Well at least thats "somewhat" (if I can say that) believable, if the staff guy woulda have say something like "QX9775", then that woulda be...:rofl: :ROTF: :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
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Well at least thats "somewhat" (if I can say that) believable, if the staff guy woulda have say something like "QX9775", then that woulda be...:rofl: :ROTF: :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
Ohhh you guys are bad :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by gmcg
LOL, let's leave him alone guys and focus on the subject.
How? To remove the cooler, thermal pasta to see some chip with a label "Intel Confidential" on it?Quote:
Originally Posted by 5010
http://www.bootdaily.com/images/stor...n/qx9850/1.jpg
If you guys can't see something, it still can exist :DQuote:
Originally Posted by slim142
Well, qx9775 is in the stores now, there is nothing to share rumors about ... ;)
BTW it looks that the corruption issue is related to a beta BIOS 790P03R2. I have flashed it today and after some reboots had to repair windows, before with either 01 or 03 I never had such issues. It means the guy didn't talk true about Seagate HDDs and possibly 9850 was in his dreams as well.
that's a QX9650 :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by gmcg
There is a QX9775??:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by gmcg
lol it's a server CPUQuote:
Originally Posted by tekjunkie
you should just google for this sort of stuff if you're not sure :p
I know, just an example of "Intel Confidential" chip. QX9850, if it exists, should look somehow similar for now.Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
No the person who I was talking with is a big overweight guy in the Microcenter store in Santa Ana CA on the corner of Edinger and 55 FWY, anyone can ask him about that QX9850 - I re-asked him two or three times if he is not mistaken.Quote:
Originally Posted by tekjunkie
I have his business card somewhere.
Guys, miracles happen - take look on my avatar, for example, it is a label on a CPU (was under the thermal pasta and cooler), installed in some "custom made" PC ... can you believe that someone would be THAT dumb?
Here is QX9775 in the stores:
http://www.provantage.com/intel-bx80...5~7ITEP2LC.htm
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...tel-_-19115044
http://www.pcrush.com/prodspec.asp?r...o=136207&cpid=
there is no such thing as a QX9850 mate ;) believe me
Godamn it, I knew that. I actually was kinda playing around with my wishlist @ newegg and I had two of them in my wishlist with a skull trail. I think I should go sleep.
Anway, guys I just saw this @AT. WOW man, they killed a QX9650 with high VTT(not high vcore). They also say that that chip can do 4GHZ @ 1.29 on various boards and the batch of that QX9650 is L739A765(If the chip is the same as shown in the picture) and my QX9650 from L739A732 requires 1.4375 to be prime stable on the 780i :mad: . I am thinking it might the P5N-T. Can't wait to get my hands on the S2E.
OK, I believe you :yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
You know what? The guy was probably talking about this CPU, and such as I never even think about AMDs CPUs nor know about their CPU models, I probably misunderstood him ...Quote:
Originally Posted by tekjunkie
http://www.hothardware.com/Articles/...B3%5FRevision/
LET'S STAY ON TOPIC PLEASE
Back to the corruption issue:
Sorry for the noobish questions, but can anyone help to clarify a few things:
x How can data corruption kill you HD (esp. the raptor ones)?
I have 2x150GB Raptor X setup and so far they work ok
x How can you make sure that data corruption did not occur because of overclocking memory a step too far?
I've had for instance corrupted files/registry by booting with an instable system
x Can anyone think of a simple test that would always reproduce the data corruption issue?
I have tried copying > 10GB files from one drive to another, and then binary compare but could never get a single bit of difference....
x How can video playback (or crysis menus) freezing your system be linked to the data corruption issue?
x What are the chances the issue can be fixed with a new BIOS?
I would speculate it is hardware related anyway :-(
guys i ask smthing...
PLS don't vote early about the issues, you must use the mobo at least one whole week! and test a lot of memory options, delivers, timings, voltages, ect!
I wonder if not having memory that is Qualified could casue these issues.
Anyone know where the list is at?
Someone emailed me this MT16JTF25664AY-1G4 but I don't know who makes that module....
