same here !Quote:
Originally Posted by dogsx2
when i change vdim to more than +0.3v it shows "Fail" in front of DDR 18v :(
i've got Gskill 6400HZ
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same here !Quote:
Originally Posted by dogsx2
when i change vdim to more than +0.3v it shows "Fail" in front of DDR 18v :(
i've got Gskill 6400HZ
DDR Fail is a normal MBs response to not having exactly 1.8V @ ddr2.
Nothing to worry about
so why DDR 18v is OK when i choose +0.3 so 2.1v ... ?
That's what I'm thinking when I read the answer.Quote:
Originally Posted by geof
and it's strange because i can push my 6400HZ higher with 2.1 than higher vdimm so it must have some importance
the same for you dogsx2 ?
I'd know if this mb is fully compatible with Windows 2k3 server?
I've strange results with Superpi 1mb...
9xQuote:
Originally Posted by geof
enabled
400
100
diabled
2.00
800
manual
4
4
4
12
auto
auto
auto
0
auto
normal
+0.2 vdimm
+0.1
+0.1
+0.2 MCH
1.5000
1.325
auto
Ive have placed a fat north bridge heatsink on the nb, and also 2 silent fans on the nb heatsink and south bridge. That helps alot ...
2.1 in the bios and pushing up the volts with ET.Quote:
Originally Posted by geof
I can't pass 300 htt boot with e6600. With same setting and 1.6v I could reach 465x8 with an e6400.Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwi
I am so pissed I cant solve this! I even tryed to lower e6600 multi to 6 and still doesnt boot beyond 300...
I'm getting errors in memtest and bad_call_pooler blue screen in 3dmark05 with my 2x1GB OCZ PC6400 EL Platinum XTC. Vdimm is set to +.3. Have tried using both sticks seperately and in different slots; getting the errors regardless.
Any ideas?
Question about OC'ing failures. What does it mean if when running dual prime the computer just hard locks with no prime errors? This happens to me a lot, but at other settings when my vcore is to low i get rounding errors in prime and it fails gracefully.
i'll try this , thanks a lot ! :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pjoeloe
My DS3 board and 6400 should be in tommorow. I am getting 2 gbs of the Gskill Hz ram.
If the board does boot up with one stick, I do need to change dimm to +.3 to give it 2.1v, right?
:( I also have a fortron power supply, crossing fingers.
Quote:
Originally Posted by slatr
Its strange but with BIOS F4 Oficial and vdimm auto, easy tune reads 2.1v!
Thanks Monk
My backup plans are cheap memory to boot up and update the bios and a new power supply.
UGH I don't want to spend any more money right now, I hope I need neither
no pb here with a Fortron epsilon 600W ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by slatr
speedfan reads 1.9v ... ( 1.8v with others bios )Quote:
Originally Posted by MonkSP
Where in Easy Tune does the vdimm display? Or do I need to d/l speedfan to get an accurate reading?Quote:
Originally Posted by geof
My BIOS settings are @ http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=282Quote:
Originally Posted by geof
I can post 375x9 and get into Windows but my temps are too high...
somebody who can tell what this does in the bios and if they must been enabled or disabled for best overclocking ? :)
- Limit CPUID Max. to 3:
- No-Execute Memory Protect:
- CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E):
- CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2):
- Virtualization Technology:
- Robust Graphics Booster:
- C.I.A. 2
Dude, no offense, but :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing read page 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pjoeloe
so as me you can't boot over 375 :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Ribbon
i have a 80mm fan on nb and it never goes above 35/40 in load so i think it's not the pb
i'll try to put a fan on sb too as Pjoeloe did , it's the only one who can boot 9*400 in air ...
but with coef 8 i can boot with 8*430 ... ( i prefer to stay with 9 because of my machII gt i will use soon )
What you are seeing with the multi's is the DS3 and the E6600 not playing nice together, since you can do 430*8. Unfortunately, probably the only way you will get any higher is to get a different board.Quote:
Originally Posted by geof
FYI I have no issues with any USB devices. Logitech G15, MX518, Joystick or Belkin N52....they all work fine at 429Mhz
i know ...Quote:
Originally Posted by korruptedone
that's why i'll try a P5B dlx soon and a P5W-DH later .
