The OFFICIAL MSI K8N Neo2-939 tips and tricks guide thread

brechtvm.Too bad your still having probs,but i still think u have cables or power configured incorrect.You know that ide1 is furthest away from cpu,and u have to set ur jumpers on hd cd-master-slave.HD goes to IDE1 it's black not blue .I also think when u reset cmos u have to turn off computer.Then turn power supply back on.Not computer just power to motherboad.No fans spinning here ur not trying to post,just not unplugged.then reset ur cmos.If u don't use IDE theres a post in here bout where sata goes .Humor me please and check these easy things.Also try just 1 stick mem in dimm one closest to cpu.My board was refurb.No cables-No driver-no d bracket just-board.I think they forget to reset jumper when they test or repair them.

the problem can't be the ram ..
i tested
*twinmoss ram (512mb)
*corsair xms ram (512mb)
*MDT ram (value) (512mb)
*GEIL ram (256mb)

and always the same black screen..
when i removed a memory stick, i heard a funky beep ;)

i think like this :

because i hear a beep code, the bios checksum can't be corrupt..

so the problem should be something else..

right ?

Try another powersupply
90% of all problems whith getting the neo 2 started is becuse of the powersupply
xxbiker

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Originally Posted by xxbiker

Try another powersupply
90% of all problems whith getting the neo 2 started is becuse of the powersupply
xxbiker

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I tried my zalman 400W APS
and a no name 420W power supply

Try a new bios chip or hotflash the old one. :stick:

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Originally Posted by sideeffect

Try a new bios chip or hotflash the old one. :stick:

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i guess i will RMA the motherboard,
that will be the easiest way ;)
sunday, i have a A8V-Deluxe..
temporary motherboard with a Stable HTT of 300mhz ;)

Are there any problems with the nVidia 5.11 drivers for the neo2 ?

My DFI nf3 crashs windows when I play with lan settings

Just install the NF4 6.66 drivers (or latest ones) with the GART driver from the beta NF3 6.37's from www.guru3d.com

Happy new Year to all and long live neo2 platinium..LOL
The board is discontinued but here more and more ppl with this board apear very nice...I made a BIG change in my Rig and bought a new Connect3d x850pro VIVO and i hoped i can unlock it to a full PE but is not and replaced the Gecube 9550XT extreme edition (that crashes like hell) ...grrr
Now all work very good

hey everyone, bump to keep this great thread alive :) so i now have a swiftech apex extreme kit with a mcw55 block on my 6800gt. even with load temps in the low to mid 30's, i still cant get this damn memory controller to work at much over 240mhz :confused: currently using 1.8 mod with 1t fix by NFM and am wondering what currently is the best bios to use with a san diego 3700+ and some g.skill pc4400 tccd? even if i can manage to get 260mhz out of this 275mhz ram, it will be better than the 200mhz land im in now :( thanks a lot for the suggestions (btw cpu seems prime stable up to 2.81ghz)

@ pepelepe: try bios 1.8. all other bioses won't boot over 270-280~, but with any 1.8 bios i can boot all the way to 340htt 100% stable :toast:

@ arnemetis: Sounds like the mobo limit or CPU :/. On the 1.8 1T fix with my Opty i can get my memory to 270mhz 1:1 no problems. I can't say thats the limit though, as my ram is only rated for 250, heh. Try booting to windows @ 240, and tweaking some timings in A64 tweaker. Then see if you can get it up to speed with clockgen.
This may be helpful to some extent:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=57317

For the question about 4 memory sticks on the Neo2, it doesn't depend as much on the mobo, as it does on the CPU's memory controller. I managed to run 4 sticks of TCCD 512MB on my Venice @ 200mhz 2-3-2-10 2T, yet my old Winny wouldn't run them at ANY timings at all.

As for the best drivers, then for me the award goes to this neat package:
http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1271

Completely stable overall, and no crashes/BSODs, pretty fast too :)

seems like cpu limit :( maybe ill try to pick up an pty at some point, i knew this cpu's mem controller was bunk, was really hoping a new bios had been released based on the new version that helped it out. my old 3200+ cbbid winchester could do 281mhz on the ram. downside to having onchip memory controller. maybe ill try to save up for a 165 :slobber:

Well, I have one of these boards, got it sometime last year. About to use it now.

I'm a bit new to overclocking, really.

Going to stick a AMD Athlon X2 4200+ in it and attempt an overclock.

My case's cooling is all air cooling. 1 Panaflo 120mm quiet high airflow fan in the front for in-take, 1 Panaflo 120mm quiet high airflow fan in the back for exhaust, and 1 Panaflo 92mm quiet high airflow fan on the side for intake as well.

