Hey Wiinter - this is great info - can I ask which Bios version you're using?
Cheers, JW :clap:
Hey Wiinter - this is great info - can I ask which Bios version you're using?
Cheers, JW :clap:
Hope this one helps someone who really wants this 780i board. I went through a bit of pain but it worked out at the end.
Recently I've got Asus Striker II Formula and everything was looking well when I was assembling my new PC (well some old parts were used as well). Turned it on and it goes fine untill I started playing Crisys... 5 minutes into the game and computer just shut down on me, I could understand what went wrong, so started fiddling around with the bios and came across my North Bridge temps which were idling at about 80-82C while shoutdown trigger was set to 90C.
Scratched my head and googled the problem, seemed like lots of people had it and most advised to put a fan on top of NorthBridge to keep it "cooler", after putting fan on top of NB (first fan I used was a fan of the AMD cooler CM Freezer 64, I set it up the way it wasn't blowing directly onto the NB but rather sitting on top of the videocard and blowing upwards, airflow was parralel to the NB, I tried smaller fan blowing directly on to the NB but temps were the same but fan was a bit louder) and it helped, temperatures dropped but not considerably, they dropped to about 76-78 idle and were popping to 86-89 when playing Crysis or loading PC with some resorce hungry tasks. Not enough to trigger the shutdown but come on.... 86-89 is still hot.
Scratching my head again I went a step further as ASUS tech support said you can do anything with the heatpipes without voiding the warranty as long as you don't modify the board itself. Huge step it was (for me at least) to decide and go ahead with heatpipe polishing. But somehow I managed it and I also polished my CPU (Q6600) just as well while everything were out of the case anyway. So I used 600, 1000 and 1200 sandpaper first on both, Heatpipes and CPU and then used Autosol metal polishing paste to polish it to mirror finish, I aslo removed sticky grey stuff from MOSFET coolers to make a better contact and polished them a bit as well (not as good as chip coolers and cpu though).
Once evrything was polished I applied Arctic Alumina (ceramic) thermal compound to NB, SB, all MOSFETs and PCI-E2 chip, I then put heatpipes back and I also used small plastic washers on the back of the board to make heatpipes sit a bit tighter on the chips. I also decide to get rid of a big ugly Freezer 64 Fan from my NB and installed smaller fan from another AMD CPU cooler (3000rpm 9 balde) and with minor modifications screwed it on top of the NB, now it blows air directly onto the Northbridge. Put back my freshly polished CPU with its huge Gemini II cooler (factory polishing on this one is great), used some Arctic Silver 5 thermal compound and put it all back together.
Here are the photos of my work - http://www.vesta.co.nz/striker/ACDSe...ums/index.html
The problem was solved, it took a lot of work, but I am happy with the result at the end of the day. And even though it takes some time it is not as hard to do as it seems, you just have to be carefull with all the little things, use methylated spirits to clean things off and to wipe any residue from chips and wipe everything after polishing to make sure no metal bits left on any electronic components. Now my temperature on NB is 64C on Idle and never goes higher then 76C under full load. Note: I was doing a bit of overclocking and applied voltage to NB was 1.6V and it idled at 68C at this voltage and maxed out 71C (updated figures after some testing)
So here my temperatures running everything at stock:
Ambient room temperature - 24C
CPU Idle - 27C
CPU Load - 46C
NB Idle - 64C
NB Load - 68C
And here my temperatures on overclocked:
Ambient room temperature - 24C
CPU Idle (3.2Ghz, 1.45V) - 36C
CPU Load - 57C
NB Idle (1.6V applied)- 68C
NB Load - 71C
P.S. I then found MIPS waterblocks to cool this one HOT MoBo and ordered them from Aquatuning.de and now can't wait when they arrive to put a waterloop on my mobo. You can find all waterblocks for Asus Striker 2 here - http://www.aquatuning.de/, this you can find MOSFET block, NB & SB blocks.
I also noticed that NB runs much cooler with just one card, the difference was about 8-10C for my board without mods. I also had ThermalTake Toughpower 750W power supply but it wasn't handling it for my specs very well and was giving me lots of BSODs (USB BSOD, NV4_DISP BSOD, GENRAL HARDWARE FAILURE BSOD etc). I couldn't figure why I had all this problems for a while before I used Power Supply calculator from NewEgg, but thats a completely differeng saga alltogether. Now I've upgraded to Ultra X3 1000W and it does fine job.
A bit about OCing this beast: I can do fine up to 3Ghz, however I'm experiencing troble getting anywhere above 3 and being stable...
Anyway, it works fine at 3.0 as I said @ CPU - 1.425V. rest auto.