But with my DOD i need a mb which can handle high fsb and that's why i choose P965 instead of 975x ( which is better for big multi but it doesn't like high fsb ... )
hard to find the good one ...:rolleyes:
O found the major bug which is runing my set:
I choose manually de fsb and set it to 266 - result is 1.9 vdimm
No change in BIOS and just choose 300 fsb - result is 2.1 vdimm
WTF! My mems give tons of errors with 2.1vdimm. They do 450 1:1 with my e6400 with only 1.9vdimm. Plz fix this!!!
I couldn't even POST 400x8.. I didn't try anything lower than 400fsb with 8multi because I was so mad that THAT didn't even work =x (that would make my RAM going 800mhz @ 1:1, which it should be able to do stock, but I couldn't touch it..)Quote:
Originally Posted by geof
Again my tips for those hitting FSB walls are
ONE: Try putting PCIE Freq. at AUTO. It has given me nearly 100FSB more than with it locked at any number.
TWO: Try lowering the vdim if you have it at +0.2 or higher. I get my best results at 0.1V
All the other tihngs I could say have been said many times already, but not these two.
Using the @BIOS program, which file do you select to flash bios after extracting the file you downloaded from gigabyte's website?
just set manually vdimm +0.1 in bios, you'll get 1.9v ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by MonkSP
for 400 and more with 8 multi i have to increase mch and fsb +0.2 , maybe it can help you ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ribbon
Quote:
Originally Posted by mitftw
the biggest one :)
not exe and not bat so there is 1 left, the name depends on MB type and bios rev.
the one whose file name is your mobo model and the extension is the new BIOSQuote:
Originally Posted by mitftw
example: 965pds3.f4
Are you saying the BIOS is auto overclocking vdimm when FSB increases?Quote:
Originally Posted by MonkSP
i didn't try but it's possible because F4 bios seems to increase vcore with fsb in auto ...Quote:
Originally Posted by BottomsUp
It did the same thing for me when i used the F4 bios, i switched back to the F4c, F4 wasn't as stable for some reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by geof
I think you get 100 mhz more because you upgraded to F4 and then you locked the pcie freq, that is what I understand from your previous reply.Quote:
Originally Posted by delas52
a higher fsb with only +0.1 V, sounds like your power suppy not supplying the voltages needed :p:
please give the info because I can`t find it on page 1 ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by korruptedone
Fresh from Newegg, shipped with F3 bios flashed to F4c. This is a totally different animal compared to my MSI 975X Plat. That being said I get the same SuperPi 1M times with the MSI with a 200mhz lower cpu clock and lower FSB. Need to tighten these timings but cannot seem to find that option in the bios. Might need alittle help.
http://home.comcast.net/~phippy1/gigabyte.bmp
RacerX....go into the main bios page and push control + F1 ..then go back down to the overclock tab and you will see the latencies settings.
Okay don't understand what you're saying, but my point is setting PCIE to auto is not bad (for me at least) and can sometimes help.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pjoeloe
Less volts also mean less heat, and also these motherboards are very strange as you know so logic doesn't always apply.
Well I have had nothing but problems with the F4 bios for the ds3. I can't seem to get any consistancy like I did before. Sometimes I can boot up just fine and sometimes I cannot. I have spent about 20 hours and 500 reboots trying to get a stable OC starting from scratch and clearning CMOS after flashing. My system runs pretty stable with the occassional freezing during xp boot screen but I cannot get it to be dual prime stable like I was before with F3.
The closest I can get stable but still not dual prime is:
400x8 @ 3.2ghz @ 1:1
+.3vdimm
+.1vfsb
+.1gmch
1.40625vcore
I am racking my brain here..... I guess I'll just go back to the F3 bios....
Right!Quote:
Originally Posted by BottomsUp
Vcore and Vdimm. When u just raise htt to 300, vcore switches to 1.41 and Vdimm 2.10.
You have to force vcore 1.325 and vdimm +1 to get back to 1.9
Hey I see some people not liking the F4 bios for the DS3? Did I see that there is a F4C BIOS as well?
Before the F4, I couldn't OC at all, not even 1 Mhz. Now I can OC fine, except at I can't dual Prime95 stable at 3.0 Ghz, but I can at 2.92 Ghz.
