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Actually the scheduler change was mandatory to co-op with the increased amount of SPs. Basically scheduler arranges and assigns the tasks for SPs, hence when there are more SPs it is crucial to have more advanced and complex scheduler to keep the SPs occupied.Quote:
Originally Posted by zerazax
So, the RV870 scheduler shouldn't be that much of an improvement over RV770, around the same effectiviness.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/A...870_CrossFire/
Iit is a beast at high rez
If the CrossFire numbers are any indication... the 5870X2 should be a beast!
Right, which is why I'm saying that we should wait and see what drivers and future games bring. The 4870 at release was definitely faster than the 3870, but over time as newer game designs + driver improvements came out, it really began to blow it awayQuote:
Originally Posted by Calmatory
Has anyone seen a HD5850 review yet?
Hey Guys, is it worth getting these cards or is it wise to wait for Nvidia's Answer? I would luv to by either 5850 or 5870 to upgrade my current 8800GT. I am a Huge nvidia fan, but lately they have been saying and doing a lot of crazy things, most curreny "Direct X 11 Doesn't Matter" what the heck is this nvidia? I want 2-3 years Proof Card. Your Guys Thoughts?
OS - Win 7 (U guys can see the rest of my Hardware on my Signature)
Gaming - I game more lately on my PC. Currently I have 22" Samsung LCD but I plan to get 42" Samsung LED or LCD TV (My Christman Present).
any 5850 reviews yet?
TPU did both 5870 and 5850 ;)
TPU has one, minus the powerdraw / noise etc, because they disabled the SIMD's of a 5870Quote:
Originally Posted by tbone8ty
Techpowerup, is one very crappy internet site. Their reviews don't cost a penny, just take a look at the frame rates of the other GPU's.
3870х2 review Е6550
9800 GTX review Е8400 @ 3,6
If you anyone could explain what is going on with those reviews, and with all reviews from TPU, I'm listening.
If you want some serious tests go to Techreport.
I'm with you on that :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by zerazax
Scheduler has changed + there are some shader instructions optimized for performance like DOT product which now takes 1 cycle instead of 12-14 on RV770. There are new cache structures (bigger, faster, new types), improved data precisions and more to take into account of future driver improvements.
Besides analysing performance between cards we tend to forget that Cypress is outputting better quality pictures thanks to improved AF ....
Anyway my Sapphire HD5870 with Dirt2 coupon should be in my PC by tomorrow :D
Cache increase is due to ALU increase.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lightman
There was a slide showing ~10% IPC increase with the ALUs.
Interpolation is being done on the shaders now.
The better AF algorithms come at a supposed no performance impact.
If I may ask, would you care to elaborate? Maybe I am blind but I dont see any issue there... :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by mecho_gruh
I wouldn't be surprised if the 5850 reviews shows up a week after the 5870, just like the availability.
It makes sense not to release them on the same day, this will give ATi more attention over a longer time.
The 5850 is very tempting at €200!
Anyone price conscious should wait for nVidia tho, if they have anything to deliver then it will lower ATI's prices, but until then the prices for the 5000's will be high. I don't really think it's too high tho.
@SKYMTL Take a closer look at the exact framebrate, because I can see a difference up to 100 fps, for the same VGA at the same resolution. Or maybe E8400 is so much slower than E6750, that it makes the fps drop by 2/3.
changed settings maybe ? and yes, our reviews really dont cost a penny to view. so look for free, build your own opinion. or if you dont like it at all, click the x - still free!
Well for one thing the system with the e8400 is overclocked to 3.6 ghz while the e6550 is running at only 2.33 ghz, which makes a big difference. The system with the e8400 also has newer drivers which can make a difference as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by mecho_gruh
With change in test-beds, we changed IQ settings as well. Since all cards are rebenched on a new test-bed, it becomes irrelevant how results across the board compare to those on the older test-bed.Quote:
Originally Posted by mecho_gruh
right i would wait just for the pure fact prices will drop massivley the moment gt300 hit... also so 42" tv is only 1920x1080 so 5850 would be fine but a single 5870 (2gb if you can afford) will churn up whatever you throw at it!!Quote:
Originally Posted by vegettoxp
btw samsungs led tv's are just led lit etc.. not actually OLED (there like 4//5k atm :(..) unless you REALLY loved to get a x-mas pressie like that :D
TPU has some of the best charts ive seen, its great seeing how good a card is overall for various framerates. you can really notice how the 5870 takes serious leads at 2560x1600. and its also one of the few reviews with OCing actually done. (though i wish you guys pushed it to max volts/temps until you were done rap3ing the card)Quote:
Originally Posted by W1zzard
going through the 20 different sites and reading hundreds of pages takes forever, which is why i like to read anand and TPU since they have a standards that ive grown to expect (crap did i just call myself a TPU fanboy?!)
