work left it running all night with core up and found the cpu still at 2750mhz did the settings in screen saver and also the bios. I'm using the sideefect 1c. any ideas.
thks
coop
Ok got CnQ working
download 'AMD Athlon™ 64 Processor Driver for Windows XP and Windows Server 2003 Version (exe) 1.2.2.' from here eighth one down.
run the install program from AMD and reboot(if u run it a second time after reboot the install program takes the AMD CnQ driver off)
on reboot press 'DEL' enter bios and enable 'CnQ' in bios - think it was in the cell menu
save and exit
and as soon as the core center starts up ( and assuming u have 'CnQ' enable in the core center it works
if u havent got it enabled in the core center - click on where it says 'core center' on the core center as enable it.
works a treat but haven't treid it with overclocked settings - or setting any Vcpu changes still have this system @STD and auto for Vcpu and mutlipler settings
Will try again with 'CrystalCPUID' later and see if that works now that 'CnQ' is working. SO far when I have tried it the system has just locked up. but sons fragging on the system ATM so will try later.
cpu stays the same, I'm overclocking, that met be why it doesn't work, I will try at default settings later.
thks
coop
hi ya,
having some real problems trying to get my nv lan to work, and hopefully get the graphics card on it's own IRQ.
i can't get the nv lan to work. does detect it in windows, but won't re new the ip.
in the bios, the mac address is disabled, and when i set it to enabled and exit, the screen hangs for a couple of secs, then reboots ... but still with it disabled.
windows has a mac address asigned to it.
starts with fb-ff-ff ( not sure i should post the whole mac address on the interenet. ? :stick: )
i try to manually put in the same mac address in thte bois. but again it just hangs.
atm i'm using the realtek lan. and it shares the same IRQ, as my 6800GT.
any ideas people ..? ?
thanks .
To Blade148, Mine did the same thing and I goofed up some of my settings while trying to OC and decided to reflash my bios and when I did it started working on it's own.
I leave the NV Lan setting on auto.
I have done so many adjustments that I can't really recall exactly what made it work but I think it was the reflash of the bios that did it for me.
Couldn't hurt to try.
coop i dont think seting to stock will do the trick.....im not sure why its not working for you.i also have that bios. mine is oced as well not that high right now but my q & c is working..what cpu r u using? im runing a venice 3000+ e3 stepping. also r u using any apps that might be using to much of ur cpu?
Avery
I have the opr 148 cpu, haven't tryed the stock setting yet,
thks
coop
oh, i know nothin about optys...but i thought they had a diferent driver than regular a64s..sorry i dont think i can be of any help, Avery
Maybe this might helpQuote:
Originally Posted by blade148
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...03#post1109203
:toast:
i dont know why cool and quite is such a big problem
when you click it on in core center both my fans cpu and north bridge go to about half speed. Nothing else changes wheather im at 2500mhz or 2009 mhz thats all it does!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by sinister1st
YES ! you are a star ! thanks sinister.
simple.
the sticker on your printer port is your nv lan mac address.
simply re enter it in hte bios. !
thanks :)
magica, it is sapose to lower your cpu speeds and fan speeds to save power and make the pc quieter. your cpu doesnt lower ferqunces when on? if not do you have the amd driver loaded? have you changed windows power settings?do you have any programs running that would use lots of power like folding apps or anything?it will only work with what i said above and nothing power hungry running. i may not be the first to go to about this but i couldnt get it to work and then learned that amd has a driver for the cpu and i had to change power settings in screen saver menu.hope this helps, Avery
Agreed. 1.8 and 1.C3 are the best imo. 1.8 gets me to about 340HTT and 1.C3 gets me 350-360HTT.Quote:
Originally Posted by sideeffect
TMM, have you tried the 1C Final bios? Do you think I would have anything to gain from switching to the 1C3 from the 1C Final?
kbtat2 It seems that the 1.C3 works better with nvidia 6800 cards as at least 3 people have mentioned that now. In my experiance at high overclocks I can be 100 percent stable in windows but crash in games with some bios revisions.