Specs are:
E6300 Allendale OC'ed to 2.92 Ghz (8 X 365)
2 gigs of Corsair XMS2 DDR2 6400 (currently running at 730 Mhz though using 2.0 multpipler)
Gigabyte DS3
Vcore: 1.345 - DIMM: 2.1v (+.3v) - GMCH: +.2v from stock- FSB +.2v from stock
So get this, my memory isn't stable at 400x8 OC though it SHOULD be because its meant for 800Mhz. No matter how much I up the voltage on the VCore or GMch, I still am not stable. IF I try to goto 2.3v on my RAM, I can't boot (with some funky system file error). Any ideas of why memory isn't stable when it should be a 800Mhz? I'm thinking I should disable some of those advanced features in BIOS like the virtual technology blah blah and USB legacy things. Anyone have this issue?
I am in a very similar situation. when i dual orthos test my box it fails when I do a mix of cpu/memory but if i do a cpu only test(small ftt) i am totally stable. I have awesome expensive HZ Gskill memory and I am currently at +.3 vdimm, +.1vfsb, +.1gmch 1.4vcore but if I raise vfsb or gmch I cannot post and if I lower or increase memory v I cannot post....Quote:
Originally Posted by wolfman140
Aye, tonight I'm going to try disabling those advanced BIOS features and see what happens.
I also read that the Northbridge temp created a wall for some, so putting a fan on it helped. My EasyTune says that my Northbridge is a safe 44C...But who knows if that's accurate?
Yup, I complete Super PI tests just fine, but have errors with Memtest and Prime95. So...It's definately RAM related I think and not VCore. Then again, the northbridge acts as a communicator between all of them so...if that sucker is too hot, I imagine RAM related issues can occur.
Have you tried the Small FFT tests in prime, to try and isolate the errors?Quote:
Originally Posted by wolfman140
That's a big negative. I'm a noob at this so I don't even know what the FFT test is...Care to briefly explain:)Quote:
Originally Posted by korruptedone
Well, explain to me exactly what you are doing to prime your chip, and we'll go from there.Quote:
Originally Posted by wolfman140
For a quick test, I run two instances of Memtest. If I get errors with that, it means I most definately will get errors with Prime95.Quote:
Originally Posted by korruptedone
For the Prime, I run two instances of Prime95 each on the different cpu, and I do a Torture Test, and set the usable RAM for each instance to half (naturally). That's pretty much it. If I'm unstable, I will fail that test in the first 4 min or so.
Which test are you running in torture test, though? There are 3. If you aren't changing it, then on the Dialog Box that says "Run a Torture Test", set it to Small FFTs. It sounds like you are using Blend. Small FFTs will stress the CPU and try to keep your RAM out of the equation, as it uses a data set that fits into the L2 cache of the CPU.Quote:
Originally Posted by wolfman140
Aye OK I know what you mean. Yeah I goto Custom to set the RAM amount (its the choice below Blend I believe) I'm at work right now, so I'll have to check it out when I get back. So I'll give that a shot later, and if it runs successfully that would confirm my RAM is the weakest link? Could a hot northbridge temp be a cause as well? The thing I don't understand is that I'm actually running my 800Mhz RAM at 730Mhz right now...So why should it fail? It runs fine at 800Mhz at stock settings. Thanks for the tips and I'll give it a shot later.Quote:
Originally Posted by korruptedone
Ya if those tests pass, something somewhere is not right. Another thing you could try is to set the divider to AUTO, and set your chip to stock FSB. That should run your RAM at 800mhz. Then run some tests. Because if you are failing small FFT's it almost certainly isn't your RAM, and if you can run what I just suggested and not get any errors in memtest or a blend test, then it's definately not your RAM. The NB heat could very well be your problem. However, if, when running stock FSB and your RAM at 800, if you get memtest errors or blend errors, it probably is the RAM. Let us know how those tests work out for ya.Quote:
Originally Posted by wolfman140
I can tell you already I know for a fact that at stock fsb, and RAM divider on Auto that my system is stable. I ran Prime and memtest on it at stock before I started OC'ing and all was rock solid. I'll run the tests...But the FIRST thing I'm going to do is latch a fan onto the side of the NB heatsink and see what happens. I'll let ya know.Quote:
Originally Posted by korruptedone
Okay so that narrows it down, and I'd lean towards putting the blame on heat. If you don't have an aftermarket cooler or a fan on the NB, definately slap one on there. If you don't plan to get a new cooler and just go the fan route, take the cooler off, do your best to get that ghetto ass stuff Gigabyte has the nerve to call thermal paste (mine was paste and then there was this layer of hard ass tin foil....wtf?) off of the cooler, and put something worthwhile on there, like some AS5. If you do that, be careful as the NB is an open die (I think that's the right term....there's no heatspreader like I was used to on nforce chipsets). I wasn't prepared for that and thought I might have broken something since the heatsink came off rather violently.Quote:
Originally Posted by wolfman140
Set your RAM voltage to whatever your RAM specifically needs, as well. Too much voltage can give you errors as well, as you've noticed with not being able to boot. You shouldn't need more vmem until you AT LEAST hit 800mhz (remember the DS3 stock vmem is 1.8v).
