G.SKILL TridentX 2400MHz modular - great and cheap $99

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Originally Posted by Reefa_Madness

Earlier dated post from another thread:



Any possible connection between the above post and the RMA request??? :)

By the way, glad to hear that you got HCH9. Certainly more upside potential with those, then again it appears that GSkill is binning the heck out of those Samsung chips to get the high end stuff so maybe not.

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Assuming I keep them, that is. The originals were among my best CFR sticks, I have enough Samsung. Now the only good Hynix I have are the Vengeance 2400 C10 (admittedly strong, they can do 2666 C11 stock volts).

So, 2400C10 Trident X current batches are single-sided Samsung only/mostly, for 2x4GB kits.

What about 2x8GB Kits ? Should be double sided normally ?

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Originally Posted by felix_w

So, 2400C10 Trident X current batches are single-sided Samsung only/mostly, for 2x4GB kits.

What about 2x8GB Kits ? Should be double sided normally ?

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Yeah but...16 chips of Samsung K4B4G0846D-HCH9 per stick is even worse than 8. They just don't want to go any higher than 2550. The best 4Gbit IC out there for overclocking this far is Hynix MFR.

Which is 2600C10 and 2666C11 ? Or have i got it wrong? I've read these 8 pages again and again, but i thing i've confused the facts a bit...

2600C10 = double-sided Samsung K4B2G0846D-HCH9
2666C11 = double-sided Hynix H5TQ2G83CFR or single-sided Hynix H5TQ4G83MFR

For a bencher 2600C10 all the way !

Here's a new review of these (4x4GB), marked as AB40 which would make one think Hynix but the timings they got out of them seem more like Samsung: http://www.pc-max.de/artikel/arbeits...16gb-ram/11428

Yep doesn't seem to act as Hynix. What is it with these sites lately: no proof of stability at all. So easy to put down these sticks run 2800Mhz without any valid screenshot... big sigh...

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Originally Posted by Shiranui Gen-An

Here's a new review of these (4x4GB), marked as AB40 which would make one think Hynix but the timings they got out of them seem more like Samsung: http://www.pc-max.de/artikel/arbeits...16gb-ram/11428

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By now I'm pretty sure that AB40 can be both Samsung and Hynix. On the 2666CL11 kit AB40 was Hynix for sure, on the 2400CL10 kits AB40 must be Samsung since they can do those weird timings and they only clock to ~DDR-2550 max like other Samsung 4Gb B-rev chips.

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Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

Yep doesn't seem to act as Hynix. What is it with these sites lately: no proof of stability at all. So easy to put down these sticks run 2800Mhz without any valid screenshot... big sigh...

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They do provide a statement regarding the supposed stability tests they use (translated from the German):

Benchmarks and test methods:

We determine the throughput and delay memory means of the built-in benchmark tool AIDA64 software. To the stability for overclocking and Under Volten explore, we resort to Memtest86 + and Prime 95th Both test programs run for several hours.

I speak german Shi, but I still don't have proof of any kind, without a valid screenshot.

Best quote of the year 2012 comes frm my favourite web:banana::banana::banana::banana:e hardwareheaven, review done with the 2666C10 Doms :

With 2800MHz achieved we then tweaked the timings and voltage which allowed us to hit 3000MHz with 11-12-12-32-2T and 1.75v.

Overclocking was a simple process on the Dominator Platinum, a simple BIOS change had the sticks running at 2800MHz and a few more tweaks got us to 3000MHz. Plenty of flexibility there.

If them timings are true those must be the best sticks and Ivy IMC on air ever... and yes they probably even did it with 16GB :p

Sorry for the derail of the thread Movieman :p

Enthusiast ram that doesn't over clock is a big let down.

These sticks let me down big time. I have the AB40 single sided kit and it was a big let down. Seems like only a few rare sets were sold with the double sided IC's.

Sadly for us the RAM vendors don't have to warrant anything, every MHz we can squeeze out of them are an extra...

Imagine paying a premium for the higher binned (+2600MHz) sticks and they let you down, that would be even more painfull... that's overclocking man in it's purest form...

I think the biggest question with the Trident X 2400C10 kits is..."Why?" Why use four different ICs? It's not like there is a shortage of Hynix CFR or Samsung 2Gbit HCH9. Why even bother with the high density stuff on a kit that is composed of 4GB sticks???

