ASUS P5B-Deluxe; Problems & Fixes

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10-12-2006, 01:36 PM
OldGuy

Linkage to 975X/G with SLI...Infinity with SLI and Drivers...
10-13-2006, 01:10 AM
IluvIntel

Can finally boot @ 1:1 & 449mhz FSB with tight DDR2 timings to run benchies. :D using 711 bios
I need better DDR2 to get SuperPi dual 32mb times down. Should be coming next week or thereabouts. Today was hot in OZ, ambients of 28C & no H20 cooling for me. :down:
Its a pity the NBv don't go higher than 1.65v on this Asus board. :(

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l2...-3-6-3defa.jpg

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l2...-8-3dual32.jpg
10-13-2006, 01:27 AM
TheGoat Eater

Quote:

Originally Posted by OPPAINTER

So, the P5WDH DLX has 975 chipset, I have one of those here also.
Should I use that board to run SLI instead?

OPP

Yes use that for SLI for its 8X by 8X- the P5B Deluxe I think is only 16x by 4x- runs off of the southbridge instead of the northbridge (I THINK? I should know as I am running SLI on the P5B Deluxe! LOL! I need to ask Coolaler and you should to!)

Please feel free to backhand me and set me straight guys (and gals):slapass:
10-13-2006, 04:53 AM
-n7-

Seriously, how did Asus manage to :banana::banana::banana::banana: up stability so badly with all the newer bioses? :mad:

I had everything Orthos Blend stable for 6 hrs.+ with bios 0507, & with every bios since, including current 0711, i cannot get it even close to stable for more than a couple hours @ the same settings.
Increased vcore, vFSB, vdimm, & it's still not stable as it was with less vcore, vFSB, & vdimm like with 0507 :nono:

Of course, i don't really want to go back to the older ones with double restarts either.
10-13-2006, 05:27 AM
Decipher

Graphics performance issue

Ok I've been playing with my system a bit ... current setup is:

P5B-Deluxe bios rev 0711
Conroe 6300
G.skill PC 5400 mem, rated 5-5-5-15, running at rated CL, 1:1
435 FSB currently (ie 3.05 Ghz)
Stock cooling.

On to my issue. I've been through a multitude of different FSB clocks, and a lot of 'stable' ones. I did an initial run of 3dmark 2006 before OCing anything, and my results after OC to certain FSB speeds are very poor for graphics performance even though CPU speed goes up.

I'll demonstrate:
FSB: 333
Total: 4043
SM2: 1617
HDR: 1522
CPU: 1955

FSB: 350
Total: 3273
SM2:1105
HDR: 1357
CPU: 2045

FSB: 375
Total: 4119
SM2: 1619
HDR: 1532
CPU: 2221

Before you say this is due to choosing clocks in the 300's, the same is the case 400+, where 400, 415, 420, 425, 433, 440 are all "low graphics scores", but 417 and 435 are unaffected in graphics performance.

You can tell instantly as the FPS is about 20-30% lower in the tests at the 'wrong' FSB clocks.

So why 433 is bad, and 435 is good and then 440 is bad .. is beyond me frankly ..

Anyone have ideas? I've read though the lengthy article on strap speeds and timings, but that doesn't seem relevant with these particular numbers, and only graphics being affected.

Anything weird happening with PCIE lock maybe?

Just to make it even more weird... the clocks that work for me, are not the same that work for a friend with a very similar setup (same bios, chip and board, diff mem)

(Btw, the G.skill rocks... really stable and goes way way over rated speed)
10-13-2006, 05:28 AM
sluzbenik

Probably whatever they did to the strap changes to make it stop double booting is the culprit...probably had to back off on something somewhere to make it possible to do the strap changes without a double reset.
10-13-2006, 05:37 AM
ssabripo

Decipher, read this thread and you will see your answer a few pages back.

First, open CPUZ and see what your PCIe readings are....they should be x16 x16.... if they show x1 x16 (which I'm pretty sure they do), then you need to do the following:

raise your NB voltage, and drop your PCI frequency in BIOS from 100 (or whatever you have it) to 96, and try again
10-13-2006, 05:52 AM
Merc1212

Quote:

Originally Posted by Decipher

Ok I've been playing with my system a bit ... current setup is:

P5B-Deluxe bios rev 0711
Conroe 6300
G.skill PC 5400 mem, rated 5-5-5-15, running at rated CL, 1:1
435 FSB currently (ie 3.05 Ghz)
Stock cooling.

On to my issue. I've been through a multitude of different FSB clocks, and a lot of 'stable' ones. I did an initial run of 3dmark 2006 before OCing anything, and my results after OC to certain FSB speeds are very poor for graphics performance even though CPU speed goes up.

I'll demonstrate:
FSB: 333
Total: 4043
SM2: 1617
HDR: 1522
CPU: 1955

FSB: 350
Total: 3273
SM2:1105
HDR: 1357
CPU: 2045

FSB: 375
Total: 4119
SM2: 1619
HDR: 1532
CPU: 2221

Before you say this is due to choosing clocks in the 300's, the same is the case 400+, where 400, 415, 420, 425, 433, 440 are all "low graphics scores", but 417 and 435 are unaffected in graphics performance.

You can tell instantly as the FPS is about 20-30% lower in the tests at the 'wrong' FSB clocks.

So why 433 is bad, and 435 is good and then 440 is bad .. is beyond me frankly ..

Anyone have ideas? I've read though the lengthy article on strap speeds and timings, but that doesn't seem relevant with these particular number, and only graphics being affected.

Anything weird happening with PCIE lock maybe?

