lol electroid, 2.3vcore for 2.4ghz. your cpu must have been crying. ;)
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lol electroid, 2.3vcore for 2.4ghz. your cpu must have been crying. ;)
for you what are the best motherboard's drivers?
i cannot find the morpheus extreme...with google i can't find nothing! :mad:
thanks
http://envynews.com/index.php?ID=626Quote:
Originally Posted by lupacchiotto
How do you do the vcore mod? :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by Electroid
thank you very much centaur for the link...Quote:
Originally Posted by Centaur
i have a doubt...
i have a dfi infinity + amd 2800+ + ati9600pro...i can use "Morpheusware Remix with Abit 4.08 Audio drivers, Extreme Video edition."?
:confused:
Hehe. Congrats... I can use that too :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Electroid
:thumbsup:
Did adding the bypass caps to the back and inside the socket help? I never had a chance to fully test that mod.. :D
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Originally Posted by STEvil
What should it help with? D ;)
Hehe, no caps here, and 2.19V 12.5x260 gaming stable :p:
Dunno, maybe the caps add some stability for prime and pifast :shrug:
SAE...the "Morpheusware Remix with Abit 4.08 Audio drivers, Extreme Video edition" (here... http://envynews.com/index.php?ID=626#C )are for the nf2 with ati cards too?
and this drivers are only for winxp or for win2k and win2k3 too?
thank you very much!!! :)
I used them in win2k and they work fine. not sure bout win2k3 thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by lupacchiotto
thanks FlyingHamster... :D
Don't know. If the cap mod is helping anything. I think my cpu/mobo combo is going over 3.3G SP 1M stable (with LN2 cooling).Quote:
Originally Posted by STEvil
My board still needs more modding. I can't do that isen mod yet, because I ad too big sink to cool fets (with Artic Silver thermal adhesive) :|
And vcore is still jumping up and down (bios, cpu-z).
Normal vcore+vsense mods with 50k vrs (with out vsense vcore was limited to ~2.19V).Quote:
Originally Posted by zeon
Yeah, for all win xp/2k/2k3 versions... and why shouldn't they work with ati cards??? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by lupacchiotto
They work with all cards, just make sure you dl the version without video driver... :D
thanks SAE :D
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Originally Posted by lupacchiotto
No problem :thumbsup:
Any pics or instructions on how to do it? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Electroid
Yep.Quote:
Originally Posted by zeon
Picture here.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...966#post551966Quote:
Originally Posted by zeon
Dunno why you guys don't read the thread before posting...
:stick:
VSense did nothing to me and to many others (all I know of)... Electroid seems to be an exception there.
ok on the cap mod is it better to solder the new ones on the back side to the existing caps or is it better to remove the old caps with bigger ones?? and also use higher uF caps with the same voltages as the stock ones correct?? or use higher volts to?
Let's wait (in this year maybe) and see what happens when cpu is clocked over 3.2G :|.Quote:
Originally Posted by SAE
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Originally Posted by Electroid
Huh? :confused:
Sorry :buddies:Quote:
Originally Posted by SAE
:D :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by zeon
One question:
I have ABIT NF7-S 2.0 now, while new DFI NF2 ULTRA INFINITY laying down on floor...box etc...
Both are same chipset etc ?
I'm using WINDOWS XP...Can i replace mobo using same hdd , withour fresh install of windows xp ?
i have friend who has done it on windows 2000 , dunno how it works on xp...
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Originally Posted by TEDY
It should work, logically, but most of the time it DOES NOT work properly. Secure your data, and just try it. There's no other way than trying...
Gluck! :thumbsup:
Usually I format it, since windows installs different files according to mobo/cpu. That's why I have one partition just for windows, one for swap and the other as backup files :) that way I can format windows without having to backup things up ;)
Good luck!
Yes I think you do, because XP would automatically detect your setting while you're already have necessarry driver for nforce2 mobo so you're all set to change it to your other mobo without reinstalling windows again...Quote:
Originally Posted by TEDY
I guess i'll do fresh install cause i'll be using SATA now as primary hdd hehe....
when you made backup what did you guys backup mostly ?
emails/address/irc logs ?
what else.....
has anybody done this vdimm mod yet?
i think this way is more elegant and works fine. i just searched for another point and found him on the backside :)
whatever I need, work files, movies, mp3 bla bla blaQuote:
Originally Posted by TEDY
:rolleyes:
can you please explain in more detail that VDIMM mod? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by centaur
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Originally Posted by centaur
Looking nice, that thing. :thumbsup:
And not too dangerous for noobs and peeps with some shaky hands ripping everything off the board that's in reach ;)
As it's on the backside of the pcb and not attached to an smd resistor there may not be this much accidents lifting the SMD making the DFI unworkable.