For 3.2 I tried following
FSB Quad frequencies with 9x multi (currently 1425) tried 1440, 1450, 1500, 1520, 1550, 1600 at no avail, interestig thing it doesn't want to boot at 15xx
Tried 8x multi @ 1800 (doesn't boot), 1600 with no luck getting to windows loading screen.
RAM unlinked and was anywhere from 760 to 818 at 5-5-5-15
CPU 1.42 - 1.55V (.025 steps), also auto
CPU PLL 1.50 - 1.60V, also auto
CPU VTT 1.30 - 1.60V, also auto
RAM 2.10 - 2.30V
NB 1.50 - 1.60, also auto
SB 1.50 - 1.65, also auto
1.2H - 1.20 - 1.30, also auto
Bridge Core 1.20 - 1.30, also auto
LLC enabled/disabled
All spectrums disabled
Virtualization enabled/disabled
LDT 3x, 4x, 5x
I didn't touch "System Clocks" section
Well it is pretty much what I played with.
I can load at 3.2 and work in windows for so long (run some 3DMark 06 and use all my other soft), but it BSODs now and then. At 3.2 the longest Prime was about 2 mins , few sessions of 3D Mark 06 I can do, Everest stress test didn't affect the PC at 3.2Ghz - 2.5 hours before I stopped it, I can work for a few hours without BSOD at 3.2 but its not good enough anyway.
3.2 workable but not stable
CPU 1.475
NB 1.6
Rest - auto
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Basically my wife was immature. I'd be at home in the bath and she'd come in and sink my boats.
- Woody Allen
Vladmax, that is AWESOME info. And, super-validating; I'm in the exact same boat. I can't seem to get over the 3.2GHz hump. When I step it up from 1425 (356) to 1450 (350) strange things happen. Most of the time it just wouldn't boot past the CPU detecton (just prior to RAM check) - but as I edged the NB and CPU volts higher, it started letting me boot into Windows.. but, of course, promptly crash or freeze well before the desktop.
Here's a question for ya - how do you see the NB temps when at load? Are you using the extra sensors?
Here's what I've got for a seemingly stable 3.2GHz:
FSB = 1425 (356)
MEM = 800 (400)
@ 9 mult = 3,206.25 MHz
Voltages:
CPU Voltage = 1.5 (but 1.4875 works too)
CPU PLL = 1.6
CPU VTT = 1.4
Mem Voltage = 2.2
NB Core = 1.56 (but I feel 1.54 would work)
SB Core = 1.60
1.2v HT = 1.2
Bridge = 1.2
CPU GTL_REF Ratio = +30mV
NB GTL_REF Ratio = +30mV
DDRII Contr. Ref = DDR2_REF+10mV
DDRII Chan. A Ref = DDR2_REF+10mV
DDRII Chan. B Ref = DDR2_REF+10mV
CPU @ 61c after 1 hour load (four-core Prime95)
I've got PC-8500 RAM, so I'm going to try playing with its DDRFSB at 800, 867 and 1062 with various timings to see if I can get those writes above 10,000mb/s and latency below 50ns. Suggestions welcome!
Does the QX9650 work properly on this ASUS 780i board? I'm thinking of getting one. Edit; or would it be smarter to get a 790i SLI Ultra mobo with 4 x 1GB DDR3 and a Q9550?
Yeah, it works great... except my particular board doesn't like high FSB, so I played with the multiplier to achieve high OC
What V-Core do you need for say 3,875GHz? Or 4GHz?
My E8400 can run stable @ 455FSB 1,4V (4095MHz) on my Striker 2, but I doubt I can overclock a Q9450 or 9550 very well on it, so that's why I'm considering a QX9650.
Do your Temp sensors work normally on this ASUS board in combination with your QX? My E8400 gives me weird readings, so I have to stick to 3875MHz 1,325V because I don't know what the REAL temps are and I don't trust it. :)
I'm measuring my temps with 3 programs: asus probe, everest and real temp. All are within the same range ±2°C.
I'm very stable at 4.2GHz with only 1.375 vCore
Guys, need some help here.
Got a Q6600 running on this board right now with a pair of OCZ flexXLC9200.
I've read about your settings for the Q6600 but this seems to be a difficult area.
What bios is the best for this cpu? I've been trying a lot of different voltages and settings, but I keep getting "MP init"
Anyone in the mood to give me a hand? It's quite sad as I previously had a maximus formula where I easily reached 3,6ghz. So not being able to even reach 3,2 is really annoying.
Woops, ya, that's bios 1101. Also, the NB is now only about 57c when I check temps in Bios (can't find NB temps in Everest, and Probe crapped out on me).
Welcome to the "ELITE" CLUB :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Wiinter
try Everest for your temps it is quite accurate. Everest has got an MCP temp sensor which I believe is your NB temp, though it is a bit higher then true temp maybe around 4 degrees. I was relying on it for my NB temps, but then I just rebooted (reset button :yepp:) a couple of times and went straight into BIOS to check the temps after loading the system for a while.
