I am not saying it doesnt work, I'm just curious what affect it has on the tubing itself.
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I am not saying it doesnt work, I'm just curious what affect it has on the tubing itself.
scrubbing bubbles work, but it will leave your tubing yellow hue to it.
thats what i was refering to.. personally, unless your are using tygon its just better to buy more tubing than to clean it.Quote:
Originally Posted by situman
Left mine soaking in water and washing-up liquid for 24h or so. Adding boiling water now and again and they have come quite clean. But when they dry there are still some ''milky'' patches. :(
Bad for the environment......Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxxxRacer
Ever thought about the PVC sitting in the dump, poisoning the earth? Or the PVC going into the incinerators, releasing dioxin and other poisonous gases?
Or how about that forum boy, stitting at his PC? What about all the oil that is burned, releasing CO2 into th environment and driving existing prices up, to power his forum whoreage? What about his watercooled PC that eats up far more energy than air cooling? Maybe we should all use cloth napkins, glass cups, and start annoying everyone about PVC on every thread that even mentions tubing choices?Quote:
Originally Posted by serialk11r
Sorry, I was being an :banana: :banana: :banana:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Peanut
The thing is, I think we should work together to phase out PVC. I didn't know any better, and bought masterkleer, but next time I will get polyurethane tubing. The production of PVC creates all this hydrochloric acid, it makes a bunch of toxic chemicals go everywhere, and its done because its cheap and useful...
I mean, we're pwning the environment real bad already but doing something for the good of everyone's health is not a bad thing is it?
Make sure you don't have any pvc in your house or in your use, then lecture us. You are doing much more damage to the environment then pvc tubbing in your pc would so you can cut your pretend ideology before you make a complete idiot of yourself and start with the things that can actually make a difference if you are so interested in the well being of our environment. But I don't think you give a rats ass about the environment, I think you are just just picking a fight and starting yet another pointless argument and flame war because thats what you do around here.Quote:
Originally Posted by serialk11r
I have masterkleer, WHAT NOW!!!! WHAT NOW!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by epion2985
Anyways, saint gobain said PVC isn't the right stuff for watercooling (or what marci described to them :rolleyes:)
edited my post above on a more serious note.
Sorry, I just felt like it :p: But I also mentioned, what of the risks to your health? I remember nn_step showing a pic of a torch burning up tubing... If that was him, ugh... dioxin...Quote:
Originally Posted by epion2985
I used Scrubbing Bubbles on my MCW6002 block and it would work wonders on cleaning the inside. I have just used a bit of dishwashing detergent on a small piece of cloth rammed down the tubing on a coathanger to take the film right off.
I see the powers that be in the Republic of Kalifornia have successfully brainwashed you.Quote:
Originally Posted by serialk11r
Hmmm... Okay then, hold some PVC pipe over the stove and enjoy the bioaccumulative toxins and carcinogens! I hear its better than pot!Quote:
Originally Posted by Omastar
Do you know exactly how much PVC-based plastic tubing affects the environment? The impact is NOTHING compared to the rate at which deforestation and over-fishing are happening now. Why not concentrate on that? I mean, don't you think big commercial chemical labs who use Tygon in vast quantities know how to dispose of it properly? There are likely ordinances that dictate how tubing that carried chemical agents can be disposed of, even after sterilization in an autoclave. I'm sure they don't just walk down to the BP and toss nine thousand feet of old tubing in a dumpster.Quote:
Originally Posted by serialk11r
Why did you quote my latest post, about the health effects?Quote:
Originally Posted by Omastar
Because you keep going on about the gases that are released by burning PVC pipe. Anyone dumb enough to do that needs a swift beating. My point is you're making a mountain out of a mole-hill. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by serialk11r
I heard UV is used to eliminate bacteria. I read an article about a week ago that was about building a breadbox with UV lights built in. Using this breadbox, the bread lasted much longer and didn't grow the mould that grew in the bread that was in the box without UV light.Quote:
Originally Posted by IanY
Yes, the gases are very toxic, and carcinogenic. The plasticizer seeps out into places where you don't want it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Omastar
Don't feed the Trolls please. :slap:
I know, but it's awfully tempting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sideroxylon
Must be a republican. Pity.Quote:
Originally Posted by epion2985
On a more serious note: has a consensus been made on what type of tubing should be used to not have clouding/staining problems (and not kink like crazy and be flexible enough for serious bends)?
Not that I know of. We're waiting to hear back from Marci on what St. Gobain have told him.Quote:
Originally Posted by ranker
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Originally Posted by serialk11r
If you are burning PVC tubing inside your house with a torch and melting it over the stove you are a moron and you have bigger problems then dioxin...Quote:
Originally Posted by serialk11r
Actually no. Though democrats are no better. I don't believe in subscribing my vote to any party regardless of who is in charge or what choices they make. My vote depends on my opinion on the issue, not a political party's.Quote:
Originally Posted by ranker