Get me a CPU-Z verified link and you'll officially be in second place. Also, what voltage you running those at?
Printable View
Get me a CPU-Z verified link and you'll officially be in second place. Also, what voltage you running those at?
DB Updated. :D
Still need to know what voltage you're running DriveEuro.
2.7v, sorry. 2.6v seemed to work fine though also.
I can't tinker with it now. I'm getting another dual Xeon 1.6LV up and ready for F@H :D
argh, i'm going to have to run some cl3 to get back in the top 5, lol
Nugzo... Is your ram stable day to day at 285mhz with 2.8v? I was thinking about pushing a bit more...
Quote:
Originally Posted by DriveEuro
I dont run it at that 24-7. that was just for database reasons. If i had a cpu that would run 2850mhz stable i would run it at 285*10 1:1. My 3700 will only do 2800mhz stable with 11*255. Errors with 10*280
What AMD64 is hittin 2900mhz stable atm? besides the FX's. I cant afford them.
I got a question about A64 Tweaker.
When you change values in A64 Tweaker, and click set. Does that become the default values of your computer? If not how do you make it your default values, meaning when you boot up your computer the timings you adjusted before is what is in effect?
I suppose I can manually set them in the Bios, but my Bios doesn't have all those parameters. Sorry for the noob question, but any help is greatly appreciated
When you use A64 Tweaker it only temporarily sets those setting until you restart. Once you restart the bios reconfigures the timings according to what you have IT set to. Also, in A64 Tweaker you can hit File - "Apply settings at startup". That will make A64 tweaker set those setting every time you boot to windows.
DriveEuro and Wazzle, if you guys could get me a screen of super finished, not in the menu, that'd be great. I know it's the same thing, but it'd make some people feel better.
Got one for ya ! 285mhz !
Using 704-1 bios
All auto settings execpt for trfc of 14, tref of 166mhz 3.9uz, and setting memory speed to FAST, 2.8v
cpuz validation:
Updated, Major takes first place! :toast:
:nono: I cant give up teh lead..brb in 30 min :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by EnJoY
LOL !! nugzo I'm through playing with the ram and now I've started to OC my X2.
My X2 tops out at 2860 using 11x and memory at 260, with the 10x it maxes out a little less so I'm playing with now to find max with 10x multi.
So go for 286 !! you will be safe ! :D
LOL Good luck! :slobber:Quote:
Originally Posted by Major
Damn, that's some sweet OCs there! :toast:
I dont suppose anyone has tried a 4Gig setup???
Voltage? 2.8v still or more?Quote:
Originally Posted by nugzo
2.85v
Well guys, here is the deal so far (very preliminary)
I had some issues this evening with well how can I put this, it stemmed around finally the NVIDIA Raid array creation process. What would happen is I created my Raid 0 on 2xSATA raptors 36GB well after consequental reboot the bios would NOT go to where it tries a boot device, would do everything up to that point, processor and mem ID etc. Since this is my first DFI board I really had no idea what I was doing, I tried to set memtest upon boot and it didn't work so I thought I was missing something to get it to work.
Long story short everytime I reloaded to optimal settings I could boot to XP boot CD, finally I narrrowed it down to the Nvidia Raid, I wiped the drives and instead of optimal stripe size I selected 128k stripe size and to wipe the drives again.
Now at 5am I am testing... testing... so far I am only doing memtest86 I have tested 250, 260, 270, 280 FSB and no errors test #5 is the most torturous right? I have ran the 4400+ at 2600 so far but naturally with no XP OS yet I am unable to prime test the cores.
Can someone please help me out and give me the links to all the verification pages so I can be as helpful to everyone else as you all have been to me in making my newest PC upgrade decision? Basically what version of Prime and what other utilities are the best to guarantee I give accurate overclocking results and verified results.
