Post 3 of this thread (Results) updated to post 291, some cool numbers in there folks :clap:
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Post 3 of this thread (Results) updated to post 291, some cool numbers in there folks :clap:
Windows 7 SP1 & 2600K @ 5GHz F6c Bios
SP1/AVX needs a few more volts & adds a bit more heat.
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m...GHzF6cBios.png
You need to turn hyperthreading off for it to work properly. Turn it off and rerun linx and report back with your Gflops and temps. ;)
With my silver arrow and hyperthreading on I reach around 80 at 5.0 and 1.43V. With hyperthreading off I touch around 93c on one core at same voltage!
It is working properly aint it? I wasnt aiming for high GFlops just laying down a stable 24/7 clock with the new Bios.
So what you are saying is HT off makes mega flops but with mega heat right?
Can you run lower vcore with HT off?
This was just a quick run during my lunch break.... I'll give it a go later :up:
Something is funky with linx. With HT off Gflops should be around 137 to 139 with SP1 and it produces a lot more heat which makes me think AVX or something does not work right when hyperthreading is enabled. Mine needs 1.43 to be linx stable with HT on or off. I seem to have a rather odd chip.
HT off 1.43V in bios and 5Ghz
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ro/Holycow.jpg
Interesting point, dont like the sound of it as it will probably mean my 2500K will have no choice other than to cook. It also means you need a 2600K to overclock high on air!!! I dont need HT & was going to switch it off to save some temps whilst benching. Looks like I will need to get the AC out or the single stage if I want to go further.
I'll report back later.
wath voltage i need to touch for 5ghz stable?
now im @ 4600mhz with 1.32v and all the other voltage on stock.
i see C-N lowerd the cpu pll..... Why.... is the key for go up?
PS: i tryed 5ghz but.... 1.52v and 90° on core..... too many hot....
any help^
Wont hurt to try lower pll. I lowered mine as thats all the chip needs for 5GHz, my 2500K ran up to 5.3GHz @ 1.58 but my 2600K needs 1.58 for 5GHz & 1.64 for 5.1GHz....
I find I get more BSOD 101 errors when pll is too low & 124 errors when vcore is too low!!! other way round from x58 but thats what I'm finding.
You could also post up a bios template (see 1st post) & let people see your settings to make suggestions.
Has anyone else been getting this "main bios checksum error" and have it reflash itself back to the backup bios, which is still F2 for me? For some reason its happened to me 6-7 times already and Ive only had the board for about a week. It happens at random times overclocked and not overclocked, it did it this morning on a cold boot up at 4.8, yesterday it happened on the second boot up after just flashing to F6c with it still on factory defaults.
Anything better about the new f6c in terms of clocking?
hey peeps
i got a few bios updates for UD4/5/7 which should sort this S3 multiplier dropping to 35x after exiting sleep mode
give it a crack
I tested UD7, it works, just enable S3 in bios
http://filefactory.com/file/b5167da/n/Desktop.zip
That is what I wanted to hear, f6a is the magic bullet for this board so far. 56 and change is still solid and right now I am testing two sticks of my 6G set of Perfect storm and they seem to play nice on this board. I should have a set of the new 7-10-7-24 17066 ripjaws in about an hour which is going to be interesting.
my bclock also went to 107 from 104 with new bios
I just actually noticed what you said like a retard after the fact. I think I am liking f6a my self.
Balls to the wall.... nearly ;)
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m...MaxLatency.png
That is a killer mem score there. Very nice C-N.:up: Just got my ram in now and testing begins.:D
Will be nice to see what psc makes cl7. My ocz' will need a lot of time to get them to run cl7 at 2200+
Running Bios F6c now. No issues so far.
Latest Easytune6 won't clock bclk though. Not sure if its my tweaked xp os or what.
OCM :up:
Just switched also to f6c, seems the same so far.
yea only with f6d, never tried f6b
The ET6 that came on the cd is able to adjust bclk and the version im using now (B10.1228) is also able, its listed under Frequency.
All Easytune's should be able to adjust blck, I think its more bios related..
Latest ET6 B10.1228.1 no problem at all.
http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/8...0121133143.png
I am using that version, and all others I've tried in the past didn't have it either :shrug:
http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/402/nobclk.png
Maybe it's the windows? Not sure if I have all updates installed on it or not, or .NET Framework (Does it need those)?
