memtest test 5 run fine here too.
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memtest test 5 run fine here too.
How about try using 6x multi on DRAM but 18x multi on UNCORE?
Try test it using LINX...
For more testing, maybe try only 2 sticks, different slots, or loosen the RTL
Hi, i have the same problem, OCZ Platinum too.
Thanks but I think I found it. Before I played musical chairs with the memory I set the DRAM switch frequency to increase by 15%. And I left it at that. Now I have every stick running on the channel it fits and I didn't think about the switch frequency setting. As a last resort I remembered and finaly, they like decrease 15%. Result: 20 runs LinX fine. :up: *dances the happy dance*
not copy waza stable yet :( :D
205bootup + PCIE 110
vTT 1.39 + 0.1375/0.01500 set
tRCD/tRP/tRAS/tRFC set in BIOS, others CPUTweaker
LSC on / maxmem 680 / core 1 affinity / no waza
220x21 / x16 uncore / x8 memory / 6-6-6-18
http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/q..._32M_7m49x.gif
220x21 / x18 uncore / x8 memory / 6-6-6-18
http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/q..._32M_7m47x.gif
220x21 / x18 uncore / x8 memory / 6-6-6-18 / tWTR 12
http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/q..._32M_7m46x.gif
220x21 / x18 uncore / x8 memory / 6-6-5-18 / tWTR 12
http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/q..._32M_7m46x.gif
221x21 / x18 uncore / x8 memory / 6-6-5-18 / tWTR 12
http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/q..._32M_7m44x.gif
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32M runs/timing tests (x10 memory)
screenshots + waza runs
http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/q...est-result.gif
Sorry for the late reply. I used to have the same memory as you but I sold it. v2.1 Dominators are elpida ICs. Like you, I had trouble in stabilizing my overclock @ 200mhz and above with my D0. Whats worse is, the more voltage I add, it just made it worse. I had trouble with my C0 as well, but it wasnt as bad as my D0. Im convinced this board has issues with elpida ICs+D0s. Try borrowing another ram set and try again. Prefferably OCZ as I had better luck with my Intel extreme sets.
nice work cheapseats pretty spot on
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...6s422ms_tn.png
So this board is good with Xeon? stupid Mwave are a bunch of boners and wont RMA my barely hurt board... so need a new one. Cant decide between this or Rampage II Gene??
No probs with W3520 here with DFI UT X58-T3EH8 @4877Mhz on Water cooling http://i4memory.com/f80/w3520-h20-48...8-t3eh8-18198/ :D
Hmm think I may get this over the Rampage II gene. Unless someone can sway me to the Gene hehe
Okay. Now it gets annoying, I rebooted to save the settings that ran 20 passes of LinX fine, after reboot everythings as unstable as ever. Insta BSOD.
I noticed using CPU Tweaker that my sub timings did not match the XMP for my Dominator 1600CAS8 stuff.... I manually set some stuff like TRFC, did the TRRD set to 14 so it shows up as 6 and some other timings. I also +1 to Channel C on RTL it seems to be doing a little better.
Kinda worried about this board now, read all the pages. I also have OCZ 1600 6GB ram.
Thanks for all the links Eva on the first page, will have to read all those first :up:
cheapseats, what ram and Dram voltage are you running there ?
Eva, killer timings, what Dram voltage are you giving those Elpidia ?
My PC
DFI x58 te3h8
920d0
OCZ platinium cas 7 12800 @ 1600 7-6-6-18 1t (200x20) 6x1 giga
VTT1.39
RAM 1.72
Bios 508
Stable LinX,Prime95-259,OCCT
NO PROBLEM!!
:up::up:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...Capture-24.jpg
Ok as you guys can see in the SPD window of CPU-Tweaker 1.1, the XMP#1 profile for the Corsair Dominator 1600C8 3x2GB kit has the profile for 800mhz (DDR3 1600).
The subtimings you will be interested in are
TRC-
TRFC-
TRRD-
tWR-
tWTR-
tRTP-
For this particular set of ram it looks like this....
TRC- 41 (Cannot set this in BIOS, max TRC = 31 in BIOS, is this an issue?)
TRFC- 88 (in BIOS this auto's to like 72)
TRRD- 6 (this was covered in a couple of the begin topics listed in eva's post, setting TRRD to 14 in BIOS results in actual TRRD of 6. This Thread for more info)
tWR- 12 (set AUTO in BIOS to 10, not sure how much of an effect this has)
tWTR-6 (again not sure on its effect on stability)
tRTP-6 (again not sure on its effect on stability)
I have also messed around quite a bit with RTL (round trip latency) settings, however its quite a daunting task considering every time I change a setting on VTT, it seems like RTL is changing? I read in the same thread discussing the TRRD that this was occuring.