The processor is going to have an XP-90C heatsink on it, AS5 compound use inbetween. On top of the XP-90C is going to be another Panaflo 92mm quiet high airflow fan for cooling as well.

What I wondered, really, is if anyone has any experience overclocking a 4200+? What were some of the highest speeds you achieved?

Also, what do the 5 numbers mean in some of these peoples' results? Like for example 2-3-2-10-2T ?

Any tips about overclocking on this motherboard are appreciated as well.

So far I've nabbed down:

- Use SATA 3 and 4 when connecting hard drives.
- Sometimes, you may achieve better results using a lower multiplier but higher FSB.
- Sometimes, you may achieve better results by running memory at 200mhz as opposed to 400mhz. (I have DDR400 RAM)
- Sometimes, increasing CPU voltage can help.
- Disable Cool 'n Quiet
- Disable Fast Writes
- Use memory slots 1 & 2, the ones closest to the CPU.
- Disable aggressive timings.

Well, any input is appreciated!

Edit: Another thing I'd like to add is, I have Crucial DDR400 RAM as well. 2 single side PC3200 sticks. (512MB, DDR, 400, CL3 CT6464Z40B.8TC MT8VDDT6464AG-40C1 PC3200U-30331-A1) If there is a database I can look up that has optimal timings or what these RAM can time at when tweaked, that'd be cool too.

I have a problem with hard drive performance on this computer. My new computer takes AGES to load games such as cs:source and bf2. My old computer done it in literally half the time. My new rig is as follows:

Amd Athlon64 3200+ (OC'd to 2400Mhz)
Akasa Evo-33 Cooler
MSI K8N Neo2 (1.B Bios)
1Gb Corsair XMS3200C2PT (2-3-2-7) (OC'd)
Windows XP Pro SP2
Galaxy Geforce 6800GT OC
160GB Maxtor DiamondMax9 SATA (System is on here in SATA port 3)
160Gb Maxtor IDE (used for storing mp3s etc)
Xaser-III Tower

My old computer used the same tower, same hard-drives (although obviously reformatted before installing for the new system), same video card. The differences were it had a pentium 4 2.6c with 1gb of ram (2x256 OCZ PC4000 gold & 2x256 Geil PC4400 Ultra). That PC was overclocked to about 3200Mhz.

As I say, my old system would load these games in literally half the time. Hard drive performance has been bad ever since I got the new motherboard, ram and processor. It was bad as soon as the system was put together and is bad now (even after defrags). I am currently using the nforce3 5.11 chipset drivers.

Does anyone have a clue why the system drive would be running slowly?

Hi guys

Gone to the 'Asus' side with my main rig but set up my MSI K8N neo2 for my son - and having a bit off a problem getting it to boot - and it was working fine last time it was used?

it boots then I get-
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keyboard error or no keyboard present
keyboard is locked out - unlock the key
CMOS checksum error -defaults loaded
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and there it hangs
cleared CMOS - same
pressed DEl to enter Bios - no go!
changed CPU same

I havent come across this one B4 any thoughts

TIA

Has anybody used the Arctic Cooling 64 Pro with this board?

@ TMM : Thank you for the idea. Presently, I use bios 1.36 by NFM which u can set maximum Vcore. Anyway, now I intend to flash my bios to a derivative of version 1.8.
Here
http://www.msi.sploitz.com/
and here
http://www.lejabeach.com/MSIK8N/k8nneo2.html
you may find many versions of official, beta and modded bios. Would you recommend a particular version of bios 1.8 (the official version for example) or all of 'em do the same?

Thanks again in advance.

Well, nobody really answered my questions, but I've figured out the answer myself. Due to my RAM having TCL:3, TCD:3 , TRAS:8, TRP:3, and 2T timing. I've decided Crucial is a horrible RAM to OC with and I'm going Mushkin.

The question I pose for you now is, with my current memory (haven't received the Mushkin's yet), I notice memory voltage can only go up to 2.85V in the BIOS. (Using the latest official 1B BIOS) This might be a problem because the normal operating range of the Mushkins is anywhere between 2.6 and 2.8V, 2.85V as the max in the BIOS provides me with POOR overclocking abilities.

Is there a MSI BIOS that both supports the X2 processors and also lets me set a memory voltage higher than this?

Please, let me know!

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Well, nobody really answered my questions, but I've figured out the answer myself. Due to my RAM having TCL:3, TCD:3 , TRAS:8, TRP:3, and 2T timing. I've decided Crucial is a horrible RAM to OC with and I'm going Mushkin.