Windows Welcome/loading screen also takes forever on the new BIOSes? This shouldn't happen because the BIOS has already handed off the board to the OS, but it does because I went back and tested an old BIOS to be sure.
Someone else mentioned that here or at TT, but I can't find the post to quote them now.
Yep, thats exactly what mine looks like on my tweaked xp os. Works fine in full OSes though.
OCM :up:
Thanks, must be a windows update or NET Framework needed then, this is a clean install but one I used for my C300 review, it's not tweaked or stripped, but no updates installed so I think that might be it.
Well I installed the first four 3.5.x .Net updates and if I hover I can see it now, and move/adjust but it doesn't apply.
So you think I need SP1? I am not offered .Net 4 in windows updates? I haven't installed all the other security updates yet though, or reliability, so maybe it needs those reliability ones?
I think the BIOS loads fine, it's just after that, it's causing the actual Windows Welcome screen to sit there for a long time. I only see this on the latest F7e, the one I used before that it doesn't happen with (F7d)
No SetFSB for P67 yet?
How do you enable Hotkey in EasyTune6?
OCM :up:
Ed it doesnt work in XP mate :(
you have to change OS......edit that looks like W7 lol wtf, i am using that version of software without issues /..... odd
profiles dont work at the moment and are not really needed with SB, you can basically max out the chip at whatever clock you want for all benchmarks lol
Ya Dino it is Win 7 x64?
Trying to install SP1 now to see if that will fix it, if not I'm gonna try the latest .Net if it will install (Not offered in windows updates, only 3.5.x)
strange...
on my ud4---
i set 100*48 and 1.410v(bios) 1.380v real...
after 5 minutes of prime95... i see my multiplier down to 36x
on bios all downclock downvolt function are disabled...
PS: last bios posted by dinos...
strange...
it's getting too hot probably and speed throttling man as i am just testing the new bios now and all is good at my usual 4.5 settings
What gives? :D
Installed .Net 4 and still no luck! I know SP1 is not required for easytune, I'm lost.
I guess I'll try a clean install, which this basically is anyway, if that fails.... Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Ya, I bet he makes it paid version too when he adds it :(
Well, I give up!
I tried a vista disk, thinking maybe it's that Win7 setup, and still get the same.
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/9444/easytunefail.png
As you can see, looked kinda like maybe a graphical error? So I switched to PCIE card thinking maybe the PCI I was using was messing with it, no change :(
I'll give it one more go with a clean win7 install, but I'm guessing it will be the same since my main bench setup I was trying with is a clean install and has only been used for reviews!
I wonder what is causing this, it must not like me at all, or is wanting to stop me from getting at 110+ Bclk :)
Hurry up and update SetFSB somebody!
f6c with the new easytune gets me about 104-104.5 so far which is better then it was.
Well I got my SB 2600k today, and my UD5, and I was just floored. Not only was I getting sub 10 sec superpi 1m at 4 ghz (which was the same mhz I had on my QX9650, except that was 11.7s), but stuff was just much faster...
And I was even GAME STABLE at 5 ghz at 1.4v with HT on. Black Ops was flying... I enabled cpu pll overvoltage just for safety...no idea how it is with it off... superpi 1m was about 7.6sec....
I even *GAINED* overclock on my HD 6970...AND on top of that, my PCP&C fan isnt spinning up as high as it did on my P5WDH with the QX...guess the 1.1 PCIE was holding back my overclock big time...
But what's up with the temps?
I bought a venemous-X, and my temps were like 88C on cores 2 and 3 on prime95 small FFT at 5 ghz...I ended the test after 20-30 seconds or so..., since I figured if it doesn't error out right away on small FTT, I'm stable if i keep the temps lower, and I don't like those temps....
Those temps aren't normal are they?
I wonder why I don't have a "solid" mount on my Venemous-X...anyone know? everything is mounted as perfect as can possibly be....but it seems like the the screw 70lbs clamp just isn't clamping the HS down like it apparently should, so it swivels like a TRUE (no wobbling, though...)
Also, the board sometimes failing to boot, even at STOCK settings, (but user defined voltages, etc) and claiming an overclock error, is sort of annoying.... like if you set 34x100 and manually set a voltage like cpu 1.22v and vtt 1.10v, you may get a double boot and overclock error (or a power down) after a restart, while if everything is "stock/auto" in the bios, that never happens....