I am finding more stability with 20x200 HT on and running RAM @ 1600mhz when I bump the IOH/ICH 1.1v voltage to 1.21, and have found IOH Analog Voltage to be of little to no use past 1.15v. (I am not sure how safe it is to run IOH/ICH @ 1.21v, but it certainly has gotten me a little longer before BSODs, so I will chalk it up to progress! Can anyone shed some light on the safeness of that voltage?)
EDIT: Going to try the new 6/19 BIOS posted in the BIOS thread, says
# 06/19 beta
1. Enhance the system performance
EDIT2: This new BIOS looks promising, my memory bandwidth has dropped a bit, however looks like Prime95 LargeFFT / 5300MB Priority 9 is passing further than it did on the 5/08 BIOS. Will report back fully when I see what else might have changed, I am gonna compare some stuff.
Forgive me if this has already been pointed out, I didn't read the whole thread:
So I've been using a Gigabyte EX58 EXTREME for a few months now, and I've been very happy with it. But I do not have an 8th expansion slot in my case to run tri-SLI with it. All of the GB boards have their PCIe slots arranged so that it you run tri-fire or tri-SLI using dual slot cooled cards...the 8th expansion slot would be required.
So I wanted to upgrade to tri-SLI, and was looking for a new board. I'd used the eVGA before, and thought it was pretty nice, but I wanted to try something new, and went for the DFI instead...oops :mad:
Link to the DFI board for reference.
The onboard sound option requires mounting in one of the rear expansion slots (the normal I/O area is used for cooling). Since I was going to be running tri-SLI, the only spot available is the top spot...PROBLEM IS THE RIBBON CABLE ISN'T LONG ENOUGH TO REACH THE TOP SPOT!!! Not only that, but since there isn't an electrical slot in that top position, adding an aftermarket sound card isn't an option either.
Bottom line, if you want to run tri-SLI on this board, the only option for any audio would be to buy a USB audio solution!!! WTF??? :screwy: Who the hell designs this crap?
I would try to find a longer cable, or email them to mail you one. This board is $300 bucks they should just give you one I would think...
Well mine gets here friday, cant wait to fight it with my OCZ ram
I keep getting this BSOD......
Quote:
A clock interrupt was not received on a secondary processor within the allocated time interval.
Does anyone know what this directly correlates to? In terms of what voltage is too low or what might not be set properly?
I had that happen on my MSI X58M alot, needed more vcore.
My OCZ133MHZ CL7 (non Animal), would crash exactly after 4.49sec LinX each time, unless I set DRAM PWM switch to 15% decrease. Then it will pass LinX easily with exactly same settings on everything else.
My RAM can't run at 8x but the Uncore is at 16x.
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/6018/linx3.jpg
I will ask that the "DRAM PWM Switch Frequency" be looked at. One should be able to leave this at Default for most overclocking. Also of concern is the reported memory bandwidth increase some are seeing when changing this setting. It is not possible for the switching speed of the supply to impact memory bandwidth. Something else must be changing behind the scenes when altering this value.
That's great, this setting seams to be affecting LinX, mostly. Everything else including Prime Belnd, Memetest 3.8, windows memory test, and all applications that i have tried would run without any problem with "DRAM PWM Switch Frequency" at Default.
It sames to be mostly related to something that would make LinX unstable (at least on my setup, and as far as i could catch the effect of this setting).
Does anyone tried 0619 beta?
It seems that 26 reboot issue is improved.
Can anyone confirm this?:confused:
thanks ci2kla :up: any update for 230bclk Prime ? a long way from that here
thanks for posting this screen eva, helpful stuff :up: :)
1) i'm ~4-5s slower @ x16 uncore + same mem timings. looks like my OS is too slow atm for efficiency runs.
need x18 uncore + tighter mem timings just to keep up with your x16 efficiency.
2) second very useful thing is vTT/vDIMM for 32M.. noticed that your vDIMM was less than 0.1V > vTT.
so realised i could also reduce my 0.235V gap between vTT/vDIMM to run single 32M.
good news for my vDIMM levels :yepp:
was 1.8V now 1.7V :D
Here you go mate :D
That's a direct setting from BIOS, direct cold boot to windows
http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/m...8/232blend.png
ChaosMinionX, thanks for your post. I hope I find the time today to mess with the timings. IIRC at least tRFC was set automagically far tighter for me, will report back on that. Concerning that BSOD, it's core related I think, most likely VTT. That is was fixed these for me at least.
