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Is vdroop only between idle and load? The thing with my board is that if I set 1.375v, it's only 1.328v at idle and 1.312v at load. The droop between idle and load isn't bad but the actual setting is way higher than either. I'm guessing this isn't droop right? You may say that this isn't a real problem, but I've found that 1.6v is unstable and isn't actually 1.6v at all, so my limit is whatever the highest 1.5v is and that is actually around 1.50v idle 1.49v max.
Yeah i don't have that problem, if in bios i set 1.40v its going to be 1.4v in idle but then i get 1.3v under load. So you have something else. Can't imagine it though you setting 1.6v and in reality its only 1.5v, also wouldn't know if vdroop mod works to fix it. If you get that pencil its very easy to do it + its very easy to take it back of. You have awesome overclock btw 8x450 sounds really good :) good luck
Is it odd that my E6300 & DS3 Rev 2.0 combo will do 3.2ghz with stock volts but isn't stable at 3.5ghz even with 1.45v? I can boot at 3.5 and everything but Orthos goes red within a few minutes or the entire machine freezes. Any suggestions?
How bout your ram? enough voltage to feed it?Quote:
Originally Posted by HeadOn
He might also need more vCore to reach 3.5. I need up to 1.55v to reach it. It's way too much for such a small gain. YMMV though.Quote:
Originally Posted by laziepig
when a chip gets close to hitting its wall it happens fast, and big jumps in voltage start to result in very small frequency increases.Quote:
Is it odd that my E6300 & DS3 Rev 2.0 combo will do 3.2ghz with stock volts but isn't stable at 3.5ghz even with 1.45v? I can boot at 3.5 and everything but Orthos goes red within a few minutes or the entire machine freezes. Any suggestions?
For me the F9 BIOS has been a great improvement! :up:
Previously I was using the F4 that was on the board from the start and couldn't go above 316MHz FSB or 2600MHz CPU. :mad:
But yesterday I finally fired up the machine again and flashed to F9. Loaded optimized defaults after reboot.
Then in windows I just began upping the FSB with SetFSB and hit 340x9 ~3060MHz with all voltages at default. I had changed back to Intel stock cooler and core temp was showing 79C under load so I didn't want to push the CPU further just now...
Ran Orthos blend for 2 hours without a hitch. Then rebooted and set the multi to 6x and mem ratio to 1:1 and went into windows again.
Pushed the FSB right up to 400MHz and it was still Orthos stable.
Though when I tried 420 it rebooted. So I upped FSB and MCH +0.1V and now it's been running Orthos at 6x410 for almost an hour without problems.
I'll let it run for another hour before I go up a bit more!
I'm sure a happy camper now after thinking I'd gotten the worlds worst DS3 or E6600! :toast: :woot:
Gigabyte GA-965P-S3 power: http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/7...em25055pt2.jpg :toast:
Alright by no means stable, S3 F7 BIOS really improved my max benchstable CPU speed.
S3 F7 BIOS gave me ~100MHz more. :clap:
Is your board C1 or C2 rev?Quote:
Originally Posted by OnLine
wondering if i can pass the 446FSB with my DS3 , im using the 680I now and no way i can pass 446fsb, im tempting on switch everthing t the DS3 and try with the new bios
Rev. C2, don't know if it makes a difference but I've had kind of luck with a kit of Crucial DDR2 Tenth Anniversary PC5300 mem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rudyn
The funny part, 9x425(+) 1:1 is a no go, but 4:5 will work! :stick:
fyi i can get to 454 stable for 2+ hours prime95 and still running over weekend at work. hopefully will be good come monday. that's using the f5 bios. will boot at 458 but def not stable. ram is 1:1 as f5 has issues with d9 mem @ high speeds which i have. with f8 or f9 bios i can hit same high speeds but have cold boot issues, no cold boot prob with f5. board is c2, which next to c1 has ruled. funny, i've got a 650i board on way to compare and you're looking at going the other way! i'm also on air, hope this helps.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ajfina
I have S3 C1, could not get past 450FSB on any bios prior to F7(S3) and now can actually post at 480 (stable 475).Quote:
Originally Posted by Rudyn
with f9 I still have cold boot issues. however, i have less when i set my pci-e to 102. :cool:
Updated sig with specs and what would you guys put as the highest vcore for 3.5ghz?