Great job there :D
it's the same mod like the "old" http://xtremesystems.org/forums/show...644#post395644Quote:
Originally Posted by zeon
but i solder on the backside instead of the smd-resistor. no more to say, it works great :banana:
but there isn't much soldering iron, so take care.
You mean, there's not much solder? (Loetzinn) :)Quote:
Originally Posted by centaur
But ain't there much solder at the solder joints of the smds either? :D
[german] ich sollt doch besseres englisch lernen :D [/german]
is "tin-solder" the correct word? :p
there isn't much, but enought
if you're good, you can solder new tin-solder on the small cooper-plate
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Originally Posted by centaur
Hehe :D
Anyway, thanks for the easy mod :) I like it!
Where to enable/disable CPC in BIOS ?
i'm using default bios still...
11/27/03 OFFICIAL
wtf weird reading of voltages ?
+---------------+---------------+----------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+
| | | | Case | CPU | CPU | VCORE | Core 1 | +3.3 | +5.00 | +12.00 | -12.00 | -5.00 | Fan 1 | Fan 2 | Fan 3 |
+---------------+---------------+----------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+
| 12.10.2004 | 16:48:57 | 1838 MHz | 30° C | 30° C | 12° C | 1,28 V | 1,47 V | 3,22 V | 5,00 V | 12,10 V | -12,44 V | 0,54 V | 2743 RPM | 0 RPM | 0 RPM |
| 12.10.2004 | 16:48:52 | 1838 MHz | 29° C | 30° C | 10° C | 1,28 V | 1,49 V | 3,20 V | 5,00 V | 12,10 V | -12,44 V | 0,49 V | 2743 RPM | 0 RPM | 0 RPM |
| 12.10.2004 | 16:48:47 | 1838 MHz | 30° C | 30° C | 9° C | 1,26 V | 1,47 V | 3,22 V | 4,97 V | 12,16 V | -12,44 V | 0,49 V | 2743 RPM | 0 RPM | 0 RPM |
| 12.10.2004 | 16:48:42 | 1838 MHz | 30° C | 30° C | 9° C | 1,28 V | 1,47 V | 3,20 V | 4,97 V | 12,10 V | -12,44 V | 0,49 V | 2743 RPM | 0 RPM | 0 RPM |
| 12.10.2004 | 16:48:37 | 1838 MHz | 30° C | 30° C | 9° C | 1,28 V | 1,47 V | 3,22 V | 4,97 V | 12,10 V | -12,44 V | 0,49 V | 2766 RPM | 0 RPM | 0 RPM |
| 12.10.2004 | 16:48:32 | 1838 MHz | 29° C | 30° C | 10° C | 1,28 V | 1,49 V | 3,22 V | 4,97 V | 12,10 V | -12,35 V | 0,43 V | 2743 RPM | 0 RPM | 0 RPM |
| 12.10.2004 | 16:48:27 | 1838 MHz | 30° C | 30° C | 11° C | 1,26 V | 1,49 V | 3,22 V | 4,97 V | 12,16 V | -12,44 V | 0,54 V | 2766 RPM | 0 RPM | 0 RPM |
| 12.10.2004 | 16:48:22 | 1838 MHz | 30° C | 30° C | 10° C | 1,30 V | 1,47 V | 3,22 V | 4,97 V | 12,10 V | -12,44 V | 0,49 V | 2743 RPM | 0 RPM | 0 RPM |
| 12.10.2004 | 16:48:17 | 1838 MHz | 30° C | 30° C | 9° C | 1,28 V | 1,47 V | 3,22 V | 4,97 V | 12,10 V | -12,44 V | 0,49 V | 2766 RPM | 0 RPM | 0 RPM |
| 12.10.2004 | 16:48:12 | 1838 MHz | 30° C | 30° C | 9° C | 1,26 V | 1,49 V | 3,22 V | 4,97 V | 12,10 V | -12,44 V | 0,43 V | 2743 RPM | 0 RPM | 0 RPM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by TEDY
There's no such option in this old bios revision... you should use 6-19 to get that.