Nope, that's not the case ( about the qualified memory modules list ).Quote:
Originally Posted by DaMulta
By the way, the code you've posted is for Micron Technology's DDR3 chips.
My assumption is that the corrupted file is a block (cluster) in a boot sector? It's not a kill, of course, HDD regenerator can fix this, but someone need to know what tool is useful.Quote:
Originally Posted by MateoTTR
Because we had no corruption issues with the same settings and P03 BIOS?Quote:
x How can you make sure that data corruption did not occur because of overclocking memory a step too far?
I've had for instance corrupted files/registry by booting with an instable system
All tests which I have used, were Lavalys and Futuremark, but corruption happened during the boot process after I settled P1 and P2 in "enabled" instead of "auto".Quote:
x Can anyone think of a simple test that would always reproduce the data corruption issue?
I have tried copying > 10GB files from one drive to another, and then binary compare but could never get a single bit of difference....
Easily, bad blocks on your HDD may be in different areas, if they are in a boot area, HDD "dies", if somewhere else - you have a problem running that particular application.Quote:
x How can video playback (or crysis menus) freezing your system be linked to the data corruption issue?
It's doubtful that it is a hardware, because I, for example, had no issues with P03 standard BIOS (except of the memory limitations).Quote:
x What are the chances the issue can be fixed with a new BIOS?
I would speculate it is hardware related anyway :-(
Let's hope that the issues will be fixed in a new BIOS - or, if not, in new chipset drivers.
Hmm for a while I was happy with no corruption with my S2E board but yesterday it happened to me aswell. Hope they will fix this problem asap with a new bios or driverupdate:(
I am really dubious about the whole "sfc /scannow" procedure.
When I run it, I am being asked for the windows XP for each and every single file. Really the popup comes up a thousand times.
Now why I can play Crysis flawlessly for several hours in a row and use my comp without encountering any crash nor BSOD is beyond me.
With so many files corrupted, how can windows even boot?
And why I don't get any corruption when I copy very large files from one disk to another?
I am actually surprised I am not getting any corruption. With below settings I am quite stable. Can't go any higher without messing with voltages. Will wait for P04 bios, hopefully that fixes my problems.
Build:
E8400 @ 7.5x multiplier 400x7.5 = 3Ghz CPU@1.175v FSB@1.2v
Patriot 2x2GB DDR3 1600 7-7-7-20 2T @ 1.9v in slots [][*][][*]
evga 790i Ultra @ 1600 FSB
1xevga 9800GTX
2x150G Raptor 10krpm not in raid
Plextor PX-755SA SATA DVD
PC Power & Cooling 750w
I think the SATA controller is flaky on these boards, again hopefully P04 will fix this.
It was on the mtron SSDs or the normal discs?Quote:
Originally Posted by eternal_fantasy
Hello, I have a striker II too, and after having a lot of trouble, Ive got a stable system
2 Mtron SSD connected to the Areca 1231ML in the middle PCI-E slot of the Asus Striker II Extreme.Quote:
Originally Posted by RealTelstar
Coming back to the "sfc /scannow" test:
When I run it on my old rig that's been stable for the last 3 years (never had to re-install windows), it also asks me for the windows CD for nearly every file it checks. Makes no sense.
Btw I wonder how sfc reacts to critical updates that I installed on both my old and new rig...
Well sorry I don't think sfc is the proper way to check data corruption, at least on XP. You can't know what files it checks, there is no log whatsoever, no way to know what the program does (that's MS for the win).
I am looking for a program that would simply binary compare (just like comp cmd) a complete folder against a copy, recursively testing all files and sub-folders.
The idea would be to make a ghost of your system after a fresh install, and check every know and then what files got changed or corrupted.
I think the problem with striker II is serial ata controller, as usual with nvidia chipsets. Also, the memory unstability is another factor to take note.
I received my new striker II after rmaing the first I had, I didnt touch the original bios (0402), installed vista x64 with 1 module with 2 GB (part of 4gbhz gskill), installed sp1, then nvidia drivers except mediashield, copied the entire timings detected for one memory module, put the second module to b1 and used those timings for both, enabled calibration and ddr3ref with 1.9v for a1 b1, and have now a stable system.
