Dual Core Opteron Thread #2

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Originally Posted by masterofpuppets

I'd rather see more Q&A, but if the crowd here are too incompetent for such intellectual activity, I guess that's out of the question :slap:

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This is an overclocking forum, people overclock and post their results. In my opinion, the more results, the better.

If you have any deeply intellectual questions, please ask them.

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Originally Posted by masterofpuppets

I'd rather see more Q&A, but if the crowd here are too incompetent for such intellectual activity, I guess that's out of the question :slap:

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i know i don't post much here, and i mean no offense by this, but i'd rather see some results, or Q&A, then people complaining about how the thread 'might' go down hill, or opinions of what makes a good thread.

i haven't seen too many questions asked so far, who's to say when they do get asked they won't get answered.

Tried 295x10 with 1.44v, core 0 failed after 7 min, loadtemp @ 48c :stick:

These things are hot :banana::banana::banana::banana:.. :banana:

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Originally Posted by itznfb

i know i don't post much here, and i mean no offense by this, but i'd rather see some results, or Q&A, then people complaining about how the thread 'might' go down hill, or opinions of what makes a good thread.

i haven't seen too many questions asked so far, who's to say when they do get asked they won't get answered.

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I've posted this already, but it got flooded out by the "pointless" posts :rotf:

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I'll have to put my chip under phase (or at least water) and see how it does. Looks like 2.8 is the most I can get on air (load temps are getting a bit high, 47-50C). I don't know if it's worth running at 2.8 really, going from 2.75 to 2.8 needs a whole .75v (well, around that) more to keep core 0 stable. It's perfectly stable at 1.612, but I feel the vcore jump is just too big to warrant such a small increase in performance. Plus the load temps are so much higher at 2.8 (probably because of the additional volts). Anybody got any input?

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I didn't even ask for a concrete answer, I asked for a bit of input. And that's not much to ask, but I guess the strenuous intellectual effort to accomplish this is a bit too much for some of you.:rolleyes:

EDIT: And no, I can't just go out and get a better chip, my pockets aren't endless like some of you here :p:

Hey, check it out. Tankguys is teasing us with CCB1E 0550 VPMWs. Only $21,416.61!

Alright guys, end of that discussion please. Its going the wrong way and IFMU was kind enought to give us another chance. Further discussion on what the thread is for is not necessary, I clearly stated what it was.

Lets move on.

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Originally Posted by ChkDsk

Does anybody know the meaning of the thermal offset? I set the temp calibration in bios now at -6 because of the offset of +6°C... But is this the way it should be interpreted? Nevertheless temperatures look very stunning this way ;)

http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/9110/offset0iv.th.jpg

New watercooling is on its way...

Swiftech Storm CPU block
Swiftech MCW60 VGA block (trying to find an european store!)
Swiftech MCP655 pump
BlackIce Xtreme 3 radiator
Alphacool Chrome reservoir
1/2" InnerDiameter tubing (Tygon or OC-Press)

Any suggestions there?

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BUMP :stick:

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Originally Posted by masterofpuppets

I'll have to put my chip under phase (or at least water) and see how it does. Looks like 2.8 is the most I can get on air (load temps are getting a bit high, 47-50C). I don't know if it's worth running at 2.8 really, going from 2.75 to 2.8 needs a whole .75v (well, around that) more to keep core 0 stable. It's perfectly stable at 1.612, but I feel the vcore jump is just too big to warrant such a small increase in performance. Plus the load temps are so much higher at 2.8 (probably because of the additional volts). Anybody got any input?

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is your goal to reach the max of the chip? or to maintain your highest possible stable?

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Originally Posted by aMp

Hey, check it out. Tankguys is teasing us with CCB1E 0550 VPMWs. Only $21,416.61!

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I'LL TAKE IT!

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Originally Posted by aMp

Hey, check it out. Tankguys is teasing us with CCB1E 0550 VPMWs. Only $21,416.61!

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Heh oops!

I just updated prices today, must have been a weird bug. Though if I did have some of those, I'd be *more* than happy to sell for $21,416.61 :D

Okay, sorry for the minor thread jack!

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Originally Posted by masterofpuppets

I've posted this already, but it got flooded out by the "pointless" posts :rotf:



I didn't even ask for a concrete answer, I asked for a bit of input. And that's not much to ask, but I guess the strenuous intellectual effort to accomplish this is a bit too much for some of you.:rolleyes:

EDIT: And no, I can't just go out and get a better chip, my pockets aren't endless like some of you here :p:

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Well I'm guessing that you quoted yourself there? If so, that doesn't sound like a question at all, more like you were rambling on to yourself.

EDIT: Asking people if you should use Phase Change or not is a bit of a no brainer really, why wouldn't you.

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Originally Posted by itznfb

is your goal to reach the max of the chip? or to maintain your highest possible stable?

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I am stable enough now, but I'd like to aim a bit higher. I have seen 2 other results from 0547TPMW on this forum, and mine seems very mediocre compared. But temps are through the roof, and that is probably what is limiting me here, but my temps are awfully high. My contact is good (it could be better, of course, but it's pretty decent contact already). The jump from 2750 to 2800 just introduces a ton of heat and for some reason core 0 just wants alot more voltage. The heat output of this chip just seems horrid.

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Originally Posted by Jimi...

Well I'm guessing that you quoted yourself there? If so, that doesn't sound like a question at all, more like you were rambling on to yourself.