Well I set up my Spirit II, NB is nice and cool... But the Southbridge gets pretty damn warm too.
quick question, is the S3 as good as the DS3?
Anyone having problems hitting high FSBs with DS3 using an IDE hard drive?
OK...the only test I didn't conduct was putting a fan on the NB, I may do that yet but as of now here's the dealo:
A) I ran the Small FFT tests on my cpu (which hardly stresses RAM), it ran fine at 3.0Ghz...after that, it fails when trying to run the second instance. No matter what VCore I up it to or adding FSB/GMch voltage, it fails. I don't know how to explain that. I'm hoping maybe if I cool my NB chip better that will change?
B) I actually did have too much juice going to my RAM, I lowered it down to stock, and was damn close to stable at 3.0Ghz but not quite, so I upped it another .1v and its stable now. (Even though its not running at a rated 800Mhz)
C) I can't even begin to boot if I set the multiplier to 7 and up the FSB to 450 or so.
In conclusion, I fear that the wall I'm hitting is cause of my cpu and/or motherboard. I've still got some room to go up with my RAM so its not the RAM. I've got an AC unit very near to my comp so I fear that the NB isn't over heating either, as I DO NOT have any added GMch voltage. I'll just cross my fingers that Gigabyte will be releasing more BIOS revisions. For now, 3.0 Ghz from 2.13 Ghz will have to do. Scoring 19.5's in Super PI.
Ok, I haven't even been able to get to overclocking yet on this thing. Here's the problem:
When I first set up DS3+e6400+OCZ Gold it would not boot. Used some low end Kingston to boot up, flashed to F4c, then would boot using OCZ ram and was able to install XP Pro without issues. Everything seemed good, until I found that it would crash within a few minutes of running any 3D game. By crash I mean either freeze solid, drop to Windows, or else just reboot itself (nothing like going from a fragfest to looking at your BIOS, is there?). Because this happened in games only, I presumed video card (and an older one didn't seem to have the problem) problems so I RMAd the card (earlier this week). Then this afternoon, I loaded a game using the old card and started playing. It suddenly froze up completely, so I powered it off. When I turned it back on, I get a No Signal Detected and my monitor shuts off. Nothing. Nada. No post, won't respond to clearing the BIOS, changing the memory to the cheap stuff again, nothing.
Anyone got any suggestions to try? I'm at my wit's end here...
Yes, in fact. I was, my wall was under 400. i had to use like 1.6 vcore to hit 400fsb...... no thanks so i took my conroe/mobo right back to fry's where it will stay until this conroe crap is sorted out. It was a week 24 e6400. the next im gonna try to buy is 25+ or wait for kentsfield..or just use 975 chipsetQuote:
Originally Posted by mitftw
Quote:
Originally Posted by vintage_guitar
What bios are you guys using? I'm on F3 and i'm under 350 atm. Passive cooling, and stock volts though. Dont feel like pushing it yet, so maybe tommorow >_>
Yup, just spent 3 hours re-wiring my case for better cable management, and put an 80mm fan inside shooting up towards RAM and Northbridge in a very ghetto, twisty-tie style. After all that work, I only see a drop in temps maybe 2C and still can't OC any further (so maybe its not a hot NB after all). So that was a total waste of time, not to mention there is a fan twisty-tied onto power cables in there. Can't be good news.
Well...Whatever. In a couple months I'll just get a water-cooling system and get a NB and VGA waterblock. If I can over clock more from lower temps...awesome. If I can't, well I guess I just have a cooler running system.