I don't have any sensors but might get some as the mobo has got sensor pins anyway, why not use it (well asus didn't bother including the sensors :rofl: )
I've tried 3 different brands of RAM and it didn't work well with either Kingston 9600 (even when running it at 800) nor Winchip 1066 nor Winchip 1200, the only stable ram I have for this board is Corsair 6400C4D and it works flawlessly. I wonder if its got problems with micron D9G chips which they used on Kingston and both Winchips.... cause Corsair is Promo chips.
When are you getting MP Init, on stock speed or on 3Ghz or when?Quote:
Guys, need some help here.
Got a Q6600 running on this board right now with a pair of OCZ flexXLC9200.
I've read about your settings for the Q6600 but this seems to be a difficult area.
What bios is the best for this cpu? I've been trying a lot of different voltages and settings, but I keep getting "MP init"
Anyone in the mood to give me a hand? It's quite sad as I previously had a maximus formula where I easily reached 3,6ghz. So not being able to even reach 3,2 is really annoying.
Put a bit more voltage on CPU, NB and RAM
CPU - 1.5
NB - 1.56 - 1.60 (watch your temps)
RAM - 2.3 - 2.4
at 3Ghz 100% prime stable, at 3.2 Prime stable - less then a minute. :rofl: 780i doesn't like to OC Q6600 too much that is my 5 NZ cents worth.... :clap:
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Coolermaster Cosmos
Intel C2Q Q6600 @ 3.0Ghz
Corsair 6400C4D - 2x1Gb 800( at )4-4-4-12 @ 2.1V
Asus Striker II Formula (BIOS 1101)
2x WD 500Gb 32Mb Cache HDD non raid
2x WD 500Gb 32Mb Cache HDD raid stripe
2x XFX 8800 GTS 512 (G92) SLI @ 720/1100
LG DVD-RW (H42L or whatever it is)
ULTRA X3 1000W Power Supply
ASUS USB Wireless Adaptor WL-167G
Keyboard, Mouse, External HDD
Cooling
Gemini II CPU Radiator cooled by 2x Noctua NF-P12 Fans 1300RPM
4x Noctua NF-P12 CAse Fans 1300 RPM
1x AMD CPU 3000rpm FAN on top of the NB to keep it warm
1x 80mm FAN to help maintain proper airflow around the case
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Basically my wife was immature. I'd be at home in the bath and she'd come in and sink my boats.
- Woody Allen
Thanks guys, I'm gonna try bump the voltages a bit. I checked out the video on youtube and saw this in the comment:
"set the fsb to 1440mhz, set ram in async to 1066mhz, (800 if you have 800mhz).
you can try the maximum speed to fsb 1600Mhz, ram async 1066, Vcore 1,56250 - PLL 1,60 - HT VOLTAGE 1,55 - CPU_GTL REF : + 150mv - NB_REF : +130mv - DDR REF: +30Mv - DDR1 CHANNEL REF: +10mv - DDR" CHANNEL REF: +10mv
I RECCOMMEND YOU TO COOL YOUR PC."
Is it really safe with the CPU_GTL referenses and the NB ref? 130mv is a bit high or?
I have the same problem 100%Quote:
Originally Posted by asp6000
Not sure what to do...
Maybe a problem with the memory control?
Try 1820 FSB... I bet it works... I'm having FSB problems at some frequencies too. 1720 works fine, an then everything till 1818 doesnt work. 1820 works fine again...
LOL.
Here's all I get in Everest Ultimate (attached).
No MCP temp. That's all right, I think the temps are probably fine. I guess my only option would be to increase the multiplier at this point - but I don't think the Q6600 goes beyond 9x.
Those CPU temps are already OC to 3.2 - and still only 35c!
Anything over 1800 FSB real bad, I loss huge on memory 11,300MB/s down to 9,300MB/s & 47 ns up to 69 ns.Quote:
Originally Posted by DHP
1810 FSB I can run 24/7 on 1.34vcore but perfomance sucks.
1820 FSB Fails
1751 FSB - 1803 FSB BSOD
Ran all kinds of dividers & nothing...
Also tried 3 different sets of ram all showing same results, 2GB & 4GB no difference.
Ok this is the start, 3.96GHz Max Runs OCCT, PI 32M Noproblems at all.
http://aycu02.webshots.com/image/494...2514378_rs.jpg
This is the begining of Memory loss, starting at 3.98GHz. 4.0GHz Comes BSOD...
http://aycu04.webshots.com/image/488...8277185_rs.jpg
There's an Everest update on their website - it will include settings for the striker ii - among others.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wiinter
Since 1101 BIOS, I can not remove the ROG logo in the boot up, anyone seen this too ? does not matter if I activate it or not.
hmm question
is cpuz voltage right or wrong..
cause..
the cpuz voltage is correct for the same proc speed i get stable for maximus..
so which is which ??
anybody did a voltmeter test on the mobo??