Look forward to providing much more information tomorrow, incidentally if this CPU and RAM overclock like a champ it will be the first time I've gotten lucky in my selections in about 5 yrs. Running ram at 2.8v btw going to try 290 next 3-3-3-8 1T default and all set to auto in bios don't know how to tweak yet
Well I did 290 and failed then went back to 285 and failed on test #5, however when I went back into bios I was going to tweak a couple settings to match Major when I noticed my DRAM was set to 2.6v :confused: must have been when I was troubleshooting POST issues and reverted back to optimal settings.
Anyway back at 285 again and 2.8v this time, hoping to pass memtest86 @ 290 after 285, lots of cooling on the ram I have 3x120mm and 1x92mm fans right now waiting on 2 replacement 120mm fans that are 50% more CFM and only 41db
Strange, setting to 2.8v started to give me a couple errors in test 4, even at the previously tested OK @ 280fsb test 4 gave me some errors.
I went to 2.7v and 280 is ok now again. Perhaps this set of ram doesn't like voltage too much?? I find it a bit odd since the specs of the ram are 3-4-4-8 2.8v. Oh ya and I wonder why it autodetects at 3-3-3-8 instead of the specs posted on crucial's site...
Going to try 285 again because it had only failed at test 4, don't think 290 will make it but will try 285-289 and see how I do at 2.7v
If anyone has some ram tweaks to try in bios I'd like to know
Just started testing my 2 x 1 Crucial B Tracer sticks. I`m running them on a IC7- MAX3. I use memtest 86 for testing.
Tested 250 , 3-3-3-8 @ 2,8v ok
Tested 255 , 3-3-3-8 @ 2,8v fail
Tested 255 , 3-3-3-8 @ 2,6v ok
Now testing 260 3-3-3-8 @ 2,6 ...
Looks like this modules prefer low voltage.
Quote:
Originally Posted by pentium777
Here's a link to some of the tools you need. They are at the bottom of the page. Here is Super Pi. Here is Prime95
My crucial hated voltage also. it seems to get a little beter with time. I have yet to see a set runnin 3-4-4-8.Quote:
Originally Posted by pentium777
Ok, here's 7+ hours of testing.... Test 4 fails it seems only when I'm trying to do 275 280 285 speeds, that's after many hours and 4 complete passes no other tests fail and only 1 error line saying test 4 failed 56.5mb or something like that.
I put back to 250 again, running 2.7v maybe I should leave at 2.6v and try the 280 again? Seems I had good luck when I forgot to mess with voltage lol, but on crucials site it does say 2.8v
maybe 2.7
This is strange, I moved the multi up to 9x instead of the 8x it was at and now I'm getting no errors at 2.6 / 280 :confused: Does the multi affect DRAM speed? Just isn't logical to me.... I even ran Test 5 for 5 passes alone and no errors. Going to try 8x again to see if I can reproduce the errors I was getting in test 5
Yep when I moved multi back to 8x I got a slew of errors on test 5. It is at 9 again just got back from getting some fast food and at 9x multi 280x9 for 2521 according to memtest, so far it is 80% done with complete pass 1 and no errors passed test 5 with flying colors.
Am I just too much of a noob with this AMD / Nforce or is this odd?
Wow, nice sticks Pentium777, keep workin on em and get me some cpu-z verified links and super pi 32m. :toast:
DB Update btw, nugzo retook first place with 286MHz. :clap:
dont know if this has been said but i cant find the 1gb ballistx anywhere on newegg anymore.
direct from crucial only place now?
Crucial is technically out of stock right now too...I just got an email saying that the stuff I'm getting back on RMA is out of stock and will be delayed 10 days (this is taking bloody forever to get some good 1GB sticks that work). I read somewhere that the current lines are being phased out and will be replaced by _______. Not sure if it's better or worse yet either.
Replaced by what exactly?
We wish we knew
I know whats going on. There are changing to an new process. A friend of mine is a layout enginer at Micron and the mig change is al new layout has to be on the new process, and Im thinking its 90nm or 65nm. The new process has been up for 6 to 9 months now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vapor
All the Micron mem you see now is 110nm.