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Sadly for us the RAM vendors don't have to warrant anything, every MHz we can squeeze out of them are an extra...

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While that is a true statement and I agree with you...in this particular case it sure seems like GSkill sent out a bunch of review samples using ICs that were not going to be used on but the fewest of the retail products.

I feel like we were subjected to the old "bait-and-switch" con on this model. Maybe that's a bit harsh, but there were way too many variations of this product and few of them matched what the reviewers got.

With ram it's sometimes quite similar to good CPU batches, grab them while they are hot !

G.Skill TridentX 2400 MHz in review
http://pctuning.tyden.cz/hardware/pr...pameti?start=1

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G.Skill TridentX 2400 MHz in review
http://pctuning.tyden.cz/hardware/pr...pameti?start=1
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my chips samsung are not good, then do not like 2600, I decided to try down the timings.

are now 2400MHz with 9-11-12-19 @ 1.685V

With regards to the Asus Maximus V Gene's QVL (Qualified Vendors List) the memory listed at the 2400 speed are all 4 GHz modules. I'm looking at getting 16 GB of memory. The TridentX comes as both a 4x4 GB kit and a 2x8 GB kit. I had thought that it was easier to OC a board with less memory modules in it. Could someone please enlighten me. The timings are the same for both of these kits. The price of the 2x8 GB kit is also cheaper than the 4x4 GB kit. Why wouldn't the 2 module kit work just as well and why wouldn't the Qualified Vendors List list this?

Anyone have the new cl9? http://www.pccomponentes.com/g_skill...2x4gb_cl9.html
More IC Lottery??? I wait to have them the next week.:cool:

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Originally Posted by PetGz

Anyone have the new cl9? http://www.pccomponentes.com/g_skill...2x4gb_cl9.html
More IC Lottery??? I wait to have them the next week.:cool:

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2400 CL9 is likely to be Samsung either HCH9 or HYK0.

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Originally Posted by PetGz

Anyone have the new cl9? http://www.pccomponentes.com/g_skill...2x4gb_cl9.html
More IC Lottery??? I wait to have them the next week.:cool:

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If they are good at over clocking I might get a kit.

Right now AVEXAR 2666mhz CL 11 1.65v kit can be had for $129.99.... and Corsair Vengence 1.5v CL9 can be had for $69.99... at newegg.

2400mhz CL9 1.65mhz for $99 really doesn't seem like that great of a deal especially since some people are over clocking the cheap 8GB Samsung kits to around teh same speeds and volts.


I like Gskill ram but I find their kits becoming more expensive and less over clock friendly.

If this kit was 2400mhz CL9 1.5v I would be all over it for $99.

Very few Samsung kits are going to do 2400 C9 at 1.65v and 1.5v is probably impossible, those are well binned and frankly the only 2400 C9 kits around aside from Corsair's Vengeance and Dominator Platinum kits. I have 4x4GB of the new Trident X C9 sticks on the way.

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Originally Posted by Razmatazz

With regards to the Asus Maximus V Gene's QVL (Qualified Vendors List) the memory listed at the 2400 speed are all 4 GHz modules. I'm looking at getting 16 GB of memory. The TridentX comes as both a 4x4 GB kit and a 2x8 GB kit. I had thought that it was easier to OC a board with less memory modules in it. Could someone please enlighten me. The timings are the same for both of these kits. The price of the 2x8 GB kit is also cheaper than the 4x4 GB kit. Why wouldn't the 2 module kit work just as well and why wouldn't the Qualified Vendors List list this?

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It will probably work, they can't test every kit out there. The thing with 8GB sticks is, the higher density the IC, the less overclockability.

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Originally Posted by Shiranui Gen-An

Very few Samsung kits are going to do 2400 C9 at 1.65v and 1.5v is probably impossible, those are well binned and frankly the only 2400 C9 kits around aside from Corsair's Vengeance and Dominator Platinum kits. I have 4x4GB of the new Trident X C9 sticks on the way.

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1.5V is impossible, I saw it too, but looks like the site has been updated and it's 1.65V now, same as on Newegg. Also the same spec as the TeamGroup 2400CL9 kit.

The TeamGroup kit is available for 89€ in Germany, the G.Skill kit has been listed today for ~95€.