The question I pose for you now is, with my current memory (haven't received the Mushkin's yet), I notice memory voltage can only go up to 2.85V in the BIOS. (Using the latest official 1B BIOS) This might be a problem because the normal operating range of the Mushkins is anywhere between 2.6 and 2.8V, 2.85V as the max in the BIOS provides me with POOR overclocking abilities.

Is there a MSI BIOS that both supports the X2 processors and also lets me set a memory voltage higher than this?

Please, let me know!

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NO 2.85 is max voltage :(

Use a OCZ DDR Booster ;)

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Originally Posted by wrewing73

Has anybody used the Arctic Cooling 64 Pro with this board?

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I have 64 Ultra TCL model...Is the best cooler i ever used and it silence my CPU heat very very well..I even overclocked my CPU from 1.8Ghz to 2.4Ghz only on air and i will push even further...I am very very happy with it and it's ONLY 15$ ... ATI Silencer here i come...

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Hi guys

Gone to the 'Asus' side with my main rig but set up my MSI K8N neo2 for my son - and having a bit off a problem getting it to boot - and it was working fine last time it was used?

it boots then I get-
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keyboard error or no keyboard present
keyboard is locked out - unlock the key
CMOS checksum error -defaults loaded
Unquote

and there it hangs
cleared CMOS - same
pressed DEl to enter Bios - no go!
changed CPU same

I havent come across this one B4 any thoughts

TIA

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have you tried using a ps2 kb? how about a usb one? clear cmos and remove the battery for 15 minutes or so and double check all your power cables.

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Originally Posted by AeroSquid

have you tried using a ps2 kb? how about a usb one? clear cmos and remove the battery for 15 minutes or so and double check all your power cables.

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Thanks for the reply

yes dung out my old PS2 keyboard same on USB one removed battery (even shorted the battery terminals to discharge the power -NO go

disconnect all cables (even took out the usb/1394 ones and sata ones) Cleared CMOS same - just hangs asking to press F1 or Del to enter bios but pressing the keys does nothing.

Okay, I guess my last question... I also notice CPU voltage can only go up to 1.550 in the BIOS. Although, if you select over VID 10.0% it goes up to about 1.7V. Is this also the maximum voltage you can get out of CPU? Or are there other BIOSes that can go higher?

I'm eyeing the v1.A4 MOD BIOS by Sideeffect that says "known to have no cold boot issue and better CPU voltage". Just wondering if anyone's played with that one and know how high it can go.

I'm thinking that BIOS should probably properly support the X2 CPUs too, right? Well, let me know, thanks!

soda..I have 1.550v + 10% and is 1.64v .. no more in the normal way..U can voltmod the board physically ...

Ah, okay. Hmm, here's another question. I thought the last one was my last, but now I have another. The modded BIOSes, they all seem to remove the dividers above 200mhz, why? No one likes to run their RAM at DDR speeds? If you're a gamer, low frequency RAM isn't really that great.

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Ah, okay. Hmm, here's another question. I thought the last one was my last, but now I have another. The modded BIOSes, they all seem to remove the dividers above 200mhz, why? No one likes to run their RAM at DDR speeds? If you're a gamer, low frequency RAM isn't really that great.

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set it at 200MHz and it will run 1:1

Hi!I have a NEO2 Platinum and i upg to 1b from sideeffect.The problem is that sometimes when i try to enter bios it freezes with black image and a cursor blinking at right corner top.If i reset still nothing.To get it work i have to turn of my comp from the psu and than it works...but it works only the first time.if i forget to press del and my system boots then i have to turn off psu again and so on..sometimes it works ok.

To Zork:

Try clearing your CMOS RAM. Sounds like a setting in it is unstable.

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set it at 200MHz and it will run 1:1

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Oh, you see, I was under the wrong impression then, I guess. I thought you had to the memory speed in MHZ for you to go 1:1 on a processor.

Like, for example, even though I have DDR400 RAM, I thought like.. if my FSB was 233mhz, I had to set my memory divider speed in the BIOS to 233 as well, for it to be 1:1. So you're telling me, I shouldn't even adjust the memory divider speed at all? Only the timings, if necessary?

I thought that some people adjusted their memory MHZ as well. Reading about how some people clock their DDR400 RAM at 433,466, and 500 speed by adjusting MHZ and timings...

If you, or anyone else can, can you clarify this for me?

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To Zork:

Try clearing your CMOS RAM. Sounds like a setting in it is unstable.



Oh, you see, I was under the wrong impression then, I guess. I thought you had to the memory speed in MHZ for you to go 1:1 on a processor.