Ive passed 20 sfc /scannow and all is ok
Have you noted Asus has posted today 0402 bios after posting 0508 beta? This means something, 0402 is more stable, I think.
2 people here with areca raid controllers, and both had corruption repeatedly.Quote:
Originally Posted by RealTelstar
and why wouldnt they? the data that is supposed to be written to the hdd gets corrupted somewhere in between the cpu working on it and the memory holding it and then the chipset passing it to the hdd.
it seems the exact point of corruption is between the memory and the chipset, what exactly is causing it, mem or chipset... hard to tell, but id say chipset since bill got corruption with 1600 cas8 with a set of mem that can run above 2000 cas8... :D
have you never trimmed down windows before? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by MateoTTR
you can cut down windows from 1.2gb to 0.5gb and still have everything you need working. depending on what you do with your pc you can even cut it down to 0.2gb ;)
And youd be surprised how little code is actually beeing used when you run your pc. Let say you have 1 file which is 100kb in size. 100.000 letters... you can change quite a lot of them withint having any serious issues :D
again, depending on what you do...
and on the other hand, for a 100kb file to be corrupt you only need to have 1 BIT wrong. so if its single bit errors you guys are getting here then that could explain why so many files are corrupt.
But i think its not single bit errors, sounds more like several chunks of data are missing or wrong from what ive heard.
The corruption is nvidia 570 southbridge related, as usual. doesnt matter if you have a raid controller like Areca or you plug in sata conectors from motherboard, the pci express slots and sata conectors all are controlled by 570.
I think that many issues could be fixed simply not installing mediashield, and putting the correct settings for memory too, to avoid bsods.
Furthermore, dont you think guys, that current boards still are not prepared for dual channel ddr3 1600 and above? the fsb only reaches 1600 stock, dual channel 1600 is too high for it...
I see what you mean.Quote:
Originally Posted by saaya
Still based on % of corrupted files vs % of files actually vital to the system, the probability that I should encounter crashes is quite high in my opinion.
I would really like sfc to log what files are corrupt so that I can actually check them by myself.
Well I installed with NO problems and I was able to go straight for a Q6600 Go OC to 4050GHz...Very tired but I wanted to run one of my new eVGA 9800GTX SSC cards stock in 3DMARK06 and scored a 16K
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/j...GHzAsusS2E.jpg
SFC overwrites the files found corrupted from your windows disc.Quote:
Originally Posted by MateoTTR
Even with a log, you wouldn't be able to do a thing since...the files will be replaced during the sfc run.
And of course, you can't install windows again and check the files logged by SFC because simply can't corrupt the same files, it's a random and tied to what you're doing and which files are being accessed when the corruption occurs.
I would like to check for corruptions myself and not use sfc.Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
I tried once to let sfc replace all corrupted files, rebooted once and immediately re-launched sfc. And again it would ask for the CD a thousand times.
I just don't get it. I am starting to wonder if sfc considers the multiple critical updates installed on my PC that are not on XP SP2 CD.
On my older rig, sfc will also ask for the CD all the time, when it is a stable 3 yr old rig that is not OCed, runs on nforce 4 sli and as such is not subject to data corruption.
I just want to see the corruptions myself using comp instead of launching sfc blindly.
Did you contact Areca or Mtron support?Quote:
Originally Posted by eternal_fantasy
I suspect that is not casued by the s2e...
Not a fact, but it could've been done by the S2E SB easily.Quote:
Originally Posted by RealTelstar
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/chipset...g_Company.htmlQuote:
Nvidia’s Latest Core-Logic Causes Data Corruption During Overclocking – Company.
Nvidia Admits Problems with nForce 790i SLI Chipset
Category: Chipsets
by Anton Shilov
[ 04/17/2008 | 10:35 AM ]
Nvidia Corp., a leading designer of graphics processors and chipsets, recently admitted that its most-recent chipset for Intel Corp.’s microprocessors may cause data corruption in case processor bus and system memory are overclocked. Earlier customers blamed previous-generation Nvidia’s core-logic sets for data corruption under the same circumstances.