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I'm not directly asking a question, I'm asking for advice. There is a difference. Don't bother trying to criticise my words, because in a 1v1 battle of wits, you'll lose :rolleyes: You start a little flamewar here, or this thread will suffer the same awful fate as the last, I've given my rant on the direction of this thread, and concluded it. Please don't make me have to continue ranting on. Kthx.

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Originally Posted by masterofpuppets

I am stable enough now, but I'd like to aim a bit higher. I have seen 2 other results from 0547TPMW on this forum, and mine seems very mediocre compared. But temps are through the roof, and that is probably what is limiting me here, but my temps are awfully high. My contact is good (it could be better, of course, but it's pretty decent contact already). The jump from 2750 to 2800 just introduces a ton of heat and for some reason core 0 just wants alot more voltage. The heat output of this chip just seems horrid.

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i would invest in some decent water cooling if you're only aiming a bit higher. of course its been said over and over, you can have the best stepping and still perform worse than the worst stepping. i'm sure you could land somewhere between 2.9 and 3.0 with some liquid.

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i definatly wouldn't waste money on phase unless you want to reach 3000+

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Originally Posted by masterofpuppets

I'm not directly asking a question, I'm asking for advice. There is a difference. Don't bother trying to criticise my words, because in a 1v1 battle of wits, you'll lose :rolleyes: You start a little flamewar here, or this thread will suffer the same awful fate as the last, I've given my rant on the direction of this thread, and concluded it. Please don't make me have to continue ranting on. Kthx.

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See, it's posts like that that got the other thread closed. Why do you feel the need to try and insult me? Lol, do you really think I'll take offense to what you said?

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Originally Posted by itznfb

i would invest in some decent water cooling if you're only aiming a bit higher. of course its been said over and over, you can have the best stepping and still perform worse than the worst stepping. i'm sure you could land somewhere between 2.9 and 3.0 with some liquid.

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i definatly wouldn't waste money on phase unless you want to reach 3000+

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Thing is, I don't need to waste my money on phase ;) I already have a Mach II here :D :p:

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Originally Posted by masterofpuppets

Thing is, I don't need to waste my money on phase ;) I already have a Mach II here :D :p:

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Yet your still asking people if you should use it or not? :confused:

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Originally Posted by Jimi...

See, it's posts like that that got the other thread closed. Why do you feel the need to try and insult me? Lol, do you really think I'll take offense to what you said?

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I honestly don't care if you take any offense to what I said, just bonus for me if you do. Notice how you are the one who is whining (well, I am too now provoked by you ;)). My ranting is over and done with. So would you kindly stop extending the BS argument further? :nono:

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Originally Posted by Jimi...

Yet your still asking people if you should use it or not? :confused:

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I'm not asking whether I should use it or not, I've made my intentions clear that I plan to use it in the future. :fact: Never realized how dumb some of the people here are. :p:

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Originally Posted by masterofpuppets

Thing is, I don't need to waste my money on phase ;) I already have a Mach II here :D :p:

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well then what are you waiting for :p

the only question i would have then... is the coldbugged issue?

i'm not sure if this would effect you or not, i don't have much knowledge with subzero temps

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Originally Posted by itznfb

well then what are you waiting for :p

the only question i would have then... is the coldbugged issue?

i'm not sure if this would effect you or not, i don't have much knowledge with subzero temps

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From what I've heard, CCBWE isn't too coldbugged. I'm only limited by the lack of decent mounting. There is no way I'm going to risk this board with the stock mounting. I've killed 2 Socket478 boards with condensation thanks to nVentiv's great mounting, I don't plan to add a 939 board to my list. My insulation is not into question here. So don't even start criticising me on that :rolleyes: I'm going to stick a Chilly1 block on there when I know for sure his PayPal is working and I can trust him to ship it (I've seen some bad reports on him very recently). If my chip coldbugs, I'll just have to save up for a bigger rad (I'm already planning to stick my gfx under water, and I doubt a HE120.2 is enough for the CPU as well) and a decent CPU block I suppose.

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Originally Posted by masterofpuppets

EDIT: And oh by the way, 865pe, quit using my avatar, make your own thanks. I don't take very well to nobodies stealing my Photochop work.

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That doesn't bode well for me:( .

@ 865pe- are you able to run v24.14 of prime95? I was stable at 2.9ghz, 1.45v for sp2004, but needed 1.48v to be 24.14 stable, still running small ffts. I've got the same stepping as you, but mine is not as good.

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Originally Posted by masterofpuppets

(I'm already planning to stick my gfx under water, and I doubt a HE120.2 is enough for the CPU as well) and a decent CPU block I suppose.

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i would have to agree, why not just run the gfx on air?

btw: what size fan sits on the 165 stock hs? 80mm correct?

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Originally Posted by itznfb

i would have to agree, why not just run the gfx on air?

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I have yet to see a decent aircooler for the X1900 series, and stock is way too noisy. Plus, the extra clocks would be nice.

@Thunderstruck/865: Sigh, some :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::b anana:s just do not learn. Looks like I'm gonna have to take it further.

a HE120.2 is plenty for a cpu and 2 gfxs. the change in water temp without running the gfxs in the same loop is really negligible to your cpu temps. maybe 1-3C, won't help an overclock much, especially with a not-so-temp-sensitive chip.