Hi!
I cannot overclocking CPU E8400, at any changes FSB or RAM - writes System Boot Fail and dumps adjustments on default... Used Clear CMOS without a battery - nothing varies. Bios 1001, 1101, 2x1024 crucial PC-2 6400, striker II formula, 8800gts 512... It at me the second such MoBo, on the first anything similar was not.
Help!
what??? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Buld@zer
so the question about cpuz voltage??
is it correct??
anybody??
Can you post your settings for 4GHz and 4,2GHz plz? I just sold my E8400 and a QX9650 is on its way.Quote:
Originally Posted by _MD_
Tnx. :rolleyes:
I have the latest Everest version and it does have MCP reading, but it doesn't sound right to me... running 98°c... BIOS SB report 75°c max (which is way hot ! even with fan on top of it...)Quote:
Originally Posted by polar bear
Ordering my Striker 2 extreme when i get back from holidays next week :D
If you SB in BIOS is 75 then NB will be around 85 and then it could easily reach 95 when you're in OS. Check that you have NB Overheat enabled and set to 90C in BIOS. Then if your PC shuts down while in OS you'll know that your NB temp is more then 90.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ced-G60
NB run cooler then SB on this board (don't ask me why...) Never went over 70°c NB (with AS5) SB run about 5°c more. I probably just got myself a weak board. I think its a rip off for the price, having to run 1 extra fan both SB/NB show real design flow from ASUS
I have my card set at 90°c never had a shutdown since a installed the 2 fan and AS5 but when i first got this board, it would hit the limit on stock setting with no OC... 90°c SB.
1400mhz FSB with 12x multiplier and 1.375 Vcore. That's it! Everything else on auto! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by DHP
Guys is the CpuZ core voltage correct? I am getting to know my CPU and it's capabilities, before this it was running at 375 X 9 with memory running 1:1 and CpuZ reported core voltage of 1.18, i upped the speed to 385 X 9with memory 1:1 again and core voltage reading is 1.12 this time. I set it to 1.20 in bios though. Using bios 0801 that was shipped with the motherboard.
For me CPU-Z reports lower Voltage for this board then BIOS, PC-PROBE or EVERESTfor me it is as follows:Quote:
Originally Posted by naTTan
BIOS (manualy set) - 1.425
PC PROBE - 1.39
EVEREST - 1.39
CPU-Z - 1.31
The problem i have now is that, Everest and CpuZ is reporting lower then set bios setting, and lower then previous voltage on a lower overclock. Wonder if the chipset is at fault or incorrect prog. Btw the default for E8400 is 1.200 yeah?
this might be cpuz reading the vcore incorrectly...
dont forget cpuz is made by one man and most mainboard manufacturers dont support him and his work at all :D
i think you could help to improve cpuz by posting cpuz dumps here, maybe franck can then use them to improve the vcore readout in a new cpuz version :)
in general all voltages and values you see reported in tools in windows are not 100% reliable.
as far as i know all tools use the same registers to meassure and caclulate timings and temperatures and voltages.
those values are reported by the mainboard itself, and they are not very reliable which is why every tool adjusts the values slightly and adds an offset or uses a slightly different algorythm to interpret the values the hardware reports. thats why different tools report slightly different values.
Hello i´m from germany...i´can not english;(-I´have a Striker ll Formula.
My Results with Striker ll Formula-all on Air:
definately on sli..
yes GPU-Z have a Bug!Quote:
Originally Posted by cstkl1
Ok... so?? showing off, are we? :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by lizardking78
he "cannot english" so forgive himQuote:
Originally Posted by _MD_
kekekee
nice screenies and rig
Finally a striker II review over at anandtech.com
[QX9650, 8GB, and Vista 64-bit]
"It seems that FSBs in the region of 400MHz have marginal stability with the quad-core processors when stressed with actual application benchmarks"
"We tried everything we could to get 3D stability but no amount of memory timing adjustments or component voltages brought us to the promised land of 3D stability"
"In the end we found that 3.5GHz with an FSB of 1400QFSB (350MHz) was the highest we could achieve and still pass PCMark Vantage"
[Initial Thoughts]
"The 1101 BIOS release is pretty much dead-on for dual-core CPU overclocking and general day-to-day use"
"NVIDIA's 780i is on a par with the Intel X38/X48 DDR2 boards when it comes to dual-core CPU overclocking in the performance zone"
"For the quad-core CPUs, we see the 780i coping with the 45nm Penryns in the same way we experienced when the 680i was first introduced to 65nm quad-core processors"
"The stable FSB limits of the 780i boards are still lower than we'd like - especially compared to Intel boards"
Anyway the article makes for a very interesting read.
