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is there any different between bios f6d with f6???
yes F6 is the latest (official bios) & obviously newer than F6d, some of the changes are memory compatibility related
Thank god work is being done on memory compatibility.....right now it is SHOCKING.
890GPA-UD3H with Athlon x2 5200+ and F3-12800CL7D-8GBXH ram gave 3.95GHz on unlocked cpu (became x4 with L3 cache) and 1800MHz ram speed.
GA-990FXA-UD3 with same cpu and ram is unstable when unlocked cpu, and even when cpu is locked ram can't make rated speed at rated timings and cpu only stable at 3.4GHz. Ram always wants to run at silly loose timings.
@dinos22 or Sin0822 i have two questions since you seem to be in the know with gigabyte;
Are there any indications that modules can be unlocked on these FX just like cores on Phenom?
I have a Rev1.0 990FXA-UD3 that has very crackly sound from the onboard 3.5mm jacks and popping from HDMI......is this a known issue and maybe down to drivers for the dolby realtek chip or have i just got a broken board?
I jumped from F5 to F6 on my FXA990-UD7. I'm using Phenom II X4 965BE and some old G.Skill (SPD W21,2007) that wants 1.9v. (And here I can add a wish for adding up to 2.3V for DIMM ;) )
When running CAS7 and F5 I could boot with 1880MHz and then up the ram with AOD to 1920MHz. Now I have big problem doing that. I can boot with 1904MHz and then raise to 1920MHz.
To be able to run benches at 1920MHz, I have to loose some timings with AOD, that I did not have to do earlier. (I'm not at home now so I can't check exactly which setting I had to lower, but I had to lower something like 50NBCK to 54NBCK)
I have not done that much testing yet, but I guess there's some changing with timings wich hopefully will make some boost for some people. :)
Does AMD Overdrive or Gigabyte EasyTune 6 actually work for anyone else out there with a 990FXA-UD3? Neither one will actually change multipliers for me and they both read some frequencies and voltages wrong. I have to make all changes in the BIOS.
@blossa: At least on my UD3 with an 8120, F4 wouldn't POST with my DDR3-2000 memory set above 1600. On F5B I could do 2000 stable. Perhaps your board is in a similar position where a future BIOS update alone will help.
Particle: It is not a big issue. :) I just posted to inform others that MAYBE they should try to loosen some timings before saying it is a bad BIOS. ;)
Btw, EasyTunes don't work good at all for me either. However, I havn't spent much time with it so maybe it works better for others.
So, anyone had a chance to test BD with the new BIOS? Any news worth mentioning?
Dino would know better than I, but I don't think you can unlock like you can with phenom II.Quote:
Originally Posted by Augustus
Both work, but not with multiplier. At least with easytune, AMD OD is the only way to do over 1.9v under LN2, and HTT i like to change with easytune.Quote:
Originally Posted by Particle
I installed alld rivers tho, maybe you are missing somthing?
Got my 990FXA-UD3 today. It says Rev 1.0 on the PCB, but it looks a little different then the picture of 1.0 on the website. It has the "SLI" logo where it is on the 1.2 board, and the "SATA" logo is to the right of the SB heatsink instead of under it.
Augustus you may have either faulty speakers or faulty board if you hear popping. check with another set of speakers before you can conclude which is at fault
in terms of unlocking older chips i will ask, i think i have one somewhere to check but im away for a week from today so cant really do anything till i get back, hopefully someone can give me heads up but i dont see why it wouldnt unlock older chips
Need some help with making the correct choice, as many are having some kind of issue with there 990FX mobo, be it Giga, Asus or MSI whic one would you guys/ladies advice? I am leaning towards the UD7 as it looks a stunning mobo.
Just curious but why would you buy a bulldozer cpu?Quote:
Originally Posted by Swanie
What's the difference between ud3 rev 1.0 and 1.2 ? Only esata controller? I've noticed some different components displacement around cpu area.
i think esata controller & 1394 header on bottom of board or something along those lines
Trying to test out my 8120 with the F5 BIOS. No matter what I do, it throttles back to 2.8Ghz when stress testing. All power saving stuff is off, turbo and CPB are off, C1E, C6, CNQ, all that is off. Tried OCing just to 3.8 and it still drops down to 2.8.
To play with, have fun with. Bored with my I7 and it a dead productQuote:
Originally Posted by m_jones_
Well got my UD7 and man what a stunning mobo. Installed it my chassis with a 965 until my 8150P arrives.