1.C3 doesnt have that problem for me 1.C final does.
Thanks Sideeffect, I will try that bios out and see.
I'm sure it's already been covered but it's kinda hard to absorb everything after 164 pages :D .
same as SE here - 1.C3 runs my 6800 fine, 1.C0 sometimes "freezes up" for a few seconds every few minutes on my 6800 when playing games.
edit: now put some heatsinks on the mosfets for vcore. was getting a bit unstable over 1.55v with my opteron, so if the board still works *prays no arctic silver adhesive got on mosfet legs* Then i'll do the vddr ones aswell :)
Sinking the mosfets allowed me to knock off ~0.025v at the same clocks as before :toast: (down from needing 1.6v to prime @ 2880mhz to 1.575v), and i still need to sink the ones on the back of the board!
Hey TMM, could you take a pic of where you put the heatsinks?
http://www.tmmtmm.org/files/neo2_si_2.jpg
crap pic i know, but the flash broke on my digicam (7 year old Olympus 1.3MP woot!) ..actually im not sure what HASN'T broken on that camera yet heh
http://www.tmmtmm.org/files/neo2_si.jpg
red shaded area is where the sink is. blue arrows are the mosfets for vddr which could be worth while doing, and red ones im not entirely sure what they do (vAGP and chipset voltage?) but they get pretty hot tho.
are you using copper heatskins?
aluminum - its a Pentium1 (iirc) cooler hacked up to size :)
hey people, i've got myself a X2 3800+ (was running 2.7Ghz @ 1.56v stable on a friends machine) now i've got it and i want to get it at 2.6Ghz, my gear is the following:
AMD X2 3800+
MSI K8N Neo2 Plat.
1Gb Corsair TwinX 3200XL (2-2-2-5) Ram in Dual Chanel
Asetek Watercooling System
Ati 9800XT
Antec 480w TruePower
ok now i need a little tutorial on how i could acheive this overclock as this is my first AMD system so im a n00b at it...
also i have a problem with my BIOS, were if i have 1 stick of ram in the slot my bios will boot fine, when i add another it also boots fine until i boot windows, and try to enter the bios on next start up, i get a white Underscore just flashing on a black screen, this can be fixed by taking out a stick of ram, booting into bios, saving the settings, putting the second back in, but then next time ill have the same problem, anyone know whats going on?!
thanks in advance!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Abercrombi3
Have u updated the bios?
Abercrombi3, which ramslot did u use?
Yep, use the two nearest the CPUQuote:
Originally Posted by e-jump
i did use the 2 closest to the CPU and my bios was updated to the newest with no change...
which Bios?Quote:
Originally Posted by Abercrombi3
CPU-Z Says:
Brand:Pheonix Technologies, LTD
Version: 6.00 PG
Date: 09/07/2005
i used that live update thingy....
not that :)
At boot near MS-7025 there is a number v1.x ...this is the bios version you need to know
oh ok, heres a photo of the post 169kb :)
http://www.footballfactor.net/style_images/IMG_0063.jpg
Is there any way to set 1.6v vcore in BIOS with an X2 chip with a default voltage of 1.35v? I'm using linux, so bumping volts up with CoreCenter isn't an option. I'd use the 1.36 bios, but since I'm using an X2, I have a feeling it wouldn't work out that great.
DragonO if you want 1.6v try 10%+1.4 thats what I use for my X2 4400. Use the latest 1.b official or sideeffects bios 1.c (a few different flavors).
I'm using 1.4v + 10%, but that only gets me ~1.55v with SideEffect's 1.c TCCD bios. I actually have it set to 1.5v + 10%, just to make sure I'm getting as much as I can.
Hello,
After i wake my pc from s3 sleep state, cpu fsb and ram divider revert back to values set at the bios. Also the cpu voltage is set to 1.4 default value.
