What's the best way to increase voltage in this board? The startup vid or the x.x% option? or both?
What would be a safe vcore for a 3000+ winnie cooled by a Zalman 7000A-AlCu?
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What's the best way to increase voltage in this board? The startup vid or the x.x% option? or both?
What would be a safe vcore for a 3000+ winnie cooled by a Zalman 7000A-AlCu?
It's going to be T&E I'm afraid.Quote:
You seem a pretty knowledgeable bloke, any ideas on the best bios for Ballistix PC 4000?
In the sticky (first post in this thread) it states does not like OCZ EB ram.
Many find that the case, and then you see someone hitting 270+ FSB with it, but others seem to get stuck @ 221.
Now if you read here, the chips on the Ballistics are more or less the same as those on the OCZ, so yours might OC well, or it might not.
Note here..
3700 EB and msi k8n neo2 ?
The EB does work on this board in most cases but some people have had troubles. The problem wasn't with the board itself but had to do with the CPU and the memory controller. If you get the combo and it doesn't work out we will help you get everything going
So it may well be that your ram will like your CPU or it won't.
The ram that seems to fly on this board is the Samsung TCCD chips. (G.Skill etc), but you may well be lucky with your Ballistics.
The EB likes volts, so maybe the 1.36 beta.
You got plenty to choose from ;)
Cheers split, a bit slow but just worked out that it's you on OcUK as well, hehe. I'm Kendo on those forums. I'll give the 1.36 a go, got my bios saviour installed so trial and error should be pretty painless now.
I think my board has died suddenly.
It was working all fine and i decided to put some hds in it ... afterwards the pc booted but the screen wouldn jump on.
Zo i booted without HD but no effect. Then with another graka... nope.
Other memory ??? Nope...
So could it be the motherboard ? Or what can it be ?
what is the best bios for the neo2 right now ? i will get my neo2 and a new winnie 3000+ (pretested on an asus a8v @ 2600 mhz @ 1.55 vcore) i will use my adata vitesta 4000.
If you need volts, stick with the 1.36.
Someone over here tested some with a DMM, and it seems that some revert to 1.4V when taken past +10% Set.
Best for volts is WE7025NMS.136
+13% Set; Measures 1.64V
+15% Set; Measures 1.7V
+18.3% Set; Measures 1.74V
i think i wont go really higher than 1.65 vcore , the most important would be the most stable oc bios.
what is to say about the temp reading is it correct ?
Does anyone have problems with their Firewall? I dont really use it, but when i installed it it gave me all kinds of weird errors.
Hey IcEMaN666,
To answer your question... yes, I have the cold issue with Winchesters, big time.
I have tried two Winchesters with various bios's with no luck.
I returned my board and cpu and now I'm shopping for replacements.
I am really struggling to figure out what to do. I have a very nice 6800gt and so I'm not excited to move to the DFI nForce4 board. It seems like the nForce3's are hard to find (at least the Neo Platinum2's).
I want to run it with my new LightSpeed. But it seems weird. The Winchesters don't like the cold, but run almost as fast as the Newcastles on stock air cooling. So do I park the LS and stay on air, or camp where I am at for now (754 pin, 3200+ on air at 2.4ghz) and hope the vendors figure out the root-cause to the cold issue.
Oh, what to do?
Karl
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Originally Posted by Karl Norris
I would try another Neo2. None of my three Winnies have problems with beeing cold. Ive tested week 0445, 0447 and 0450, and they love the cold.
My MSI is a 0411 (November batch). No matter what BIOS i run it works just fine with -50c on evap. No problems what so ever.
Hey Formann,
I guess I will.
My last board was from Newegg.com and should have been a new one, but perhaps not.
They are outof stock right now, when they restock I will order.
Karl
guys quick question....
whats the best BIOS for using UTT?
quick answer: In my case NON!
I've tried EVERY bios I could find, won't even post with 2x512 UTT's. Same CPU, same UTT's did 255 HTT 1:1 on MSI K8T Neo2, but K8N.. no way. I'm stuck with my 2x256 BH-5's. I really would need a gig of mem :(
Hey all,
Against my better judgement I ordered a new Neo2 and Winchester 3500+ (retail) today.
Wish me luck.