Apparently, when computer enthusiasts overclock processor system bus (PSB) and memory clock-speeds on systems that are based on Nvidia nForce 790i-series core-logic, they may experience data corruption on hard disk drives. Earlier end-users complained about the same issue on systems powered by previous-generations Nvidia nForce chipsets.
“Nvidia has received reports of data corruption when using certain high speed memory and overclocking the front side bus. Our engineers are currently investigating this issue and as soon as we have more information, we will provide an update to this knowledge base article,” a statement by Nvidia in its technical support forums reads.
Even though this is not the first time when customers complain about data corruption, neither Nvidia nor any of the mainboard makers have disclosed the reasons of the problem.
Nvidia nForce 790i Ultra SLI core-logic supports Intel Core 2 processors with up to 1600MHz processor system bus and overclocking capability beyond that, dual-channel DDR3 memory with speeds over 2000MHz, three PCI Express 2.0 x16 slots for graphics cards, six Serial ATA-300 ports for hard disk drives and so on.
yeah.
i hope they will fix this bug :D
Arggg. I stepped up to the 790i from the 780i I originally bought. I should of stuck with my old board.
So, they admit there is a problem. Is there any news about what they will do about it?
I too, hope there is a fix soon. My 790i is still sitting in its shrink wrap.
The fix will be a hardware revision.
By judging how nvidia is silent about the issue, if it were fixable through simple bios update, they would already have told everyone to reassure their customers and potential buyers
But that doesnt explain how kingpin and MANY others got their boards 100% stable and some of them with FSB speeds OVER 550Mhz fsb.
Can somebody explain me this cause Im kinda lost here...
Benching is one thing... keeping the files free from corruption is a different thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by slim142
During the process of recovering of my badly corrupted HDD (which was successful and I can run BIOS 790P03R2 with the stock timings without any corruption issues on it, though anyway re-flashed to P03) I can confirm, that the corruption affects indexing of files and doesn't create bad blocks on HDD, as previously suggested.
It looks that there is nothing bad with our HDDs, just need to reinstall or fix the OS, if the corruption happened. It's still bad though.
if it really is gonna be a hardware revision, all us SIIE owners are screwed... God knows EVGA will replace all their boards for free, but ASUS doesnt seem to appreciate their customers in the same fashion :(
If the issue shall require a hardware revision, all manufacturers SHOULD replace the boards at no cost.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonofander
Else... burn on purpose and RMA shall be considered LEGAL for this case :D
When does this bug happen? When overclocking the memory and CPU or when overclocking only the CPU?
I have this motherboard and I want to buy RAM at 1600 MHz (OCZ EB 4GB kit)and the Intel E8500. I want to OC the FSB up to 375 MHz aprox. (and fix the RAM to 1500 MHz), doing this the corruption may happen? I have 2 SCSI drives 15000 rpm and do not want to put them at risk.
If I can't do OC to the CPU, this memory works right at 1333 MHz?
The cause of this issue is still unknown to be honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Malosa
Slightly OT. But how many class action suits have there been relating to motherboards? I'm not advocating one. I am curious because there was so much outcry over the 680.Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
Kinping had NO corruptions, roll back a few pages and see it by yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
So the HDDs dont die at all? Anandtech said their (2) 74gb raptors died w/ 790i. As mentioned before, they wouldnt say they were dead if they knew they just had to format them.Quote:
Originally Posted by gmcg
Im affraid thats whats probably gonna happen, but miracles can always happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonofander
We know how ASUS is with RMAs, imagine thousands of RMAs, :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
Before you guys keep losing your faith, have you all tried 0601? Seems to be a nice release.
Glad I stuck with my old cheap trusty P35 mobo.
Anyone have any close sources to nVidia or eVGA know if this issue will be resolved with P04, or are we going to need a new revised board????
I am not sure, we know about his testing results onlyQuote:
Originally Posted by slim142
I don't understand how the corruption of indexes or files can PHYSICALLY kill HDD.Quote:
So the HDDs dont die at all? Anandtech said their (2) 74gb raptors died w/ 790i. As mentioned before, they wouldnt say they were dead if they knew they just had to format them.