Thanks. Indeed, very interesting read. But I wonder why they struggle to get the board stable over 4ghz?! As I mentioned before, I'm very stable at 4.2 and mem timings are much tighter... I will post my 3dmark as soon as I receive my second 8800gtx for SLI performance.Quote:
Originally Posted by polar bear
Mmmm seems Striker II needs some more Bios updates , seems a tad slower than the eVGA I tested... or he is running his ram way sloooooooow....
OTOH, the Striker II Extreme rocks hard according to this anandtech blog post from FCG:
http://www.anandtech.com/weblog/showpost.aspx?i=419
yes,next weekend i make a LN2 Session with my Board and QX9650+SLI!Quote:
Originally Posted by _MD_
Yea, FROZEN air! 12c on two of the cores.. or is that the bug mentioned?Quote:
My Results with Striker ll Formula-all on Air
I beg to differ :(Quote:
"NVIDIA's 780i is on a par with the Intel X38/X48 DDR2 boards when it comes to dual-core CPU overclocking in the performance zone"
Hey there Thakkerson it would seem you have a conroe chip like myself, whats the story on your bios settings to acheive 3.94 ghz and is it 100% stable? Any chance you could share your settings, everybody else in the forum either has a Quad or "Wolfdale" Duo chip.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thakkerson
I 2nd that, show us your settings. I've been running this mobo with an E6600 for awhile and I absolutely cannot get this chip faster than 3.6. Q6600 was completely impossible at only 3.2 although that was with 4GB.
Actually been trying to get my hands on a wolfdale duo for some time now but it just keeps getting delayed lol guess we scandinavians are a bit behind the rest of the world and the US in particular it seems
I am running an E6750 and the most stable I can get to is 3.4:mad: ps reg the "Wolfdales" I have been told by another forum member that he reckons Intel have stopped manufacturing or shipping them! .... In the UK my supplier has been out of stock for months now ... are there underlying issues with those chips who knows?Quote:
Originally Posted by polar bear
Hey, thats interesting. In fact I did pre-order a E8400 more than 1.5 months ago now but when it's nearing its due date it just keeps getting delayed. I would really like a 45nm dual-core to complement my striker - not really keen on running a quad with 4GB of mem and vista64 as several people have noted (anandtech's latest runup on the strikerII included) that its not a very ideal combination.
As for my E6600 OC settings, just check my sig. I did bring it up to around 3.8 - could boot and do basic tasks even a 3DMark06 run (15836 with 8800GTX in SLI) but it didnt last long in day-to-day use and didnt pass everest/OCCT stress tests for more than a few mins.
Both my e6600 and q6600 do 4G on this mb at 450fsb, I am trying to get 4.1G stable for the q6600. As I posted before the gtl for cpu and nb need to be at +30mv or more and with 4G of ram.Quote:
Originally Posted by polar bear
Some screens and even a boot at 475fsbx8 for the q6600.
http://good-times.webshots.com/album/562815005UcJRyK
475fsbx8, 30 min OCCT with q6600
http://good-times.webshots.com/photo...67863468edvpcv
Setting showing in asus probe.
Quote:
Originally Posted by polar bear
Talking about being behind the rest of the world mate.... :D you should come and visit New Zealand, this is a REAL STONE AGE here, have to order all my stuff from all over the world.. :ROTF:
Wow, NZ yes. Lived in Oz for 6 years. Went to NZ as well. Absolutely beatiful country.
:clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by fordf250
You either got a magic boar + CPU, or magic fingers.. nice overclock for quad core.
Q6600 1hr OCCT 425fsbx9 3.8G at 1.4V with 4G of ram.
http://good-times.webshots.com/photo...67863468nIMJCf
This is my low voltage silent settings with all fans on low. 4G needs the nb fan on high.
I am guesing with an air cooled setup there is no room between the cpu cooler and the gfx card for a nb fan, and no small fans on the fet coolers? Is this why there are not many high clocking Strikers?
Aight.. ford.. your settings/voltages don't look too far off mine, but the instant I go to 360fsb, it freaks out. Let's say I just wanted 400fsb even, I'm going to put out some 'guesses' as to what might work, then, if you're up for it, please tweak and re-post. And I'll give them a shot (I won't be an ass if something goes wrong).