Thanks for the replies dinos22 and sin0822.Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
I've pretty much given up on unlocking Phenom (as i'm definitley getting an FX of some description) on this board and was more wondering about the FX unlocking. What AMD are saying about unlocking FX they also said about Phenom yet the MB manufacturers still managed it. I'd be interested to find out what seemingly borked modules on FX can still do as i've had a fair few Phenom that turned out to be great even with so-called faulty cores; it all adds to the fun!
While this may be of little comfort, do know that it's not just you. My 8120 does the same thing. Specifically what is happening seems to be that the TDP estimation part of turbo isn't properly disabled. You'll note that the further you overclock the more cores are throttled and for longer. You'll actually start going negative in performance gains somewhere between 4.3 and 4.6 GHz due to it. Any setting beyond 14x is going to cause it, however, so no matter what your BD isn't going to perform as well as it would on other boards. Your chip is going to head back to a 14x multiplier (on an 8120) to be precise. Consequently, if you want to mitigate the problem in the mean time between now and when Gigabyte fixes it in a future BIOS, you can overclock using a high HTT and lower multiplier to reduce the impact. It sort of negates the purpose of a black edition, but it'll work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cecil
I experienced the same issue and supplied a solution a few days ago in this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Particle
Load AMD overdrive. Enable turbocore, hit OK. Disable turbocore, hit ok.
Tadaaaa! No more throttling. It works.....use it! I found this in one of the online reviews. It disables the power management.
I remembered having read something about it and did try that, but the problem is that AOD doesn't seem to work on the UD3. Changing settings in it does nothing, including toggling Turbo.
Load-line calibration is adjustable by software, rev 1.0 this wasnt possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barr3l Rid3r
Worked for me. But my board and or CPU died running prime at 3.8 with 1.28v with max temp of 53C.Quote:
Originally Posted by Particle
I have a UD7 and it sufferes some pretty serious Vdroop. It forces me to use insane voltages just so it hits the right voltage when it is under load. So far i have had my 8120 up to 5.175Ghz single thread stable(superpi) and 5.060Ghz 8 thread stable (wprime). But i have to use 1.725V which droops all the way down to 1.61V when loaded. I am using decent water cooling and i am only just starting to hit low 60C. So right in the thermal limit. Does anyone know how to disable modules so i can do a CPU-Z suicide run? I am at may ceiling with all modules running and want to see if teh thermal load is reduced by disabling cores/modules.
Need to set 1.7V to get 1.55V under load...Quote:
Originally Posted by kirbster1966
It looks like I am wrong. It didn't work last weekend when I tried it on F5B, but AOD does appear to do the Turbo trick on BIOS F5 (released Monday). Excellent. Thanks for mentioning it as I'd written it off as a dead end already.
Hi guys...
Someone has tested the UD3 with Thuban? (1055t or 1090t)... it's just arrived to my hardware store so i wanna know before i buy it.
Thanks guys :)
I'll test it for you. I have a 1090T on the shelf. It's on Gigabyte's CPU compatibility list though, so it's sure to work.
Thuban CPUs work fine on the 990FXA-UD3 as I expected, Dahaka:
http://content.quadninja.com/image/m...-ud3-1090t.png
I would expect all 990FX and 990X boards to support Thuban.
So would I. They all have Thuban on their CPU support lists. That wasn't the point though. He wanted someone to actually test it so he could feel safe in his expenditure, so I did.
you are a very nice guy particle for doing that.
Thanks Particle, it's nice to see that thuban runs well con the UD3.
My 1055T it's running at 3.9GHz 1.37v for 24/7.
Regards from Chile.
Today tested UD7 with my Phenom II X2 555 and after a bit of fun I managed to unlock Cores 0, 2 and 3! End result Phenom II X3 @ 3.95GHz/1.45V ;]Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
Needed F6 BIOS for that! On F5 or older I couldn't unlock that chip.
Time for fun ....going to pick up a 4100 or 6100 Atm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lightman
well see what unlocking does or dosnt with Ud5 ,,
I wonder just how high i can kicks its micro A$s into submision... results coming soon
Yep, works fine. My 24/7 clocks, beats bulldozer in most tasks so why not use this instead of bd.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dahaka
Temps : -29.9
Os : Win8 DP
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When it blows up i will replace it with my BD.
Seems like a nice motherboard to have some nice bench session.
I think that UD3 will be my next motherboard, but until the end of the month i will preserve my actual motherboard.
Regards.