Ja soltest du villeicht:DQuote:
Originally Posted by centaur
Yeeehah, now i know what I'm going to when I get that feeling agian...
yep SAE fixed that
and MBM5 voltage readings too...only VDD missing hehe
Great :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by TEDY
hey guys, if my games crash, but my comp doesnt freeze, what does that usually mean? do I need more vcore? agp? vdimm???
cuz right now im trying to get 240x11 stable. at 1.975 in bios, 3.2vdimm, 1:1 ratio, 1.6vagp, 66 agp
just thought i'd hear your suggestions. :D
have weird system...doesnt work more then 210 at all geeze
was able to "burn in" khx3000/512 today 225mhz memtest cpc on.....etc...
weird weird
I can't get anything stable beyond 200!
Fresh new!
Please advice.....
and post your bios timings alpha and etc....wtf am i doing wrong ?
khx3000/512 is in slot 3 dimm 1....
i know it's not memory.....worked 220 easily on nf7-s 2.0
starting to get piss off this dfi....
try BIOS change...even though you're using newest default BIOS...but sometimes default BIOS won't do u any good for fsb 200 and above...you got to use modded driver...try oscar wu or hell fire one....
i'm so scary to flash it...without bios savior :>
c mon, ur on the XTREME systems forums. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by TEDY
but yea, it might not be a good idea to flash w/out the bios savior. I would try HF's 3EG Rev 3 bios. I dont know a single person who had a bad flash with that bios. and its a great one too btw. :D
try winflash that comes with your mobo cd...I've done it several times without a single hickup...I'd even change it with the newer and older BIOS forward and back...winflash is very usable just keep in mind before using it...don't overclock your system...try to load "optimal setting" at BIOS bedore you flashed it with winflash...and load it again at the first time you reboot after you flashed...do the reboot again...then you're ready to do some serious OC :)Quote:
Originally Posted by TEDY
all of that without bios saviour :D
Morpeus Remix Extreme video driverset
seems can't find it :(
I hope this is what you're looking forQuote:
Originally Posted by TEDY
All Morpheus driver :
http://www.envynews.com/index.php?ID=626
that's it thanks :>
Sorry if its a little bit late...
I try 1/21 and 1/31 BIOS....
1/21 BIOS do prime95 for 11seconds
1/31 BIOS do prime95 for 2minutes and more (I stopped it since it longer than the 1/21)
I heard that 1/21 use 133Mhz ROM sip table?..how this is possible...does the use of BIOS is very dependent on hardware too???
what's the next update BIOS which use the "exact" same as 1/31 ROMSIP table?
btw for testing I use this spec :
Barton Mobile 2600+ (250x8) at 1,65v (btw at 1,65v its prime stable at 2,4Ghz,so proc won't be the problem)
Corsair PC3500 2x256 BH5@250Mhz@3,3v
Vdd@1,9v
memory timing 2-2-2-11-12-15
what's difference between 6/19 and Hellfire's Rev#3 ?
Many code optimizations... and performance-stability-modded romsip tables :DQuote:
Originally Posted by TEDY
It's the best one for me. I dunno, he may have changed the sata bios, too.
Hello Guys, sorry for the OT... someone knows if ocz ddrbooster work on dfi infinity?
Thanks ;)
No, it won't. The booster works using the 3.3V rail, the DFI NF2U400 boards (Inf./LP B) use the 5V rail.Quote:
Originally Posted by Remixes
Thanks SAE, you are clearly as always ;)
Compliment for you 30' second in superpi with A32... in these month we will try to get the same result but...12,5X264 is too difficult to keep :D
See you soon
It runs from the 5/12 rails SAE.
So???? You 're saing that ddrbooster can works on dfi?
dual channel works properly?
Have you try it?
Sorry for the many question but I've just killed one more mainbord :D
nope it doesnt work on DFI NF/INF as SAE said...just do vdimm mod on mobo to boost vdimm to 3.6vdimm LOL
I'm a dreamer :D
Thx Guys ;)
Heard about those mixed drivers, but do they ready make any difference, compared to official NVidia ones? Which do you use SAE ? I've always used the officials, since they are constantly updated and never had any trouble with them...
PS: Now testing @ 255x10.5 @ 2.0v... gotta do vdimm mod & vcore mod to see what can I get from this sucker :D
Thanks. Good luck catching me :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Remixes
Hehe, that's equal ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by STEvil
I meant, it only works with boards using the 3.3V rail for vdimm... :D
Yeah, the ones powered from +5 dont like the feedback I guess.