Final Specs:
E6400 OC to 3.0 Ghz at 1.34 Vcore
2 gig of Corsair XMS2 DDR2 6400 at 2.10v (running 5-5-5-12 @ 730Mhz)
Leadtek 7900GT 560/760
Silverstone Zeus PSU
And an additional fan twisty-tied down inside the case..woo woo.:slapass:
i guess there are solid-state caps on the ds3 and not the s3. i just ordered an S3 because it was cheaper, but i prolly wont get as good an OC as with a ds3.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hypertek
the max oc i hit on my 6400 is about 3.79ghz, 474x8 @ 1.6v. i dont know about you guys, but i only hit a fsb wall with the F1 bios, im running the F4e now
Thanks for this! :banana: :banana: Let's me know how the DS3 is ahead of time. :banana:
Yes, you have to disable some of the uneeded BIOS stuff if you want to OC further. I'm using Corsair 6400 XMS2 2x1gb and it OCs just fine beyond 1,000mhz with only 2v. This RAM does not want and does not like voltage. If you are having issues with it then manually set to 5-5-5-15. Soon as my Scythe Ninja arrives I'll see about going higher than 476x7 that I've been running due to temp concerns. I'm still using the F4e BIOS. I found out all it takes is just one of the other "advanced bios features" to make everything unstable, so if you want over 400FSB then disable them. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by wolfman140
486x7=3.5ghz
MCH=Stock
FSB=Stock
RAM=+0.2 (for 2v)
PCIe=AUTO (No PCIe GPU card here)
vCore=1.356v
F4e DS3 BIOS
Booting off a SATA drive, CPU cooler is currently active cooling the MCH heatsink and I stuck a 40mm fan on the ICH8 heatsink. I wouldn't have a clue about a "S3" board...
Wolfman, what are your CPU temps like? I can OC to the moon, but it doesn't matter at what point if the CPU reads 58c or higher as then it'll instantly error in Prime95. I wasn't using CoreTemp at the time so I can't say what those were at, however right now for an hour of Dual Prime95ing CoreTemp reads 58-60c. I expect the Scythe Ninja to knock 8-10c off of that, and I'll OC futher...
Denithor, sounds like your RAM wasn't stable. F4c BIOS does not set the voltages correctly, you must do that on your own. I'd suggest trying the Kingston RAM again, and keep in mind your board is only givng 1.8v for the RAM.
I have a DS4, not a DS3, so sorry for posting here but im having similar problems just like the DS3, im one of the people who can't even OC 1mhz.
Ive tried the diable legacy USB storage detect ...no go
i have a 6800GT videocard and GEIL 2x1gb PC6400 value ram ...does anyone know whether these are known to cause problems?
The 6800GT has consistenly caused problems with this board.Quote:
Originally Posted by a5h
Right now I'm running at the specs in sig. I was having many memory errors in memtest which were entirely alleviated by increasing the voltage of the MCH and FSB both by +1. After that at 5-5-5-15 (haven't messed with lowered timings) it passes 2 instances of memtest at 800mb/each and at least 10 min of single instance P95 (0 errors I just stopped the test.) I don't do anything IMO that is more stressful than 10 min of uninterrupted P95 so if it passes that point I'm usually satisfied.
My goal is at least 3.5ghz on this DS-3, right now I'm just happy to have it stable and will stick with this for awhile. The system is massively fast, and I'm quite pleased.
BTW, my temps in CoreTemp on 1 instance P95 are 44c for both cores with an ambient of about 85F. (Hot day.) In Smartguardian however my CPU temp idles at 23 right now, and loads w/ P95 in the 31-33 range.
The DS-3, Big Typhoon and Antec P180 compliment each other well. The cpu is right next to both vents on my case, the BTHSF is literally tucked a quarter inch away from both fans which are running at high speed, along with a 120mm fan on top of the HSF also at high speed. In colder weather Smartguardian actually shows temps in the high teens at idle. I also think the mounting went well
Kougar, thanks for taking the time to respond. I have two other pieces of info: I'm using the OCZ gold ram that only requires 1.8V to run (and it has run fine on the board since I flashed to F4c) and also this board seems to run fine with this memory and a Celeron D 2.53GHz cpu (completely stable in superpi and memtest86 as well as general gaming). If I swap for the Celie it boots up and everything runs stable. With the e6400 it makes this funky screetching sound when it boots, seems to run fine, but will eventually fail to boot back up after a shutdown (whether it froze up or I rebooted for some reason). I'm gonna RMA the board for another from eWiz and see if that helps. Otherwise I am going to have to see if Intel will replace the e6400 (yikes) because that will be the last piece that won't have been replaced at that point. The board will go back Monday if you guys can't recommend something else to try. Thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kougar
Well then I think yer the first person in these forums to use "1.8v" RAM... ;) Some people have said that when the DIMM Overvoltage is left to stock the board will auto adjust the vDimm, so I would suggest you set the DIMM overvoltage to "+0.1v" yourself and try it one more time at stock.