Like, for example, even though I have DDR400 RAM, I thought like.. if my FSB was 233mhz, I had to set my memory divider speed in the BIOS to 233 as well, for it to be 1:1. So you're telling me, I shouldn't even adjust the memory divider speed at all? Only the timings, if necessary?

I thought that some people adjusted their memory MHZ as well. Reading about how some people clock their DDR400 RAM at 433,466, and 500 speed by adjusting MHZ and timings...

If you, or anyone else can, can you clarify this for me?

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havent adjusted them in on the ne2 for some time but If i remmember correct set the mem to 200 and then adjust the CPU FSB frequency (to say 250 will give u 250MHz FSB 1:1)

setting the mem to less than 200 u will be on a divider

Haha, Zeus, you're the man.

Thanks. I just tried this... I never knew. Works exactly as you say. 200mhz is 1:1 =)

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To Zork:

Try clearing your CMOS RAM. Sounds like a setting in it is unstable.

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Meaning what?Reset the CMOS...I tried that with no results

Does anyone have an answer to my previous post?

http://xtremesystems.org/forums/show...postcount=3853

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Does anyone have an answer to my previous post?

http://xtremesystems.org/forums/show...postcount=3853

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I don't have an answer to your post, but I'm not experiencing the problems you are with hard drive speed. Drives are running the same speed as they did on my old motherboard.. so.. =\

After playing around with my overclocking ability of the AMD Athlon X2 4200+ on this motherboard, I'm finding the maximum amount I can seem to overclock it is 245 * 11. Which is about 2695mhz. That's a pretty OK improvement over 2200mhz, which is what it normally runs at. I think that it could do more, though, but you can't put any more voltage into it from the BIOS. (I'm already at 1.550+10.0%) Full load for me runs @ about 42-45C and I've tried lowering the multiplier to 10x, higher FSB, and lower HT Freq, but all I get is a black screen.

You might be saying, well, try to adjust the RAM divider, and I have... still black screen.

I highly doubt the RAM is at fault after adjusting the divider, but I am getting some new RAM on Monday which is alot better for overclocking. (Not because of this problem, I've already had it on order..) So, we shall see.

Still, 2695mhz is a pretty good jump from 2200mhz on a dual core X2. I should be happy and I am. =)

Need some help with bumping up my CPU speed. I haven't had much luck in finding info by doing searches.:confused: I don't want to max this out. Just give it alittle safe boost.

My setup
MSI K8N NEO2 Platinum
AMD Athlon 64 3700+ Processor (San Diego)
2 X 512MB of Corsair CMX512-3200C2PRO (2-3-3-6 1T)
Antec SmartPower 500W
2 X 160GB Maxtor HD on a PCI RAID_0

Thanks:toast:
Shawn

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Originally Posted by ShawnTRD

Need some help with bumping up my CPU speed. I haven't had much luck in finding info by doing searches.:confused: I don't want to max this out. Just give it alittle safe boost.

My setup
MSI K8N NEO2 Platinum
AMD Athlon 64 3700+ Processor (San Diego)
2 X 512MB of Corsair CMX512-3200C2PRO (2-3-3-6 1T)
Antec SmartPower 500W
2 X 160GB Maxtor HD on a PCI RAID_0

Thanks:toast:
Shawn

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read this
and follow the links - its a great thread and the first post covers it all ;)

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Originally Posted by ShawnTRD

Need some help with bumping up my CPU speed. I haven't had much luck in finding info by doing searches.:confused: I don't want to max this out. Just give it alittle safe boost.

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Here's also a good thread on how to overclock.

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=795444

I found it very informative.

Anyone else tryed sinking the mosfets for the vcore? I've just got an 80mm fan over mine and i've seen some healthy gains. voltage is up by about 0.03v and seems to be alot more stable (i used to be able to clock high with more voltage, but it was never 100% stable as the voltage was all over the place). I'm going to heatsink them and see if it will be even more stable :toast:

I re-installed (once again my neo2 system)
now WITH d-bracket

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/864...002edit8ix.jpg

system setup :
AMD OPTERON 146+ (E4)
1*512mb Corsair XMS LED (TCCD)
no hdd drive (was just for testing purposes)
no cd drive (was just for testing purposes)
ati radeon 7000 (crappy AGP graka)

pffff:confused:

hiya,

aah brecht, always having trouble with pc's as usual :rolleyes:

Ontopic: Usb 2.0, can't get this going, any one know a solution?
I've got sp1, installed all the drivers for my mobo so..
it keeps on usb 1.1 .

xyus

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Originally Posted by Xyus89

hiya,

aah brecht, always having trouble with pc's as usual :rolleyes:

Ontopic: Usb 2.0, can't get this going, any one know a solution?
I've got sp1, installed all the drivers for my mobo so..
it keeps on usb 1.1 .

xyus

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it's not my fault it won't work..
Asus A8V works fine..but is VIA chipset (brrrr)

btw: your location is belgIUm and nog belgUIM

OT : did you check your bios yet ?
is it enabled ?