FSB = 1600 (400mhz)
MEM = 800 (400mhz)
@ 9 mult = 3,600mhz
Voltages:
CPU Voltage = 1.6
CPU PLL = 1.6
CPU VTT = 1.5
Mem Voltage = 2.2
NB Core = 1.60
SB Core = 1.60
1.2v HT = 1.50
Bridge = 1.20
CPU GTL_REF Ratio = +30mV
NB GTL_REF Ratio = +30mV
DDRII Contr. Ref = DDR2_REF+30mV
DDRII Chan. A Ref = DDR2_REF+30mV
DDRII Chan. B Ref = DDR2_REF+30mV
I'm on air and the temps are good, I've got extra fan blowing right on top of the NB, it shouldn't affect the OC, however I cant get stable anywhere above 3.0Ghz... bad board or CPU I guess :(Quote:
Originally Posted by fordf250
Got an 80mm fan directly over the NB, sort of wedged b/w CPU heatsink and GFX. Still, NB temp is 75C idle lol :down: Stock cooling solution IMO is appaling, especially with the known heat related issues of the 680i/780i chipsets. Why Asus didnt offer a fusion block on the striker ii like the maximus boards is beyond me...
Currently waiting for MIPS blocks to replace the stock solution.
Wow. Idle 40+ and load around 50+. 75C is hot.Quote:
Originally Posted by polar bear
Thats what I run but my cpu only needs 1.325V core at 3.6G and I never change the DDR Ref voltage from auto.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wiinter
Hello,i have a Update: Striker ll F. and XP QX9650 Batch L739A664(IFX-14) 2x8800 GTS G92(Referenz cooled).Quote:
Originally Posted by fordf250
Weekend 4/5.04 LN2 Session with my Striker;)
Good job lizardking. But you don't really need LN2 to reach 4.5ghz...Quote:
Originally Posted by lizardking78
The proc has very high overclock potential. All it needs is a somewhat decent cooling... On air, it flies at 4.7ghz.
on DICE/LN2 -> 5.3ghz.
Hypothetical question:
If you've got an E8400, a Striker II Formula, 2GB of the best DDR2 ram out there, and moderate water cooling for the CPU, without remounting the chipset cooling....
can you achieve a 500x8 1:1 4-4-4-12 overclock ?
oh yeah, is the 1101 BIOS any good?
Quote:
Originally Posted by mashakos
I dont know but I have ram that does 500 at 4-4-4-12 and a cpu that does 500fsbx8 on the x38 so I will try for you.
Bios 1101 would not let me change the multi.
Sorry, for me it would not even post with 5-5-5-18 at 500fsbx8. I have run this mb to 475x8 with a quad but never got to 500fsb.
thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by fordf250
I am installing this crazy board today, will flash it to 1001 BIOS based on what you and others mentioned about the multi's. Since I'm using AS5, will have to keep it at stock for a WEEK :(
Can any of you post pictures of your air cooling solutions for the NB?
Like What?Quote:
Originally Posted by HaD3k
I have a 120mm fan with one point on the gfx card, one point on the nb, one point near the cpufan plug and one point pointing to the dvd drive with the exhaust side of fan flat against the ram and nb.
I am not getting the drop in bandwidth over 450fsb like some posted. Memtest shows it climbing from 450- 475 still.
post screens? whats your everest latency?Quote:
Originally Posted by fordf250
and are you raising via bios or clockgen? clockgen the drop doesnt occur, but gets very unstable.
Bios overclock only. Have not use a clockgen since 865P and I have not used everest in years as I thought it was only a synthetic benchmark just calculating from ram setting values to give theoretical bandwidth.Quote:
Originally Posted by WeStSiDePLaYa
My post says I see an increase in memtest that is hard to show screens.
I am working on some other tests to see if performace goes up.
Some info on cpus at 4G same rig and ram settings.
450fsbx9 for all, ram 1:1 at 4-4-4-12.
Opening scene of 3dmark06, prxycon.
E6600 110fps
Q6600 115fps
E6850 120fps
E8400 130fps.
The E8400 gives 2more fps in crysis benchmark than E6850, medium@1600x1200 giving 76.5fps AVRG.
I dont know why there is a diff with the e6600 to e8650 both at the same settings, its a good e6600 needing only .5Vcore more to be stable at 4G than the E6850.
The E8400 is also only 1000 points behind the Q6600 at 4G in 3Dmark06 overall.
I will download everest and test 450 and 475 same ram settings.Quote:
Originally Posted by WeStSiDePLaYa
475fsbx9 almost 12000mb/s read and 44.4ns latency.
http://good-times.webshots.com/photo...67863468IhqJfp
Is this good or bad?
At 475fsbx9 the e8400 is only 200 points lower overall in 3dmark06 than the Q6600 at 4G.
Opening scene of proxycon 3dmark06 at 475fsb is 138fps .
I would say its impresive:clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by fordf250
What is your trd setting in bios?
trd? 4-4-4-12 2t all others auto.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil The Greek
This is the best I got with my first striker II with trd=5.The second striker I have now,can't even reatch 10000MB/s in everest like it doesn't get the trd I am setting in bios.Please go in bios and try trd=5 and let me know what you got.
trd of 5 gave a lower score by 50mb/s
I can get 11200mb.s at 450fsb with 4G of ram running 5/6 at 540mhz and 2V and fans on low so this will be 24/7.