Strange I came from a Q9550 at 4.3 to the 2600k at 5.0 and I didn't see hardly any difference in black ops. Maybe a couple fps but I was already averaging 90 to 140fps as it was at 1920X1200 with every setting maxed out.
As for temps if you can grab the hsf and swivel it then that doesnt seem right. My silver arrows locks down super tight. At 5.0 and 1.43 volts in bios I top out around 83c in prime95 if I let it run for a while.
Have you updated the bios yet? I used to get those OC errors when rebooting with earlier bios versions.
Using f6d...
I always get an error if I power off the board completely and switch off the PSU. It powers on for about 4 seconds, powers off, powers on again, gets halfway through post, powers off, powers on, complains about some overclock failed, then I set the settings again and it loads...this is repeatable too...
And this even happens if I underclock....like 100x30...
Same garbage happens to me too !!!
I got Prime95 version 26.4 SmallFFTS for 4(four) hours stable at 4.9 ghz(2600K) than memtest for 1 hour with memory at its rated speed 2133mhz, all stable. Than I get happy that this is my 24/7 clock and when i shut down the system for 30 minutes and decide to boot up - CLOCKS FAILED and the thing reverts back its BCLK from 100.0mhz to 99.8mhz and memory to 1333mhz CL9, but the CPU remains at 49x99.8mhz ~4.9ghz. So i have to go into the bios, set all settings, save and exit and than it loads fine. But this is everytime, so annoying, for about a week now ! Gigabyte, look into this please.
Switch back to f6c or f6a and see if that issue remains. I am currently running f6c with zero issues so far and I push it to the max benching beyond 5.5.
There is something strange going on. I'm wondering when you update your bios, do you shut down the system and unplug the power cord and than, do you press RESET CMOS button for 10 seconds ? In the Asus thread ppl experienced cold boot issues also and their fix was to take out the battery and press the RESET CMOS button for 10 seconds. I have never done that since i updated my UD5, like 5 times now. I think ill try that tonight after work.
ps: also im on F6A.
No I never reset CMOS, I just load failsafe setting. I flash in stock settings then load opt and then build what ever profiles required. Removing the batt will drain any constant down enough to wipe settings though I would think it is generally not reqiured. Give it a shot as it can't hurt.
I would say its just unstable.
Every chip I have ever had burns in & will require more & more vcore than it did when it was fresh. The burn in / extra vcore will stop when the chip settles & you will have long term stability. The amount of vcore required & the time it takes to settle depends on how you run it in. If you go easy it may take months & move very little if you are like me & thrash it it can move a lot but settle in 2 weeks.
Try another .01v vcore & see if that solves it...... for now!!!
C-N: you're more experienced than to just blame a chipset/bios issue on an unstable overclock; you know better than that :)
The Asus boards are experiencing the exact same issues btw.
I don't have anything useful to add. But I did mention several posts above that the problem has nothing to do with stability /overclocking at all...
Apparently asus just got a beta bios out to some people that fixed this over 20 cold boot tests...
i agree with C-N, not stable and the fact OC fails at low clocks basically confirms that, you will have to tweak more!
it seems not all IMCs are the same and it may require more tweaking to get it going
testing memory with 32M SuperPi would also be a good start but not a 100% guarantee to check stability, also try linpack
Just for kicks i lower the multiplier from 49 to 48 with the same voltages and the same cold boot problem happened...
ps: Same cold boot bug with 47 multi with same voltages for 4.9ghz.
It's a known bug, though.
The same thing happens at 30x100, which is an underclock. No way to be unstable at an underclock with all auto voltages except manually setting vcore to 1.22 and vtt to 1.1....(which match the auto voltages).
Please check out the asus thread for more information. Asus admitted there are cold boot /double boot problems. The Gigabyte boards have exactly the same problems as the Asus boards, but they have a BIOS out to fix it.
Remember the old 975X problems? (Although these are a lot worse...)
Someone without the beta bios (dunno which board) said he fixed the cold boot problem by setting memory timings manually instead of auto...probably worth a try...
Lol well my greatness! Tells me as you & turbo are the only ones with an issue & the rest of us are fine its a stability or incompatability issue rather than a bios issue.