Is there a way to change this behaviour? I want the values to stay where they are.
I have a amd64 venice 3000+.
I have a problem with the SATA3 and SATA4 ports on my K8N Neo2. Whenever I connect a drive to one of them I can't boot into windows. It gets to the windows loading sreen but the screen is very faint and the progress bar doesn't move. I have tried several drives which all work OK when connected to SATA1 or SATA2.
Also, I just bought a Maxtor 300gb SATA driv. The drive is capable of 300mb (SATA II ?). When I try to connect it to any SATA port I am unable to boot into windows. It attempts to reboot and keeps going to the 'didn't boot correctly into windows last time...' screen. I changed the jumper on the drive make it 150mb but it still didn't work. It's possible that the drive is faulty but I wanted to check to see if the K8N Neo2 board had a size restriction for SATA drives.
Any ideas?
Make sure that you have the drivers for the SATA chip on the mobo. I'm not sure if 3 & 4 use a Silicon Image chip. You might want to check that out.
anyone have any idea whats up with mine???
try setting your timings to 2-3-2-7 instead of 2-2-2-7, and then change it back to 2-2-2 in Windows with A64Tweaker.
I have som serious problems with my new RAM
512*2 XTREEM DDR600 Team Group
When I run bios 1.47mod the RAM can only run 1:1@300FSB in singelchannel not in dual 1024. Does anyone else have problems running 1:1@300FSB, or have the solution to my problem?
My goal is running 300*9 = 2700mhz, its not the cpu that's the problem.
System:
3000+ Venice
2*512 XTREEM
MSI NEO2
I've tried 1.36b with bad results, no boot unless FSB<220.
//Aoe
You'll be very lucky on a NF3 to reach anywhere near 1:1 at 300 in dual channel.
Ok, how about NF4?Quote:
Originally Posted by Draxx
Hello All,
It has been a while. The advise I received in the past was very good and I would like some more.
I am starting to upgrade my system the specs are bellow. I would like to know if any other these Ram have been used before on the Neo2 Plat. and with what result?
Also is it worth upgrading or waiting? (cost per gain)?
Ram:
Mushkin XP PC4000 2GB 2X1GB DDR500 CL 3-4-3-8 184PIN DIMM Dual Channel Memory Kit
OCZ EL Gold GX XTC PC4000 2GB 2X1GB DDR500 CL3-4-3-8 184PIN Dual Channel Memory Kit
OCZ EL Platinum PC3200 2GB 2X1GB DDR400 CL2-3-2-5 184PIN Pin Dual Channel Memory Kit /W Ramsink
OCZ Gold EL PC4000 2GB 2X1GB DDR500 CL3-4-4-8 184PIN DIMM Dual Channel Memory Kit W/ Ramsink
System:
AMD 64 3200+ Veince w XP-90
MSI K8N Neo2 Plat. | 2x512mb Hynix BT 3500
200gb Seagate | ATI AIW x800 xt | SB Audigy Gamer
Many Thanks,
Sleepy
Well, I've been using the same RAM for about a week (see sig) - so far so good :D There doesn't seem to be any UCCC-specific modded BIOSes, though...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleepy Samurai
On a side note, has anyone had problems with fluctuating VCore on the Beta 1C3 BIOS? I'm having a helluva time getting mine stable. Right now I'm pushing 1.5 + 10%, which gives me "approximately" 1.65 in Windows, but setting it higher results in lower volts! :eek:
Actually, what I have in BIOS for voltage and what CPU-Z, MBM, Core Center etc. read in Windows are hardly ever the same, and usually on the low side. I'm 6h prime stable, which for my tastes is barely, but temps are okay despite the voltages. I'm hoping I can do with less voltage if I can get what I'm using more stable.
Could the issue be hardware, BIOS, or what? The PSU is an RMA replacement, if that means anything...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aoestein
NF4 and RD580 its possible yes.