Lately I bought 2x512 PC3200 Geil UltraX (TCCD). I know from previous user that these ones can do 300+ Mhz with 2,9V on DFI, but on my NEO2 I can't do anything above 210MHz in dual channel (1T). But when I pull out 1 memory stick (1x512MB Single channel), the other one do 280MHz (1T) with fine timings with 2,85V . I tried 1,36b 1,8 rev3 NFM, some sideefect bioses for TCCD. I also red the guide from 1st page. What can be wrong?

Well, I got some OCZ El Platinum Rev 2 RAM. 2x512MB

I'm able to get pretty high clocks with this, but I can't clock my processor any higher due to the voltage limitation in the BIOS. I find it odd, though, that inside of MSI Core Center, you can pump up the VCore even more than you can in the BIOS. I wonder why they just don't release a BIOS where you can pump up the VCore past 1.70 (1.550+10%) since MSI Core Center can set to 1.85

I don't really want to rely on Windows to finish my overclocking, I'd rather have all my parameters set in the BIOS, so it's kind of an unacceptable solution for me to go higher. Are there any BIOS mods for MSI that go past v1.70 ? (1.550+10%)

Right now, I'm running an AMD Athlon X2 4200+ @ 2550mhz (255x10) with my RAM timings @ 2.5-3-3-7 Very stable and is a decent OC. It'd just be able to go higher if I could set the VCore higher in the BIOS...

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I re-installed (once again my neo2 system)
now WITH d-bracket

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/864...002edit8ix.jpg

system setup :
AMD OPTERON 146+ (E4)
1*512mb Corsair XMS LED (TCCD)
no hdd drive (was just for testing purposes)
no cd drive (was just for testing purposes)
ati radeon 7000 (crappy AGP graka)

pffff:confused:

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no-one who knows a solution ?
otherwise, i'll have to RMA this board (this weekend probably)

I need help.. I have direct die on my msi and a opteron 165 when o put my bh5 memory´s it work´s fine with divisors, when i put the tccd memory don´t work with divisors, make a lote of erros, i use your bios (1c no temps).. :confused:

sorry guys, do you know if msi k8n supports X2?

yes, it does;)

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Originally Posted by Marvin

yes, it does;)

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.. but you have to use a new bios..
(not the stock one :s.. the first bios doesn't even recognise venice cores..:()

Any news on a newer 1.C official BIOS yet chaps?

no one can help me with the best timmings for the tccd memory with a opteron dual core 165 with the bios 1.C Beta 3 No Temp Edition.. when i put the bh5 memory, the computer work fine, when put the tccd make a lot of erros..

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Originally Posted by paulopais

no one can help me with the best timmings for the tccd memory with a opteron dual core 165 with the bios 1.C Beta 3 No Temp Edition.. when i put the bh5 memory, the computer work fine, when put the tccd make a lot of erros..

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does your TCCD pass memtest86 at STD ? - just sent mine back for RMA

anyone here succesfull to run 2x1gb sticks beyond ddr500?
i see in the ranks, almost all were on nf4 boards
tried 1c.tccd SE mod bios, also a no go :(

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Originally Posted by Zeus...

does your TCCD pass memtest86 at STD ? - just sent mine back for RMA

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yeap.. in my dfi expert they do 300 at 2.5-3-3-6

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Originally Posted by e-jump

anyone here succesfull to run 2x1gb sticks beyond ddr500?
i see in the ranks, almost all were on nf4 boards
tried 1c.tccd SE mod bios, also a no go :(

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u should change the video card ..... really..

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u should change the video card ..... really..

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ROFL..
thanx for the advice Losphoron..
i'll save some money for x1600pro card in future :)

but i dont think my 9000p is the limitation here :D

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Originally Posted by Xyus89

hiya,

aah brecht, always having trouble with pc's as usual :rolleyes:

Ontopic: Usb 2.0, can't get this going, any one know a solution?
I've got sp1, installed all the drivers for my mobo so..
it keeps on usb 1.1 .

xyus

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update everything. are you not installing SP2 for some reason?

I have a weird question in regards to video cards...