Techpowerup is a great site, I don't know what you are talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by mecho_gruh
no software available yet that can do this reliably, but i'm working on itQuote:
Originally Posted by Manicdan
So when can we expect the dual GPU version of this?
i concur! :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by drizzt5
Personally I'd like a 5850x2 I like having a lot of power that will last me a couple years. I don't have 6 monitors or need rex any higher than 1680x1024. Any word on a 5850x2?
Mid~Late November, in time for X-mas.
I like TPU but there is something wrong with this review. Don´t know about the results of the HD5870 but when I look the numbers of other cards like the HD4830 and HD4850 being just exactly the same in all tests I have to say that can´t be ok.
so, say I have a 4870 1gb and a 4870x2 together in trifire with a FC block on the x2 and a mcw60 on the 4870... Would it be worth it to switch to 5870CF and could I keep my mcw60 or should I get different blocks or just not switch? (for gaming at 2560x1600 on a q9650@4.2ghz).
oh :banana::banana::banana::banana: you are right. i must have used the wrong data for one of those cards ... i'll check and remake the graphs tomorrow. thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by Voodoo˛
edit: both raw benchmark data files indeed are the same .. since this can't be right i'll have to rebench the 4830 or 4850 tomorrow as well :(
this has been wrong for months, and you are the first to point it out ... congrats
given the price of a 5870x2 vs monitors you may reconsider that soon. i just saw a sale for 23" 1920x1200 (or maybe 1080) for 160$, give it a year and the no bezel monitors could be probably under 150$ each, and 3 of them i think would look so much better than adding a second 5870 on 1680x1050. and at that resolution (which may be considered low soon) will probably be cpu limited way too quickly. to summarize, 1 5870 with a fast cpu i think will be more than enough for any dx11 game in the few years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glow9
There is something not yet address in full that's also been speculated. That is the use of 5870 and Win7 vs Vista. It's been rumored that 5000 series would provide better performance under Win7 as drivers mature. However, that remains to be seen. Also, there are a lot of mixed results when trying to assertain performance when so many reviewers are either using:Quote:
Originally Posted by vegettoxp
-Win7 32
-Win7 64
-Vista 32
-Vista 64
Specially when games are 32 bit centric. And, no measures were taken to tweak 32bit games in a 64bit OS so they can take advantage of the larger virtual address space that 64 bit OS can offer (until they note otherwise of problems using large address space flag, etc). However, it does appear to me that at it's current price point it safe to suggest the 5870 as we will see DX11 game(s) this year and next year.
if you can invent that you'll never have to work again in your life. it is not impossibleQuote:
Originally Posted by Eastcoasthandle
What model of HD4830 did you use? There were some XFX that came with 800sp. Check that out too. I guess the wrong results are the HD4850 ones, always trailing to HD4770. Glad to be helpfull:)Quote:
Originally Posted by W1zzard
If all of you take a look, AND read the 2 reviews, you will be able to notice that the results with the OLD drivers and the SLOWER E6750, are better than the others. I'm very disappointed because I've written them a letter and nobody even bothered to write me back. These reviews are more than 2 years old. How should I trust them?
my cards have the right shaders for sure, after all i found out http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/other/155Quote:
Originally Posted by Voodoo˛
as i said before, we changed the settings. if i remember correctly we used a different shader model / lighting algorithm in the newer setupQuote:
Originally Posted by mecho_gruh
Regarding caches - yes, but not only.Quote:
Originally Posted by LordEC911
4 L2 caches stayed from RV770, capacity doubled. Each L2 is for 64bit of mem, bus. So that cache now can be managed more flexibly because it's twice as big. Similar thing to doubling shared L3 cache on CPU. Some code will execute faster because it will have more data available (like in case of single threaded task).Quote:
However with twice as many SIMDs, there comes a need to feed these additional SIMDs, and to do something with their products. To achieve this, the 4 L2 caches have been doubled from 64KB to 128KB. These large L2 caches can now feed data to L1 caches at 435GB/sec, up from 384GB/sec in RV770. Along with this the global data share has been quadrupled to 64KB. /Anandtech/
Very good point with interpolation moved to shader core. For some games this will be perf. improver and for other it might be slight bottleneck.