Heh, if that's true, then the new stuff, when it's back in stock, should overclock even better no?
I don't know. I have not heard of the specs of the new process at all. They might have some problems to work out first.Quote:
Originally Posted by [-Stash-]
Bug the heck out of your friend for more info :)
Testing 704-2 bios next will post results if good.
SO i have been playing around with my crucial value micron stuff and was able to pull this amximum 32M stable:
http://img310.imageshack.us/img310/6539/242jpg5nb.jpg
Timings are pretty loose but if i tighten it seems max is around 238
Get me a cpu-z verified link and your on.
Good going J-Mag ! :toast:
What bios are you using ?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Major
It's not 295Hz 1:1, just incase you thought that...
No I saw he was using a divider, still 242mhz out of value sticks aint shabby ;)
No doubt. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Major
Yeah I totally forgot to do that, but I will make another run soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by EnJoY
Oddly enough to get the best performance out of the Crucial Value I have, you need to run it at 238 or so and then you can turn on bank interleave, 1t, and reduce alot of the other timings.
Thanks Major and honestly I have no idea what BIOS I am using. It is whatever the shipping BIOS was on the DFI SLI-D I purchased at Fry's about 1 month ago for a tide-me-over until my RMA came back fom DFI...Quote:
Originally Posted by Major
I have most of the BIOS bin files, but most of the flashing programs seem to be floppy related... Is there an awdflash exe I can use for all the BIOS revs and then just put it on my bootable USB stick?
Well guys I haven't tried to go past 287.03 but... if I'm on the top of the charts I guess I will hang for a bit until someone pushes me :-) 2.9v RAM btw extremely impressed with this ram more than I had hoped for and that's always a good thing! :D
287mhz :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by pentium777
Wow. Kinda making me wanna up the voltage on my ram when I get home later tonight. :D
Excellent ! :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by pentium777
If you don't mind, post what BIOS your using, and all the settings you changed in bios.
Left all the dram settings to optimal from BIOS 623-3, changed to 2.9v probably could have run lower voltage since my sticks don't seem to like a lot of volts. 3-3-3-8 1T for sure and whatever DFI's optimal settings load is. I had a nightmare when I tried to mess with the dram speed or whatever from Normal to Fast, forgot I had changed it and had very serious stability problems so I decided not to mess around with them, optimal seems pretty good
Great work Pentium777.. You sorry sack of $#@! !! No just kidding i tried and tried for 287 and couldnt get it. Guess imma have to try and try some more!!
How do u like the AMD side of the fence? Intel better watch out. Every year AMD gets better and better.
Intel got better this year too with the Dothan. If there was a Dothan mainboard with PCI-E I bet there would be a LOT of people running that.
Well it was a pain in the @#$% to get going thankfully I got it all figured out, mainly a lot of setting that can fubar you with the DFI board is what hung me up. That dram from Normal to Fast really screwed me badly.Quote:
Originally Posted by nugzo
I was 3dmarks2005 testing and it kept crashing with NV4DISP.SYS or DLL don't remember which and I though the video card was not working at stocks speeds, then other issues forced me to reload and examine with digital camera all my dram setting and found that one entry that royally :banana: me.
BTW why does :banana: mean........ you know..
Anyway my 287 although is stable isn't something I'd want 24/7 just like you running 255 24/7 I'll be putting it back down a bit to get max OC of CPU. What do you think is the safest and highest Vcore to run?
AMD is on top right now with X2 imo, Intel is getting stomped, I game a lot and this is just the best CPU all around there is.
Not real sure bout max vcore for x2. I'm pushin 1.7 on my sandiego and major is over 1.7 on his x2. I'm still on air so kinda scared to go above 1.7. I'll be ordering a swiftech water cooling kit soon. Anybody have any suggestions for water?
Ok back to business.. Bios 704-2 Optimized Defaults + tref change to 0780 (thanks pentium777) 288*9 2.8v 32m passed very first run. No tweaking needed. Only change from optimized was 0780 tref which pentium777 used for his 287. Going for 290 after dinner.