When I have my Radeon 9800 Pro in the machine with the same exact BIOS settings, RAM included, I can do 255x10 ...

If I plug my X850 XT PE in with everything still set the same, I get no display and it doesn't POST. However, lowering the FSB to 250 will get it to post with the X850 XT PE in.

(Yes, I've changed HT Frequency to 3x to be sure..)

.. any ideas?

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Originally Posted by paulopais

yeap.. in my dfi expert they do 300 at 2.5-3-3-6

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well mine would only do 2 2 2 5 at 200MHz but not 2.5 2 2 5 (which is slower) so the kind OCZ folks r RMAing them for me

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Originally Posted by e-jump

anyone here succesfull to run 2x1gb sticks beyond ddr500?
i see in the ranks, almost all were on nf4 boards
tried 1c.tccd SE mod bios, also a no go :(

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Ballistix Z503's @ 265 1:1 3-3-3-8 2T Rock Solid BF2 for days on end
266 BSOD at random intervals - pretty sure it's this particular mobo's limit as other RAM with dividers will also crash at anything over 265HTT =/

1T is a complete NO GO even below 200 =[

This is the 3rd set of Ballistix - the previous sets went bad as others have reported - gonna try some 'other' RAM asap

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Originally Posted by Xyus89

hiya,

aah brecht, always having trouble with pc's as usual :rolleyes:

Ontopic: Usb 2.0, can't get this going, any one know a solution?
I've got sp1, installed all the drivers for my mobo so..
it keeps on usb 1.1 .

xyus

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I use winxp without sp , and I used the win9x drivers on the mb cdrom, and usb2.0 is working fine on my board :)

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Originally Posted by brechtvm

no-one who knows a solution ?
otherwise, i'll have to RMA this board (this weekend probably)

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i got that when i accidentally plugged my keyboard in the mouse port. i was racking my brain wondering why i wasnt booting, since the only change i had made was putting in my new X800 Pro. I put the keyboard back in the right port and it booted fine.

I feel that i may be missing something while OCing my Neo2. here's my specs, can anyone tell me if this is about right for this setup?

3000+ Venice E3
2x512 g.skill 1GBLE TCCD
X800Pro
Bios 1C (modded for TCCD)

@ 1:1 x4 HTT div
250HTT 1.4 vCORE
2.5-3-3-7

@ 150 mem divider x3 HTT div
270HTT 1.45vCORE
2-2-2-5

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Originally Posted by sodaboy581

I have a weird question in regards to video cards...

When I have my Radeon 9800 Pro in the machine with the same exact BIOS settings, RAM included, I can do 255x10 ...

If I plug my X850 XT PE in with everything still set the same, I get no display and it doesn't POST. However, lowering the FSB to 250 will get it to post with the X850 XT PE in.

(Yes, I've changed HT Frequency to 3x to be sure..)

.. any ideas?

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The x850xtpe uses a lot more power than the 9800pro....you could be seeing a limitation in your powersupply. I'd recommend an OCZ 520 if you can dish up the $, otherwise a highpowered single rail sparkle should do. Stay away from dual rail powersupplies if you overclock on this board, the neo2 platinum benefits from a single rail supply.) The OCZ 520W will hit about 618W before it shuts off, but for that you will be pulling about 700W from the wall. ;) It has a 33A 12v rail so that should cover you for a while. Let me know if this helps at all, or if you already have a good powersupply...

Sideeffect, new 1C0 BIOS, I take it that this is the official 1C BIOS. Can you do your magic on it?

ftp://jerryuser:jerryuser@ftp.msi.com.tw/BIOS/

lets hope tictac comes up with something too
so we can have more veriety..

:D

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Originally Posted by sodaboy581

I have a weird question in regards to video cards...

When I have my Radeon 9800 Pro in the machine with the same exact BIOS settings, RAM included, I can do 255x10 ...

If I plug my X850 XT PE in with everything still set the same, I get no display and it doesn't POST. However, lowering the FSB to 250 will get it to post with the X850 XT PE in.

(Yes, I've changed HT Frequency to 3x to be sure..)

.. any ideas?

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i had that problem too with my old gecube 9550XT and al you need is to increased AGP voltage from 1.5 to 1.55 or 1.60...
Now i have an X850pro from connect3d and is booting ok..At 280 the windows is unstable..my settings are

270x9 = 2433mhz efective from 1800mhz
1.550v+10%
DDR333
Htt3
My PSU is a Powermax 400w (pretty cheap one)
from ATi tray tool i put a profile that OC the vga to 560GPU and 600mhz the memory..good luck

Hi!

