5Ghz air done Core i7 Extreme

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11-29-2008, 02:37 AM
dinos22

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Originally Posted by Rol-Co

No offence charles,but youre efficienty is 42700 , i can't even get it that low at vista, the intel board is a sample board or special bios with lower qpi/uclk dividers? that would explane this and why you get it that high.

george o/c
running 1m stable here too at 4740 air...if i could run 5ghz+ it would be a 8.1xx pi 1m score. No tweaks or what so ever just run it..

are you getting around 41K
11-29-2008, 02:42 AM
Rol-Co

easy dinos22.... 41000 is normal, 40300 with higher memory (800 7-7-7).
11-29-2008, 02:45 AM
dinos22

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Originally Posted by Rol-Co

easy dinos22.... 41000 is normal, 40300 with higher memory (800 7-7-7).

interesting
i am getting above 41K with gigabyte (high RAM clocks and all
at stock its mid 40K roughly
11-29-2008, 02:50 AM
Rol-Co

Mabe you should try dualchannel dinos ;)

http://www.rol-co.nl/hwi/4533-8.891.jpg

http://www.rol-co.nl/hwi/4740-1m.jpg
11-29-2008, 03:02 AM
Movieman

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Originally Posted by FUGGER

Thanks guys

4 cores 8 threads enabled.

vcore 1.47v
vmem 1.66v
qpi 1.35v

memory @ 6
uclk @ 12
qpi @ 36x
SPD

33x152bclock

Is that on the MB in your sig?
11-29-2008, 08:26 AM
natedog420

no its the intel smackover board with 403 bios. read it in first post:D
11-29-2008, 08:32 AM
George_o/c

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Originally Posted by Rol-Co

Mabe you should try dualchannel dinos ;)

http://www.rol-co.nl/hwi/4533-8.891.jpg

http://www.rol-co.nl/hwi/4740-1m.jpg

Yeah I noticed that your runs are at around ~40.3k pp easy ... So you're saying that it's the dual-channel that does the trick ? :)

'Cause most of the guys are at around 41k ...
11-29-2008, 08:48 AM
Rol-Co

For sure triple is not alway's faster, or it does not give you advance.

some benchmarks like 32m like the triple...
11-29-2008, 08:50 AM
George_o/c

Οk thanks for the heads up Rol-Co :)
11-29-2008, 10:28 AM
RPGWiZaRD

I wish Intel would offer such modified retail chips like these FUGGER is testing. No fun only watching when you know it's impossible to get retail chips overclocking like these. :( Maybe Lynnfield will be better though.
11-29-2008, 10:31 AM
Drwho?

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Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD

I wish Intel would offer such modified retail chips like these FUGGER is testing. No fun only watching when you know it's impossible to get retail chips overclocking like these. :( Maybe Lynnfield is better though.

Those chip get sold into the stream ... they are somewhere ... the problem is to catch them. :yepp:
11-29-2008, 10:46 AM
RPGWiZaRD

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Originally Posted by Drwho?

Those chip get sold into the stream ... they are somewhere ... the problem is to catch them. :yepp:

I was referring to this http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=209057

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Intel plans its own public demonstration of the overclocking capabilities of the Core i7 processors. This, in response to rival AMD achieving an overclock of well beyond 5.00 GHz, and booting at speeds above 6.00 GHz. The engineers at Intel reportedly carried out a large-scale binning of Core i7 processors, to cherry-pick the best performing part. The scale of binning could well be best of 100,000 units.

A chief engineer at Intel, Francoise Piednoel expressed his reservations regarding the 6.00 GHz overclocking feat AMD carried out with its upcoming Phenom II X4 processor last week, saying that the overclocking capabilities of the Phenom II X4 demonstrated do not reflect those of release-grade products, and cannot be replicated in a real-world setting. AMD may have disabled several sensors on the cherry-picked chip used in its demonstration, which facilitated that overclock. In response to this, Intel would be disabling the same sensors, in its special demonstration chip. The demo could be held at CES 2009. The professional overclocker chosen to achieve this feat would be none other than FUGGER from XtremeSystems. FUGGER could be set the task of taking the most desirable, binned Core i7 965 Extreme Edition chip all the way up to a stellar 7.00 GHz, if all goes well.

So this chip isn't one of those "special" chips then? If so, no retail ones will O/C as good no matter how cherry picked they are.
11-29-2008, 10:51 AM
Drwho?

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Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD

I was referring to this http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=209057

So this chip isn't one of those "special" chips then? If so, no retail ones will O/C as good no matter how cherry picked they are.

we DID NOT DISSABLE to get there. I said that we may, but we did not.
11-29-2008, 11:04 AM
Lastviking

Nice chip there Fugger :) , gratz to nice clocks.

I realy hope this chips will not be used to take some WR.... i think it would be cheating(not all can get Cherry picked cpus, so the WR fighting will not be fair anymore)

Screens and more is :up: from me..

But taking WR in 3Dmark and more is "Big" :down: from me.
11-29-2008, 11:19 AM
Zucker2k

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Originally Posted by Lastviking

Nice chip there Fugger :) , gratz to nice clocks.

I realy hope this chips will not be used to take some WR.... i think it would be cheating(not all can get Cherry picked cpus, so the WR fighting will not be fair anymore)

Screens and more is :up: from me..

But taking WR in 3Dmark and more is "Big" :down: from me.