CPU-Z 288*9 2.8v
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/148/2887oc.th.jpg
So we can confirm that tref 0780 and/or bios 704-2 yields the better OCs?
I'm gonna fire up with 0780 to see if I can get higher. I'm still on 6/23 bios... :confused:
Remember to be careful with 704 bios. DO NOT use any special vid over 113% or you could fry yor chip.
Nah, don't worry. Still just using 6/23 bios. I still can't get my ram over 285mhz stable. No matter what vcore and tref. I wonder if 704 bios would help. Kinda doubting it though. 270mhz for day to day at 2.6v really isn't all that bad. ;)
EDIT: Still can't get mine over 275mhz stable. Even with 0780 and 3120
704 suprised me. its my favorite
Pentium, get me a cpu-z verified link and you'll be up.
DB Updated. :)
Damnit, just did some more OCing and I borked my hard drive. Tried 270x11 for 2970mhz. Used 1.75v too just to be sure and I crapped up my hard drive. Whole partition got freaked out.
Time to reinstall :(
cpu-z is verified on his screenshot its http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=29035Quote:
Originally Posted by EnJoY
Nugzo! Just when I thought I had the lead.. Went to eat dinner and came back to my PC to find this....... :toast:
What do ya think?
Linky
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=29071
i think your about to be robbed as you sleep tonightQuote:
Originally Posted by pentium777
:stick:
Might be CPU-Z, but is it stable? Probably not.Quote:
Originally Posted by pentium777
It's 32m stable lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by J-Mag
DB Updated btw, Pentium777 takes the lead. :clap:
Quote:
Originally Posted by J-Mag
Yes the attachment will show the 32m but more to the point is that the answer to your question would be that I do not intend to use 289 for 24/7 operation, I am stuck at 10x multi to get my max CPU which is currently 2.7 on an x2 4400+ so 24/7 operation I will be 2.6v and 270x10.
I am on air only if I had water might do 280x10, but my testing in 3dmarks05 have proven that past 2.5ghz there is very little improvement in real world 3d gaming. Actually about 1 point per mhz which isn't all that good 100mhz OC for 100 points 3dmark? actually from 2.532 (282x9) it was 8650 or so and 2700 is around 8710 so even less than that. That's at 1024x768 too so think about higher res >=1280x1024 would be gpu bottleneck anyway.
Congrats to everyone pushing higher and harder! :toast:
:nono: :nono: :nono: :nono: :nono: :nono: :nono:
Slightly looser timings but i pulled it off.
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=29081
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/5526/2912vj.th.jpg
DB Updated! Nice work nugzo! :toast:
i just noticed that ocz had annouced their 250mhz 1gb sticks. anyone want to take a crack at em? :D
http://www.ocztechnology.com/product...l_channel-2gb_
Quote:
Originally Posted by ozzimark
You know once you get that sour taste in your mouth from a particular company it is tough to get it out. I spoke with OCZ trying to get memory from them for business and personal about 1 yr ago, our company utilizes server and workstation memory and when I tried to order it was $700-$730 for 2GB ram about 1 yr ago and it was a total fiasco to get 2 sticks for demo testing.
I had to fill out basically enough paperwork to start a bank loan and then the demo price they gave me was practically the price on the market minus about 5%...... Anyway giving them the benefit of the doubt I decided to go through regular "egg" channels to try just 2x512mb of their ram, turned out one stick of ram was bad out of the dual channel 1GB matched set. Returned exchange for Corsair at the time.
I have to say though I have an OCZ powerstream and it went bad within 6 months and tech support (Steve maybe) was excellent got me a new PS quickly and hasslefree. So with all the reading that people like OCZ I guess it is tough to say they aren't good, they probably have great memory just my bad luck at the time.
BTW in case you all curious here I am on XFX 7800 GTX Single card with my 2x1GB Ballistix
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1062325
Still OCing the video should get a bit more out of it.