Could disconnect the power supply to the mosfets and they'd work fine I bet... but dont take my word on this ;)
I am still using the rmx 3.30 extreme without the hdd driver... but with my internet rig I am using the 5.15 package official with ide driver without major probs ;)
Hehe.... guys, don't take this guy seriously ;) :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by STEvil
lol ;)
Where i can find this remix driver forn nf2?Quote:
Originally Posted by SAE
I've always used 2.03 fors system bench and 5.15 for sytem "all days" :D :)
what?? :rolleyes: ...you could still at least see this page first...I gave tedy the link to all morpheus remix, and it still on this page :wave:Quote:
Originally Posted by Remixes
Sorry Massive :( , now I 've find all I need
Driver, alpha timing setting, mainboard mod and bios ("Hellfire Bios for Infinity Rev#3").
Thx :)
My Infinity runs Prime95 @ 260MHz 1h+, but over 260 it just goes unstable. SP 1M runs sometimes 266MHz, but 8M not even 264MHz.
I dont'n think my mem (Memtest @ 264MHz 1h+ @ 5-2-2-2, SP 1M @ 274MHz) is limiting FSB.
AXP-M 2500+, L12 mod, Vdd 2.01V (stock sink + 80mm fan), Vdimm 3.6-3.7V @ 11-2-2-2-2-9-12 e-e-f-e 1-3-3-3-3-3-4, Hellfire 1/21 RS rev#3 bios, ACPI enabled
:confused:
No, that's the board limiting ya! As mine is limiting me... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Electroid
And if you also noticed the errors in memtest at 266 dualchannel (only a few - but still there), at singlechannel you can increase the clocks alot higher till error appear. NB is maxed, board design is maxed, vregulation is maxed... it's just not made for clocks like ours :D
damn...such a board you got there...I wish mine could do the same too :rolleyes: ....Quote:
Originally Posted by Electroid
I'm curious...you're using Kingston PC2700...did it get very hot using it on that voltage?
have you other BIOS?...maybe it BIOS related too?
and SAE, how did you know that its mobo limited not ram limited?
I think thats the pc3000 or pc3200. CPU-z just doesnt recognize that ram correctlyQuote:
Originally Posted by Massive
I did some testing with the sticks in a single config... and they are supposed to run 275 on A64 easily ;) (3.4-3.5V)Quote:
Originally Posted by Massive
Hehe, the single stick that's not causing any errors (up to much higher speeds (270), but does in dual config, definately indicates some kinda board limitation :D
how did you made vdimm mod on dfi NF2 ULTRA INFINITY ?
how does it rail after mod ? from 2.9 to 3.6 ?
The common way... Infinity's and LP B's vdimm mod is exactly the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by TEDY
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...threadid=26412
Hmm. What do you wanna know about the voltages??? I set the voltage to max in bios (3.3V) and go from there. 3.56V! More is too much for my poor old LP B... it cannot hold the voltage steadily and droops too much. That's what's causing instabilities. And I got the feeling it's already a problem with my current voltage.
Well, if I'm allowed, I put all the DFI Lanparty Ultra B on my sign... of course, all credits go to the owners of the posts I took them from (can't remember who posted them :eek: )
instead of sodlering new smd's for the ocp, could you just draw on them with a pencil like the 9800xt vmods?
No. Don't do that. You want to increase resistance, not to lower it. If you lower the resistance there, it would effect the current negatively thus allowing less current to get through the mosfets to the cpu.Quote:
Originally Posted by mysticdrew
ya duh, i didnt read close enough heh... No electronic stores around here have those smd resistors, so i'll just have to use normal relsistors with 5% var.
hey guys, i gotta quick question here....
have u ever seen benchmark-stable FSB of higher than 252 with multis 9.5/10/10.5 ???
the reason i ask is that my so far max stable ( superpi16M-32M, PIFast, 3DMark01 and PCMark04 ) OC would be 259x9 11-2-2 cas2. i can get to Windows at 259FSB with above mentioned multis but Sandra locks and none of the benchmarks are possible to complete.
also i can do 251x11, but i can't do 251x10.5... is there any limitation as there was with NF7-S that Tictac fixed with a BIOS revision?
Hmm... I am not sure as I always use multipliers higher than 11 ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by bachus_anonym
But it may be there's a limitation, 10.5x is said to be the multiplier with the best bandwidth on Tictac's bioses (other modded ones too!?). Maybe that's the problem.