My problem is that I can't even get into the BIOS once it locks up with the e6400 installed. I just get the monitor saying "no signal" and turning itself off after a few seconds. Same problem with different video cards and different sticks of RAM. The only way to get anything out of it again at that point is to reinstall the CeleronD cpu and then it boots up fine with whatever RAM is installed (Kingston, PNY, OCZ, single or double sticks, in whichever slots). But once the Conroe is put back in, I get the strange screech when it boots up and eventually (within a few reboots) it quits working again and won't boot at all until the Celeron is put in again. Just a weird problem, I have not seen anything like this before in nearly 10 years of building systems.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kougar
I think I'm going to just RMA the board and see if I have better luck with a different one in a week or so.
Thanks for the help!
EDIT: By the way, I chose the OCZ ram I did exactly because of the issues I'd heard of with the "1.8V" problem. It still didn't work--the system wouldn't boot with that RAM at all (even with the Celeron installed) and I was forced to use the Kingston RAM then flash the BIOS to F4c. Since the flash the OCZ works great with or without voltage boost on either cpu and is completely memtest86 stable.
Is the E6300+DS3+Team value (512x2) 1gb can get 3Ghz?:confused:
Is there a good post somewhere on what BIOS settings to use for the DS3 / Conroe to overclock? I am not doing very well so far and wonder if it is because I am trying to push my Corsair RAM too fast. I've seen bits and pieces - just looking for a complete walkthrough on what I should be doing with these components. The best FSB I've been able to get is ~330, and the CPU is still in the high 2XXX range. Tells me I'm doing something wrong. Any help would be appreciated - and I'll keep searching and reading through posts.
There is a new Jmicron RAID driver on Windows update
and how do I disable NCQ with the Gigabyte RAID?
Anyone know.
Guys, maybe this helps for a better overclock http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=111400
a little tutorial how to boot up with ram spd settings, take a screenshot of the settings in win with memtest, reboot, take the ram to tight timings in bios and then boot and change the ram settings to the screenshot with the tight timings. Helped many to go from 400 fsb to 450 :)
I am running the OCZ 6400 EL Plat on this board, and it wasn't passing memtest at stock settings. I was also getting BSODs while gaming. Just for the hell of it, I tried setting the vdimm down to 2.0v (from 2.1v), and I was able to game for about 3 hours with no crashes. I will run memtest today when I get home. Will undervolting my RAM damage it? If not, can I assume that this will be stable for OCing, or should I just RMA it now and get it over with?
*Kougar's earlier post on page 15*
486x7=3.5ghz
MCH=Stock
FSB=Stock
RAM=+0.2 (for 2v)
PCIe=AUTO (No PCIe GPU card here)
vCore=1.356v
F4e DS3 BIOS
Booting off a SATA drive, CPU cooler is currently active cooling the MCH heatsink and I stuck a 40mm fan on the ICH8 heatsink. I wouldn't have a clue about a "S3" board...
Wolfman, what are your CPU temps like? I can OC to the moon, but it doesn't matter at what point if the CPU reads 58c or higher as then it'll instantly error in Prime95. I wasn't using CoreTemp at the time so I can't say what those were at, however right now for an hour of Dual Prime95ing CoreTemp reads 58-60c. I expect the Scythe Ninja to knock 8-10c off of that, and I'll OC futher...
*End Post*
Kougar,
Do you pass memtest and dual primes95 with those specs? You just must be a lucky, lucky man. My temps right now when I run dual prime are about 53C. A bit hot I know but there's nothing I can do I guess. (using a Zalman 9500) and my room is pretty much around 77 F. If i even try to use a x7 mult and boot at 450 FBS I can't boot at all. I can certainly OC past 3.2Ghz (400x8) but its not stable. I fail memtest and dual primes. Yeah this RAM doesn't like extra volts. I don't know what more I can do. I've disabled all advanced BIOS, I've got, I've tried adding voltage of ALL of the different settings (VCORE, FSB, GMch, etc) one by one to see if any of them made it stable at 3.2Ghz and they don't. And like I said I can't begin to work with a x7 mult. So I'm all out of ideas. I mean, yes, I can pass a single instance of prime, but thats not good enough for me. :-)
I'll try your settings just for fun maybe tonight and see what happens. I'm sure it won't be good. Who knows though...maybe 400X8 is just a bad freq. for this mobo...I've never tried going over. Maybe if I do I'll get some sort of a sweet spot?