1:1 nb needs more volts to stay stable iirc so you could fix that with a gmch mod :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by OnLine
I can't get my oc settings to hold after updating the bios to F9 (or back to F7 for that matter). It just resets back to default clocks for my e6300... Can someone tell me the procedure that they used to update and then oc?
Do I have to put everything at 'optimized defaults' then update the bios, shut down, boot to new bios then put my oc settings in, then shut down and boot?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hamilton
Are you insane??! 79C underload is gonna burn out that CPU fast. Intel C2D chips throttle at 85c...that means they throttle it because it reached it MAX temp already.. lol The most you want is to hover around 60c underload
Yep, could be.Quote:
Originally Posted by MartianInvader
+0.3V V(g)mch probably doesn't cut it with a 9x multi at 425(+) 1:1 while 7/8 x 425(+) 1:1 def will work.
I don't think I'll do such a mod though, because 9 x 425(+) 4:5 is actually a bit faster than 9 x 425(+) 1:1.
Maybe not in Super PI 1M but in anything else, that is 3Dmark benches, WinRAR & Super PI 32M etc ...
I did a Super PI 32M at 4.0GHz and it gave me:
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/2...2505za3.th.jpg
Don't really know if that's good though, maybe I975X mobo's are a lot faster!? :stick:
:)
That's why I lowered the multiplier to 6x so I could continue upping the FSB to find its limit! :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by markopoleo
When I put the Scythe Infinity back on I'll continue to push the CPU since it held load temps around 56C!
Flashed my S3 to the F7 bios and have the board stable so far at 523 with 1.51v (1.47v w/ droop), +.1 vFSB, vMCH +.3.
With the F6 bios the board didn't respond to vcore increases above 1.5v and my FSB ceiling was 515 no matter what.
Could someone post some pictures of the Scythe SCINF-1000 on the DS3 to show the distance it is neat the Ram? Should I have any problems with it on this motherboard?
Prob going to order one this week to replace intel HSF..
What kind of cooling are you using with that setup? And what are the temps using TAT with the high voltage?Quote:
Flashed my S3 to the F7 bios and have the board stable so far at 523 with 1.51v (1.47v w/ droop), +.1 vFSB, vMCH +.3.
With the F6 bios the board didn't respond to vcore increases above 1.5v and my FSB ceiling was 515 no matter what.
I was using a Scythe Infinity on my DS3 but I've temporarily replaced it with the Intel HSF.Quote:
Originally Posted by markopoleo
With the Infinity I was using the fan on the side towards the ram and I couldn't use my Corsair Dominators in the first slot.
But if you have some memory with a lower profile it should be fine.
More or less finalized my water cooling setup last night. Will snap pics sometime. But still, $300 later, I'm not really able to do that much better. 3.5ghz can be had stably now, with temps at 65'c compared to near 80'c before. Overall, system is much quieter, although I'm still wanting to go 7v mod on my fans, but they overload the psu for some reason once I have more than 2 fans 7v'ed.
Still running 7x466=3266 as a daily setup currently because it seems to have less of a cold boot issue. 7x500 doesn't even post half the time for some reason, but when it does, it is stable with lots of vcore.
Also, since going watercooling, I've lost 20mhz in video ram. Hmm
update: hmm picked up 40mhz free on the video card :)
Congrats on the water setup, how quiet is it comparing to your previous setup? You have any internal fans cooling your vid card ram? or N/S bridges?
Thanks. I've currently got 4 fans on the dual rad doing push/pull. There's a 120mm in the back exhaust, along with 120mm going into the psu and out the back. I'm planning on adding a quiet 80mm to the side when I find one. I've got an 80 up front as well.
I think I'm flashing back to F7 tonight. I set up the thing on orthos and atitool artifact finder. Then I left to get dinner. When I came back, it was a black screen and power cycling isn't bringing it back to life. This happened to me a ton of times since going to F9, and usually it's a combination of unseating video card / clearing cmos that finally brings it back. Really irritating
I've been following these threads and trying various combinations of bios settings.
