The card clocks on the 27k run were like 540/435 on chiller and a pelt. The FX53 can almost do that on water and 510/410 card clocks. The 25k run is with my every day card clocks of 465/385.
The card clocks on the 27k run were like 540/435 on chiller and a pelt. The FX53 can almost do that on water and 510/410 card clocks. The 25k run is with my every day card clocks of 465/385.
Here you go charlie:
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Guys, I'd like to have an oppinion from you:
The "possible failure" so far, of these S939 systems, is it due to the lack of good MB or is it due to FX53 CPU?
What about the NF3 250 boards? Same story of the VIA boards?
Thank you for your feedback....
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Originally posted by StormPC
I'm pretty sure this formula is valid. S939=Crap!
I'm 100% sure of this formula. A8V=Crap!
I'll know more next weekend when I bench my FX-53, but it looks bad right now!
OPP had an A8V S939 rig he tested with cascade. What were his 3D results? Don't know. He didn't run anything worth publishing.
Jason was gonna break 38k with his new S939 rig with X800XT. Next thing you hear he's sold all his gear and become a monk (or was it a nun?).
Jeezuz H Christ.....are you still at it Storm!:rolleyes: You appear on every 939 thread ready to dole out back handed compliments and poo poo everything. My god, I've never ever seen anyone waste so much time, energy, and BBS space bashing hardware they know nothing about.
Get out from behind your wimpy "air cooled" excuse and do something real. Until you start handling and working the hardware at issue your opinions are worthless. And, by the tone of the responses you get on on this BBS, others agrees.
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Originally posted by ojdr2001
Guys, I'd like to have an oppinion from you:
The "possible failure" so far, of these S939 systems, is it due to the lack of good MB or is it due to FX53 CPU?
What about the NF3 250 boards? Same story of the VIA boards?
Thank you for your feedback....
My system is rocking. I have a Mach II for cooling. No volt mods, no OS tweaks, tons of background services and system tray apps, and all the other bloated goodies on a typical gaming rig. Without pushing anything to limit, easy 32Ks were acheived with the A8V, FX 53, and X800 Pro with very modest clocks. LOL...I got to number 11 on the ORB without even trying. Just basic OCing.
There is no doubt that the 939 platform is the fastest on the planet (regardless of what some armchair quarterback ORB worshippers think).
I think better boards are coming and will help. But, even so, this set up is faster and more stable than the orignal 940 platform I had last fall that I got rid of after a few weeks. It tooks some time for the 940 boards to amount to much in the beginning as well.
Charlie, was fsb were you trying to boot into windows with. I've noticed that on these boards, both the giga and the A8V, that when I set the mem voltage up, I can't boot into windows at 200. At 2.8 vdimm on the A8V I have to start at 210 and at 3.4 vdimm on the giga I have to start at 240ish. If I don't I get memory errors and it wont boot.
As I said before, I think it is VIA. The chipset (according to ASUS) has problems when you attempt to use the AGP/PCI locks, which is why the only way you can attempt to use them is with a beta BIOS. ASUS's official position is that the A8V DOES NOT support this feature. Others have told me that their boards were not very stable and did not overclock well even with the official released BIOS version but I can't confirm that.Quote:
Originally posted by ojdr2001
Guys, I'd like to have an oppinion from you:
The "possible failure" so far, of these S939 systems, is it due to the lack of good MB or is it due to FX53 CPU?
What about the NF3 250 boards? Same story of the VIA boards?
Thank you for your feedback....
I've had the S754 Gigabyte running for awhile now and I have a S939 board coming. I've heard complaints about those boards as well but we'll see. I plan on running the S939 and S754 with the exact same hardware including CPU cooling and VC. With identical hardware comparing performance will actually be meaningful. Should be fun.:D
mdzcpa
It is not Macci or OPP who need to "work on" things buddy.;)
OPP is practically my next door neighbor so I doubt you know more about what he's working than I.:rolleyes:
pkrew
"I can't boot into windows at 200. At 2.8 vdimm on the A8V I have to start at 210 and at 3.4 vdimm on the giga I have to start at 240ish. If I don't I get memory errors and it wont boot."
And this doesn't bother you? Well it bothers me (and my customers) a lot. So I guess I could tell my customers that their $3000.00 highend gaming rig will run fine as long as they don't want to boot at the 200MHz default FSB. :rolleyes:
Really? I just didn't know that! Holy smokes! If I had known your Mom and Dad lived so close to OPP I would never have questioned your expert extreme "hands on" knowledge. I hear that just living in the same state as OPP gives you OC powers... LOL:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by StormPC
mdzcpa
It is not Macci or OPP who need to "work on" things buddy.;)
OPP is practically my next door neighbor so I doubt you know more about what he's working than I.:rolleyes:
Please, how long have you known him? Eric have been friends for a long time now and have been sharing OC tips since the Slot A days (lol....probably long before you even had a driver license) :rotf: Frankly, I'd talk to him directly before opening your mouth and "name dropping" like that. I doubt he appreciates it.