Although my overclocking experience with this board is no where near as painful as some other i am still never the less getting annoyed with the eratic behavior of this board.:confused:
Let me start my saying my E6300 week26 max OC so far is 3.15Ghz (450FSB) F4 Bios, it will boot to windows and run all 3dmarks and super PI tests happily at stock volts but to get it stable in Orthos i need to up the volts to 1.375 (not bad at all) from hear on big brick wall i've tested RAM (lowered FSB and raised the RAM Multi's can get another 150Mhz out of it yet, Checked the CPU raised FSB 460 and lowered Multi, changed graphics card and tried all manner of voltage options) Any one out there got any other ideas or do i need to wait for better bios or wait for a better Mobo.
Next is the eratic behavior in the past to achieve 450FSB i had to add .1V to the PCI-E, FSB and G-MCH today all of those however are on stock but nothing has changed I have also noticed that after a failed OC i will not be able to boot at FSB 450 but instead will have to lower to 430 wait till i get to the post screen again anter bios and up the fsb to 450 and it will boot fine, but only after a failed OC.
Any input guys would be appreciated
What's your pci freq set at? I was reading a post from coolaler on 6400 overclocking, he mentioned NOT leaving it set auto. I've hit 400x8 with it on auto, and will be trying to set it at 100/105/110 etc. when I get home.
I've tried PCi - E frequency of AUTO, 101 and 105 so far.
try 110 - it;s stock pcie speed
Tried it didn't work, then my system went well screwy and have had to reapply +.1V to PCI-E,FSB and G-MCh
I got my DS3 today, so I ask should I flash at beginning the bios to the F4 with bootable-USB, before I install any OS?
I thought the default clock for PCIe was 100Mhz (4x33.3)?Quote:
Originally Posted by CrazyJohn
Now for my own DS3 overclocking problems... I can't get this rig completely stable at 400/3200 and I'm not sure what the problem is. I've tried everything in the FAQ but whenever I run large FFTs in Orthos Beta my system reboots within 1 hour. No Orthos error, no BSOD, it just reboots. I suspect that something is overheating but is it my ram, NB, SB, CPU or PSU? I'm using an Antec SP500W with dual 18A 12V rails but I've modded the PSU fans to run at 7V because the stock thermal fan control had the PSU running too hot for my liking and the fans were too loud at 12V. Now I'm wondering if 7V isn't enough and I should mod them to 9V, use resistors, pots or an external PWM controller?
I've tried 1.325-1.5Vcore, default to +.2V on MCH and FSB, +.1V PCIe, +.2 to .4Vdimm but it still reboots on large FFTs. CPU temp has never exceeded 53C per bios reading software or 60C per Core Temp Beta. System temp has never exceeded 40C and I have a 50mm fan installed on the NB HS. I also removed the stock TIM from both the NB and SB HSs and applied AS Ceramique before I even installed the mobo in the case.
The ram passes all memory tests at up to DDR830 @4-4-4-12 with 2.1V (except large FFTs). I can run small FFTs or Gromacs forever but large FFTs are giving me fits. I suspect that I might need better chipset cooling but I'd like to hear some opinions from others before wasting time and money chasing this problem down. TIA.
PS; System specs are in my sig.
I installed Windows on F1. I wouldn't worry about it unless you need to install to RAID and have an IDE drive hooked up at the same time, while on a Pre-F4 BIOS.Quote:
Originally Posted by ClockCatcher
I have my cpu voltage set at auto and when I look at it at easytune it says 1.6v!!! If I lower it my system gets a blue screen and if I lower it manually in the bios it doesn't boot. Can anyone help please? bad cpu? bad DS3?
I cant even overclock 1 mhz and tried all the suggestions such as disabling usb legacy. I have the newest beta bios f4E.
Try the F4 final bios.