With 1.53v at default timings except 1T.

http://imageshack.us/a/img856/5323/spi1m.png

http://imageshack.us/a/img27/5573/spi32m.png

Those are the 2400 C9 kit? If so, would you mind sharing the 5th-8th digits of the S/N (1500 or 2500)?

Also, what voltage does it take to run them at 2400 C9...the default 1.65v?

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Originally Posted by Reefa_Madness

Those are the 2400 C9 kit? If so, would you mind sharing the 5th-8th digits of the S/N (1500 or 2500)?

Also, what voltage does it take to run them at 2400 C9...the default 1.65v?

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No its not c9 kit.

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Originally Posted by Reefa_Madness

Those are the 2400 C9 kit? If so, would you mind sharing the 5th-8th digits of the S/N (1500 or 2500)?

Also, what voltage does it take to run them at 2400 C9...the default 1.65v?

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I got one of those Kits ... they may run 2400 C9 around 1.62 ... they got Samsung HYK0 on them.

Pushed them up to 2800 C10 with ~ 1.72 vDimm SuperPi 32M stable.

http://www.abload.de/thumb/gsk24cl9_...10-12xvujp.jpg

They dont like VDimm above 1.75 ... which is no big suprise ... HYKO specified for max 1.6 by Samsung.

Quick test 2X2 Gskill 2400C9 BFR

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@Dumo
8-11-10 impossible?

@gungstar

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Crazy. I wish I could get my hands on that kit of BFR 2400 C9.

These 2400C9 BFR were sitting on US ebay for months with BIN having gradually dropped from $300-ish to $179.
I know because I've been practicing self-controlling techniques watching this kit get cheaper and cheaper :D

I've no idea what these scores are doing in a TridentX thread since 2400 9-11-10 have a thread of their own :)

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These 2400C9 BFR were sitting on US ebay for months with BIN having gradually dropped from $300-ish to $179.
I know because I've been practicing self-controlling techniques watching this kit get cheaper and cheaper :D

I've no idea what these scores are doing in a TridentX thread since 2400 9-11-10 have a thread of their own :)

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I just had to snipe them Sam:D

Roy and I split that kit, going cold in a bit:cool:

@Dumo thanx, same voltage as 8-11-11?

PS Please type my nick same as i registered here at XS - "gungstar" not "Gungstar"

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Originally Posted by gungstar

@Dumo thanx, same voltage as 8-11-11?

PS Please type my nick same as i registered here at XS - "gungstar" not "Gungstar"

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+.01V to 1.87V.

I will do, apologize bout that.

Got an RMA kit from G.SKILL weird sticks...

2400 C10-11-11-31 perfectly possible at 1.68Vdimm, sadly no CAS9 not even at 1.75Vdimm

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/66364457/G.S...0c10-1132M.jpg

Scaling nicely up to 2600MHz C10-12-12-31 1.71Vdimm

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/66364457/G.S...0-12-12-31.jpg

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/66364457/G.S...-ycruncher.jpg

But all stability tests fail at 2666MHz no matter the voltages, timings set...

Would be interestig to know what serialnumber these have, four digits after production date, and if these are single or dual sided.

Pretty sure this is HYK0 low-binned stuff,this behaviour is very similar to samsung low-profle sticks,can s-pi 2400 9-11-11 at 1.8 but no way to stability.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/66364457/G.S...00/2400c10.jpg

I'll try to open them and see what's inside... first 1.8Vdimm

Even very bad OEM D-rev would at least boot 1200 CL9 at 1.75V, so these might be E-rev (aka the "successor") which G.Skill had to eventually start using.

2400C9 passed at 1.8, tried 2450, failed at loop 8... C9 boots at 1.72, but errors in loop 1

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Originally Posted by TaPaKaH

These 2400C9 BFR were sitting on US ebay for months with BIN having gradually dropped from $300-ish to $179.
I know because I've been practicing self-controlling techniques watching this kit get cheaper and cheaper :D

I've no idea what these scores are doing in a TridentX thread since 2400 9-11-10 have a thread of their own :)

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I was watching those, I guess I hoped they'd go below $179:shakes:

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Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

2400C9 passed at 1.8, tried 2450, failed at loop 8... C9 boots at 1.72, but errors in loop 1

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my kit "1500" CL10, with this in asrock OC formula

1.68/1.69V

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/8477/cl9subs2.jpg

Is your "1500" kit a single, or double-sided? The DS ones were the better clocking ones.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/66364457/G.S...400/2500c9.jpg

1.8Vdimm and some tertiary timings set

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Originally Posted by Reefa_Madness

Is your "1500" kit a single, or double-sided? The DS ones were the better clocking ones.