Oh one more thing...my machine stopped running PI recently as it keeps hard locking me....any ideas? LINX+MEMTEST+ORTHOS = PASS....
very useful bclk ci2kla.. ;)
single 32M lock/freeze windows for me @ 220bclk was pcie.. < 110 = lock / 110 = 32M ok. but only tested 32M.
Seems I've found something interesting. Once I proved that I'll share to you guys :D
Hardocp just reviewed this board and gave it a silver but you can tell he hates DFI, he only seems to like those who pay for ads. (mentions no free review board and no ad support in the forums along with the bad customer support (I never personally dealt with their support but many have said its not the best)).
okay seems the freezing issue is pointed to the relation between VTT and vDIMM.
Here's the test.
vDIMM 1.65v VTT 1.28v CL8-8-8-20 2000Mhz -> 32M PASS
vDIMM 1.62v vTT 1.28v CL8-8-8-20 2000Mhz -> 32M FREEZE
vDIMM 1.65v VTT 1.34v CL8-8-8-20 2000Mhz -> 32M FREEZE
vDIMM 1.65v VTT 1.28v CL9-9-9-20 2000Mhz -> 32M PASS
vDIMM 1.62v VTT 1.28v CL9-9-9-20 2000Mhz -> 32M FREEZE
I'll say from this test my chip doesn't like VTT to be too close to vDIMM...:shrug:
ci2kla
Your testing perfectly illustrates the issue at hand. When 8 instance of SuperPi will run with no problem but a single instance's success is down to a couple of hundreds of a volt something is wrong at the most fundamental level.
Is this problem on other boards as well?
Seems any voltage I keep getting BSOD "A clock interrupt was not received on a secondary processor within the allocated time interval." which I have read is related to Vcore, but it doesnt seem to be doing anything.
For me those kind of BSODs were related to VTT and not vcore. I got them when trying to find the right vcore/vtt balance for a given clock.
Well when DFI supply me a board I will be able to sort out the issue. funny how the ram works fine in other boards ;)
That is what is puzzling me. I only heard good things from those sticks, but as it looks now I can't even run them on their stock timings. BIOS auto's them to 9-9-9-20 at 1600 and 1688, 8-8-8-20 doesn't work, 7-7-7-24 doesn't work. Not at 1600, not at 1688, varying volts doesn't help either, varying subtimings helps at 1688 8-8-8-20, but those timings aren't accessible via BIOS so I won't call this a workaround. My guess is that there's something wrong with the BIOS in this combination with OCZ 1600LV Platinum sticks. That or my W3520 has a really crappy IMC. :shrug:
I wouldn't be surprised. The IMC in my i7 920 is completely arse. As I was outling a couple of pages back, I simply cannot boot above 185 BCLK no matter what I do. On top of that, running the OCZ 1866 HPC Reapers, I've noticed that the volts required to clock the RAM to 1,800 are ridiculous. I can boot, Prime, HyperPI and IBT at 180 BCLK with the 8* memory multi for 1,440 mem speed with vCore at 1.31 and vTT at 1.29. By simply raising the memory multi to 10* for 1,800 mem speed, my board will not even boot with those volts, and full stability requires vCore at 1.4V and vTT at 1.39V.
On my DK with 1866 Reapers, I am running them at 1800 (180x10) at stock / auto settings (9-9-9-24). I raised the freq to 185 and it booted into Windows but had BSOD bit later. At 1600 (200x8) it booted but Windows froze at start.
Need more time to play ...........
I have a strange issue - I may run Prime several hours stable, but if I reboot PC speaker makes continious beeps and C1 error
What may it be?
According to Award BIOS Post Codes for C1(http://csd.dficlub.org/forum/showthread.php?t=8603) it could be:
- memory incompatible
- overclocking issue
- one of memory modules is defective
I just can't understand how it can be stable in Prime and not stable in reboot.
Or my stability tests are not correct :shrug:
I run 210x21 CPU and 210x8 memory with CL9, bios 0508
After power off and on it boots sometimes, and sometimes I need to reset bios.