I am and have been stable (DS3) at 3.2 = 400 x 8 with 800 4-4-4-12 ram with an E6600. FSB settings below 400 boot fine (mostly), but the overall performance is worse so they're useless (or not optimal).
However, I can't get any settings to hold after cold boot above 400 fsb (the monitor is not even recognized). Very frustrating. I also have not learned anything definitive on the internet or from Gigabyte to resolve this situation.
I'm just about ready to give up and use the above settings, and/or I may return the board for a replacement; maybe Asus. I also may wait a few months and buy a new board after more bugs have been workded out of the 965's. Maybe the "true" Quad compatible boards will fair better.
I don't know why this board does not overclock successfully over 400 (with a cold boot) with, what appears to be, perfectly acceptable settings. How rediculous that this "Gaming/performance" board, and probably lots of other 965 boards, are so difficult. You also gotta love the "mystery" surrounding each bios release. Why can't Gigabyte communicate how to use the bios, or at least explain how they are designed and work. Where's the documentation!! But no, we have to do all the testing based on guess work and observation; Re-boot, re-boot, reboot.
Here's my guess; the current NB and/or SB 965 chipsets sucks for extreme overclocking with the C2D's. I think Gigabyte and others are trying their best to resove the situation created by the intel 965chipset. Perhaps Nvidia, who also has (other) reported problems, will resolve this issue for me and Intel. I have been enjoying the overclocking adventure up to now, but enough is enough.
Sorry about the rant.
-- Let me add, I am aware of most of the usual suspects for this dilema (voltage, ram latency, strap, etc.). However, this knowledge is useless if the computer doesn't boot/post to the bios.
Well that's it folks. I think I'm going away as well like dnottis and so many others
I was debating between the biostar and the ds3. Boy what a mistake it was. With F9, I've had a ton of times when it'd lock up in windows, and on a reboot, I'd be greeted with a blank screen. No POST or anything. No on/off loops like traditional problems. Resetting cmos doesn't even fix it. It usually involves pulling video card / ram / cpu for it to start beeping and then work again. And no it's not something shorting out since it was on the bench when it first started happening, which was also when I first went to F9.
I was intending to go back to F7 tonight but I just can't get it to post. And now it flashed once saying something about no cmos, but now it's back to nothing again. I don't have a working floppy drive nor any floppies so I wouldn't be able to do anything anyway. Good grief
Not sure where to go now. I kind of wanted parallel and serial ports. Thing with the biostar is I need to buy a port to plug into the leads on the board.
Quote:
Originally Posted by dekruyter
Not much point posting any comment unless you post "full" details of your Overclock.
Ranting is not helpful
Official News from Gigabyte :
Description of S3 F7/DS3 F9/DS4 F7/DQ6 F8 now Updated
we have confirmed with our product manager that "FSB 1333 MHz support" this is only for PCB 3.3 or newer. Therefore, your M/B does not support with FSB1333MHz. This issue already forward to the related department and will revise the information on our web site. Sorry for the inconvenience.Quote:
Update CPU ID
FSB 1333 MHz support for rev 3.3 only
By the way, so far, our engineer is trying to release BIOS to support with using USB flash disk. However, it is not yet available for all models. If you cannot use it, then we will suggest you to use floppy disk with Q-Flash tool or @BIOS tool in Windows
Sofar my DS4 is doing ok, not great like my P5B deluxe but OK. I can do 432FSB stable where I got 485FSB stable from P5B deluxe.
My main concern is Sata Hard drives crashing. It seems like they are losing power and then spinning back up. I need to switch the machine off a few times to get them working again.
Is this the SATA issue people are talking about in this thread?
whoa that's kind of scary. I must have missed the "sata issue" never really had any problems. The only issue I have with the hdd is that the motherboard likes to cycle up and down nonstop until I intervene, and in each time, it brings the hdd up and down.
Kind of wish it was still going up and down though. It's just dead. Going to pull it out and put it on the bench one last time and if it doesn't work, time to rma. Good grief. F9 did me in I swear to god. Probably just me though
Yes my drive starts making a squeecky noise, spins up and down then bluescreens windows.