OCZ has awesome products and pretty damn good service too. i had 2x512 vx gold. Went bad (cold boot issue) they exchanged it for me. I didnt want the VX again so i asked for some tccx and they gave me a set that retailed for $40 more than what i paid for the vx. Returned 2nd day air. If OCZ's memory is even a little better than this ballistix, i will sell the ballistix and get the OCZ.
Quote:
Originally Posted by nugzo
LOL I didn't think we were doing looser timings, and I just noticed this. A bit late at the moment but.... tomorrow you should see 192+ :-)
:stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by pentium777
Hey guys glad to see ya hitting some awsome #'s !!! :toast:
It's good to have a little friendly competition ;)
I'm running mine at 260x11 right now, gave up on trying to get 280+ stable at 10x multi. I'll wait for you guys to figure it out ! lol
BTW, everyone should post the following with there screen shots:
MB, CPU, BIOS Revison, and Cooling (or put in sig) and BIOS settings, such as Tref, Data drive strenght, Dram drive strength, anything that doesn't show up in the A64 tweaker screen shot.
Sharing your findings with the XS community will help everyone push these 1gig sticks !
Quote:
Originally Posted by nugzo
Here is the link again for the 704-2 bios modded by Bigtoe:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=67910
the thread also talks about the issues with using 123% or higher special vid control.
I'm using the 704-2 BT modded bios right now without any problems.
Here's some PQI stuff, haven't found theese chips on the official site, on the ram sticker, it says - ddr400 MDAD-522LA (and no heatsinks)
It's not much, but it looks ok for me. I didn't have much time/experience for better tweaking, but I'm satisfied enough with this :) Was after higher FSB with cas3, but needed the most stable settings for work, thus, there isn't 183 CPU divider for DAGF board :)
Any suggestions would be much appreciated :)
ddr at 2.7V
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=29147
Googled on "MDAD-522LA" and came up with a lot of hits on Italian sites. Maybe that part number is specific to the Europeon/Italian market. Did you get it as a two stick kit or in single stick packaging?
Do they look like this?
http://images10.newegg.com/productim...141-198-01.JPG
In any case, very nice results. I'd like to try a pair if I can track them down in the U.S.
Nugzo I hate you! I messed around last night (couldn't sleep) and did not feel I could achieve a better clock without serious modifications, also do not have my high CFM fans, I don't think the fans would help since the computer room was about 70'F ambient with AC on full blast.Quote:
Originally Posted by nugzo
Since I am pretty much done with stress testing Video GPU/RAM, CPU, and RAM I am going to be reloading my XP SP2 with the 2 raptors that arrived yesterday.
I wanted to give you more competition but I honestly believe I would have to run very looooose timings to achieve it and is kind of counterproductive when thinking of speed.
Am running 500/1350-1400 on XFX BF2 OC Edition 490/1300 stock, 270x10 1.5v dual cores stable in prime for a few hours but Core 0 craps out, if I run Core 0 at 100% it will not have a problem by itself, so I am going to keep it at the 2700 until more multithreaded apps come out that might stress both cores.
Basically I have dual FX-56s (2.7ghz) for a very reasonable price.
Also my best 3DMarks 2005 was 9142, which beats my friend's FX-53 with dual 6800GT SLI
If anyone else runs 3dmarks 05 I'd like to see some scores.
here are some pics, got them like two sticks from my local dealer, haven't seen the package itself and I don't think they came in pair :)Quote:
Originally Posted by gundamit
http://img348.imageshack.us/img348/6...12582mp.th.jpg
and, backside:
http://img348.imageshack.us/img348/8517/img12561ou.jpg
Quote:
Originally Posted by pentium777
3dmark05 8450.
3dmark05 4xAA 8xAF Vert Sync on, Gamma Correct AA on & Transparency AA on Supersampling = 6605
That 6605 with detail almost maxed out is higher than my 6800 ultra with all the above off.
