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09-26-2009, 07:56 AM
ridney

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Originally Posted by chew*

I mention i have 12g's more of elpida hypers on the way? :p:

:up: i'm waiting for your results chew!!
09-26-2009, 01:03 PM
SocketMan

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Originally Posted by chew*

heh almost 2 whole minutes faster on tight timing high clock ddr III. I think ddr II just faltered :p:

Does minimizing it and doing other things effects performance much?
I got bored staring at it after 15 minutes,was also thinking it's more of a semi-stability test rather then
memory performance,will leave it at the front next time and put the 955 back in here,the pie numbers will be more in line probably.
The lack of L3 is the main reason for the pie being slower imo.

Wouldn't SANDRA or rightmark show much bigger differences between DDR2 | DDR3 ?

RightMark Memory Analyzer v3.8

http://cpu.rightmark.org/download/rmma38bin.rar
09-26-2009, 01:05 PM
chew*

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Originally Posted by SocketMan

Does minimizing it and doing other things effects performance much?
I got bored staring at it after 15 minutes,was also thinking it's more of a semi-stability test rather then
memory performance,will leave it at the front next time and put the 955 back in here,the pie numbers will be more in line probably.
The lack of L3 is the main reason for the pie being slower imo.

Wouldn't SANDRA or rightmark show much bigger differences between DDR2 | DDR3 ?

RightMark Memory Analyzer v3.8

http://cpu.rightmark.org/download/rmma38bin.rar

Sure you can tweak 32m and kill explorer and do raindances and play voodoo tricks but seeing as how I did not......its a rather fair and even comparison.

It's extremely good for testing stability of the ram and IMC......1m however is really not.

You will be very hard pressed to get that time under 21min without voodoo tweaks on ddr II......its all ram timings and speeds knocking out that faster time at as close to stock speeds of cpu as possible even 6-6-6 @ 1600 ddr III would get it's ass handed to it on a 955/965.
09-29-2009, 11:05 AM
chew*

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Originally Posted by Don_Dan

Hahaha, that's crazy man! I'm looking forward to the results!

What kits did you order? Or did you find them on value RAM?

Pic's or it never happened right?

Will take me a few days to get to this but....It will get done eventually.

http://chew.ln2cooling.com/qdig-file...med_elpida.jpg
09-29-2009, 11:18 AM
Don_Dan

THAT is sexy! :up:
09-29-2009, 09:56 PM
Blueflame

Very nice pic, got me very curious 1600/1866/2000 but i can wait for your bench testing to finsh then please lots pics
09-29-2009, 10:52 PM
ridney

chew! now you're talking!!!
09-30-2009, 07:50 AM
Zeus

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Originally Posted by chew*

Pic's or it never happened right?

Will take me a few days to get to this but....It will get done eventually.

http://chew.ln2cooling.com/qdig-file...med_elpida.jpg

Jealous...

Nice man!
09-30-2009, 10:53 AM
Don_Dan

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Originally Posted by SocketMan

DDR 2 will never falter ! ;)

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&pictureid=823

Took some time but now I have an Everest screen at overclocked settings too! Try to beat this: :p:

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/9...201teveres.jpg

:D

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Originally Posted by chew*

Sure you can tweak 32m and kill explorer and do raindances and play voodoo tricks but seeing as how I did not......its a rather fair and even comparison.

It's extremely good for testing stability of the ram and IMC......1m however is really not.

You will be very hard pressed to get that time under 21min without voodoo tweaks on ddr II......its all ram timings and speeds knocking out that faster time at as close to stock speeds of cpu as possible even 6-6-6 @ 1600 ddr III would get it's ass handed to it on a 955/965.

The best 32M time I was able to do on stock settings and memory at 800MHz CL6-6-5-20 1T was 20min55sec, using at least a little voodoo though... ;)

Is it really possible to do 32M in under 21min at stock settings?
09-30-2009, 11:02 AM
chew*

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Originally Posted by Don_Dan

The best 32M time I was able to do on stock settings and memory at 800MHz CL6-6-5-20 1T was 20min55sec, using at least a little voodoo though... ;)

Is it really possible to do 32M in under 21min at stock settings?

On ddr II I would say highly improbable.

So clocked ram no voodoo is still 1:15 secs faster than 1600 tight with voodoo.
09-30-2009, 11:14 AM
Don_Dan

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Originally Posted by chew*

So clocked ram no voodoo is still 1:15 secs faster than 1600 tight with voodoo.

Your score with just high-clocked memory in the first post is really fast, I never managed to do this during my testing. I didn't reach that high clocks though, even my best score is lacking some MHz on core, NB and memory.

BUT: Where will clocked RAM plus voodoo land... ;)
09-30-2009, 11:23 AM
chew*

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Originally Posted by Don_Dan

Your score with just high-clocked memory in the first post is really fast, I never managed to do this during my testing. I didn't reach that high clocks though, even my best score is lacking some MHz on core, NB and memory.