Config:
MSI K8N Neo2 Plat.
3000+ venice E6
2x512 TCCC samsung DDR400
leadtek 6600gt agp
etc.

BIOS version 1.CB sideeffect.

My problem is, that if i set the fsb to default, also 200, the memorys will be driven at 166 Mhz. And i can not set to any other. The memory clock index value is 200 in the bios.
If i set the fsb to 220, the rams are running at 180. Mem clock index value is still 200...

What do i need to set, to run them at 220/220 ? Or how do i change the ratio?

Thx.

Thanks for the headsup Draxx.

Ill see whats changed if anything. I doupt Tictac will make a bios as he seems busy with his Abit stuff.

Now theres a 1C3 bios listed, any word on the 1C0 and 1C3??

I.C3 is the beta that has been out for a while. 1.C0 is the final and came out recently. I will make my mod versions tommorow. Murdok has his versions out for the bios and they have some info there about the bios. http://www.msi-forum.de/thread.php?threadid=21960

Its in German but basically it says the bios is pretty much the same nothing new is added. They think perhaps the vcore is more stable though. So we will see.

Thats great Sideeffect, Get it modded!

Can you make sure there are any extra options hidden away?

1.C Final Mod is out at my site. Nothing new really MSI spent a lot of time doing nothing ? :slap:

Well seems vcore is slightly more stable than 1.C3 beta and perhaps that will allow slightly better overclocks. We will see once its been tested.

Excellent, I'll flash it on tomorrow :)

Excellent work sideeffect!

Question for everyone, will the Neo2 Plat. support an Opty? Any know problems?

Thanks.

Opty's work fine.

great bios Sideeffect:)

guys i just got a pair of corsair twinx modules from my brother, just wanna ask if these are good for this mobo?

thanks!

hey whatsup sideeffect glad to u still cranking out excellent bios you really helped alot my ? is as i moved on from this board the same mem i use now does 320 im looking at the msi rd480 which is now like 90$ but if i needed as bios mod are u limited to the neo2

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hey whatsup sideeffect glad to u still cranking out excellent bios you really helped alot my ? is as i moved on from this board the same mem i use now does 320 im looking at the msi rd480 which is now like 90$ but if i needed as bios mod are u limited to the neo2

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Yes if its a award bios I can mod it. I cant test it though :eek:

great bios sideeffect, thanks a lot! are registered mem modules (corsair twinx) compatible with the k8n neo2 platinum?

I'm having problems with my Mobo.

It keeps randomly resetting it's self. Sometimes after post it will reset and sometimes in windows Idling and playing games it will just reset.

No idea why but. I have all lastest drivers and lastest bios

Kingsob test your ram with memtest+.

problem found :

i need to flash my bios to a newer one
but i need a s939 winchester/newcastle/clawhammer cpu to do this..

my question : does anyone know a 'hack' to flash my bios to a newer one, without needing one of the cpu's mentioned above (i have an opteron 146)

SE, your site seems to be down :(

Yes it has a DNS problem will be back up soon. Hopefully :toast:

In the mean time I set up mirrors.

MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum
Based on 1.C FINAL !
MSI Fixes - Fixed have option rom. Should have also fixed IDE Boot card problem. Improved Vcore stability. Improved USB device compatibility.

Standard Edition
- All New Menu Layout
- Enabled 183 divider
- Enabled 150 Divider
- More user friendly defaults

Ballistix Edition
- Max Async = 8
- Read Write Queue bypass = 16
- Bypass max = 7
- Idle Cycle limit = 64
- DQS Skew Mode = slower

TCCD Edition
- Max Async = 8
- Read Write Queue bypass = 16
- Bypass max = 7
- Idle Cycle limit = 256
- DQS Skew Mode = slower
- Drive Strength weak by default

No Temp with TCCD timings

owh btw, new core center juz released
so far, no crashing probs....

ahh, juz wish sideEffects bios can help me boost my rams speed..
but in reality, i got a dud kit :(

does it fix the wrong temperature readings with opty's? because ive been having this problem with all the older bios... believe i tried everything i can do to make sure i have good heatsink contact.. and i still idle at 40c.

Not sure dont have a opty. So far It is more stable for CPU and ram than the 1.C3 beta was. Just a margin better. They have messed around with the voltages a bit. Was having GPU issues and crashing in games until I realised that 1.C hates 1.65 AGP volts. Setting it back to 1.5 volts cured the problem.