Has anyone seen the 2GB versions yet? Also, any whispers as to a 4GB (2x2GB) 5870X2? After a long stint w/ Nvidia, ATI has pulled me with the 3+ monitor support. Been waiting on that for /years/.
Mmm will they have the same performance on a x58 board , or will they run better on a AMD board ?
OOS now, but heres a diamond at ZZF:Quote:
Originally Posted by Morais
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...dlist=celebros
Hmm... how to get more "memory space".Quote:
Originally Posted by W1zzard
Recall pointers and segmented memory space on 286? F-up ugly hacks, but "works" - sometimes... ocassionally... alright - rarely.
I understand the reviews were done quickly for launch, but hope some of the reviewers will try:Quote:
Originally Posted by Manicdan
- OC CPU to >4Ghz. ie 975 @ 4.2Ghz: half the games in reviews like L4D and Wolfenstein are 150-200fps at ALL resolutions up to 2560x1600 4xAA.
- compare 5870 CF on Bloomfield and Lynnfield (and sure why not, Phen2).
- run oldschool games like Far Cry at 999 fps LOL
- Once 5850 and 5870 with faster GDDR5 chips arrive, can try running at low and high GDDR5 speeds at same GPU clocks to see SP scaling and where bandwidth issues.
- alternatively, try clocking 4870x2 to 850/600 to mimick a 5870... results in HAWK, Resident Evil 5 and Batman, where 4870x2 is 22-42% faster likely due to bandwidth, should go down and be equal or lower than 5870... otherwise we got a problem ;)
I wanna see some comparisons between processors on these cards
I have a q9550 at 4 ghz... but I wanna see how much slower it is than some 4.2 ghz bloomfield... I mean like half the games were cpu bottlenecked with 3.8 ghz bloomfields up to 2560x1600
5870x2 looks DEFINITELY like my new buy... I want to see the new asus Voltage Tweak Tuner or w/e it is on a 5870 x2 with 4 gb vram (2gb effective)
would totally rock on wcing
Fun Facts:
* Xeon Lynnfield supports max 32GB DDR3. Since X58/P55 dont support ECC, they only support 16GB :<
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynnfield_(microprocessor)
http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=42928
with 2GB cards like 4870x2, graphics memory is projecting to surpass desktop memory - maybe we can use for swap file or something l;0-
* 5870 like 4770 is made on 40nm. Intel and AMD CPUs have traditionally lead being first down to a smaller lithography. Only other time that happened was 55nm RV670 - aka HD3870 - which beat 45nm Wolfdale/Penryn by a couple months in winter '07.
* Not sure, but 5870 might be first "consumer" chip with 2Billion + transistors. To put into perspective, Intel 6 core 500mm^2 Dunnington with hefty 16MB cache only has 1.9B transistors.
* Also not sure, but this is 5th GDDR5 product, and all were from AMD/ATI.
* Remember 7900GTX @ 650Mhz. Only other nVidia GPU with higher clockspeed is 9800GTX/+ (675/738). nVidia seems stuck around 650 :(
* Meanwhile, many AMD GPUs launched >700Mhz (even 80nm 2900XT). But, only 3 I know higher than 800Mhz. 850Mhz HD5870, 850Mhz HD4890, and 825Mhz 3870x2 *shock*
* AMD's first GPU with 32 ROP. nVidia already made transition to 80 tex, 32 ROP in 1.4B transistor 65nm GTX280 a year ago. Coincidentally, when GTX280/GTX285 launched, low idle power was also a highlight.