If you had to guess which of the following hardware is causing OS corruptions, which one will you put your money on?Quote:
Originally Posted by RealTelstar
The motherboard, which have a 14 page and increasing thread dedicated to the aforementioned problem, or;
The RAID Controller + SSD, that works perfectly on ALL of my motherboards (see sig), but happens to corrupt the OS on the ONE motherboard that are having a 14 page and increasing thread dedicated to the aforementioned problem?
Ever thought that maybe the Striker II Extreme might be the cause?
I thought the first and third PCI-E slot (PCIEX16_1 and PCIEX16_2) are controlled by the 790i SPP?Quote:
Originally Posted by vmanuelgm
http://www.guru3d.com/admin/imageview.php?image=12820
I installed the Areca on the last PCI-E slot, therefore it may not be caused by the nvidia 570 SB?
If raising the FSB from 333 to 334 is incorrect settings, and therefore corrupted the OS, then please educate us on what is..Quote:
Originally Posted by vmanuelgm
Media shield or not, corruption occurs.
No. Your argument is invalid simply because nVidia advertises their 790i chipset to handle DDR3 speeds of up to and beyond 2000Mhz. Are you sympathizing with nVidia for not able to handle speeds they advertise to support, because they are "not prepared"?Quote:
Originally Posted by vmanuelgm
am I the lucky one?i have no corruptions running q6600 g0 @1700fsb 1700mem 7 6 5 18 1T
i dont think kingpin had NO corruptions whatsoever... thats nonsense...Quote:
Originally Posted by slim142
if you push a system to the limit your bound to get to that point, if you dont see a single BSOD or corrupt a single windows install you havent really pushed a system. :P
But i think there are some boards that definately seem to work 100% fine...
while others dont. I think has to do with the chipst yields, some chipsets can apparently run stable at high speeds while others can not, its as easy as that. many core2 cpus can reach a certain high clockspeed, while only some of them can run it stable as well. thats it, easy as that.
but in this case it seems a bit odd that everybody can reach relatively high clockspeeds but only some can get them stable and some can not. If its just the 570 sb then it should be easy to fix for nvidia... maybe some nvidia sbs suck and some are fine... so thats why some boards work fine and others dont?
But how could the sb cause hdd corruption if people use a pciE raid controller? It should be easy to check then, use a pciE slot controlled by the spp and then one controlled by the sb. if one corrupts while the other doesnt, there you go, its the sb for sure.
but i dont think its the sb... i think the sb ALSO causes corruption and kills some hdds apparently, but i think the main corruption issue is the SPP.
And i actually DO think this can be fixed in BIOS... but im not 100% sure...
especially after nvidias statement... if they knew it could be fixed with a bios then they would have said it. so they either dont know how to fix it or they will fix it in hardware.
or, if they really suck, they will not fix it and just say "too bad? we dont guarantee ocing..." :shrug:
e_f check the graph, the last 16x slot, the third one, actually IS controlled by the 570 sb!!! so maybe it IS the 570 after all?
could you please try the second pciE slot and see if that makes a difference?
i don't know if this has been posted here but they are definitely looking into data corruptions resulting from memory and fsb OCs
http://nvidia.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/n...p?p_faqid=2166
Quote:
Originally Posted by saaya
Haha saaya, have a look here;
http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/...-s2e/Slots.jpg
"The Striker II Extreme has support for both 3-way SLI and Quad-SLI configurations, in addition to the more traditional 2-way SLI setup. The two blue PCIe x16 slots are PCI Express 2.0 compliant and should be used before a third graphics card is installed in the third white PCIe x16 slot (which is PCI Express 1.x compatible only). You can read more about performance tuning for graphic cards in our included 790i BIOS tuning guide." - Anandtech
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3283&p=3
Have a closer read at my post and you will see that I was infact using the second "blue" slot. :D
Anyhow, I have used both slots 2 and 3, both are affected by the corruption.