This have not happened in the last few days though. I threw out my previous 2 drives because i thougth they had failed only to realise that my brand new drive is doing the same.
I have not tried it without an overclock yet but Im seriously starting to think to leave this machine at stock and end the problems. I dont need the performance of an overclocked system, I prefer stability. My E6700 is fast enough on stock speed.
johann what psu are you using? no problem for me with cm450w...
What does it mean? My DS4 is rev 1.0, but, where i can find PCB revision?Quote:
Originally Posted by HamidFULL
sounds like your power supply is starting to fail. Try and borrow an ampmeter and measure the voltage coming out of the power plug that connects to your hard drive. Make sure it's a full 12v constantly.Quote:
Originally Posted by ziddey
cheers
Wow I really think I dodged a bullet here.
I installed F9, and it sucked. The first boot my o/c settings where reset. Everytime I would re-do my o/c, there was like a 50/50 chance I'd get into Windows. So I said f-it and downloaded F7, put it on a floppy and flashed. Done. The cpu then started to power cycle on and off, and I'm just sitting there thinking "what the hell did those F9 bios do to my computer". I ended taking out the video card, pulling a jumper off the back of an optical drive, and inserting it to clear the cmos. Left it there for about 20 seconds, soon as I pulled it off the computer turned on (no video card), but the thing wasn't power cycling so that was a good thing. Reseated the video card and it works fine now. Back to F7. But now I'm reading of people who cleared their cmos and still get power cycling (maybe it was because I flashed back to F7 first, and then had to clear?)
I'm done updating, F7 works perfectly fine (unless a new update comes up that allows vdimm to go up +.05V - but even then I'm waiting for like a good 2-3 weeks and reading everyone else's results before I even touch the thing).
What means?Quote:
Originally Posted by HamidFULL
Yikes, I was about to do a rma with newegg for my ds3 but found out they have it as out of stock. I wanted to just get something else but didn't want to fork up 15% for restocking fee, especially on a failed motherboard. But then I noticed the p5b plain is actually cheaper than the ds3. Anyone have any opinions on that thing? I know vdimm is limited to something like 2.1v?
does anyone khow what it means?Quote:
FSB 1333 MHz support for rev 3.3 only
means official support for 1333fsb cpu's whatever those are in rev3.3. So far we've only seen rev1 and rev2 though. Maybe something new is amongst us.
Rev 3.3 mobo?...you gotta be kidding?...they've only JUST released rev 2.0 boards. Man i spent the last week with big problems on my fresh build...where are these 3.3 boards?
PCB revision 3.3 not board revision 3.3
Hey Rich, what problems you been having? Ain't heard from you in ages!Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dower
Let's say how we identify our mobo PCB rev.? is it printed on the box or the mobo itself?
Bottom left on the board!Quote:
Originally Posted by laziepig
My S3 has Rev. 1.0 printed.
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/8...965ps3aio3.jpg
:)
I've just had my first cold boot/reset to stock with F9... on a mild overclock 400 x 7 (was running 450 x 7 with F7)....
Back to F7 for good.
What is the current 'best' overclocking board? Is it still the P5B Dlx? Been out of the loop for about 6 weeks.
I don't know if this makes any sense but my cold boot and OC dissapearing issues went away after cooling the NB properly (F9 bios).
After installing the infinity and cutting some holes for 3 more fans here are some results after tinkering this weekend. With the infinity and 2 80cfm 120mm fans in push pull config I get a max load temp of 58c. I need to update my sig, but I'm running at 3500mhz 500fsb 1:1 4-4-4-12 timings. I used to be able to post at 532fsb with ds3 f8i, but I never left it that high because I didn't have adequate cooling, then I updated to f7. Now I can't get higher than 517fsb no matter what. and even then it isn't stable. My current settings are rock stable and thats what I'll run 24/7, but I want it to run higher (100% overclock goal). The highest I've been able to bench it at is the 517fsb or 3620mhz. I think I have a vdroop problem at any voltage above 1.475v. I'm also not sure if the nb is getting too hot, but I have a fan blowing directly down on to it from outside my case. I'll try one on the inside and see if it helps. I don't have any cold boot issues. I don't really have any of the issues you guys have. The only weird thing I've noticed is when I have 4-4-4-12 timings my fsb drops lower than what I set it at. I set it at 500 in BIOS, it says 499 when I boot up. 501 is the same. 519 is 517 and so on. When timings are 5-5-5-15 it is fine until above 517. Whats up with that? I'm thinking about going back to f8i just to see if my overclock might be better.