Just found 2 comparing i7 with PIIQuote:
Originally Posted by orangekiwii
http://mikrodatorn.idg.se/2.1030/1.2...ger-dig-svaret
http://bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=1682&pageID=7612
Fascinating... amd system performed better in some cases... must be the improved clock speed
AMD would be mad to intentionally castrate performance on Intel platforms.Quote:
Originally Posted by LC_Nab
I may have missed it. Anyone get some photos of the naked board yet?
this was probably done for tessellation in dx11 games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lightman
The chipset has nothing to do with memory anymore. Pop in a 3000-series Xeon in the X58 and you can can use ECC RAM.Quote:
Originally Posted by ***Deimos***
Nope, I like my monitor a lot even have HDMI on it been waiting for new cards to finally use it. I won't run multiple monitors either think it looks stupid having pieces of plastic between screens. Be okay for flight sims but that isn't really my bag. Whena re 5850s coming out?Quote:
Originally Posted by Manicdan
Anything on the 5850 yet?...
zipzoomfly has them listed --- the 5850s
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...dlist=celebrosQuote:
Originally Posted by Kensek
booyeah
Good link man. Hmmm HAWX loves AMD :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Boschwanza
Both reviews are the same actually, except in a different language (it's written by the same guy).
must... resist...Quote:
Originally Posted by tbone8ty
I made this for friends and I'm not really sure if anyone here cares but I punched together Anand's test data and combined it with newegg prices for a price/performance spreadsheet. I only used 1920x1200 since that is the resolution that almost all my friends and I play at. I also only selected certian single-gpu cards since my friends and I are very hesitant to consider SLI/CF.
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?k...uBinQTPKpUYZaA
Definitely fast but you are still paying a tiny premium for that class leading performance/features. GTX275 and GTX285 lose horribly in price/performance to the 4890. The 4870 (1GB) seems to be currently the best deal on the ATI side and the GTX260 (216) is the best deal on the Nvidia side.
Interested to see how the 5850 might change things. Also wondering if prices will fluctuate as the market adapts to the new king.
I'll have to trust your accuracy because I'm too lazy to check the math and data sources, but you should be commended for your logic. This just makes me cry with joy. Why? This is the exact logic one needs when chasing that elusive "bang for the buck" product. Thanks for sharing.
BTW, I got my 4890 for $150 shipped new a few months ago, so that makes it an even better product for my cheap arse hands....
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Originally Posted by kuhla
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Originally Posted by Kingcarcas
check my reviewQuote:
Originally Posted by Rock&Roll
the xfx for $343, or $313 for a little extra legwork
i wont bother stealing the credit so here's the original post/thread
http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?t=1573459
man i WISH i was in the market for a card right now
It seems to be a Hard launch everywhere but Japan, can not find one shop with them yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by miahallen
Add germany to that. Shops are listing them but some claim they will be available on 30.09.2009...Quote:
Originally Posted by dctokyo
That wasn't the question. But should they slow down the cards on their own platform to satisfy Intel-costumers because their systems aren't as fast?! (In this particular benchmark.)Quote:
Originally Posted by YukonTrooper
Edit: Nice performance from the Phenom 2 955, especially since it's compared to the i7 940. The Battleforge-numbers are wrong to those that don't read the text, GTX295 numbers are actually 5870 and vice versa.
What would be a good 3rd party silent cooling option (preferrably not water). To make the card shutup and make it usable in a quiet envirioment ?
//DJ
5870 is DX10.1 and DX11.Quote:
Originally Posted by LOE
They is already a bunch of title using DX10.1.
Battleforge use already DX11 via a patch and Dirt 2 is due in December.
If u need a card in this price range now 5870 is the best choice.
So in other words, wait for Nvidia? :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by LOE
Of course Eyefinity, DX11, angle independent AF and lower power consumption mean nothing, performance/$ is already superior but oh meh, better to stick to the old, wait and wait because "the prices will drop and better hardware is on it's way". :rolleyes: ...like always.
What the fudge? I think he giving good advice, and I can tell LOE is the last person who would say wait for NV.Quote:
Originally Posted by Calmatory
Basically he said people don't need to upgrade if they own last generations high end which is quite correct. If everyone upgraded even every generation, when they had the previous gen high end, people would be spending ridiculous amounts of money and hardware, and only the wealthiest most hardcore people would play pc games.