I got me a pair of OCZ3FXE20004GK and I have big issues with them. :confused: They are 2.0v and i have tried 2.0-2.135v. The BIOS (F6 on 990FXA-UD7) gets totally screwed up with the timings. Sometimes timings becomes like 8-4-4-8 or other wierd settings. During running bench, the timings showned by cpu-z 1.58.8 can change from 8-8-8-24-32 to 2-16-2-22-0.Quote:
Originally Posted by Particle
Is that similar to your issues, or you could not even post?
In general, have anyone ran benchmark with Bulldozer and +2000MHz on the memory? Any special setting needed to run higher frequency?
when i use a gigabyte UD5 990fxa (bios F3 - F6) I hit 4GHz and nb 2600, all the default condition. but when i use my 770 gigabyte can hit 4GHz with the same vCore and 2800 nb all the default condition. all the test using the same proc (X2 555BE).
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/1111/harian.jpg
and i tried to unlock even if only 3 cores. on my UD5 990fxa hit 4GHz at 1.425v vCore and even then test using linx 25loops, but never use prime blend stable. but using 770 gigabyte I can hit 4GHz at 1.375v and pass prime blend even though only 1 hour.
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/9375/48156620.jpg
whether the character of the 9xx chipsets are not so good for AM3 proc??:confused:
I'm sorry if my english bad....
Do any of the new Gigabyte AM3+ boards have ECC ram support in the bios? (i.e. under
DRAM Configuration" there should be an entry "DRAM ECC enable = Turn on ECC" )
I would especially be interested in the 970A-UD3P model.
Thanks,
Bruce
As always, ymmv. You're using different memory than I am--I was using some Mushkin Blackline CL7 DDR3-2000 @ 1.65V that hasn't even been for sale in over a year. It worked reasonably well on the 990FXA-UD3 with BIOS F5, but I think I had to relax the timings from 7-8-10-27 to 8-10-10-27 to get it stable(ish?). I wasn't using any secret settings though, I'd just set it to the DDR3-1333 multiplier and leave it on auto so that most timings were set reasonably instead of really loose, then I set timings to manual and adjusted the first four, and finally I put the multiplier up to 1866 and increased HTT enough to get DDR3-2000.Quote:
Originally Posted by blossa
I only had major problems on older BIOS revisions. No magic buttons or settings were required to get the memory working on F5B or F5 (final).
I haven't seen the option in the BIOS for my 990FXA-UD3 so far, but I haven't been looking for it. I'll try to remember to take a look for you the next time I reboot the system.Quote:
Originally Posted by trueblue
FX 8120 with 990FXA-D3
memory Elixir 4GB/1333 x 2
AIDA64 Tested (4.6 GHz)
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cpu-z validated (5.0 GHz)
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Why did you skip the FPU V8 test ?
I don't skip vp8 test but I forget it to post :p
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When are we going to get a bios that gives an option to disable TDP limit for BD? (ud5 my case)
that seems to be my problem in ud3 also, any increment in voltages gives me a freeze while booting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sgt.McRuff
I've tested another board and another power supply and the results were the same...
CPU FX 8120
MB 990FXA-D3
RAM Elixir 4GB/1333 x 2
PSU Tagan U37 600W
Cooling TT Frio
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A bit off-topic, but do you need that high CPU-NB voltage and CPU voltage for thoose clocks? CPU-NB +0.100v and CPU +0.150v don't work?
i see the review that 990FXA-UD7 has revision 1.1 mobo with improved vcore loadline
Don't workQuote:
Originally Posted by blossa
cpu voltage lower that make linx to get the stopped upon error in red.
and vcore +0.150 when start linx my computer was restart.
Anyone have the UD7 with F6 BIOS?!
I want teste it, because on the F5 with PII 1075T a set the Vcore to 1,5v and they show me 1,47 and on LOAD they drop for 1.37v.
And I cant find the LLC in BIOS...
If your board is revision 1.0, you need to hardmod it to control vdroop, otherwise the 1.1 boards have a semi-functional LLC...Quote:
Originally Posted by aRkangeL
OMG...
And what hardmod are we talking about?!
I just have read all the thread and now Im understanding the problem.
And I guess that Gigabyte dont will fix that because they say that wasn't a problem, but only the "AMD AM3+ load line calibration design guide"
I think that is stupid, but can we do? nothing, anyone knows if this can be fixed with a new bios!?
And Asus Mobos have the same issues?!
The Crosshair V Formula does not have the same Vdroop problem. Unfortunately there is no way to fix revision 1.0 without a hard-mod, hence the need for revision 1.1.