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Double-sided

Thanks...and explains a lot. :)

My "1500" kits were all single-sided. :(

I'm seeing a pattern with that x500 nomenclature, single sided kits being 1 and dual being 2...

What ic/serial do the 69usd 2x4gb Trident x 2400mhz kits have normally?*

*Newegg pricing

Done with only 1.66 Vdimm:

1300Mhz 10-12-12-31 1T

http://s1.directupload.net/images/us...p/7dxs6zgq.jpg

Nice piece of hardware:up:

Hey camouflage, good to see you around again! :up:

i really want to pick up a 4x4gb kit of this stuff to replace my ripjaw z 2400 kit

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Originally Posted by NKrader

i really want to pick up a 4x4gb kit of this stuff to replace my ripjaw z 2400 kit

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There shouldn't be any difference in performance if they're using the same ICs; I'm guessing you prefer the look of the Trident X sticks?

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Originally Posted by Shiranui Gen-An

There shouldn't be any difference in performance if they're using the same ICs; I'm guessing you prefer the look of the Trident X sticks?

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mostly yes.

Replaced board and cooling - now using Corsair H60 & AsRock Z77 Extreme4.

This is best I can do so far with the sticks:


http://s14.directupload.net/images/u...p/nobzzkgk.jpg


Bandwith seems to be very good for Z77 chipset with this combo.

Think they are HYNIX so they don't reflect much on raising voltage and 1300MHz is max for 32M.

Just ordered a 8GB pair G.SKILL TrindentX 2400 CL9 sticks, maybe I can break 40k in AIDA64 write. :D

This should be SAMSUNG - looking forward even get better 32M also.

BTW - nice to get remebered after all the years.......................:welcome:

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Originally Posted by camouflage

Think they are HYNIX so they don't reflect much on raising voltage and 1300MHz is max for 32M.

Just ordered a 8GB pair G.SKILL TrindentX 2400 CL9 sticks, maybe I can break 40k in AIDA64 write. :D

This should be SAMSUNG - looking forward even get better 32M also.

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Actually, the Trident X 2400C10 kits are 99.9% Samsung 4Gb chips, you can check your serial number in this thread. These chips max out somewhere between 1250 and 1300 MHz and don't scale on voltage.

The 2400C9 kits are Samsung 2Gb chips and they'll scale a lot better than the kit you have right now! ;)

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BTW - nice to get remebered after all the years.......................:welcome:

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Sure! :)

Hm, 3 days delivery delay...............:( - have to wait for the CL9 a bit longer.

BTW: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...64-or-maxxmem2

Strange issue, someone with similar problem around here?

:usa: ------------> G@@D job in soccer world championship btw............

camouflage, as far as i remember there was a change in the way that AIDA64 benchmark calculates performance rates after a specific version ( i believe it was 4.30, maybe i'm wrong though)

you can check it at the AIDA64 update thread by stasio, i think it was mentioned there...try to run the benchmark with an old version.

in case that is what's happening to your benchmarks, then maxxmem2 is just underestimating memory performance

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Originally Posted by felix_w

camouflage, as far as i remember there was a change in the way that AIDA64 benchmark calculates performance rates after a specific version ( i believe it was 4.30, maybe i'm wrong though)

you can check it at the AIDA64 update thread by stasio, i think it was mentioned there...try to run the benchmark with an old version.

in case that is what's happening to your benchmarks, then maxxmem2 is just underestimating memory performance

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Hey felix,

thx for information. Appreciate it.

Nice to know - will try older version of AIDA then.

:welcome:

OK - 2400 CL9 kit in da house. Just one quick 32M @4Ghz with a lot of rubbish running in background:shocked::


http://s14.directupload.net/images/u...6/luv63ltv.jpg


But stable with tweaked timings - I can even set tras to 25 and trfc to 147.

I did not touch the voltage - it's still 1.65v.

40k in write is hard to break @ 1300Mhz but i broke 39k in read and 37k in copy.

Latency is also nice. This RAM is insane.:up: