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06-23-2008, 12:01 PM
TouGe

Quote:

Originally Posted by 71proste

my board,bios 0704,fsb 550
Vnb 1.26-real 1.29v
1.4v-real 1.44v
vDimm 2.16v-real 2.17v(load,idle no difference)
vcore LLC dis-0.02v
LLC ena-0.005v

I wish I could be as fortunate as you. With LLC disabled I get the following:
BIOS: 1.33750V
Windows: 1.31V
Load: 1.26V
~0.08v difference
This is why I was looking for a volt mod earlier in this thread. I was able to cut Vdroop in half using a volt mod on my Maximus Formula w/ LLC disabled.
06-23-2008, 12:02 PM
Mumid

There you go:

http://pix.nofrag.com/9/c/0/12d573e1...fc8da9b98f.jpg
06-23-2008, 12:12 PM
R@ptor =]]

Quote:

Originally Posted by TouGe

I wish I could be as fortunate as you. With LLC disabled I get the following:
BIOS: 1.33750V
Windows: 1.31V
Load: 1.26V
~0.08v difference
This is why I was looking for a volt mod earlier in this thread. I was able to cut Vdroop in half using a volt mod on my Maximus Formula w/ LLC disabled.

why you do not enable the LCC?
is not the function of it? delete the vdroop?
06-23-2008, 01:36 PM
STaRGaZeR

Quote:

Originally Posted by 71proste

At least I have DMM,so im lucky.It's very easy to kill memory on Asus boards.
I had dfi x38 and all voltages were very stable,much better than here.

Chri$h absolutely YES ;).OS software is not for voltages,only way is DMM to be sure.

I've never killed a single stick of RAM, and I've used ASUS mainly, but also Intel and DFI. The only weird behaviour was those f*cking D9s degradating with time, but they were alive after all. I learned my lesson, no more D9 dying crap for me. Thanks to Powerchip this is a thing of the past, and luckily almost all 2x2GB DDR2 kits are Powerchips :up:

And DMM has to be always in the overclocker's table, even for vcore.
06-23-2008, 01:55 PM
bobn4burton

Quote:

Originally Posted by STaRGaZeR

And DMM has to be always in the overclocker's table, even for vcore.

So where on the P5Q-D do we probe for the different voltages?? (cpu, vdimm, nb, etc??)

I have a DMM but don't know where to probe...
06-23-2008, 01:55 PM
Leeghoofd

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mumid

Actually mate, again having looked into this it seems that i wasnt right and the options on the Gigabyte are the same as the Asus. Again unconfirmed though

I found that Gigabyte new P45 bios look link mate :

Here it is : http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/hardw...-facelift.html

gonna shut dow now and try to report ya with some results

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobn4burton

So where on the P5Q-D do we probe for the different voltages?? (cpu, vdimm, nb, etc??)

I have a DMM but don't know where to probe...

Readouts in this german post : http://www.awardfabrik.de/forum/showthread.php?t=3817
06-23-2008, 02:10 PM
Mumid

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

I found that Gigabyte new P45 bios look link mate :

Here it is : http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/hardw...-facelift.html

Yeah the bios looks like it has very similar options to the Asus. Just wonder whether the Gigabyte p45 boards are the same with performance level as the Asus, I see benchzowner has been testing one of them but its hard to say from his results.

Quote:

gonna shut dow now and try to report ya with some results

Cool dude, look fwd to it :up:
06-23-2008, 02:29 PM
bobn4burton

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

Readouts in this german post : http://www.awardfabrik.de/forum/showthread.php?t=3817

Perfect...thanks!

Oh...what about vcore voltage?? Is that the same as pll or fsb voltages that is shown in the thread??
06-23-2008, 02:30 PM
Leeghoofd

K here are the results Mumid so booted out of the bios at 500 X 8 (set Manual PL Level 9) and timings 4-4-4-12 2T for the ram :

http://users.pandora.be/OAP/P5QDlx/mumid.JPG

Now I put in your timigns via memset :

http://users.pandora.be/OAP/P5QDlx/mumid2.JPG

to me there is not much too it... P45 looses on Read and latency but wins big time on Copy
06-23-2008, 02:37 PM
Mumid

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

K here are the results Mumid so booted out of the bios at 500 X 8 (set Manual PL Level 9) and timings 4-4-4-12 2T for the ram :