What you obviously don't know is that the guys with the WRs mostly have handpicked gems. People even pass the same gems around to their friends. Don't look past the fact that even if the chips are cherrypicked, they're still Intel products. We don't need to be myopic here, neither AMD nor Intel is promising 6Ghz retail chips to the end user.
11-29-2008, 11:19 AM
fubarswe

.., what ever chip it is.., extremely impressive and ofcourse big congrats to sweet results!!! :-)
11-29-2008, 12:21 PM
Bobsama

I've a single question...

What's your max b-clock for that Smackover board?
11-29-2008, 12:31 PM
Lastviking

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Originally Posted by Zucker2k

What you obviously don't know is that the guys with the WRs mostly have handpicked gems. People even pass the same gems around to their friends. Don't look past the fact that even if the chips are cherrypicked, they're still Intel products. We don't need to be myopic here, neither AMD nor Intel is promising 6Ghz retail chips to the end user.

Handpicked and cherrypicked is diffrent. If you want to take a WR you need to test many chips and find the best one to have any chance to get the WR(thats ok all can do that) , But if Amd or Intel give out cherrypicked chips thats normal users cant buy/get is a very diffrent story.

Are you geting it now? , or do you dont stil not understand me?

Ps. I have been around many years so i understand and know the most stuff here.
11-29-2008, 12:38 PM
mongoled

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Originally Posted by Lastviking

Handpicked and cherrypicked is diffrent. If you want to take a WR you need to test many chips and find the best one to have any chance to get the WR(thats ok all can do that) , But if Amd or Intel give out cherrypicked chips thats normal users cant buy/get is a very diffrent story.

Are you geting it now? , or do you dont stil not understand me?

Ps. I have been around many years so i understand and know the most stuff here.

Hey dude, I am getting a similar sort of response from Zucker2k in the other thread. You know we have only been around XS since 2003, ofcourse we are n00bs

:rofl:

This to me is so straight forward, yet some wish to argue this, I just dont get it :confused:
11-29-2008, 12:48 PM
Lastviking

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Originally Posted by mongoled

Hey dude, I am getting a similar sort of response from Zucker2k in the other thread. You know we have only been around XS since 2003, ofcourse we are n00bs

:rofl:

This to me is so straight forward, yet some wish to argue this, I just dont get it :confused:

:up:

Back to Topic :) ... one thing i dont get... the chip do 5.0ghz on air and -100c cooling give 5.7ghz, is not 700mhz small bost? with much beter cooling?
11-29-2008, 01:03 PM
Zucker2k

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lastviking

Handpicked and cherrypicked is diffrent. If you want to take a WR you need to test many chips and find the best one to have any chance to get the WR(thats ok all can do that) , But if Amd or Intel give out cherrypicked chips thats normal users cant buy/get is a very diffrent story.

Are you geting it now? , or do you dont stil not understand me?

Ps. I have been around many years so i understand and know the most stuff here.

I think if you read Francois carefully, you'll understand that cherrypicked chips have always been passed from Intel (or AMD for that matter) to selected few like FUGGER, who have gone on to break some records. Again, if you did read carefully, you should have caught on to the fact that some of these gems (cherrypicked chips) do pass through the cracks and end up in the hands of enthusiasts anyway. So what is your point again?
11-29-2008, 02:34 PM
RPGWiZaRD

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Originally Posted by Drwho?

we DID NOT DISSABLE to get there. I said that we may, but we did not.

Sorry, I was just curious as that changes things a whole lot. :D Impressive results, too bad those gems are very rare. :up:

If you decide to disable stuff in order to get further which could be quite interesting too just to see what crazy clocks can be achieved this way then please clearly state that or else it's not fair IMO.
11-29-2008, 05:54 PM
Drwho?

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Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD

Sorry, I was just curious as that changes things a whole lot. :D Impressive results, too bad those gems are very rare. :up:

If you decide to disable stuff in order to get further which could be quite interesting too just to see what crazy clocks can be achieved this way then please clearly state that or else it's not fair IMO.

If we dissable,I will let you know, I am 100% for full disclosure.we don't plan to do anythink like this, it looks like thermal control never gets in the way of OC, so, dissabling is not required.
One of the reason I wanted to do this test was to make sure that an OC made by a master was following the same logic as we do in the labs.
The technics are very similar.
11-29-2008, 07:03 PM
npk

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Originally Posted by Drwho?

If we dissable,I will let you know, I am 100% for full disclosure.we don't plan to do anythink like this, it looks like thermal control never gets in the way of OC, so, dissabling is not required.
One of the reason I wanted to do this test was to make sure that an OC made by a master was following the same logic as we do in the labs.
The technics are very similar.

I have 2 questions but not sure if you´re allowed to answer them.

What was the selection method used to get the first batch of cpus you took to fugger´s home?

Care to explain what the 'sustrate number' written on the pcb means and if it has anything to do with the oc potential of the cpu? (here´s a sample pic showing that number)

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/9765/sustrategs2.jpg
11-29-2008, 11:25 PM
Drwho?

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Originally Posted by npk

I have 2 questions but not sure if you´re allowed to answer them.

What was the selection method used to get the first batch of cpus you took to fugger´s home?

Care to explain what the 'sustrate number' written on the pcb means and if it has anything to do with the oc potential of the cpu? (here´s a sample pic showing that number)

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/9765/sustrategs2.jpg

no, i can t answer this, sorry.

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