Why buy 1st gen direct 11 hardware when the games are not out yet? Waiting will only get you better hardware and lower prices. Sure in the meantime you might miss 300fps instead of 220fps, but in regards to real world playability, neither make a difference.
http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/15653/1/
http://www.fudzilla.com/images/stori...s_hd5870_2.jpg
Quote:
With no voltage changes applied, Asus' graphics cards are running at reference 850/725MHz for the core and 4800/4000MHz for the 1GB of GDDR5 memory. When Voltage Tweak comes into play, the HD 5870 can be overclocked to 1035MHz for the GPU and 5200MHz for memory by just raising the voltage from 1.15V to 1.35V. With the HD 5850 it gets even better as it can be overclocked via Voltage Tweak to 1050MHz for the GPU and 5200MHz for the memory by raising the voltage from 1.088V to 1.4V.
By the looks of things and the figures, the HD 5850 is quite a jewel, and this might be a great card if you are into overclocking. According to Asus, this overclock raised the 3DMark Vantage Extreme Preset score from 8,087 to 9,252 for the HD 5870 and from 6501 to 8987 for the HD 5850. This also means that an overclocked HD 5850, which has less stream processors, might be capable of beating the higher priced HD 5870 at reference clocks, at least when talking about 3Dmark Vantage. Of course, we need not remind you about the price difference between these two cards.
they do mean nothing, really..Quote:
Originally Posted by Calmatory
whats wrong with waiting? its more logical to buy now, than wait a couple months for more GT300 info/black friday?
With no voltage changes applied, Asus' graphics cards are running at reference 850/725MHz for the core and 4800/4000MHz for the 1GB of GDDR5 memory. When Voltage Tweak comes into play, the HD 5870 can be overclocked to 1035MHz for the GPU and 5200MHz for memory by just raising the voltage from 1.15V to 1.35V. With the HD 5850 it gets even better as it can be overclocked via Voltage Tweak to 1050MHz for the GPU and 5200MHz for the memory by raising the voltage from 1.088V to 1.4V.
By the looks of things and the figures, the HD 5850 is quite a jewel, and this might be a great card if you are into overclocking. According to Asus, this overclock raised the 3DMark Vantage Extreme Preset score from 8,087 to 9,252 for the HD 5870 and from 6501 to 8987 for the HD 5850. This also means that an overclocked HD 5850, which has less stream processors, might be capable of beating the higher priced HD 5870 at reference clocks, at least when talking about 3Dmark Vantage. Of course, we need not remind you about the price difference between these two cards.
INSANE
What he means is; yes waiting is more logical, but it's ALWAYS more logical so you might end up waiting forever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Newblar
That's fine and dandy. Just don't let us catch you talking about 'the fastest card on the planet from nvidia, no matter what.'Quote:
Originally Posted by tajoh111
I hope you didn't adopt the GT200 early either, but waited for the 48xx before making a buying decision : (Quote:
Originally Posted by LOE
I guess its finally Time to upgrade my 1950XT to 5870 ^^
Though I wonder if my MCW60 will fit >.>
I'm in the same boat. It looks pretty but I don't know anyone who would jump on it and the need for at least one monitor to have a Displayport is a pain.Quote:
Originally Posted by LOE
nice spreadsheet, but i also notice that the framerate of many older more value cards are not even playable. if a person has a minimum setting they need, this can have a big factor. also with the way things scale up, if that was done at 2560 with 4-8xAA i bet the 5870 would win in frame/$ due to the massive bottle neck many other cards would see. (even though frames would be like 3 vs 15, horrible, but scaled in favor)Quote:
Originally Posted by kuhla
god i so will be getting one of those to WC (need more info on fitting standard blocks or modifying older ones.)Quote:
With the HD 5850 it gets even better as it can be overclocked via Voltage Tweak to 1050MHz for the GPU and 5200MHz for the memory by raising the voltage from 1.088V to 1.4V.
6501 to 8987 for the HD 5850.
Well LOE, you can always wait. ;)
I use triple monitors for several years now with a TH2G that I paid $300 for. The ATi display will be a very useful feature if it works as good as the triple head 2 go. It will change the way games are played trust me on that. Everyone who's seen my 57" of monitor real estate and have experienced true peripheral vision in games... they all love it. Multi monitor gaming is the future and it's here finally for people to experience without buying a stand alone device.
sweet, thanks for sharing that! :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by kuhla
i think we will see a limit with ~8000x2000 total resolution, curved, and at 240FPS, beyond that i think the human eye couldnt tell the difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by LOE
no, no, no and no. good post otherwiseQuote:
Originally Posted by Manicdan
human eye = ~250MPQuote:
Originally Posted by Manicdan
8000x2000 = 16MP
we're a good bit off 250MP.
wow, i think im going to pick up 2 5850's instead of 1 5870, $399+ tax is 440, 260x2 is $520 with tax $572, $132 more and you get much better performance.
