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12-13-2009, 12:45 PM
Redsand426

These graphs were originally posted in a forum by a guy with the user name of "successful troll". I'm surprised guru3d made an article of this crap.
12-13-2009, 12:49 PM
annihilat0r

it was fun while it lasted.
12-13-2009, 01:03 PM
eric66

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Originally Posted by Redsand426

These graphs were originally posted in a forum by a guy with the user name of "successful troll". I'm surprised guru3d made an article of this crap.

saddest thing is that they have there logo all over the slides :ROTF:
12-13-2009, 01:12 PM
JohnZS

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redsand426

These graphs were originally posted in a forum by a guy with the user name of "successful troll". I'm surprised guru3d made an article of this crap.

Am I the only person that sees the irony in the username of the person who posted these images?!
12-13-2009, 01:13 PM
BeepBeep2

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Originally Posted by Shadov

Seems fake, take a look at the same benchmarks with HD 5870 and HD 5970:

http://pclab.pl/zdjecia/artykuly/mie...ker-1920aa.png

http://pclab.pl/zdjecia/artykuly/mie.../fc1920aa8.png

And now compare to:

http://www.guru3d.com/imageview.php?image=21418

http://www.guru3d.com/imageview.php?image=21419

Look at the last two slides...the only two you can even make a valid comparison with (both 8xAA)....77 FPS and 78 FPS for the 5970.

I say they could be real.
12-13-2009, 01:18 PM
Solus Corvus

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Originally Posted by tajoh111

Go back to the original thread for the 5870, everyone thought we were going to get perfect 4890x2 scaling but on a single gpu.

No not everyone, some people thought that. They should have learned to moderate their expectations by now, but this thread is yet more evidence that they haven't.
12-13-2009, 01:19 PM
tajoh111

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Originally Posted by LordEC911

Whoops, thanks for the correction.
8+8pin = 375w max and won't be seen on the reference boards. I have a feeling we will eventually see AIBs add it on there though once they are able to do custom designs.

Not really, that was optimism mixed with the synthetic bench results...
At least no one said something like, "it will beat the last generation dual card by at least 30%." That one there is just a classic.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...8&postcount=65

Some people were expecting Asus mars performance(SLI gtx 285 2gb) or better, from a single 5870.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...8&postcount=65
12-13-2009, 01:22 PM
SKYMTL

I would invite you guys to look at past Nvidia press decks which have been posted again and again. It will be obvious that these are not from an official NVIDIA deck.

Quote:

These graphs were originally posted in a forum by a guy with the user name of "successful troll". I'm surprised guru3d made an article of this crap.

I am sure it is getting them a massive number of hits regardless of the validity. Mission successful.
12-13-2009, 01:23 PM
Florinmocanu

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Originally Posted by BeepBeep2

Look at the last two slides...the only two you can even make a valid comparison with (both 8xAA)....77 FPS and 78 FPS for the 5970.

I say they could be real.

Well, from the same comparison GTX 295 scores 54fps in the real review, in the slides it has 67 fps.
12-13-2009, 01:30 PM
Vit^pr0n

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeepBeep2

Look at the last two slides...the only two you can even make a valid comparison with (both 8xAA)....77 FPS and 78 FPS for the 5970.

I say they could be real.

Seriously..?

Anyone can take FPS of the 5870/5970 and put it into a slide with a fake fermi benchmark. I don't understand how anyone can even think they 'could' be real just from the fact that the 5970 benchmark is the same as reviews?
12-13-2009, 01:32 PM
blob

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Originally Posted by SKYMTL

I would invite you guys to look at past Nvidia press decks which have been posted again and again. It will be obvious that these are not from an official NVIDIA deck.

Normally nVidia graphs don't show fps but have a (ATI) baseline (1) and compare there card against it. Like this 1
12-13-2009, 01:33 PM
JohnZS

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Originally Posted by Vit^pr0n

Seriously..?

Anyone can take FPS of the 5870/5970 and put it into a slide with a fake fermi benchmark. I don't understand how anyone can even think they 'could' be real just from the fact that the 5970 benchmark is the same as reviews?

Only a successful troll would do such a thing ;)

I must admit it is annoying that these are fake, I was hoping that we finally had some sort of REAL indication as to what the Fermi would perform like... but alas some troll has flopped out his powerpoint and fabricated a load of nonsense :(
12-13-2009, 01:34 PM
skugpezz

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Originally Posted by Redsand426

These graphs were originally posted in a forum by a guy with the user name of "successful troll". I'm surprised guru3d made an article of this crap.

I didnt want to post this and be labeled as a fanboy
12-13-2009, 01:35 PM
Vit^pr0n

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Originally Posted by JohnZS

Only a successful troll would do such a thing ;)

I must admit it is annoying that these are fake, I was hoping that we finally had some sort of REAL indication as to what the Fermi would perform like... but alas some troll has flopped out his powerpoint and fabricated a load of nonsense :(

What's sad is it's getting the hopes up of so many people in this thread and other sites that have posted this fake slide that came from a 'forum member'...