I may try 270x10.5 today ;)
thanx SAE,
i wish i could use anything higher that 250 @ multi x11 :p
well, maybe soon something is gonna change in that direction ;)
anyway, at the moment i can pull of set of benches @ 260x9 :thumbsup: but my goal is to get closer to you as far as FSB goes ( at least for now ;) )
Hmm. Are you using the abit of dfi for these settings/benches??Quote:
Originally Posted by bachus_anonym
I am currently doing an 8m superpi at 10.5x269... you mean, the 16/32m are causing the problems??? Erm, maybe there's the link between the highest bandwidth and lowest stability at 10.5x! Could be the chipset.
I'll report back later, commander ;)
whoa! i guess i need to look a little bit deeper then...
to be honest with you i just started playing with all those Alpha timmings, Driving Strength, etc and i see some improvements as far as stability goes...
tommorow i'll get to play with 10.5 one more time... if i somehow get 260x10.5 to work then i will be extremely happy camper :)
thanx for your help, master :)
:DQuote:
Originally Posted by bachus_anonym
At least the 16m works well at 10.5x269 :)
(slack alpha timings though(alphas for gaming), 11-2-2-2-2.0)
edit. And see the 16M at 11x multiplier :D
:banana: :banana: :banana: :slobber: Dude, your sick! :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by SAE
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Originally Posted by zeon
Bah... :bs: ;)
how can you guys run DFI NFII INF at 2.0vcore ?
i heard that some mod has to be done ?
something about
DFI LP/Infinity high Vcore fluctuation problem
how can it be detected ?
point me to
Vcore,V-DIMM,V-OPC,V-Drop,V-Sense and VDD Mods
what's OPC / DROP and Sense ? LOL
Please read some pages back in this thread... I attached a pic/description of all the important mods to my post.Quote:
Originally Posted by TEDY
OCP is overcurrent protection, generally there's less current flowing through the DFI's mosfets to the cpu than on the abit nf7 for example. The mod corrects that.
VDroop is a mod to smoothen out droops in the current/voltage graph (a dip in the curve) and allows a higher stable vcore with less fluctuation.
Sense does not really make any SENSE :lol: Don't do it- it's useless here.
SAE 15 pages to read...ouch
ich habbe keine zeit :P
/me spank my bad deutche uber alless :D
hey magdeburg seems familiar....handball team ? ja wohl
remember game against celje from slovenija LOL
Have everything you need on my signature :DQuote:
Originally Posted by TEDY
Oh, there's my pic...
hello dudes i really need a good advise on this one:
hell yes, i'm a complete amateur when it comes to soldering - but i needed the vdimm mod because i got some bh-6 sticks that won't even do 240 11-2-2-2-2.0-9-12 DC stable at 3,3V (3,28V shown in BIOS, 3,36V measured on the board). so i wanted to go for at least 3.5 or 3,6V to see what these poor sticks can do :D
while trying to do the vdimm mod, i accidently unsoldered that small resistor that u have to solder on. yeah i guess i was touching that resistor just a notch too long and then it glued on my soldering iron. oh sh1t!! :D
now i measured the resistor and it says 123k ohms (with some solder left on it)
now my question do you folks think i can rescue the board (and how ??? :slobber: )
what would happen if i tried to run the board without the resistor (probably not much as it wont boot at all i guess) ??
i will ask my dad if he can fix the whole thing for me but its not easy to solder that tiny resistor back in its place you need a very calm hand :rolleyes: so he might not be able to... anyways i hope you can support me with some advice thank you all in advance :)
Hi Jens.
I often rescued boards like yours... you can either solder wires to the solderpads and place a 200k/150k multiturn cermet pot (25 turns from conrad electonics) inbetween. Or you just solder the SMD back onto the board.
I often worked with SMDs on my boards and the first slot a athlons (cache divider ;) ) - it does not have the perfect machined looks, but works and looks okay :D
... my testing continues...
so after playing around with my mobo i might be getting somewhere...
vdd maxed @ 1.90v (1.93v at multimeter), vdimm @ 3.55v... this is max what i can get before either system don't post or sandra hard-locks on me big time: 260x9 or 255x10 or 252x10.5. upping vdimm makes no difference at all.
my question is: did modded vdd (above 2.00v) make any difference to those of you with high (i mean HIGH :) ) FSB speeds, especially at higher multis? i'm about to do it anyway but just wanted to get hand-on experience from, eg. SAE or Electron or others...
thanx guys,
Between stock and 1.95v got me nothing. 263fsb @ 3.6v or so was about all my board could do..