(the reference board have the same PCI-E slot layout)
The problem should be in SPP somewhere. Logically it's performance should be limited by a driver (or a BIOS), therefore if FSB speed is too high to be correctly handled by a CPU or timings are too tight to be handled by SPP/memory, it shouldn't let you boot setting an error flag to BIOS. It doesn't happen and system can't correct or control the errors caused by such situation, sending false commands and data to a HDD and corrupting it.
In BIOS P03 they limited memory bandwidth and latency (and, therefore, it's performance) to make the situation stable enough (it means they have limited the OC abilities of the board, therefore it became to be slower than a regular x38 or x48 non-top over-clocking board).
Now they need to find a better solution, either in BIOS, in SPP driver or in the worst case - in hardware (SPP). They are working on it, as far as we all know, but why should we suffer because of such situation - it is a question.
Well, we still have a solution - we can use seriously limited P03 BIOS with standard timings or find our own limit of stable performance experimenting with FSB and memory timings to have max over-clocking and still have no corruption problems. It's a PITA though. The problem is not so clean also because FSB limitation is different for dual core and quad core CPUs, the first ones support 550 MHz FSB stable enough and the last ones have corruption problems with 450MHz FSB sometimes, therefore the research for limitations requires a lot of patience and ability to restore the corrupted HDDs.
What is worrying me - that Nvidia has found a problem before BIOS P03 release (because they have used bandwidth and latency limitations in it), and they still have no solution.
790i Ultra SLI board is definitely not a good purchase for now, it only can be recommended to people, who like to reach max and don't mind to have some PITA, IMO. :eek:
Could you post your read-write-copy-latency results and voltage setting , please?Quote:
Originally Posted by |SiLA|
The reason why I ask is if you for example use P03 BIOS, performance of your memory is limited too much to satisfy you with nice timings, but it doesn't mean that you have good results.
Take a look on the following pictures (BIOS P03, no corruption issues):
http://www.audio-measurements.com/0/images/12.png
Settings almost as yours (1800 FSB vs yours 1700, but 7-6-6-15-1T vs yours 7-6-5-18-1T), P03, no corruption issues:
http://www.audio-measurements.com/0/images/6.png
And finally my current setting with BIOS 790P03R2:
http://www.audio-measurements.com/0/images/13.png
Timings don't look so nice, but the memory performance is significantly improved, and still no corruption issues.
What is the most obvious may not be the cause sometimes.Quote:
Originally Posted by eternal_fantasy
I have read somewhere of issues of the mtron SSD drives when used in raid.
my 0.2 cents.
do you guys use system ghost to recover from corruption?
I just don't feel like re-installing windows every time the slightest OC will corrupt it.
Any hint what tricks / software you use for testing corruption, restoring windows, etc.... ??
I use acronis... There are definately workarounds for this issue. I keep all my files on my non-OS drive and downclock to stock whenever making large file transfers. Whenever I bork my OS (twice now) I do an image restore and everythings fine.
Not that we should have to accept these problems, but really, they're not that difficult to maneuver around...
e_f, well then that settles it for sure, it MUST be the SPP...
what? that doesnt make any sense, why would you implement a mechanism to "check" if a certain speed is stable and only then allowing the system to boot? this doesnt really sound right... are you sure thats how other chipset mfgs do it?Quote:
Originally Posted by gmcg
well this sounds like first you release a bios thats tweaked for performance, so then all the reviews look great and some people post great results, but then you release a new bios that actually makes all boards stable but performance sucks... so basically they are selling 2 types of 790 ultra boards, some that can run stable with a tightly tweaked bios and some that cant... come on, wth is that? i honestly pray its not like that...Quote:
Originally Posted by gmcg
yeah, totally agree... but then again, some boards seem to work perfectly fine even with tweaked bios and high clocks...Quote:
Originally Posted by gmcg
i keep hearing about different chipset revisions... b2 and c0?
so the older rev is actually better?
what revisions do you guys have?
c0 seems to be really crappy while b2 steppings seem to work fine?
are there c1 and b1 revisions too?