This is off topic so maybe we better continue this in another thread :slapass:
Yes definately off topic :( but is fairly relevant since I know why MOST people wanted 2GB of ram after BF2 launch and if you read OCZ's description of their 2x1GB ram it is very clear lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by nugzo
Thanks for letting me know those scores, I was 8650-8700 Vanilla with 2.532 and stock 490/1300 of the card before any tweaking. Did not yet try 3dmark05 4xAA 8xAF Vert Sync on, Gamma Correct AA on & Transparency AA on Supersampling, I assume you can do this with free version?
My 6800Ultra Gainward golden sample was 5700 with P4 though 3.4EE so I am impressed overall and glad I put the $$$ into this rig.
2GB ram @ 7000-7050 in Sandra right now, I do believe that score is pretty good right? settings 270x10
CPU 23000-23600 or so
a simple observation...
some days arround release of BF2, I was looking for some 2x1GB sticks, found some cas2 corsairs on newegg, the were ~220$. Now, they're 290$... funny, ain't? :D
I will pm u a key for 3dmark05, but you dont need it for those settings. All the AA and AF settings are forced in the nvidia control panel. All games i play run fine at those settings (bf2, hl2 dm, css, swg) Most games only give u AA or AF in their video options. When u set that stuff in nvidia control panel it forces all of those settings in all games.Quote:
Originally Posted by pentium777
1) How much did you pay for these?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ji 4Tze
2) Where did you get them form?
3) If the price is good would you send me some? ;)
Cheers.
Its either 2 of these OCZ
or 1GB of redline... I do play on BF2 now and HL2
if there are any cheaper better 1Gb sticks let me know..
got them from my local reseller (dealer, whatever u name it :)), for a test, wasn't asking the price, but should be ~120€ +-5 (IMO). Dunnow about sending, maybe you should look at some e-stores, like newegg or such, I don't think it would be a best value/price for you, since eg. one CD sent with DHL in London, costed me ~60€.Quote:
Originally Posted by [-Stash-]
I guess if u have 2 fx-56s, then i have 1 fx-57..or damn near it. This CPU was $300. Sure beats $1200 for the fx-57. check the sandra numbers. fx51-57Quote:
Originally Posted by pentium777
http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/1315/2474ya.th.jpg
I know this is offtopic, but I have also noticed that Newegg has some sort of demand algorithim for pricing. I beleive it is based on their notification requests for stock, sales volume vs inventory ratio, and number of hits on their website.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ji 4Tze
Either way it has become less of a cost based e-tailer and more of a value of service based e-tailer.
One hell of an OC man, nice numbers for sure but water + PC I'm just not even close to that extreme, I have to actually work on servers and other networking issues for a living last thing I ever need is to see a drop of water in my PC it would probably send me over the edge of sanity to the loony bin.Quote:
Originally Posted by nugzo
Thanks! I'm not using water yet.. Zalman 7700 HSF. Water is in the near future though. What are you afraid of? its only a $3000 toy. Get some water! If you end up in the loony bin i will come visit! :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by pentium777
http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/5551/antec25wf.jpg
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ji 4Tze
this is a pcb brainpower ;)
Maybe so, but RAM prices suck in the UK right now :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Ji 4Tze
This Mushkin Hi-Performance ram seems pretty good. Looks like my sticks have beaten out Rise's:
10x260 (X2 4400+)
2.5 - 3 - 3 - 6
Here is the cpu-z link:
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=29321
and superpi is attached. This was run at 2.8v on a DFI Lanparty Nf4-UltraD. I have a 92mm fan blowing on the modules in slots 2/4 with 623 bios. I'm gonna try dropping the voltage to 2.7 and see if I can't get the same results.
Good results Professor12 ! :toast:
I'm assuming that they are Infineon BE-5 ? Mushkin Blue ?
Nugzo,
I'm calling you out again to beat my 3-3-3-8 1T @ 289! :fact: :p:
Doh!Quote:
Originally Posted by pentium777
Quote:
Originally Posted by Professor12
Great results. I need that memory. I only need 257*11 !!
What do u want tighter timings?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pentium777