Not sure if Ill keep it or go back to 1.C3 yet as I need to test it further. Also working on another bios that im scared to test incase it blows up the house but we will see :stick:

hi sideeffect
maybe you can do something to the last single core bios? was it 1.7 or 1.8..
maybe its a best ones for single core/old winnie/clawhammer users ;)

hi ya. I just signed up to this great forum !

i thik i need a modded BIOS, maybe Need.for.Mhz 180NFM ?

i have a neo plat 2, 3700+ san diego 250x11. and just brought 2 x 1gb gskill pc4000 HZ ram.

problem is i just can't get these suckers stable at HT250. tried a range of settings and it just don't wanna prime 95, or 3dmark 2001 !

did check out your bios's sideeffect, but know your primary site is down, and don't know which BOIS to d/l from the mirrior ! :(
could some one please point me in the right direction .?
thanks ..

1.C0 = 2640mhz stable best bios So far
1.C3 = 2610mhz stable

winchester 0448 SPAW

Thanks SE you are the man. Been waiting for this one. :) 1c official mod.
:)

Remeber guys the neo2 can keep up with nf4. Neo2 = best agp board I have ever owned:toast:

Just flashed to 1.C0 (previously on 1.C3). Have gained 25mhz primeable on the same voltage so far (2800 --> 2825) :)

I want to up to the newest sideffect bios for tccd also need instuctions for doing it.

When will your website be back up sideffect? Msi neo platinum 939 sideffect 1b bios for tccd - AMD 3200 Venice 10 x 250 2500 mhz - 1 gb pc3200 Ocz platinum rev 2 tccd @ 500 ddr - 6600 gt video - Epower 470 watt couger

Ok I've stopped my system restarting by turning off Cool'n'Quiet.

now I'm having Ram problems. I can't seem to get my ram to run T1.

My Ram is OCZ Pc4000 2gig 3,3,2,8

Right now with no overclocking I can get it stable at 2,3,2,8 T2 If I run T1 it will error on Bend test in prime at the 1 hour mark. With out T1 at T2 it wont error. I've tryed looping Memtest and it's stable after 90 loops of Test 8.

Now there use to happen on my DFI nf3 but I could never get memtest stable. So I'm 1 up on that but still prime gives the error. On my DFI prime failed in 1min and Memtest 8 looped failed after 2 loops.

Im running my mem in the top slots 3,4 I was on Bios 1.B0 now im on the standed sideeffect bios I found on I think it was the page before thisone. It's called 1.CFS

Anyone have a fix for this ? My mem is 100% stable in my old AI7 mobo at T1

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Im running my mem in the top slots 3,4 I was on Bios 1.B0 now im on the standed sideeffect bios I found on I think it was the page before thisone. It's called 1.CFS

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tried slot 1&2? [nearest to the cpu]
in my case, slot 1&2 yield better OC than 3&4..

yep, i found slot 1 and 2 more stable.

i don't get blue screens or re starts, BUT i still can't pass prime 95, or 3dmark2001. sideeffect, you have nearly the same rig as me, this is my ram
http://www.gskill.com/f1-4000usu2-2gbhz.htm

and at the bottom is a pic of the ram and A64 tweeker running with the right settings ......
would the 180nfm bios help me ... or should i go for TCCD edition that you've done ?
thing is. i know alittle about CA,RAS etc ... but NO WAY enough to understand a64 tweeker !
could some one please help me, as i want to know weather to RMA my ram or not.

Whitch BIOS is really best fos this mobo? Most stable and higest OC?

THX for answer.

pls link for this BIOS.

ps: I have some old MODD BIOS, but I have problem with my Maxtor HDDs. Now I use latest original BIOS, but I have small OC. THX all.

i like this new 1c, i can play Planetside at 2.85..with the beta 1c i could only play at 2.8 without crashing. opteron 144 ftw:)

Thx Sideeffect for your TCCD bios:)

1.8 or 1.C are the best bios version Neller. 1.C seems really nice so far.

Kingsob when you say no overclocking do you mean 200 mhz on the ram or do you mean default for the ram which is like 250?

If its at 200 mhz this might sound silly but set it to 250 with HTT multi at 4x and cpu multi set to like 8 or so to keep the cpu in spec. Set ram timings to something like cas = 2.5, trp = 3, trcd = 3, tras = 8, trc = 12, trfc = 18. Leave the other ram settings in bios on default or auto and leave 2T for the moment.

See if that boots. Some newer ram especially ram rated at ddr500 has more problems running at slow speeds (ddr400) than fast speeds (ddr500). And I also use slots 1 and 2 for ram much better for me.

Also is that cas 3 ram? because cas 3 never works very well in nforce 3. You might want to look for the highest overclock in 2.5.