This board sounds as good as the 780i that I took back to the store within three days. :rofl: :ROTF: :down:
i have the SIIE with 0512 biosQuote:
Originally Posted by gmcg
i'll post tonight
here's the screens
copy
http://www.pctunerup.com/up/results/...opyeverest.JPG
latency
http://www.pctunerup.com/up/results/...ncyeverest.JPG
read
http://www.pctunerup.com/up/results/...eadeverest.JPG
write
http://www.pctunerup.com/up/results/...iteeverest.JPG
i've tried to run unlinked mem at 1800 same timings but it's slower
Saaya
That rumor about C1, you are saying might be true? Remember when Anandtech reviewed the 790i they mentioned an Engineering Sample C1 which performed nicely?
Dont know what the heck is going on here but it might be better for me to hold on the credit card before purchasing anything.
For SIIE owners, have you tried BIOS 0601?
http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.asp?m=332217
P04 is out!!!
Image - Acronis. Tricks - scandisk - right click on your HDD, select "properties", select "Tools", select check HDD (upper button). It will run as soon as you will reboot.Quote:
Originally Posted by MateoTTR
Restoring windows - use your installation CD, there is an option in it. But image solution is easier and faster.
That was my assumption, it could be wrong, of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by saaya
Logically - it should be some kind of checksum during the system self-test. I don't know exactly how BIOS is programmed regarding algorithm of memory test or booting ability, may be someone knowledgeable enough can enlighten us?
Well I guess it was a temporary action to stabilize the situation, people report that just released BIOS 04 works fine.Quote:
well this sounds like first you release a bios thats tweaked for performance, so then all the reviews look great and some people post great results, but then you release a new bios that actually makes all boards stable but performance sucks... so basically they are selling 2 types of 790 ultra boards, some that can run stable with a tightly tweaked bios and some that cant... come on, wth is that? i honestly pray its not like that...
if your system is within your stable limits, why not?Quote:
yeah, totally agree... but then again, some boards seem to work perfectly fine even with tweaked bios and high clocks...
Need to get some more info about this issue.Quote:
i keep hearing about different chipset revisions... b2 and c0?
so the older rev is actually better?
what revisions do you guys have?
c0 seems to be really crappy while b2 steppings seem to work fine?
are there c1 and b1 revisions too?
Please don't use the release version of Everest, use the beta 1347 or better 1352Quote:
Originally Posted by |SiLA|
Your read speed looks fine, latency as well, but write speed @7k+ is too low.
weird i keep getting 7k only on write
http://www.pctunerup.com/up//results...3_cachemem.png
And also...running the Cache & Memory Benchmark is easier, and more convenient on screenshots ( as it includes all memory tests in a small window ;) ) [ it's under the tools menu if I recall correctly ].
From tomorrow and on I will be hammering the Striker II Extreme, so I'll have my conclusions about this Data corruption issue soon.
hope to see from you soon any comments on 0601 bios :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
Report results w/ new P04 BIOS ;)
Absolutely happy with 04, stable 7-6-5-18-1T@2.0V memory in linked sync mode with QX9650 CPU@4072MHz (temporarily with AC while I am waiting for a new case), 22464 3dmark06 with only one 9800GX2 (stock cooling).Quote:
Originally Posted by slim142
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=6348994
No corruption issues so far. Read-write-copy-latency results could be a bit better, but I will get them better with WC, I am sure.
Still "day and night" with P03 (low results) and even 790P03R2 (unstable, corruption issues).
Bravo, nVIDIA! :clap:
Very first comment on 0601:Quote:
Originally Posted by |SiLA|
They fixed the tCL ( CAS Latency ) 5 bug.
Nice result! what memory and voltage settings did you use to achieve that clock? If I go over 425 it either fails to post outright or after a restart from windows...:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by gmcg
P04 seems to have solved the bandwidth "hole" I posted about earlier with P03 -- can't wait to see the results of BZ's testing as to whether the corruption issue is fixed.:cool:
I played with the Striker II Extreme with the latest BIOS ( 0601 ) and after trying some settings that I wanted to check if their working ( as they should ), I tried to corrupt my installation using the settings that caused major OS corruption when I was using the previously released BIOSes ( 0402/0507/0508/0511/0512 ).