Sites will do anything for hits I guess..
12-13-2009, 01:36 PM
JohnZS

Indeed :S
Makes you wonder whether they knew it was fake but posted the "news" just to get hits
12-13-2009, 01:40 PM
Leeghoofd

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Originally Posted by SKYMTL

I am sure it is getting them a massive number of hits regardless of the validity. Mission successful.

You got it Michael :up: Fake or not the hitcounter goes bonkers
12-13-2009, 01:47 PM
Shadov

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Originally Posted by tajoh111

I think its very plausible, but the source is dubious. So I agree with anyone professional and take this with a huge grain of salt.

Honestly everyone expected and believed the 5870 was going to have perfect crossfire scaling of 4890s i.e exactly twice the performance of the 4890 series, I don't think a single person on this board doubted that. I though it was going to have perfect CF scaling and when the card came out and it didn't, I was let down and didn't want to purchase a 58xx anymore. When the 5970 came out, I was even more let down because from AMD slides, I was expecting significantly better performance. But the increase in price and decrease in performance, really made me not want to buy the card anymore.

Just wanted to point youre comparing HD xx90 with an HD xx70.

Why again should they be close in performance when we probably can expect an HD 5890 soon?
12-13-2009, 01:49 PM
ColonelCain

I find it entertaining the fact that 5h after this was posted, almost 100 replies. :rofl:
12-13-2009, 02:06 PM
sxr71

Well for April these numbers minus about 10 or 20 percent are expected. I don't believe the TDP for a second though. If the TDP is even close to being true then all the wait would have been worth it. Somehow I really doubt it and as someone else these new GPUs are being optimized for GPU computing.

Whatever said and done it seems Nvidia this round sacrificed some competitiveness to work on a new architecture that will hopefully help out a lot for the next round. ATi took the short term strategy of just refreshing its parts.

If I had anything to say, I'd say that Nvidia chose the right time to make its jump given the current state of the economy anyway. This was a good round to take short term losses in. Besides I like it when a company does something that is forward thinking in a climate where all incentives are for businesses to act for the short term.

In the end it all averages out. I think ATI will need to do a major revamp after the next round of refreshes. I'm sure its already being worked on.
12-13-2009, 02:11 PM
LiquidReactor

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Originally Posted by LordEC911

Whoops, thanks for the correction.
8+8pin = 375w max and won't be seen on the reference boards. I have a feeling we will eventually see AIBs add it on there though once they are able to do custom designs.

Not really, that was optimism mixed with the synthetic bench results...
At least no one said something like, "it will beat the last generation dual card by at least 30%." That one there is just a classic.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tajoh111

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...8&postcount=65

Some people were expecting Asus mars performance(SLI gtx 285 2gb) or better, from a single 5870.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...8&postcount=65

I was and still expecting that. I think 5870 drivers are still too early and not enough optimizations have been made. Eventually I think 5870 will surpass HD 4890 CF performance but that will take time. Just look at GTX 280 when it was first released. In real world gaming tests by [H] at first it had trouble delivering better performance then 9800GX2 in Crysis. Nowadays GTX 280 is notably ahead.

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Originally Posted by Redsand426

These graphs were originally posted in a forum by a guy with the user name of "successful troll". I'm surprised guru3d made an article of this crap.

Hahaha...successful troll is successful.
12-13-2009, 02:12 PM
annihilat0r

If it was real it would be like the former slides, i.e. %5 difference in FPS accounts for %50 difference in the bar lengths :D
12-13-2009, 02:18 PM
AuDioFreaK39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redsand426

These graphs were originally posted in a forum by a guy with the user name of "successful troll". I'm surprised guru3d made an article of this crap.

Agreed.
12-13-2009, 02:21 PM
NickF

IF anyone is honestly going to believe that nVidia is being legit about this you're lieing to yourself.
We're talking about the same company who tells you that the 8800 GT, 9800 GT and GTX 250 are entirely different cards.:rolleyes:
12-13-2009, 02:33 PM
Vit^pr0n

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Originally Posted by NickF

IF anyone is honestly going to believe that nVidia is being legit about this you're lieing to yourself.
We're talking about the same company who tells you that the 8800 GT, 9800 GT and GTX 250 are entirely different cards.:rolleyes:

But they are! They come in different boxes with a different number! It even shows up differently on GPU-Z, so HAH!
12-13-2009, 02:37 PM
skugpezz

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Originally Posted by NickF

IF anyone is honestly going to believe that nVidia is being legit about this you're lieing to yourself.
We're talking about the same company who tells you that the 8800 GT, 9800 GT and GTX 250 are entirely different cards.:rolleyes:

dont forget the gtx 280M LOL:rofl:

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