I gonna play with this one and maybe on the next times i will RMA this one to get one rev. 1.1
Contact sin0822, i think he knows how to do the hard mod.
990FXA-UD7 hard mod. 100ohm resistor (don't bother with a variable as pictured) to replace 0ohm. Be forewarned, I actually tried this. Those resistors are tiny. I'm no noob at soldering, but I borked my board trying to do it. If you aren't very good with a soldering iron in extremely tight real estate, think long and hard before trying this mod.
No Im not doing this, I dont want to RMA the mobo for the worse reason!
I will keep the mobo, and see if in future gigabyte release a new bios with less vdrop or wait for mobo got problems and RMA.
One question that I have is, does anyone have a ud7 with a bulldozer cpu to check it there's still any vdroop with it?
Yes, it does. I just did the mod and it is like a completly different board now. In a positive way. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by possessed
So it seems I have to take out my board and do a bit soldering. It's a 100K resistor right?Quote:
Originally Posted by blossa
Yes, 100k seems to work fine. :) After you have done it, I suggest you set vcore to about 0.1v LESS than you think you need. It seems that the voltage get higher than what you set in BIOS after doing this mod...Quote:
Originally Posted by possessed
They never will, so keep hoping.Quote:
Originally Posted by aRkangeL
Power circuitry on Rev 1.0 and 1.1 boards is different, 1.1 allowing it to have LLC that still doesn't even work fully.
Hum ok.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeepBeep2
And anyone have one UD7 rev 1.1 to show how it LLC work on it!?
http://www.overclockers.com/gigabyte-990fxa-ud7Quote:
Originally Posted by aRkangeL
^
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rev 1.1 improved vdroop but still has it!!!
A little comparison between V-FrIeNd's FX8120 and my PII-1100T
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q...are_fx_pii.png
For people trying the mod, remember that RMA eligibility is only meant for replacing broken boards due to defect. If you break it yourself, you've voided the warranty.
in graphic interface in mainboard tab in cpuz I see 4x link but should be x16 on ud7 ver2. anyone have this problem?
f6 and f5 bios show the same thing. wtf is going on?
Is it possible to generally RMA a board just because of the VDROOP issue? It would be good too know for future boards. I've never tried to RMA a board because of any other reason then it being broken. But I would like to do it with my UD3 and see if they have rev 1.1 in stock. Doing the MOD is not an option for me because my soldering skills are non existent :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Particle
I miss the option in BIOS to turn off cores on my 990FXA-UD7, with BIOS F6 and FX-8150... Anyone knows if that is about to be fixed? Before the weekend would be great... ;)
EDIT: Gambit_2K: I know EVGA accepted RMA due to something that was fixed from one version to another. EVGA went out officially though, and said that they accepted RMA. I doubt it would be possible to RMA this board though. But if you contact Gigabyte and try, please keep us updated how it is going. :)
Kepp us updated!Quote:
Originally Posted by blossa
Im in contact with Gigabyte, to know if this is are a issue or not!
Edit:
Some screens
All settings stock!
http://s11.postimage.org/ob12z03r7/Vdrop1.jpg
C1E, C&Q, Turbo core, all Disable
http://s11.postimage.org/pel7ayoeb/Vdrop2.jpg
Good luck! :)
Maybe you can do me a favoir... Can you just double check with AMD Overdrive if you can have different multipliers for different cores on the CPU? As I remember that was possible with Phenom II, with FX-8150 I cannot get that to work. :( I have to have the same multiplier on all cores.
Ok I Will check,
And so Gigabyte says, if the boards its OK with default settings you dont have problem...
WTF?! and I say to him, are we talking about €200+ mobo, and for less money I can buy the CVF and overclok better my CPU.
I will waiting some weeks to see what its going on, and maybe on the start of the year make RMA of the mobo, to get one with LLC,
I have check the LLC function and it sucks but not so mucth as this boards without!
Unfortunately you can't adjust different core multipliers individually with BD. At least I've been unable to find out how. Gigabyte and ASUS software both have only one adjustment.Quote:
Originally Posted by blossa
FX-8120 @4.50GHz
G.Skill Sniper 8GB/1866 @2100MHz
Gigabyte 990FXA-D3 Bios F5c
AIDA64 Benchmark
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i wait 8120 more wide spread in Retail shop in our country....