That was my reason to upgrade!Quote:
Originally Posted by LOE
Power saving and that I had 512MB cards and moved to 1920x1200 screen res decided for me. DX11 will be a bonus ...
Besides I got Dirt 2 which I was going to buy anyway and Battlestations Meadway (not too interested in, but I will have a look at it) with the card.
I hope that by the Christmas time 5870 will be down to $259 which will make it much more affordable for many people.
@ $259 by this Christmas? Doubt it unless nvidia releases something. This card is going to be above $300 for a while longer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lightman
Great post. I was actually thinking along the same lines, but didn't have the ballz to post because I had a feeling that a ton of folk around here would gang up and trash me to hell. Actually, I could use the laugh, but it's still unnecessary. I've always felt that what people do with their money is their business, but we obviously don't live in a vacuum. What the majority (or influential minority) do will definitely impact industry/business decisions and impact pricing and the such. So, having solid and rational buying decisions will lead to favorable consumer scenarios....
Quote:
Originally Posted by LOE
Hey ! small penis or not it gets the job done.
lol :D
And I like the idea of 3 monitors , after all LCD's these days are dirt cheap .
QUOTE/@ $259 by this Christmas? Doubt it unless nvidia releases something. This card is going to be above $300 for a while longer.
Actually they will, not because of nvdia but because of the new other 5xxx series coming out and also the x2 versions . Not to mention they know that 4xxx series do a good job , so they are forced to if they want to sell their new high end cards .
5870 Tri-Fire review (sorry if repost):
http://i38.tinypic.com/2qapr1v.jpg
http://www.hardware.info/nl-NL/produ...le_CrossFireX/
I think LOE advice applies to most people those, I am not most people.Quote:
Originally Posted by cegras
I am trying to get more points for the hwbot team I belong to. Nothing close to world records, by trying to get hwcanucks to 2nd place again. This was also part of LOE advice, as I hardly game, so I am hardly doing it for gaming purposes in which LOE advice applies.
From how calamity is trying to point it, it seems that there is shame not upgrading from the previous high end. This is foolish those because the previous high end provided more than adequate performance and for the most part except crysis or people with 2500*1600 monitors(which are few and far between), the increase in visual quality is nothing, or even non existent for people who have 4870x2 or gtx295s. Why spend 400 dollar and go through the trouble of getting a new card when no new games are out that take advantage of directx 11. And by the time the games come out, faster cards will be out(5870x2 or gtx3xx) and prices on the cards available now will be lower.
whats your estimate? i did start my post with "i think"Quote:
Originally Posted by W1zzard
i dont think going by MP is the right way to classify a human eye. back like 6 years ago i saw a sony 1.2 MP camera demolish a 4MP casio camera. resolution and detail are not the same thing. then we have to factor in distance. sit 6ft away from a 30" monitor and i bet you wouldnt see the difference between 1600p and 720p using full screen bandwidth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Helloworld_98
when thinking of resolution limits, a monitor 3ft away from your eyes using a good dot pitch, same as a 30", how many pixels could i fit before my viewing range is completely obscured. and im not really counting extreme peripheral vision, basically going by the frame of my glasses. which is where i think ~8000x2000 is pretty close to that. (thinking a 30" turned portrait, 5 wide, is enough to fill that space) add in AA and AF and i doubt any bigger would be needed.
something seems wrong on the right graph, crossfire gets 2 frame increase (20% over stock), trifire gets 19 more fps (190% over stock)Quote:
Originally Posted by jaredpace
i thought those were different maps lolQuote:
Originally Posted by LOE
I don't know why people keep saying this. I've got a 4870 and I've had to turn off AA and AF on most of the recent games to get them to play nice on 19*12 (I can't tolerate sub 60fps at all). If you've got 4870x2 or something like that then yeah, but a single card falls short here and there. I would grab another 4870 but I would like to avoid multigpu solutions after my 2900 CF experience... Would be cool to finally play crysis on 5870 CF though.Quote:
Originally Posted by tajoh111
Definitely upgrading to one or two 5870s.
:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by LOE