Just saw it on Gigabyte site
Man , this ds4 drives me crazy! Whatever i did (tried all multis , changed all type of voltages, tested ALL shorts of bios ,upping pci-e freq, swaped memory slots) i can't go over 425 fsb.I am stable at 425x8 but 430 is a no go, tested with easytune and setfsb.Bios won't let me boot above 420.Tested my memory with 4:5 divider (2.50 bios) at 400fsb (1000mhz memory) and is perfectly stable. So what's holding me back? Is possible that my 6400 stops at 428 even with 6x multi? Is my ds4 a :banana: ? I suspect my psu
too.I don't like its rails.
maybe, maybe not, my first 6300 wouldn't go past 404fsb no matter what. Swiched out the cpu to a diffirent 6300 and it will post at 532fsb. Go figure. Some chips are just fsb limited, its kinda the luck of the draw..Quote:
Originally Posted by mellodos
So it seems that i'm luck limited :( (and money too!)Quote:
Originally Posted by PanteraGSTK
Try turning up the voltage more, your psu might be holding you back, but who knows...What are your mch fsb and pcie voltages?Quote:
Originally Posted by mellodos
New DS4 (Rev1.0 and Rev2.0) BIOS NOW Available F8 : (2007/01/08)
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/M...ProductID=2288
New Future :
Enhance FSB frequency flexibility
OC Fix for Allendale
New DS3P (Rev 2.0) BIOS NOW Available F4 : (2007/01/08)
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/M...ProductID=2418
New Future :
Enhance FSB frequency flexibility
OC Fix for Allendale
would like to see F9 for DQ6 with enhanced FSB frequency flexibility too :/
^^ yeah same ;)
S3 and DS3 too...Quote:
Originally Posted by eXceededgoku
Hey "Exceededgoku",
I see you also have the e6600 at 3.2 using 400 x 8;
But, your Vcore seems high, or is this the absolute minimum you needed to stay at 3.2.
I'm using a Vcore of 1.36875 and mine is stable. Just thought you'd like to see what others have got or are doing. I have the DS3 rev. 1.0.
Mark
P.S. I'm also curious about your core temps; mine are 49-52 with no load, and 56-59 load. If I use TAT and 100% useage, they get up to 60-61c (Zalman 9700 AT).
1.35V in bios for my E6600 to run at 400x8 stable.Quote:
Originally Posted by dekruyter
E6600s released today I'm sure could do it at around 1.30V or so.
im running B2 E6600 400x8 at default vid (1,2375V) load @ 1,20V, too bad it gets frigging hot at 400x9 1,4v. difference is 20C in orthos load compared to 3.2ghz, too much for my taste for 10% more performanceQuote:
Originally Posted by NJDevilsFan21
How come S3 BIOS never get updated :( . The latest one is still F7, and I'm still using F6. Although I never had any prob with it.
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/M...ame=GA-965P-S3
S3 F7 = DS3 F9
Also, I think that if you remove the sticker on the rev2 ds3 that says "ds3" it'll actually say s3. Maybe I'll peel it
Mine IS a newer E6600; L632A734 / pack date 11/28/06Quote:
Originally Posted by NJDevilsFan21
And it needs 1.36875 vcore, and +0.2 mch to be 100% stable and no cold boot or other problems. I've tried dropping the vcore less than 1.36, and you get irratic/inconsistent checks with Orthos.
What do others use for voltage (mch, etc.)
AND, per above, I don't think the "default vid (1,2375V)" mentioned is the default voltage for the E6600; I believe it's 1.325!
check it out. Just removed the sticker off my rev2 ds3. guess i was wrong. not s3 but ds3-e??
What the H@ll is a DS3-E?