GA-990FXA-UD7 - F7e
-APM added to prevent throttling on some CPUs
-03.Nov 11
GA-990FXA-UD3 - F6c
-Added options for APM
-Added options for disabling cores/modules
-Fixed CPU PLL voltage changes
-15.Nov 11
Bandwidth limit exceeded......Quote:
Originally Posted by stasio
Please post new bios to support APM options for 970a-d3 and 990fxa-ud5.Quote:
Originally Posted by stasio
Thanks.
sorry.
Reupload.Quote:
Originally Posted by Apokalipse
Please send inquiry to:Quote:
Originally Posted by V-FrIeNd
http://ggts.gigabyte.com.tw
Thanks. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by stasio
:yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by V-FrIeNd
GA-990FXA-UD7 - F7f
GA-990FXA-UD5 - F7g
GA-990FXA-UD3 - F6e
GA-990FXA-D3 - F5e
GA-990XA-UD3 - F10f
GA-970A-UD3 - F5a
GA-970A-D3 - F8d
-Update AGESA 1.1.0.2 code
-25.Nov 11
Thank you very much.Quote:
Originally Posted by stasio
Thanks so much for this. The F7 BIOS fixed the C&Q, and CPB issues for me with the FX6100. Alls well now. I'm hoping the new AGESA code will help out the NB a bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by stasio
EDIT: F7 for UD7= EPIC FAIL ON VCORE! Fixed everything else but vdroop is WAY worse. Normal in BIOS(1.30v) is 1.18v in windows and drops down to 1.09v under load. Have to set vcore to 1.45v to get 1.36v in windows, and with vdroop, goes down to 1.29v(stock vcore).
THANKS! No more problems with bsod or bad performance with saints row the third!Quote:
Originally Posted by stasio
Also APM thank god!
GA-990FXA-D3 Bios F5e , CPU Voltage is very bad.
Bios setting 1.550v but in pc health status and windows show 1.475-1.488v and running linx or prime95 vcore was dropped to 1.425-1.450v
back to F5c is OK.
I hope it is possible to disable LAN in the F7f-BIOS for 990FXA-UD7...
Using a 970A-UD3 with bios F5A and the steam problems have been fixed :)
Board seems overall more stable now. No problems with 8150 at 4.5.
Curious why peeps complain about vdroop? Been out of the loop for a while but I remember a thread in the intel section detailing why vdroop was a good thing.
YEAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH ..........krrp em coming...best Bios hands down.. F7gTURBO CORE DISABLE and CORE UNLOCK DISABLE Now working...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sgt.McRuff
I guess these chips dont get unlocked above a 6core hmm..at least i can disable cores now and not have to use AMD Overdrive to keep turbo off...
Hi guys, recently i bough the 990FXA-UD3 and it's a great mb, i'm using the F2, anyone have experiences with new versions?.
http://www.pctunerup.com/up/results/...8_7m06s458.jpg
Regards.
there are other threads about the ud3, but i think your best bet would be to do a google search on the board and see if the newer bios's are good?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dahaka
ok back on the topic at hand...wtf! the new f7f for the ud7 has worse vdroop than f6? i have to set the vcore to 1.56 to get 1.46 (8120 @ 4.5)....and then if under load it goes all the way down to 1.33v....wtf! this board is utterly useless?
Reporting in: F6e doesn't suffer from the throttling issue on the UD3 finally. Just setting your frequencies and multipliers in the BIOS is sufficient to make it work as would be predicted. It also fixes the crash-on-launch issue with Saints Row 3.
No new Bios's out yet, for me UD7? F7f the last?
F7 Final version released 2011-12-02, but it really suck. My Computer freezes, my hard disks making noise. Something must be wrong with this BIOS, at least for Phenom II processors. QUICKLY BACK TO F6 BEFORE MY COMPUTER BLOWING UP
...f7 final version for the ud7 is out as well.......and it is worse than the f7f!!! i have already been in contact with giga customer service, their response was basically too bad and tough luck, "have revision 1.1 out, which addresses these issues, you can purchase one at your local computer store."...wtf. i tried asking for a refund...but that was no go. until the day i die; i will never buy another product from gigabyte, this is unacceptable that a hardware flaw is not being addressed or corrected.
dammit i have an fx cpu that i cannot overclock...i just want to overclock (sniff) :(.
dude REV 1.1 of UD5/UD7
i see review it still has VDroop with LinX
You can fix the volt drop yourself (a small hardware modification). A swedish guy have fixed his UD7 motherboard. How to do --> http://sinhardware.com/index.php/rev...owall=&start=3Quote:
Originally Posted by god_43