Edit: And one more, I don't remember if my previous DFI boards gave continous speaker beeps, not one or several beeps but endless
there is no 0619 on official website, 0508 is latest
06/16 and 06/19 are beta bioses available from DFI site. I haven't tried any of the later bioses still on 4/28 beta with no problems but now I'm testing DFI JR X58 the little brother http://i4memory.com/f80/dfi-jr-x58-t...-photos-18537/ so DFI UT X58 is taking a break
4.2GHz and 4.3GHz 12GB RAM
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/8...0624182348.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/5...0624182233.png
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/4...624193455f.jpg
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/419...0626223622.jpg
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/741...0626222906.png
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/228...0626215348.jpg
OT: @ PangingIII, are you Pangingjr from DH.net?
Ok back to some updates from the war front....
I have so far eliminated my 101 stop code (was definitely Vcore problem), and now got a 124 (time to tweak VTT), so I am making a ton of headway it seems...
If after the next 24hr test I don't get a BSOD, I will report back with some findings I have found with this board and my chip specifically, as well as the RAM. I cant say for sure it will coincide with anyone else here, but it might give some starting places to pinpoint what exactly is wrong with your setup.
I also would point some of you to this guide as well, it has some pretty good information regarding i7 platform and voltages - http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.asp?m=...09&mpage=1&key
Finally my D0 works well without any cold boot issue on my motherboard with new 6/18 BIOS. I am so glad that I have picked this motherboard :)
Well I got it, along with my new 850HX Corsair (had a 430W antec). Kinda a POS, squeels like a pig too underload. So far less stable then my MSI X58M and almost costs twice as much...
And what the hell is wrong with CPU-Z and this board? Reads anywhere from x1 multi to x21. When i reset cmos it works fine for a bit then it goes back to weirdness
Hi, is somebody having troubles with this mobo + Mushkin rams?
Now i officially hate my pc. I set cpu/dram/vtt voltage in bios, enter vista, run 5 loops of linx. Restart pc, linx restart pc after 15-20 secs. I mean wtf is this :shrug:
u should hate crap dominator i guess
try 9-9-9-30
I test summer setup atm, 20x200 ht off. Dram 1.63v/vtt 1.33v idle, 1.36v load, Dominators at rated 8-8-8-24-2T. Why should i run them at C9?
I have a really annoying problem, it's rock stable but when I reboot it has a really hard time posting, the Diagnostic LED goes and then glitches out then keeps cycling booting. Eventually it will boot but keeps reseting itself in post. Anyone else have this problem?
W3520 3845A935. BCLK 211, CPU 19x, 4.0GHz, Uncore 16x, Memory 8x, 12GB DDR3-1688MHz 8-8-8-24 1N.
VTT 1.31 (bios) 1.344 (load/ everest), NB 1.27 (bios)
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/440...0627172558.jpg
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/257...0627172610.jpg
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/63/20090627192643.jpg
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/9...0627192235.png
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here's some strange result of Everest bandwidth and latency test
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/4989/20090619213912.jpg
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/6...0618140343.jpg
pangingIII,
Your Everest results are way way out of the normal range.
Something funky going on there...
Are you guys running higher IOH voltage when in the 200bclk range? What about cpu pll? My tweaking time is limited atm...
yes, i meant IOH.
ya i know, but i have no idea what cause it, it's probably software bug?
it also happens to different board, ram and cpu...
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/3...0620191326.png
yeah, have to be a bug:P
i dont get these numbers on 2000, 7-7-7-20:P
Have you tried older versions?
I found that my problems may stem from setting the boot up baseclock. 21x200 (8-8-8-24 1600) runs fine (i.e. 25 LinX runs in the early and colder morning hours, didn't reboot to verify though, it's gotten too warm here) with that option set to auto, but if I set it to 185 to avoid the reboot at 26 issue, the very same setup bsods at the first LinX run. So what exactly changes with that bootup baseclock and how do I find out what AUTO defaults to?
Depending on cpu, lower bootup bclk depending how far from target bclk will require more cpu vtt at a certain point. i.e.
200bclk target
170bclk bootup more cpu vtt than 185bclk bootup.
The optimal bootup bclk below target bclk will vary from cas7 vs cas8 vs cas9 memory settings too. For example at 200bclk 185bclk bootup cas7 might be optimally but for cas8 might be a 190-195bclk bootup bclk.
Auto bootup is same as target bclk AFAIK. As you reduce bootup bclk more, RTL values get tighter for more performance hence need for more cpu vtt. Optimal bootup bclk will allow lower cpu vtt though but still cpu dependent.