Now I put in your timigns via memset :

to me there is not much too it... P45 looses on Read and latency but wins big time on Copy

Thats excellent not much in it at all and with tweaks and bios optimisations its most likely that P45 will surely surpass P35 in every way. Thanks for the tests mate. Will the board run blend with those settings fine?
06-23-2008, 02:42 PM
Leeghoofd

it blends at 9-10 here yes, 8 is a no go ( if it posts )

Nb was at 1.26volts, FSB Term 1.24 and CPU PLL at 1.5, ram manual timings set, TB manual at 9 and clock twister at strong...
06-23-2008, 02:44 PM
R@ptor =]]

@ Leeghoofd
500fsb it's not much to 24/7...i think..
what you think??
the LCC is enabled?
06-23-2008, 02:50 PM
Leeghoofd

I don't use LLC for my 24/7 clocks I need to set around 1.32 to get 1.28 under full load with the wolfdale, with the quad I need 1.31 for 1.25 action... and even without LLC the Vcore is fabulously smooth :

http://users.pandora.be/OAP/P5QDlx/E8500Joachim.JPG
06-23-2008, 03:00 PM
jVIDIA

Quote:

Originally Posted by jVIDIA

What's the story of memtest being buggy with 2GB sticks ? Memtest for windows ?

In fact , my mem @ 1128MHz with 5-5-5-15 and trfc=55 I get no errors with memtest86+, but in windows with memtest (from hcidesign) I get some errors !!! few but some ...

Any idea what's going on ?

:confused:
06-23-2008, 03:07 PM
R@ptor =]]

I don't understand yet.
If the LCC it's to cut the vdroop, why don't set it to enable?
06-23-2008, 04:21 PM
STaRGaZeR

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobn4burton

So where on the P5Q-D do we probe for the different voltages?? (cpu, vdimm, nb, etc??)

I have a DMM but don't know where to probe...

In this thread there were some pics showing reading points for vdimm, vNB, vPLL and vFSB. If you don't find them PM me, I've them saved. vdimm and vNB are very easy to read :up:

EDIT: pics posted, thanks to AwardFabrik :)

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/3331/vdimm649ps0.jpg

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/2315/vnbo0lvo6.jpg

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/8...vfsbckicm7.jpg
06-23-2008, 08:17 PM
-n7-

Quote:

Originally Posted by jVIDIA

:confused:

Multiple instances of HCI are far more stressful on the RAM/NB than Memtest86+ could ever dream to be.

I'm getting the same BS with my 8 GB right now as well & it's infuriating to me because...

I actually bought this board in the hopes i could consistently pass 100% in HCI with 8 GB, since that was impossible on my DFI, but nope, same damned issue on this P5Q Deluxe. :mad::shakes:

I cannot figure out what secret i am missing, as i loosen up every single subtimings & it still fails every time.

Can anyone shed some insight into the skews?
06-23-2008, 11:28 PM
Leeghoofd

Quote:

Originally Posted by jVIDIA

What's the story of memtest being buggy with 2GB sticks ? Memtest for windows ?

In fact , my mem @ 1128MHz with 5-5-5-15 and trfc=55 I get no errors with memtest86+, but in windows with memtest (from hcidesign) I get some errors !!! few but some ...

Any idea what's going on ?

With memtest being buggy I mean the test in dos , my 2gb stick ( that caused me multiple BSOD's) passed over 15 loops of memtest, yet OCCT RAM test capped out under 30 mins... Same with Prime blend mode, passed 8 hours with the same stick...

For your sticks jVIDIA you are running them out of specs... it could help just to relax a few timings like TRFC to 60, ...

@n7 plz fill in the template and post your settings plz...
06-24-2008, 12:06 AM
Lil'ManComputer

hi guys!

I tried the 0703 BIOS for p5q, but it seems its worse then the first one. I reached with the 05xx issue 6x590, I thought I could go over 600 with the new release, but with this 0703 i dont even get over 535 with the same processor. Some new options were added, I adjusted them a lot, and I dont know what value to set them.:shrug: I saved the 6x590 setting to an OC profile, but it dont seems to work with this BIOS. What template should I use with this new BIOS? Or is this release really worse then the first one?
06-24-2008, 01:46 AM
Leeghoofd

It's pretty normal previous saved OC profiles don't work anymore with a new bios... I would try to pop the battery so that all remaining stuff from the previous bios are erased... and then try again,

Move one step at a time it could be eg that they decreased latencies or such so previous settings do not work properly...