Hey everybody, I saw some wierd stuff so i thought id report. WIERD BIOS OBSERVATIONS ON STOCK AND SIDEFFECT BIOS *********
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I was on the 1 c final , i got a 3700 and rushed it in my board forgot to clear bios. It corrupted and I couldnt get back in. I ordered another bios , put it in no problem. and got on the internet.
Flashed old bios to 1c final , tried to get on internet and could not. Also I had to enable the giga network to get windows to give me nvidia connection , and I needed the firewire on. Then I disable both in windows and go with the nvidia connection. Well on the old bios I get no connection to the internet even with a clear cmos command in dos! Windows gives me a no connect IP like my nic isnt working.
So ok the old bios chip got damaged everything else seems to work. Ill clear it and keep for emergency. Flashed to latest msi bios
I put new bios back in and get into windows and even get the internet ...ok
flash 1 c final and again I have to have the giga lan and firewire enabled in bios to get the nvidia connection . Fine I disable the others and then I get on the internet.
Since my mistake in haste. I am seeing the giga lan blurb when booting up and I believe a raid detect or ide raid check that is disabled. This happens with bios on old chip and new chip even with cmos cleared . My old bios originaly was 1 b and was winflashed to 1 c no problem. During that time I didnt see any raid check or the giga lan check during a boot up after post screen. SO that is wierd!!!
Anyway so far everything seems ok Im not overclocking yet though. I am preparing to get a raid o installed so I also thought this would be a good idea to put these observations up. Its wierd.
I too have been having very wierd things happen in my bios recently.
First off yesterday I couldn't boot windows at all, the bios wouldn't find my hard drives. So I reflashed the bios and everything was okay.
A short time later the same thing happened again. Then after I try to reboot I get the Realtek LAN message right before it should have booted into windows. I flashed again.
So far it has been okay but I wonder what is going on that keeps corrrupting my bios. I also randomly get the "Nvidia is searching for array" message even though I have disabled RAID in the bios.
What usually causes that type of behaviour?
I checked my battery and the voltage was at 2.79 volts which according to what I've read is okay.
The Bios in question is also "1C Final by sideeffect"
Any help from you experts would be great.
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Originally Posted by kbtat2
Im not sure if the stock replacement bios tried to detect an ide array or not. I think it did even though it was disabled and I had cmos cleared via a clrcmos.exe in dos. The realtek lan message is ok esp since you probly have that enabled. That is the bottom port in back. The top port is the nvidia port the one you should use. I am sure that I used to have the realtek disabled all the time and I didnt see this message but now I must have this giga lan enabled or windows wont give me the nvidia connection under network connections. THATS MY WIERD THING.
Tata2 what you see is probly normal. Even though its disabled it looks or we get the message , who knows if the board is actually looking. It maybe just because its a modded bios. I dont know
Some claim 500 ddr with the platinum rev 2 tccd but I couldnt do it with my venice 3200. I could do it but I would get various bsod for no reasons sometimes and memtest no problem. Went back down to 10 x 200 and problems went away 5 2 2 2 timings. Prime example of an overclock pushed too far.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleepy Samurai
I have a 3700 now and Im going to try again for 11x 250 x 4 mem at 500 ddr 1 t . 7 3 3 2.5
Are you sure that your MC was up to it? It would have to be an awfully crappy mem controller, but that might have been the problem. I really doubt that it could have been that you pushed the Venice too far. 2500mhz should have been no problem. What volts did you run? 2.7v would probably be the best setting, since that usually set ~2.78 on my Neo2.
And I'm not quite sure where your post fits in with his, since he's talking about 1gb sticks, which is impossible with TCCD. But whatever.
I want to blame the cpu cause I fear the memory being the probolem but it passed tests. 145 +8% and mem was 275 and shortly 2.8 im maxing that this time. The 3200 seems to run like a dream but the various bsods I was getting do relate to memory as the overall concensus.
I have had troubles with ram in the past and that is why I am asking.