Use the template on post 1 and post up your settings & full hardeare specs, lets see if we can sort this thing out.
Maybe it is a bug but only 2 of you have it :shrug: but if it still happens on auto then maybe its a setting issue. I would try auto settings again but select standard for performance enhance... see belowQuote:
It's a known bug, though.
The same thing happens at 30x100, which is an underclock. No way to be unstable at an underclock with all auto voltages except manually setting vcore to 1.22 and vtt to 1.1....(which match the auto voltages).
Heres my F6d 5GHz template
Code:
### MB Intelligent Tweaker ###
Advanced Frequency Settings:
CPU Clock Ratio .......................................[ 50
> Advanced CPU Core Features
CPU Clock Ratio .......................................[ 50
Internal CPU PLL Overvoltage...........................[ Disabled
Real Time Ratio Changes In OS .........................[ Disabled
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .............................[ Disabled
Turbo Ratio (Core 1)...................................[ Auto
Turbo Ratio (Core 2)...................................[ Auto
Turbo Ratio (Core 3)...................................[ Auto
Turbo Ratio (Core 4)...................................[ Auto
Turbo Power Limit (Watts)..............................[ Auto
Turbo Current Limit (Amps).............................[ Auto
CPU Cores Enabled ............................ ........[ All
CPU Multi Threading....................................[ Enabled
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ...............................[ Disabled
C3/C6 State Support ...................................[ Disabled
CPU Thermal Monitor ...................................[ Disabled
CPU EIST Function .....................................[ Disabled
Bi-Directional PROCHOT ................................[ Disabled
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BCLK/DMI/PEG Clock Control ............................[ Enabled
BCLK/DMI/PEG Frequency Control ........................[ 1002
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........................[ 21.33
Advanced Memory Settings:
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........................[ 21.33
Performance Enhance ...................................[ Standard
DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) ..........................[ Quick
Channel Interleaving ..................................[ Enabled
Rank Interleaving .....................................[ Enabled
Channel A Timing Settings:
##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
CAS Latency Time ......................................[ 9
tRCD ..................................................[ 10
tRP ...................................................[ 9
tRAS ..................................................[ 30
tRC ...................................................[ 27
tRRD ..................................................[ 4
tWTR ..................................................[ 4
tWR ...................................................[ 8
tWTP ..................................................[ 19
tWL ...................................................[ 7
tRFC ..................................................[ 78
tRTP ..................................................[ 4
tFAW ..................................................[ 16
Command Rate (CMD) ....................................[ 1
IO Latency ............................................[ 2
Round Trip Latency ....................................[ Auto
Channel B Timing Settings:
##Channel B Standard Timing Control##
CAS Latency Time ......................................[ 9
tRCD ..................................................[ 10
tRP ...................................................[ 9
tRAS ..................................................[ 30
tRC ...................................................[ 27
tRRD ..................................................[ 4
tWTR ..................................................[ 4
tWR ...................................................[ 8
tWTP ..................................................[ 19
tWL ...................................................[ 7
tRFC ..................................................[ 78
tRTP ..................................................[ 4
tFAW ..................................................[ 16
Command Rate (CMD) ....................................[ 1
IO Latency ............................................[ 2
Round Trip Latency ....................................[ Auto
Advanced Voltage Control:
CPU
Load Line Calibration .................................[ Level 1
CPU Vcore .............................................[ 1.4
QPI/VTT Voltage 1.050v ................................[ 1.1
System Agent Voltage 0.925v ...........................[ 0.935
PCH Core 1.050v .......................................[ 1.050
CPU PLL 1.800v ........................................[ 1.64
DRAM
DRAM Voltage 1.500v ...................................[ 1.60
DRAM Vref 0.750v ......................................[ Auto
DRAM Termination 0.750v ...............................[ Auto
Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v ................................[ Auto
Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v ................................[ Auto
Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v .............................[ Auto
Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v .............................[ Auto
Miscellaneous Settings
Isochronous Support ...................................[ Disabled
Virtualization Technology .............................[ Disabled
Hey guys whats a good CPU waterblock these days?
OCM what you got?
I am looking at the Swiftech Apogee XT, looks a nice block but is it any good?
I am using EKs new Supreme HF in Nickel finish for both chip and card. Fantastic performance and very pretty to look at.