BTW, I don't need to work on anything. I've been to the top of the ORB before. Have you? In fact, come to think of it, have you done anything extreme at all? Yep, that's what I thought. I mean c'mon, air cooled rigs....who cares:rolleyes: When you get to the top of the ORB someday...look me up. Until then your just a pleeb;)
Back to the topic. I'm sure we'll find 939 sytems at the top of the pack soon enough. It's been all of 3 weeks with no one with the time and right equipment necessary to do the job. Contrary to what Storm learned while having a cup of coffee with OPP this morning, there are indeed 939 systems in the works that will soon be at the top (ahhh, the beauty of the PM..lol)
Like I said, Macci and OPP are not the ones with issues here. Are you finished ranting? This isn't going anywhere, you know?:slap:
Who ever said they are having any issues?
And I am not the one coming into every 939 platform thread making negative comments about hardware I have not even used, not to mention tried anything more extreme than air cooling.
I haven't even started ranting :D
It is going somewhere too. There are too many eyes that visit these forums that may erroneously think you know what your talking about when it comes to the viability of the 939 platform. So I'll be here to remind them:D
As Rodney King once said, "Can't we all just get along?" :D Tweaking is part of the overclocking experience. I could run everything stock, but where's the fun in doing that? I could also have bought a phase change system and climbed even farther up the ORB. But I've chosen not to. Still, I've managed to make it into the top-20 of both 3DMark01 & 3DMark03 with less than 2.7GHz. So far, my A8V has given me no problems. None. Zilch.
It's still WAY TOO EARLY to draw any definite conclusions about the 939 platform.
Can I get a word in here :D
That's all I've been trying to say.Quote:
Originally posted by sierra_bound
It's still WAY TOO EARLY to draw any definite conclusions about the 939 platform.
I shouldn't let Storm (who is obviously afraid that his system is obsolete) get to me.
My apologies to everyone, even Storm.
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Originally posted by cowpuppy
Can I get a word in here :D
Nice to see you Jim!!
If only you had an X800 XT to go in there!!! Good work:toast:
Nice, cowpuppy. Benches often speak louder than words. :DQuote:
Originally posted by cowpuppy
Can I get a word in here :D
It doesn't bother me a bit storm and I doubt that it would bother your customers either. I can't imagine you're going to run 3.4v of vdimm for them. I highly suspect that they wont be overclocking at all. So frankly you could use the official bios and not need locks in the first place. If you're going to make an argument please make one that makes some sense.
No No....don't have him do that! We'll lose all the entertainment value;)Quote:
Originally posted by pkrew
If you're going to make an argument please make one that makes some sense.
/jk:D
hasn't worked yet.Quote:
Originally posted by sierra_bound
charlie, my understanding is that 1006.004 does not have the lock option. :( But xgman has a modded 1006 from Bigtoe. Haven't heard him yet.
That's too bad. I heard Asus is working on an official BIOS (1007) that supposedly has the lock option. I'll believe it when I see it. lol.Quote:
Originally posted by xgman
hasn't worked yet.
I have has 3 A8V's and one AV8 and one NF3 250-939 so far and as far as the via, I am convinced that we have not yet seen the revised version of the via chipset that should fix at least some of these problems. I know Abut has a revised version coming out as a rev. 1.1 board in a couple of weeks and I assume at some point so will asus, but lets face it the current Via KT800 pro chipset is FUBAR'ed,. And to make matters worse, the NF3-250 I tried was even worse.
I also am experiencing the weird voltage things when trying to overclock, for the record. It is juts simply impossible to do any meaningfully testing in the current state of affairs. 939 and stability simply don't exist yet with maybe a few lucky exceptions for whatever reason. Pretty pathetic really.
where did you hear that? And I hope it isn't like the abit where that new bios will only work on the next rev. board.Quote:
Originally posted by sierra_bound
That's too bad. I heard Asus is working on an official BIOS (1007) that supposedly has the lock option. I'll believe it when I see it. lol.
Try CH5 on your Gigabyte man ;)Quote:
Originally posted by xgman
I have has 3 A8V's and one AV8 and one NF3 250-939 so far and as far as the via, I am convinced that we have not yet seen the revised version of the via chipset that should fix at least some of these problems. I know Abut has a revised version coming out as a rev. 1.1 board in a couple of weeks and I assume at some point so will asus, but lets face it the current Via KT800 pro chipset is FUBAR'ed,. And to make matters worse, the NF3-250 I tried was even worse.
I also am experiencing the weird voltage things when trying to overclock, for the record. It is juts simply impossible to do any meaningfully testing in the current state of affairs. 939 and stability simply don't exist yet with maybe a few lucky exceptions for whatever reason. Pretty pathetic really.
gigabyte has gone back. Maybe I'll try the DFI version again. I think they also have a via version planned.
Someone on another forum sent an email to Asus asking about the AGP/PCI lock and that was the reply the person got. Here's an excerpt:Quote:
Originally posted by xgman
where did you hear that? And I hope it isn't like the abit where that new bios will only work on the next rev. board.
"This is a problem that we are currently addressing on this board. It should be corrected and fully operational on the next official BIOS revision. The revision will be 1007 and should be out within the next few weeks. Thanks."