Fred, I have the similar problem...400x8 is a nogo for me. I do the FFT test for my cpu at it and no matter what I change and what voltages I change, it is always unstable, and pretty much instantly. I can find no other reason besides maybe chipset heat...I tried to see if I could get a fan on it, but my Zalmann 9500 is so huge it's gonna be tough. In a couple months I'm going to go water cooling on everything (CPU, VGA, NB) and see if that helps. Its my only hope I guess, that or a new BIOS. But yeah...it has to be heat or something because voltages make no diff. for meQuote:
Originally Posted by Fred_Pohl
Okay, here's a quick snapshot of my 24/7 folding@home 476FSB @ 3.33ghz BIOS config. It's been running just fine for over a week at these settings, temps are currently hitting 31c idle and 42-44c load with dual F@H clients running, specs are in my sig. CoreTemp reports both cores @ 57-61c
965P-DS3 F4e BIOS:
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Crankybugga - I did try F4 final bios and I still have the same problem! Anyone else have any suggestions?
I have my cpu voltage set at auto and when I look at it at easytune it says 1.6v!!! If I lower it my system gets a blue screen and if I lower it manually in the bios it doesn't boot. Can anyone help please? bad cpu? bad DS3?
I cant even overclock 1 mhz and tried all the suggestions such as disabling usb legacy.
hate to ask but I saw the answer before and I can't find it now. I can't get easytune 5 to work with my latest install - I'm running f4e bios with a ds3/e6300 . Program just starts and dies (without showing anything). Any help would be appreciated
well so far this is the max I`m getting out of the e6600 retail and ds3 .
http://www.xs4all.nl/~bruuuuut/bla.PNG
9 x 410 bootable / stable with everything / benchable till 9 x 930 with setfsb. The hole rig is real stable with gaming / encoding mp3 and browsing @ the same time @ 9 x 420 mhz with 1.6 V Vcore, and +0.3 Vmch,, +0.4 V Vdim. Cooled with ninja, temp stressed is 50 c. I used memset and it helped. The p965 is very buggy with latency`s so you have to find out what the best latency`s are and apply them.
All on air :p: and silent , but me want to do 9 x 500 so, I think I`m gonna try the asus p5b.
I have the S3 and i cant seem to get passed the 325 barier, i have followed all that is said my bios MIT settings are:
7x
enabled
325
auto
Disabled
2.00
650
Manual
5
5
5
15
auto
auto
autothis
0
auto
fast
+0.2V
normal
normal
normal
1.4125
auto
and also why do i have to set the volts so high when you guys dont? because this is the only way i have seen it get stable is setting it at these volts, im running at F3 bios, and i have a E6300 and i have this memory. someone please help me, im stuck and i dont know what to do.
gooface maybe because your running the S3 instead of the ds3
Well this must be a typo!Quote:
Originally Posted by Pjoeloe
Nice overclock BTW! I'm not really sure that 1.6V is really healty for 65nm or air :nono:
Yup, nice overclock indeed. I am realy proud of it, costs me like 100 hours of reading and messing with the settings hehe. Well, I`ve seen a time ago somebody doing 2 V with Ice, and I saw today a new review of the dq6 : http://www.firingsquad.com/media/hir.../images/20.jpg . , 2.375 max Vcore :cool: . I think the 1.35 V is for stock cooling, retail conroe wants voltages. My temps are not warmer than 50 degrees so, that`s great. Ahh, and that was not a typo :p:
well this is my dad's PC, im just seeing how far i can push it, because i was thinking of getting a conroe of my own, i have a opteron 148 OCed to a 2.86ghz, and its on a DFI Lanparty NF4ultra-D, and i have a 7950Gx2 videocard and i wanted to get a better system so i can OC more and get rid of that bottleneck on my CPU and i wondered what to get if i get conroe so i was testing out my dads setup and so far im no really getting what i thought i would get, do you think i should get the DS3 if i get one, and what CPU should i get the 6300 or 6400? what has better results? and what RAM would you recomend? i was looking at the patriot stuff for 667 and 675 for the 2x1gb stuff, would that all work good together? and what do you think i can do to OC futher on my dads stuff?Quote:
Originally Posted by FinanceFan
Could you explain a little more clearly please. I really didn't understand that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pjoeloe
I have a DS3 (F4 bios) with the same RAM and exactly the same problem. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by gooface