If no go plz list all ya hardware specs so we can spread the word...
06-24-2008, 03:15 AM
LUCI5R

Alright guys, I think I've hit a wall @ 450FSB. I'm looking for 24/7 Stability. Not looking for Benching. I can Boot into Windows @ 500FSB, but higher the FSB (from 450), and the sooner it comes crashing down.

@ 460FSB I'm able to stay in Windows without any operational problems, but Prime95 begins to show "Worker thread stopped" one by one. Doesn't really crash the system. Anything beyond 450-460FSB and Prime95 & OCCT eventually fail.

So is this it for 24/7 stability or can I do anything more? These are my settings - I haven't gone up on these settings at all. Didn't know if I should. Can you take a look at my volts/settings and see if there's any more room for me to play with - if there's anything else I should increase?

CPU Ratio Setting: 8.0
FSB Strap to North Bridge: AUTO
FSB Frequency: 450
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-901 (1:1)

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: AUTO
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

DRAM Static Read Control: DISABLED
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO

CPU Voltage: 1.3625v
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.58v
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.32v
DRAM Voltage: 1.98v
NB Voltage: 1.22v
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: 1.20v
PCIE SATA Voltage: 1.50v

Load Line Calibration: DISABLED
CPU Clock Skew : AUTO
NB Clock Skew : AUTO

http://b3lial.rahulsjohari.com/GRAPH...0X8_062208.gif
06-24-2008, 03:36 AM
Leeghoofd

Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Vcore : 1.4
NB voltage : 1.28

If like you said system gets well into windows but fails on a core in small FFT's it's usually Vcore... you can also try to drop down to 7x and see if you can get 475 stable with above settings... make sure ya ram stays in sync !!!
How hot does that CPU run with ya Freezer ?
06-24-2008, 03:51 AM
hellcamino

I needed GTL 670 on all cores , load line enabled and 400ps cpu clock skew to get past 453 fsb but 500 is do-able now . I am using 477x8.5 for daily use currently .
06-24-2008, 03:52 AM
LUCI5R

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Vcore : 1.4
NB voltage : 1.28

I'll give these values a shot!! Any room within CPU PLL, FSB Term & DRAM? Or should I leave those alone?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

If like you said system gets well into windows but fails on a core in small FFT's it's usually Vcore... you can also try to drop down to 7x and see if you can get 475 stable with above settings... make sure ya ram stays in sync !!!

Yes, booting into windows is not a problem at all! Not once did I have any issues booting into windows - in fact once in Windows, even at 500FSB, I was able to launch a couple of applications and stayed there for a while before Explorer gave me an error.

If I'm using Prime95, do I have to use OCCT as well, or is Prime95 sufficient?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

How hot does that CPU run with ya Freezer ?

Only during Torture/Stress Tests does it come near 70 degrees. For all my actual operations (video encoding, photoshop, etc.) I'm hovering between 55 - 65 degrees.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LUCI5R

CPU Ratio Setting: 8.0
FSB Strap to North Bridge: AUTO
FSB Frequency: 450
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-901 (1:1)

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: AUTO
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

DRAM Static Read Control: DISABLED
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO

CPU Voltage: 1.3625v
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.58v
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.32v
DRAM Voltage: 1.98v
NB Voltage: 1.22v
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: 1.20v
PCIE SATA Voltage: 1.50v

Load Line Calibration: DISABLED
CPU Clock Skew : AUTO
NB Clock Skew : AUTO
06-24-2008, 04:24 AM
shevfa

My Asus P5Q-Deluxe mobo will not boot after saving any changes bios till I reset cmos. All fans spinning but monitor blank.

After saving the changes by pressing f10, the PC will shut down for a few second then start up again. But upon start up, monitor no display, cpu+all fans spinning, keyboard no light.
I am able to change the bios settings and save the changes after reseting the cmos the 1st time round. But if I am to changes any settings after tat, the mobo will not POST.

When I press Ctrl-Alt-Del in booting up b4 loading into Windows the same problem will occur. Headache. What could be the problem? Already flashed to the latest official 0704 bios.

I don’t wish to clear cmos everytime I change and save a setting in bios.

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