One time I got some OCZ gold GX ram and it would not over clock past 200fsb. The ram worked fine on any other computer and OCZ swore the ram would work and offered to RMA it. I posted my results in a pervious post.
I seem to have troubles going over 200fsb with T1 timings. And have tried an number of things with no result.
I like the idea of PC4000 ram over the tight timings. I guess the only way to find out is to try it.
OCZ Gold EL PC4000 2GB 2X1GB DDR500 CL3-4-4-8 184PIN DIMM Dual Channel Memory Kit W/ Ramsink
or
Mushkin XP PC4000 2GB 2X1GB DDR500 CL 3-4-3-8 184PIN DIMM Dual Channel Memory Kit
Agr I hate making decisions with out full info. I think I will go with OCZ as I do not know Mushkin or if they are compatible. If only computers where easy...
Sleepy Samurai the new muskins are lookin sweet to me did you catch bachus's review http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...hlight=mushkin
They have CE-5 chips the old mushkins (wich I have, are CE-6 ) The mushkins are definitely compatible with my board. I havent got the pleasure of using OCZ yet but want to, either one should do fine. Also the gskill 2gb will be cheaper.
Get those new muskins and let us know how the do!:)
K just switched from Ballistix Z503's to G.Skill 2GBHZ's and without any tweaking been able to run same 265MHz, slightly loser 3,4,4,8 (from 3,3,3,8 with Z503's) but most noteably @ 1T (from 2T with Z503's)
and this is hours of BF2 STABLE which makes K H.A.P.P.Y. =D
tweaking to come soon =]
Hi to all...
2 SE,
Please can you make 1.8F mod with 1T fix but without changing memory
latency..., like NFM did.
I have RAID 0, and with newer bioses starting from 1.A to 1.D have anoyng
problems like (comp don't want to boot at all, can't detect hdd's, can't load
windows...), tryed every bios available but no one works OK exept 1.8F and
older. I see that other users on this forum who have RAID 0 have same
problems..., and it's obvious that older bioses work better for us with RAID 0.
With NFM 1.8R3 works OK, but memory latency's are to tight, and bios
suffers from 2T. Don't know if "san diego edition" can work ok to...
PLEASE save us...
Hi PURE MCSE,
I use 180NFM(Rev.3)1T The Sandiego edition which forces 1T
and found it to be one of the most stable and have ideal timings for
my G.Skill HZ which I run at 270 2.6v 3,4,3,6 1T. With some of the newer bioses when i overclocked(low overclocks) sometimes my raid array would be lost so i would have to reset cmos and start again which just got annoying in the end so I switched back to NFM's bios and never looked back.
By the way what memory are you running?
HI HeamothoraxUK
I use Infineon 2 x 512 PC3200.... stable until 235 at 1:1.
I was afraid to flash becouse the core is not San Diego but VENICE...
I used NFM 1.8r3/2T standard edition and it worked ok. NEVER had RAID problems at all.
The "THING" that bother's me with NFM bios is memory latency...
Factory default latency: TRRD(2), TRWT(4), TWR(3)..., NFM bios set them to be TRRD(3), TRWT(2),
TWR (2), everything worked so far without a single eror but I think it's to tight for my memory...(maybe I
am wrong...). I dont know what's the difference between NFM 1.8r3/2t standard edition
and NFM 1.8r3/1t San Diego edition, is the diffrenece only 1t/2t fix or there is something more...
- Is it safe to flash San Diego edition for VENICE core...
Thanks...
HI PURE MCSE,
I'm almost sure venice is supported natively by pre 1.8 bioses
it was only the sandiego which was not so you should be ok. If you want extra voltage on your chip try the 1.36 or 1.37 modded bioses.
Hi PURE MCSE,
Just had a quick scan through this thread you should be alright
with 1.36Mod and upwards I don't know if there are any 1T 2T issues but avoid 1.52Mod as it doesn't work and will trash your board. Good luck.