What are the opinions on the best BIOS to use with the LightSpeed? 1.5x or 1.51?
Can I flash bios while under the phase cooler or should I do first when on air cooling? (Given the cold glitch...)
I'm thinking that I'll run it in for a while on air cooling. Flash the bios, run it some more, and then move it over to the cold... :D.
Any thoughts are greatly appreciated!
Karl
Bios 1.5x worked well for me with my LS.
Damn IT!!! Got a Vapo PE & Vapo Classic yet they're both sitting there gathering dust now that I've got 3200/3500 Winnies:mad::mad:...
Both are 0451 CBBID models, can't remember the other letters but they're not that bad on air.... Well, the 3500+ can do 2.6GHz & the 3200+ can do 2.5Ghz... That's a lot better than the last few I've had....
Suckers just won't do the right thing under sub-zero temps... I've been through 3 x 3200+ & 3 x 3500+ (2 x NC 1 x Winnie) & they all suck hard with sub-zero cooling & K8N neo2...
I've also been through 5 x K8N Neo2's & only 1 of them has been good so far... It's a 0437 model... The others just plain suck...
2 x 0420 & 2 x 0410 K8N Neo2...
Back to watercooling for my main rig & aircooling for my secondary rig...
Even with the 1.5x series bios it doesn't help one bit... P.O.S...IMO...Well, 4 of the Neo2's I've had are anyways...
One UnHappy OverClocker :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
Minnyboy
BTW: MSI should have had the solution fixed by now with a bios update considering many ppl with K8N Neo2's are at the top of the ORB.... Well a month or 2 back...
Hey Minnyboy,
Sorry to hear of your frustration.
One fellow who was stuck flashed back and forth to 1.5x a couple times and got his system to work. No idea why. A triple-flash workaround.
It's such a pain to pull everything apart to build-up phase cooler only to have it lock-up or reset with the cold glitch.
I think he was flashing with the phase cooler from a bootable cdrom... can't find the link right now...
EDITED: Here it is: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...3&page=1&pp=25
Karl
Hi some time ago there was a great walkthrough on installing xp on the msi neo2, I have spent the last 4 hours trying to find it, there were links from Ocuk to this site but every link just takes me to the first page it no longer takes me to the bit I'm looking for.
I can't remember who wrote it but I think his avatar began with ( R ) it was a very thorough guide which made it virtually impossible to not get it right.
I'm needing it as I have 2 x sata drives which I want to run xp on one and put programs on the other, I had managed to do it but can't remember how, my mate came round and in his wisdom played with my bios then it said something like no operating system, I disconected the drive with my programs on then the remaining drive with xp on it works fine, I have tried various options but it no longer works with the 2 drives.
I know less than nothing about raid so I'm a bit stuck to say the least.
If someone knows where the thread is I would be pleased to death.
Cheers.
I've just tried a 200:133 divisor, this mobo is insane :eek:
http://img58.exs.cx/img58/1277/391fsb4mi.th.jpg
Any mod there.
Does anybody now why I can do 391Mhz with clockgen but If I set 285Mhz or higher in the BIOS it doesn't boot?
What's the max voltage that i can obtain with ocz ddr booster ?
3.4-3.5v any higher and it wont post although you can bump the voltage up afterwards and it works fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by vkbms
sorry but i can't understand english very well....if i put voltage higher than 3.5v mobo doesn't start? If during post i'll put 3.4v and after i increase the voltage works fine?.... please explain me... 10x....Quote:
Originally Posted by Cossey
Actually, in my case I experience this quite further... Maximum "bootable" vdimm I get using DDR Booster is 3.9v (I set it while sitting on the BIOS screen). After setting it to 4.0v the system boots but can't load Windows.Quote:
Originally Posted by vkbms
Yes, just find your maximum too... Set e.g. 3.4v while in BIOS and then when you're in Windows you are free to raise it higher ;) Be careful....
Good luck
thanks 4 the explanation..... my bh5 are very happy of this reply :banana: ...Quote:
Originally Posted by bachus_anonym
Hey bachus_anonym,
Thanks for the tip... my board and booster is on order.
I have 2x512MB OCZ 3200 LL Platinum 2 memory. What's a safe voltage without direct ventilation in a well ventilated case? I had heard 3.1vdc.
Karl