Just to make it even more weird... the clocks that work for me, are not the same that work for a friend with a very similar setup (same bios, chip and board, diff mem)

(Btw, the G.skill rocks... really stable and goes way way over rated speed)

The scores don't seem low enough to be caused by your PCIE slot booting as 1x instead of 16x, but you should check anyway (one of the CPUZ tabs can tell you) since this is the exact behaviour I was getting - any overclock brought down graphics scores tremendously (cut AM3 score in half)

edit:: looks like you beat me to it ssabripo
10-13-2006, 06:12 AM
rob725

I just put a machine p5bdlx/6600 together last night and 16x vs 1x made a large difference.

Scored 5500 in 3dmark06 at stock everything.

Oc'd to 3.6 (400x9) and about 20% on the graphics card (1900 256).

Score dropped to 4600.

I'll try the fixes above; thanks.
10-13-2006, 06:57 AM
OldGuy

Quote:

Originally Posted by rob725

I just put a machine p5bdlx/6600 together last night and 16x vs 1x made a large difference.

Scored 5500 in 3dmark06 at stock everything.

Oc'd to 3.6 (400x9) and about 20% on the graphics card (1900 256).

Score dropped to 4600.

I'll try the fixes above; thanks.

I had to go 110mhz on the PCI-e...
10-13-2006, 07:58 AM
Sparx

Where can I get the latest Intel chipset drivers for my p5b deluxe?
tia
sparx
10-13-2006, 08:05 AM
Pyr0

hmmm... Intel drivers... the Nvidia website maybe? :p: j/k

Intel® Chipset Software Installation Utility
http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scri...4&submit=Go%21
10-13-2006, 08:10 AM
Sparx

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyr0

hmmm... Intel drivers... the Nvidia website maybe? :p: j/k

Intel® Chipset Software Installation Utility
http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scri...4&submit=Go%21

Thanks, nvidia... huh :nono:

Hey are the intel drivers the same for 975 and 965?
sparx
10-13-2006, 08:15 AM
Pyr0

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sparx

Hey are the intel drivers the same for 975 and 965?
sparx

the package is the same, there are drivers included for number of different chipsets etc.
10-13-2006, 09:52 AM
Sparx

Thanks Pyro.
10-13-2006, 10:23 AM
hotchoc

www.almico.com/speedfan.php

This should come as great news to many P5B mobo users

SPREAD THE WORD GUYS
10-13-2006, 10:44 AM
vintage_guitar

Quote:

Originally Posted by hotchoc

www.almico.com/speedfan.php

This should come as great news to many P5B mobo users

SPREAD THE WORD GUYS

thanks,the aux is way off @ 112C ROFL but oh well
10-13-2006, 11:07 AM
hotchoc

Wtf is aux neway ??

Apparently speedfan results are quite similar to my asus probe

I can only use Speed04 to control my fans and when i lowered it, 3x of my scythe fans and my gfx fan slwos down AT THE SAME TIME !!!

Can't seem to control my cpu fan though

ANy ideaS?
10-13-2006, 02:30 PM
JoeBar

Quote:

Originally Posted by OPPAINTER

So, the P5WDH DLX has 975 chipset, I have one of those here also.
Should I use that board to run SLI instead?

OPP

In my opinion, without a doubt... ;)
10-13-2006, 02:31 PM
Revv23

Quote:

Originally Posted by OPPAINTER

So, the P5WDH DLX has 975 chipset, I have one of those here also.
Should I use that board to run SLI instead?

OPP

Hey OPP

Yes, use the 975 chipset. The 965 has very poor SLi performance.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=112730&page=1

:toast:
10-13-2006, 02:33 PM
Revv23

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssabripo

Decipher, read this thread and you will see your answer a few pages back.

First, open CPUZ and see what your PCIe readings are....they should be x16 x16.... if they show x1 x16 (which I'm pretty sure they do), then you need to do the following:

raise your NB voltage, and drop your PCI frequency in BIOS from 100 (or whatever you have it) to 96, and try again

I have found a better solution to this issue.

The voltage and the pci-e frequency didnt do it for me.

What i do whenever my board gets stuck on 1x is this:

1. Change memory divider (make sure its something your ram can run)
2. Watch for the double restart (this is changing the strap, in my case also resetting the PCI-E)
3. Change divider back.

:) Good luck!
10-13-2006, 02:40 PM
OldGuy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Revv23

I have found a better solution to this issue.

The voltage and the pci-e frequency didnt do it for me.

What i do whenever my board gets stuck on 1x is this:

1. Change memory divider (make sure its something your ram can run)
2. Watch for the double restart (this is changing the strap, in my case also resetting the PCI-E)
3. Change divider back.

:) Good luck!

I tried that and it didn't work...looks like there are several ways and the only way on my board was 110 pci-e...weird little beasty board.
10-13-2006, 02:40 PM
JoeBar

There's also another solution. Try raising your SB voltage to 1.7v. Posted here
That didn't worked for me however. The solution that worked is raising pci-e freq to 102mhz.

Seems that there isn't a general solution to this rather than play and pray... :p:
10-13-2006, 02:45 PM
Revv23

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeBar

There's also another solution. Try raising your SB voltage to 1.7v. Posted here
That didn't worked for me however. The solution that worked is raising pci-e freq to 102mhz.

Seems that there isn't a general solution to this rather than play and pray... :p:

guess so, changing pci-e freq didnt help me lol...

Looks like its time for new bios.
10-13-2006, 02:50 PM
JoeBar

Or a new mobo for me... :p:

I'm considering going SLI and having my eyes on P5W64 WS. ;)

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