Koolance CPU-360.
Still benching my arse off with bios F6c and still can't find any issues other than the normal shutdowns with unstable overclocks. She fires right up after setting optimal settings following a crash.
Me too. I have found no issues either with f6c so far and I have been slapping this chip around like a red headed step child all morning. Just pulled an incredible 3DM06 score for a 480GTX at 5615mhz no problem.
LOL. My chip doesn't have the jiggahurtz but its still a good chip to learn on till I can get my hands on another.
I got lucky with this one so here we go with some fresh test pics. New board working great on f6c. All ram pics are the new Gskill F3-17000CL7 ripjaws. Nothing optimised just quick set latency to what you see and ran with it, very nice ram. All quick tests where ran at 5500mhz or higher.
Cheers for the block suggestions :up: OCM that Koolance is a sick looking piece of kit.... I'll look into that as I want to re use my 1/2 id tube (I have loads of it) & I would want straight barbs.
FEV.... what can I say :shocked:
Great kit of RAM, very interesting more even bandwidth performance & even better latency..... who needs hypers!!!!
What was the vdimm for 6.9.6?
What will they run on 1.65v
Nice to see you milking a few more MHz out of the chip :up: she's a beauty
Geat job!!! :up:
I gotta get another chip, screens like this are killing me.
C-N in XMP Profile1 set at 165v they can do the same 6-9-6-24 beyond 1075.
Here ya go C-N. They can run even faster yet at stock voltage but I just picked 1086 for a quick test for ya.
The only difference from C-N's BIOS script was that my memories were set as an EXPERT on the timings part so i had to go and set both channels equally. Now i have set it to QUICK and it passed 2 reboots with no problems. I truly hope this is the issue.
My specs are:
2600K - L040B208
Megahalems Rev.B + Scythe S-Flex 1600rpm
G.Skill Pi series 2133mhz 7-10-7-27 @ 1.65v
MSI GeForce GTX 480
Gigabyte P67A-UD5
Win 7 ultimate x64 w/o SP1
Silverstone Olympia OP750
BIOS F6A - main and back up are F6A.
here is the thread for the ASUS cold boot bug. - Thread
Update: Passed a 3rd tougher cold boot which had the machine sitting for 10 minutes powered off. Man i think this is it. Well see if it will fire up properly when i get back from work in 8 hours - im excited now ! :D
UD5 users,try this:
CPU-Z 1.56.3 Beta
http://www.fileden.com/files/2010/4/.../cpuz_1563.zip
Thanks stasio, everything is working good with correct voltage reading now.:up:
just wanted to share that undervolting CPUPLL lowered my required voltage significantly .. i have no idea why but i needed about 0.06v less to get 5.0ghz stable...
this is 1.34v in bios and load at about 1.39v with LLC lvl 1 on
Amazing stuff flesheatinvirus :eek:
Not only do you have a good chip but your rams are flying :shocked:
Great work.
I've been fighting my rams all day in spi 32m. Have grave issues running 2133 T1 and had to drop them down to 1866 T1.
Still have some tweaking left to do.
http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/r...hsot0010-1.png
I wonder what pll voltage your chip was getting by doing that....im going to take a guess that "Auto" sets it at 1.80, and Overvoltage sets it at 1.90, so 1.76+overvoltage=1.86? ...would be nice if there were a sensor....
So you guys saying "Quick" is helping, and "Expert" is causing issues?
expert is fine as long as you know what you're doing in subtimings and not setting something wrong, they have to be thoroughly tested and uinless you're eva2000 your patience level to do it properly could probably be wearing out real quick lol
Ahh ok, ya I know what I'm doing :D
I just thought maybe they mentioned it like expert itself was causing issues even if someone used all auto, in comparison to quick not causing issues when using auto.
I always use expert, and suggest it, auto or not. That way when people have failed channels they notice it right away due to the NA or - setting in the failed channel.
haha no i didnt mean you specifically lol just a general YOU hehehe
Just got home and fired it up. It loaded fine, no problems whatsoever. This must be some kind of a record for me to load up fine after 8 hours being shut off with an overclock too !
ps; Now im off to experiment with ram timings. Firs thing i did was to set the Turbo function(in memory menu) ! If it fires up tomorrow i think ill celebrate. :)