None of them ended up corrupting my OS making it unbootable like they did before.
Can't say if there's file corruption not enough to prevent windows from booting and running, but I will do some serious testing tomorrow.
I'm currently working at tweaking the system for stock settings for the review.
Really? I've tried 601 and it corrupted the same way. It happens even if I set the timings of my memory manually. I'll give another shot tomorrow before disassembling for RMA.Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
Nice to hear that BenchZ, what about P1 and P2? Have you tried those yet?Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
Looking forward for that review :)
Golfjam, try formatting your drives and start from zero again. Clear CMOS just in case and also do all the testing then do a fresh installation of windows.
ok guys
now run your RAM out of spec and try to boot
say 2GHz 7-6-5-x 2V and see what happens to OS :D
unfortunately the new P04 bios does NOT address the corruption issue.. read for yourselves here:
http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.asp?m=332217
I've cleared CMOS, removed the battery for 1hr and pushed the system again. Maybe that's why it didn't work before. Windows loads but XP shows it recovered registry everytime it boots. Never saw that message before. Currently running Q6600 @ 450x8 and ram @ 1800. It doesn't do 1T no matter what timings and voltage, either 1600 or 1800, 100+ errors in 30sec using Memtest. Strange since I've read a lot of people very happy w/ OCZ. I will Prime now and see what happens. Let's hope I don't get into another corruption scenario.Quote:
Originally Posted by slim142
Thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by eternal_fantasy
Voltages:
CPU Vcore 1.45V settled in BIOS, real 1.36V in BIOS and 1.392V in CPU-Z
CPU FSB 1.35V (BIOS)
Memory 2.0V (BIOS)
SPP 1.45V (BIOS)
MCP 1.5V (Auto, BIOS)
P1 and P2=enable
May be you have your memory settings too tight?
What happens? It works! Both XP and Vista 64 work fine actually. Not at 2 MHz ;), but I don't care caz I want to run it linked sync to FSB and FSB can't run at 2GHz on a quad core, unfortunately ...Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
You have your HDD already corrupted, try to run scandisk and if it will not help, repair windows using the installation CD. I had that problem before with 790P03R2 BIOS ...Quote:
Originally Posted by golfjam
It actually does:Quote:
Originally Posted by fadetoblack
"Improved FSB and memory stability and overclocking"
ok.. but i was referring to:Quote:
Originally Posted by gmcg
"Also, this BIOS does not address the corruption issue reported at Anandtech. This is a top priority issue for EVGA and NVIDIA, and we are working on a fix:"
But those corruptions mostly came from OC so there is a chance that people with P04 might not get corruption problems again. Since there are some that are still having issues, I cant say it corruption WILL go away.
yeah, you're right. vista is gone but xp is good enough to reply this message.:down:Quote:
Originally Posted by gmcg
i'll do a clean install and see what happens.
Yes, but I have no corruption issues. And I over-clock much more than with beta BIOS.Quote:
Originally Posted by fadetoblack
My guess is that they mean to get rid of corruption in any mode, even in the craziest modes like 7-6-5@2000MHz ... so the system will not boot instead of corruption, therefore they need to set all limits for all modes.
Exactly ... and now we can OC good enough ... but still need to do it carefully, later they will set all limits, therefore we will be safe to do it in any mode.Quote:
Originally Posted by slim142
Can anyone tell me how to find if a motherboard is rev C0 or B2?
Easiest way is to take a look on the motherboard itself ... or on the boxQuote:
Originally Posted by FuriousSalesman
Under "mainboard" tab using CPU-ZQuote:
Originally Posted by FuriousSalesman
nice to hear that :)Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
:up:
now my problem is to understand why i get only 7k on write bw :shakes: i have no idea :confused:
Justed installed my SIIE with Vista 64. Installed all update. Running all stock at 1333mhz QDR same for RAM. Everything on auto.
Running original BIOS 0502, no corruption for the moment... Will stay stock until i see a fix.
did they? i thought they said they had a c0 and it was awful?Quote:
Originally Posted by slim142
did they also mention they had a c1 and it worked well?