Here's my initial weeks work. I basically increased numbers as per PC probe detailed as per auto settings, and then increasing the voltages until they leveled out and worked without any problems. As I currently have one VGA card in for RMA, but have put a Zalman 9700 on board, I have tried clocking three more times. As you can see, I got a higher clock speed than previous, but lower 3DMark numbers (due to only one VGA card).
Green = totally stable
Yellow = unstable (BSOD at some point)
My goal is to reach 20k on 3DMark, so will continue on that quest when I get my card back.
If anyone has any input to add to this, I'm sure I and others will be appreciative.
Is my RAM going to get me there? Timings change?
what do you mean by 4G? 4GB ram?Quote:
Originally Posted by fordf250
and what are your volt settings btw?
Are the vista drivers for the audio card on the Striker II as crap as the ones for other ASUS boards?
I'm referring to the ASUS P5W and P5B here, which had drivers that made the vista boot time ridiculously long. An uninstall of the drivers would not reverse the issue.
I'm considering installing it, but don't want to get into that situation again.
All cpus at 4000mhz. 450x9 with ram 1:1 4-4-4-12Quote:
Originally Posted by mashakos
E6600 1.65V
Q6600 1.55V
E6850 1.6V
E8400 1.35V
I would run the Q6600 for everything as its only 6C higher at full load than the E8400 but the E8400 kicks it butt in games and thats all I do.
how are the temps overall??Quote:
Originally Posted by fordf250
I have everything on stock right now, and my idle temp is 39C. Don't know if that's so great considering the CPU is an E8400 on watercooling.
What's a good temp reader for the Striker II btw? Speedfan doesn't have the correct labels, and nvidia's nforce system monitor doesn't give me temps other than the CPU and GPU :confused:
I had to switch to real temp for the cpu, coretemp showed 45C idle at default 3G and 1.2Vcore.
A note to all getting low bandwidth.
Looking at other posts, lots of people are running lower motherboard voltage than me so I started dropping voltages to see when the bw dropped. Turns out for me that a 1.2HT of 1.5V gives 9300mb/s at 450fsb and a 1.2HT of 1.55V gives me 11370mb/s all other settings the same. Funny, 1.6HT will not even post.
If you get low bandwidth try upping the 1.2HT volts.
To get my personal record of 20696, it took 3.85GHz Q6600 and gpu clocks (two 8800 GTS 512MB in SLI) were 720/1836/2016. So I think your cpu speed must have well over 4GHz or/and your gpus heavily oced to reach 20k.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hor$eman
HI guys i just got my pc before some days but i am having problem with my overclocking i just got rech to 3.4 with 1100mhz memory with 5-4-4-15 2t at 2.10v
i increase vcore in bios to 1.26 but in cpu z its show vcore 1.0**
but i cant get higher over clock any tips and trick look at my pc info
CPU E8400 WITH ZALMAN 9700LED
ASUS STRIKER II FORMULA
OCZ REAPER 1066 2X2
9600GT SLI
PCPOWER&COOLING 610 WATT
ANTEC 900
HANNS.G 28INCH LCD WITH 3MS AND 1920X1200RES
ANY HELP PLZ
hmmm, just tried core temp and it gave me core 0: 44C & core 1: 39CQuote:
Originally Posted by fordf250
The other processors I had were usually had cores that were much closer in temps.
Fordf250 do you mine posting your overclocking step by step to reach 475X9?
Horsemen are you using E8400? I saw that your voltage would drop initially are you reading from bios or CpuZ? as of now i am using E8400 at 385X9 all at stock voltage. Bios voltage is at 1.2 and CPU-Z is reading it at 1.12. I am trying to get as high as i can on stock.
oh after some oc trys i reached 3.82ghz with 1.26volt and get 17k in 3dmmark06
with a vga oc at 760 /2000 / 950
but with some artifacts in last 2 test
any way to increase vga volt 0.* volt ??? thx i would like to hit 19 20k if i can
naTTan
Yes, E8400 as I have now indicated in my signature.
I read temps with PC Probe II and correlate with real temp. I have to set real temp to + to get a similar temp as PC Probe II, as a 0 it is lower. I go with the higher temp or PC Probe II.
Vcore I read from PC Probe II, not from CPU-ID, which always reads lower.