I tested several times with all the possible combinations of voltages but maxed or not , 425+ is a dream for me.The only voltage i can't push to max is mch.Bios won't boot above +0.60 .But what's the point of pushing it , i don't need above +0.10 for 425 anyway.I noticed that if i push vfsb and vmch above +0.20 , some games become unstable.Quote:
Originally Posted by PanteraGSTK
Tried the new bios, 425 ok , 426 no go :nono:.
have you tried using the auto voltage setting and seeing where you can go
c2ds have dfferent default vcores, most common is 1.325 ofc but some "B" chips have lower default vid like 1.2375, 1.25, 1.2625, 1.275 etc. its about luck i guessQuote:
Originally Posted by dekruyter
im running +0.1v on fsb and mch at 400x8
How/where do I find the core rating??
I did go into Sandra and there is core voltage rating of 1.212?????
Is this the rating? Or is it on the box; mine just says max 1.35 on the box.
If my rating is 1.2.1, then 1.36 is too high maybe, and I should do more testing now?
Hamid - Thankyou for the link to the F8 DS4 BIOS. I have downloaded it and following testing i think its the best DS4 BIOS yet.
IT has improved my stable overclock a little (to 440x8) (E6600) and has reduced the amount of voltage on the chipset i need to run 420x8 24/7. Seems to be the most stable of all BIOSes ive tried, definitley the best for me since F5C.
My complements to Gigabyte - keep the BIOSes coming!
Basically atm I can't really be asked to be overclocking accurately until my watercooling stuff is sorted out (since i need help on building it cos im a noob and leaked everywhere last weekend when i tried lol) then I'll start seriously overclocking. Core temps are 52-56oC with no load and around 69-72oC load perhaps a bit more. This is all sitting inside a TJ07-B being aircooled with an arctic cooler freezer 7 pro. I am sitting on 1.51875 or soemthing like that currently because I have only got 2 case fans and so it gets quite hot (ala the above temps)Quote:
Originally Posted by dekruyter
Of course but with the same results , 425 max.Consider that this o/c is possible only through easytune or setfsb.Bios stops at 419 and 395+ gives cold boot after shut down-power on.Quote:
Originally Posted by ziddey
BIOS or Core Temp will show your CPU VID.Quote:
Originally Posted by dekruyter
Thanks man, I just found that out; used core temp.
Mine is 1.325.
In any event, i'm checking to see if I can run 3.2 with less voltage; so far, looks like I can; running orthos as I type this with 2 notches more below 1.36875.
I'll tell ya, Sandra 2007 sure gives you some screwy numbers.
UPDATE:
At 400 x 8 = 3.2; mch +0.2, it seems I can now lower the E6600 voltage all the way down to "NORMAL", which, thanks to this forum, I now know is 1.325.
I don't understand this at all, because yesterday I thought 1.3687 was the lowest I could go. Do these things very from day to day? Maybe I can drop the Vcore now because the computer/motherboard is warmed up, or maybe because the MCH is moved up, everthing is more stable. I don't really get it.
This is a good example how a "noobie" overclocking, and I obviously I include myself, can really get things wrong. I could have been running this e6600 at higher volts and temps, for nothing!!
M
Well, I'm a happy camper. Something let go in this bios while playing around, and I'm very stable and fast at:
400 x 8 = 3.2; stock voltage = 1.325, mch = +0.2, and the temps are increadibly great. I'm happy with this and going to use it for some time now while I enjoy my new build - first one.
Silverstone tj09 (black w/ window)
Thermaltake 850 watt
Zalman 9700 AT
DS3 rev 1
G.Skill 2gb; 800 4-4-4-12; 1:1
Sound Blaster Fatal1ty Extreme gamer
8800 gts !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
etc., etc., etc., oh, and a nice 22" Samsung
AND, when I get back in the mood; all I'll need to do is up the multiplier to 9x, adjust voltage and pray for 3.6 with air/Z. 9700 AT
Sandra and Everest scores looking good. And sorry Gigabyte, you didn't make this that easy! Shame on you.
The DQ6 rev 2.0 has many differences on the PCB, the layout looks the same from a distance, but close up examining the various resistors/transistors/inductors/coils and stuff on the actual PCB it's rather different, things have been moved about, things added and replaced. The capacitors around the CPU area have been changed and are higher end.