So it really was a problem of improper subtimings, i.e. RTL values. Thanks, that was concise. :)
It seems I am a prime example of someone messing with settings I don't really know about and wondering afterwards why it's not stable. I will go and lap the hell out of my chip now and maybe later in the night test again if cas7 is possible with the proper boot up baseclock. Or maybe on auto. ^^;
I hope this 'one boot stable, next boot unstable' isn't coming back.
Genie BIOS Setting
CPU Feature
Set VR Current Limit Max: Disabled
Thermal Management Control: Enabled
EIST Function: Disabled
CxE Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Enabled
Virtualization Technology: Disabled
TDC Enable: Disabled
x TDC Limit: 0
TDP Enable: Disabled
x TDP Limit: 0
***** Logical Processor Setting *****
Intel HT Technology: Enabled
Active Processor Cores: All
DRAM Timing
Channel Interleave Setting: AUTO
Rank Interleave Setting: AUTO
Memory LowGap: 1536M
DRAM Command Rate: 1N
CAS Latency Time (tCL): 8
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD): 8
RAS# Precharge (tRP): 8
Precharge Delay (tRAS): 20
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC): 88
Write to PRE Delay (tWR): 12
Rank Write to Read (tWTR): 6
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD): 14 (actually 6)
Row Cycle Time (tRC): 31
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP): 6
Four ACT WIN Time (tFAW): AUTO
Ch1 Round trip latency: +1
Ch2 Round trip latency: AUTO (-15 to +16)
Ch3 Round trip latency: +1
tREFI: AUTO
Voltage Setting
O.C. Shut Down Free: Enable O.C.S.D.F
CPU VID Control: 1.4125v
CPU VID Special Add Limit: Enabled
CPU VID Special Add: Auto
Vcore Droop Control: Enabled
DRAM Bus Voltage: 1.605v
DRAM PWM Switch Frequency: Nominal
DRAM PWM Phase Control: 2 Phase Operation
CPU VTT Special Add: AUTO
CPU VTT Voltage: 1.37v
VTT PWM Switch Frequency: Nominal
VTT PWM Phase Control: 2 Phase Operation
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.80v
IOH/ICH 1.1V Voltage: 1.11v
IOH Analog Voltage: 1.10v
ICH 1.5 Voltage: 1.5v
ICH 1.05V Voltage: 1.05v
DIMM 1/2 DQ/DQSTB Bus VREF: -00.0%
DIMM 3/4 DQ/DQSTB Bus VREF: -00.0%
DIMM 5/6 DQ/DQSTB Bus VREF: -00.0%
ADDR/CMD VREF Control: Disabled
x DIMM 1/2 ADDR/CMD Bus VREF: 110
x DIMM 3/4 ADDR/CMD Bus VREF: 110
x DIMM 5/6 ADDR/CMD Bus VREF: 110
CPU QPI Drive Strength: Normal
IOH QPI Drive Strength: Normal
Exit Setup Shut down: Mode 2
O.C. Fail Retry Counter: Enabled
O.C. Fail CMOS Reload: Disabled
PPM Function: Enabled
Turbo Mode Function: Disabled
1 core Max Turbo Ratio: 22x
2 core Max Turbo Ratio: 21x
3 core Max Turbo Ratio: 21x
4 core Max Turbo Ratio: 21x
CPU Non-Turbo Clock Ratio: 20x
* BCLK/UCLK/QPI Controller Settings *
QPI Control Settings: Enabled
QPI Link Fast Mode: Enabled
QPI Frequency: 4.8GT/s
CPU Base Clock (BCLK): 200mhz
Boot Up CPU Base Clock: AUTO
PCIE Clock: 105 Mhz
DRAM Frequency: 8x
UnCore Frequency: 16x
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
Core i7 920 C0/C1 with Corsair Dominator 1600C8D
4ghz / 1600mhz DDR3 x 6GB
Hope this helps some people, this is 9hr stable on Prime95 LargeFFT (not in place) with 5300mb RAM used.
RTLs are 56/58/60
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...pboard01dd.jpg
Remember if you got D0 and use Chaos`s template the CPU VID Control and CPU VTT Voltage is lower=)
I can't get my 4850x2 vidcard to work on this board, not sure if its dead or not...http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=228194
ChaosMinionX which bios do u use? Have you tried running Linx on these settings?
ok getting very pissed off...did anyone have any problems getting a single card (4850x2, 4870x2) getting crossfire enabled? Have tried 2 fresh installs on vista and Win7...4 different drivers.
my single card 4850x2 keeps only showing as 1 4850x2. I don't have anymore PCIE boards to test it in so not sure if its the board or not because it used to work! Have tried 4 different bios too