Here are my results for 4050 Mhz and for best 6400 RAM timings/results. I'm not going to bother trying to go higher, as WeStSiDePLaYa says the latency increases greatly past 450x9. This has been totally stable, and got me my highest (single GPU) 3DMark score (one card is RMA). :up:
Here are my MB voltage settings to achieve the actual voltages as per below:
CPU: 1.4
PLL: 1.6
VTT: 1.4
MEM (As per your RAM requirements)
NB 1.5
SB 1.55
1.2HT: 1.3
Bridge 1.2
CPU GTL_REF +20
NB GTL_REF +20
DDRII Controller +20
DDRII A: REF
DDRII B: REF
What I do to get the voltages is set a multiplyer, then if boots, check PC Probe II voltages. If the voltage in PC Probe II is higher than what I have the bios set at, I increase the bios voltage to match what PC Probe II shows. If and when the bios and the MB voltages match, or the PC Probe II voltage does not increase, I would think that is the best voltage setting.
Very interesting and crazy at the same time.Anyway did a fast try with 1.6 and 1.65 (witch booted just fine)but B/W didn't raise at all.Looks like locked @ 9300MB/s:shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by fordf250
I'll test further tomorrow:up:
None of this is near stock voltage, my cpu and motherboard need lots to get to 475fsb. These setting are the same for running my Q6600 at 475x8 but the northbridge GTL needs to be +40mV.Quote:
Originally Posted by naTTan
http://good-times.webshots.com/photo...67863468JTXgoX
475x9 with E8400 and ram linked 1:1 at 4-4-4-12.
Bios 1101
Vcore 1.45V
PLL auto -gives 1.62V
VTT auto -gives 1.49V
Vram 2.42V
Vnb 1.8V
Vsb auto -gives 1.52V
1.2HT 1.55V
bridge auto
CPU GTL auto
NB GTL +20mV
All others auto.
How wel does GTS suppose to scale? I have 2x8800 GTS and the numbers are as follow:Quote:
Originally Posted by Family man 72
Q6600 @ 3.2Ghz
rest is stock
Single 8800GTS stock
3DMark 06 - 14210
SLI 8800GTS stock
3DMark 06 - 17136
so it only scales about 20% is it a good number?
Here are the best settings I have found so far for 1800 FSB 4.05 Ghz, as well as the best RAM timings (PC6400) that are stable.
Next I'm going to try some higher FSBs.
I pulled the sriker II out today to try some better cooling options. Turns out the nb heatsink was not tight and the thermal paste was very dry and not sticking to the other contact points. Im going to clean them up and repaste to see if the temps drop.
Does any one know it i can just cool the nb, sb with some other cooler and leave the 3rd bridge naked if Im not triple sli'ing.
Allright folks, be gentle with me. I'm new here, but I've been around computers since the 'ole 486 in the late 80's. Overall, I'm pretty knowlegable with computers. Recently, I just took the plunge and built a rig...
Intel E8400
Crucial Ballistix 1066
Striker II Formula
Seagate Baracuda 750MB 3.0 Gps 32mb cache (2ea) RAID 0
GeForce 8800GTX
Cooler Master 750watt PSU
X-Fi Platinum sound card
LG Blu-Ray disc drive
I think I did ok. I'm setting the rig up as a home theater pc, but I also intend to do some gaming with it. So far it's all coming together pretty well. What I'd like to do now is delve into a little overclocking. I'd like to keep it stable (of course), and from what I gather reading the forums and reviews, a target of 3.6 Ghz is what sounds like the deal for me. This way I know the rig will be stable, and I should be able to get away with the stock E8400 cooler. For added measure, I have 4ea 120mm fans installed in the case.
Anyways, I'm new to the forum, and deffinately new to overclocking. If someone would be kind enough to help me achieve a stable 3.6 final clock speed...you'd make my day. Thanks in advance.
Doc
Nice rig.Quote:
Originally Posted by doctor_g
Read this. The 3600 numbers I posted were stable, 2 hours orthos. Note that the temp with the stock cooler was close to 60c. An aftermartket cooler is definitely in order if overclocking.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=377
I used the Mosfet fans which came with the board for the NB and SB. They actually clip right on, and lower temps about 10c to 13c. If your cooling CPU with air, the other (3rd) bridge can be left, yes, naked.Quote:
Originally Posted by fordf250
The fan on the NB clips on vertically, while the one on the SB clips on to the right side of the SB.
any way to lower temp by using acs5 on nb and sb .
Am sure i got myself a crappy mobo... You guys are getting real low temp on the NB and SB..
my SB is running 70-75°c all the time even with a fan on top of it and AS5 all over... NB is little lower at about 65°c
That why i got myself a SIIE, hope i wont be disappointed again by ASUS, or never looking back
Ced-G60
Not sure where I read it, but someone who had high temps on their NB and SB pulled off the NB,SB, and mosfets, cleaned everything up(removed old thermal paste), sanded and polished everything to a mirror image, and re-pasted with arctic silver. If I remember correctly, his temps came down by ~30c by doing this.
While this shouldn't have to be done by us, the user, it is something to try.
Although my temps are reasonable, I am going to do this next time I do any renovations on my rig.