BUT: Where will clocked RAM plus voodoo land... ;)

No clue, I wonder IF the voodoo can beat PURE Bios tuning + crap SP1 limited to air

P.S. you should try out 3d05 at stock and then clocked ram only ;)

http://chew.ln2cooling.com/965BE/32m%202.JPG
09-30-2009, 11:28 AM
Don_Dan

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Originally Posted by chew*

No clue, I wonder IF the voodoo can beat PURE Bios tuning + crap SP1 limited to air

I will get at it tomorrow! ;)

4142MHz Core and >3000MHz NB will be very tough with my CPU, but I'll try it!
09-30-2009, 11:29 AM
chew*

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Originally Posted by Don_Dan

I will get at it tomorrow! ;)

4142MHz Core and >3000MHz NB will be very tough with my CPU, but I'll try it!

MOAR fans and cooling :p: MOAR I say
09-30-2009, 11:37 AM
Don_Dan

Will get some cable ties and more fans tomorrow! :D
09-30-2009, 12:20 PM
chew*

Ok So I thought I would note this.

Corsair or any other manufacturers If you ever do release an AMD kit,( I know Corsair does have one on the Site that is not available yet etc coming soon).

Please use an alternative heatspreader solution.....With a popular heatsink such as the TRUE 120 there are obviously clearance issues.

It will likely save you RMA's from stubborn users making it fit and AMD users aggravation.

http://chew.ln2cooling.com/elpida/IMG_1612.JPG

For obvious reasons I have swapped to my Xigamatek 1284.

http://chew.ln2cooling.com/elpida/IMG_1616.JPG
09-30-2009, 12:38 PM
OgaiB

Quote:

Originally Posted by chew*

Ok So I thought I would note this.

Corsair or any other manufacturers If you ever do release an AMD kit,( I know Corsair does have one on the Site that is not available yet etc coming soon).

Please use an alternative heatspreader solution.....With a popular heatsink such as the TRUE 120 there are obviously clearance issues.

It will likely save you RMA's from stubborn users making it fit and AMD users aggravation.

http://chew.ln2cooling.com/elpida/IMG_1612.JPG

For obvious reasons I have swapped to my Xigamatek 1284.

http://chew.ln2cooling.com/elpida/IMG_1616.JPG

offtopic

This new AMD Socket AM2 / AM3 Bolt-Thru-Kit Rev.2 help you and all ultra120 users fit heat sink normally:
http://www.thermalright.com/new_a_pa...btk_rev2.htm#2

http://www.heatsinkfactory.com/therm...kit-rev-2.html
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=26375
09-30-2009, 01:00 PM
chew*

I have the "scissors" for intel....I will pass.

My heatsink does not budge I will pass on that, plus spending more money.......when the solution is simple, smaller heatspreader thus cheaper costs to them = cheaper for consumer.

Secondly........with that setup my sanyo will chop up the memory.........pointing towards back of case........so only other option is blow hot air at ram and into my case......:rolleyes:
09-30-2009, 06:03 PM
chew*

Ok so they are a tad slower than my other set however I heard the revised batch is not as fast......So either Corsair is tightening up the binning or..new batch just doesn't fair quite as well....either way I'm not complaining :)

First run 6-6-5 tight as a virgin on everything ;)

1.65 rated 1.70 bios measured real 1.68v.

http://chew.ln2cooling.com/elpida/new%20sticks.JPG
09-30-2009, 08:51 PM
chew*

Service pack 1 holding its own ;)

Tired time for bed.

http://chew.ln2cooling.com/qdig-file...sticks%203.JPG
10-02-2009, 09:56 AM
chew*

Dan I preety much confirmed it the other night, meant to tell you.

We are both at the IMC limit of these retail 965's its not the ram, Cold i'm maxxing at 1800 ish.

About all I can say right now.
10-02-2009, 04:24 PM
chew*

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Originally Posted by BiGSpender

can some one help me with setting up the right timings on this ram on my msi 790fx-gd70

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666)

I am a super noob and need some help. Trying to get 3.8 stable. I no longer get bsod or random reboots after new memory, but I do fail prime 95 and occt after 6 min or so with a cpu error. my temps never get above 53c full load.

http://i299.

Better suited in another thread, that is way OFF TOPIC.
10-02-2009, 05:10 PM
BiGSpender

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Originally Posted by chew*

Better suited in another thread, that is way OFF TOPIC.

Sorry just want some help on my ram. Were should I post?

Thanks
10-02-2009, 05:27 PM
chew*

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Originally Posted by BiGSpender

Sorry just want some help on my ram. Were should I post?

Thanks

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=233105
10-02-2009, 09:14 PM
Don_Dan

Quote:

Originally Posted by chew*

Ok so they are a tad slower than my other set however I heard the revised batch is not as fast......So either Corsair is tightening up the binning or..new batch just doesn't fair quite as well....either way I'm not complaining :)

First run 6-6-5 tight as a virgin on everything ;)

1.65 rated 1.70 bios measured real 1.68v.

You're hitting the exact same limit that I found! Same voltage, same speed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by chew*

Dan I preety much confirmed it the other night, meant to tell you.

We are both at the IMC limit of these retail 965's its not the ram, Cold i'm maxxing at 1800 ish.

About all I can say right now.

That explains it! :D

Thanks for the info!

I couldn't run any more 32M, I'm moving house today and I had to take my bench setup apart. Sorry. :(

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