The "crazycool" backplate is different in that rev 1.0 had a spongy pad that secured it to the back of the PCB, it was rather thick...but the new one "hugs" the PCB better, it's closer to the back of the PCB.
One thing i noticed was the bios flash chips on rev 2.0 are different, different chips used...rev 2.0 flashes much faster.
The Marvel 8056 (not 8053 as on rev 1.0) is 0628, ITE = 0632, JMicron = 0626, ICS = 0632.
I had problems with the new OCZ 850W PSU, the first one was making some crazy high pitched noise and the rails were very high, i RMA'd it...but the replacement is no better.
It's a very noisy PSU, noise is coming from within the PSU, it's from the coils/indcutors/electrical noise.
It's weird because when i run Orthos and put it under load it stops?...even under load the rails are very high.
On idle it's 12.65V on the 12V rails while the 5V rail is 4.88V, i'm still consulting with OCZ about this, compared to my near silent 700W OCZ this one is really noisy, and i don't understand why.
The actual build went ok, i'll throw up screenies later, it's C2 stepping on the P965 chipset...also, the coil/inductor noise noted when doing stress testing?...it seems to be gone with rev 2.0
I don't hear any coil nouse when running Orthos...more observations as i think of them.
read the dates....Quote:
Originally Posted by Rudyn
Same results for me on the S3 with F9 bios... Problem can't be the board, it is obviously the power supply. RMA'ed my 600W Kingwin a month and a half ago and still haven't got it back. My coolermaster 430W 19A 12V is being pushed to its limit... 12V drops all the way down to 11.60-11.63v under full load and 11.71-11.74v idle. Going to try to do a Dual PSU setup for now and run my WCing kit and drives on the 2nd PSU. I've got 3 drives, WCing kit, 7600GT XXX edition, 80mm fan over the NB and of course the cpu all running off that tiny 19A rail... 3 Drives = 4-5A, WCing kit = 1.5-2.0A so that could propel my OC past 415...
Again what psu are you using? any raid configure on your rig? please tell us ur voltage settings.Quote:
Originally Posted by mellodos
:fact: Uhhhh dude, 11.6 volts is only 3% low - well within acceptable limits. The CPU power supply on your motherboard should handle that jes` fine. Try looking somewhere else - you've already changed power supplies once.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hutch
The kingwin PSU died they day before I got the S3... 455mhz FSB at full 8x multiplier was done on my P5W DH with all of the same components (ram, cpu, wcing ect.) Only difference was the board and the psu... The 455mhz fsb was clearly only held back by the board and possibley the ram..
Although 11.6v is still well within Intel specs (11.4v is the minimum...) it still can cause instability. 5V rail doesn't move more than +/- .01v (5.08-5.09v..)
Also gotta remember about ripple, which of course I can't measure...
Hey all I have a DQ6 REV 1 C1 F7 BIOS with a Intel Core2 Quad QX6700 a artic silver 5'd Ninja heatsink w/ scythe 1600rpm fan and Mushkin RedLine XP8000 (2x 1GB)memory all stuffed into a P180 case. Everyfan in the thing is a Scythe 1600 rpm fan all controlled by a hardcano 13 fan controller. Other goodies include 2x 150GB raptors 4x300GB 7200.7s, 2 plextor DVD burners, X-FI fatality, ATI HD Wonder, Radeon X1900XTX 512M, Enermax 850 galaxy power supply.
Anyhow
Under full load running 2 instances of Orthos 2 of the 4 cores hit 76C the other 2 hit 72C or so says core temp94
CPU-Z says I m running the memory 3:5 at 445Mhz
I m running the dimm voltage at +0.2 and the memory at 4-5-4-11
I can run Orthos 12 hours without a problem. Memtest results are the same. No problems at all.
BUT..........
Some actions on the machine lock explorer.exe
Emptying the documents cache locks the machine for near 20 minutes.
And the computer doesn t feel right. ( ive been building computers for 7 years) I know it doesn t feel right.
Most of the voltages and settings are set to auto.
I just got in a Noctura U12F that I expect to drop the CPU temp by 6-8C easy.
Another detail I should mention is I managed to sorta get 2 plextor IDE drives to work on the Jmicron controller. The slave drive works fine , and the master attempts to work if you leave the disk alone for a long long time.
I suspect this may be the source of the problem....so I just purchased a PX755SA plextor SATA drive to replace that one.
Are there some tips you guys can offer me to stabilize this machine.
Other then what I am already doing.....
have you installed the intel inf's? Also, I'm assuming your hdd's are solely on the ich8 side of things?
did that...infact I read most of this forum before putting the machine together. So I have most all of the updated drivers.
The HD's are all on the ich8r
Does anyone know how i can find out how high mch and fsb volts are running?
Default FSB is 1.20V, (G)MCH 1.25V + add your increasements from BIOS. Not sure if ET5 or some other software can show you actual readings.Quote:
Originally Posted by 0oDeuzo0
I'm having big problems with the DQ6 2.0, my Neatgear Rangeman wireless USB dongle keeps getting a "device can't start" in Device Manager. Only way to make it work is to unplug it and plug it back in....never happened with the 1.0 PCB.
Also the Vdroop is FAR worse on the rev 2.0, i have set 1.4V in bios, but CPU-Z shows the voltage as 1.344V when running Orthos, wheras with rev 1.0 it would show 1.360V.
It's no longer stable, i need more Vcore in bios...why is this?, i thought the 2.0 boards fixed the Vdroop and made it better then it was, it seems worse.
Is this safe for daily use to set vmch +0.30-0.35V and vfsb +0.20-0.25V that is the only way to reach stable 520FSB...
Just make sure you have a fan on that stock nb sink that's keeping it only warm and you're good to go. The reading you get is not for the nb so don't be misled by that
It's already not safe to run fsb520 lol! are you on water cooling?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy007
*Just flash to F8 and it's crapping out on me like F7. 1st try fsb458 and need to add vfsb+.1 to boot into windows which is not require for F7b (not stable in windows). 2nd try fsb470 no go even i play around with ram option 1 or 2, vmch, vfsb and others setting. Think I have restarted like 30-40 times and still no go on my settings...
Hi all
I have had overclock problem with DS4 from beginning, i cant overclock at all with Logitech G15 keyboard connected to board. Has anybody any fix to this? Gigabyte had none. Overclocking works fine with other USB keyboard (Logitech too) havent tried the newest official bios, since i really dont think it will fix it.
If it helps anyone above with PSU noise, my 850 watt Thermaltake is quiet as a mouse - no kidding. And the 12 volt does show up on the board as 11.65, but all voltages measured directly using a meter are correct. Seems these motherboards don't report the volts exactly, or they modify the voltage.
Hmm... Sort of figured out the issue...
The FSB Strap doesn't kick in at 401mhz fsb, closer to 430mhz FSB. At 405mhz FSB (voltages tweaked ect.) I can post and boot into windows stable ect. At 410 FSB No matter what voltages ect I can't post. So I tried jumping right up to 435mhz FSB and to my suprise it posted! Went through everything normal and then it gave the c:\windows\system32\ missing file message when trying to boot windows... So I screwed around with all of my voltages ect. and still no luck... Also verified that setting 398mhz fsb in bios and setting 401 fsb in bios and then matching them in windows has no effect on performance, indicating there is no FSB strap at 400...
P.S board is a Rev 1 S3 w/ DS3 f9 bios..
Don't ya just love having to guess at where these hidden bios settings/straps are. I'm newer to OC'ing and this is just really stupid and frustrating; granted, somewhat challenging and rewarding when you do figure things out - but I'd like to get on with using my new build.
no water.. only AC. what value of fsb is safe?? 518 ?:D Why its not safe? I can easily set stable fsb about 500MHz without increasing vmch...Quote:
Originally Posted by laziepig
My DS3 actually died. Not sure what caused it, but it happened after I upgraded to F9. Guess I won't be testing F9 any more. LOL. Do you guys know where the serial number is on this POS so I can RMA it?
Sorry, I don't know where the serial number is.
But, I have read that you need to restore normal settings in the bios (un-overclock) before you flash a new bios. Could that have been it. Did you try clearing the CMOS?