Mydog,Quote:
Originally Posted by Mydog
I just received a 980X...I upgraded my BIOS to 1802...I am having a real issue overclocking...Would you mind posting your BIOS settings?
-M
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Mydog,Quote:
Originally Posted by Mydog
I just received a 980X...I upgraded my BIOS to 1802...I am having a real issue overclocking...Would you mind posting your BIOS settings?
-M
What kind of issues?Quote:
Originally Posted by managerman
I'm at work now but I'll post them as soon as I get home.
Big problem getting over 190 BLCK....Maybe I should just not worry about it since the multi is unlocked...but would still like to see your settings...I am not sure about some of the settings for voltages other than VCORE...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mydog
Thanks a bunch!
-M
OKQuote:
Originally Posted by managerman
Here you go
CPU Config: everything disabled but HT on
CPU ratio: 21
Turbo: Off
BCLK: 200
PCIE Freq: 100
Dram freq: 1603
UCLK Freq: 3208
QPI Link: Auto
Load-Line Cal: Enabled
CPU Diff. Ampl.: Auto
Vcore: 1,34
PLL: 1,81
QPI/DRAM: 1,3
IOH V:1,11
IOH Pcie v: 1,51
IHC V: 1,11
IHC Pcie v: 1,51
DRAM V: 1,65
CPU Spread Spe: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spe: Disabled
The rest on AUTO
Hope this will help you.
Pushed ram & uncore a little harder for a SPI32M
3.43 GHz | 4049 MHz uncore | DDR3-2025 MHz | 7-8-7-20 1T | B2B = 4
http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/w...ncoreddr3-.jpg
You could trade/buy a NB/SB Bitspower block. The X-Fi will definitely fit then.
Mydog,
It helped a bunch!!! Thanks!!!...I am well on my way to a nice overclock...will be testing more stability tomorrow...The idle and load temps are insanely low with this chip...100% load on LinX never went above 55C on any core! Gotta love those Cinebench scores!
Here are my settings:
CPU Config: everything disabled but HT on
CPU ratio: 22
Turbo: Off
BCLK: 200
PCIE Freq: 101
Dram freq: 1600
UCLK Freq: 3208
QPI Link: Auto
Load-Line Cal: Enabled
CPU Diff. Ampl.: Auto
Vcore: 1.41
PLL: 1,81
QPI/DRAM: 1.38
IOH V:1,11
IOH Pcie v: 1,51
IHC V: 1,11
IHC Pcie v: 1,51
DRAM V: 1,65
CPU Spread Spe: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spe: Disabled
The rest on AUTO
-M
Nice results, thats 32nm for you cool and fast.Quote:
Originally Posted by managerman
Glad I could help:up:
aaaah ;) rampage2 is under water :) but I dont have a slight of an idea where to start ... want about 4,4+ ghz ... i960 ... where would you start? blck 200 with 23x ... just give me some biossettings .... PLEAZ :;) toyz
Very nice, managerman.
Is that just for benching or 24/7? Not sure if 1.4v is a good idea on a 32nm chip...
That's high even for 45nm i7...
anyone know if i can run crossfire in first blue and third white slots
will it be 16x16?
i'm too lazy to take out the psu
these acceleros takin lots of space:(
That slot can only run at 8x or 1x, iircQuote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
thanksQuote:
Originally Posted by artemm
:hitself::hitself:
i dont think a 4870 will need more than 8:shrug:
or mabe time to sell the i7 and game on rex
Yeah 3rd slot is 8x max electrical. You could always just sell both 4870's and pick up a 5870 heh.
Not sure yet...I have not seen the "official" voltage recommendations for 32nm...but I have seen a lot of posts benchmarking these chips over 1.5v..Quote:
Originally Posted by artemm
I think for now 1.4 would be as high as I go 24/7...but I am sure I will go for some suicide runs to see how far I can take the chip for benchmarking....Why not :D
-M
i almost bought the 5850 stupid meQuote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
and i passed 1 up for 240$ :rofl:
i passed up a 5870 for 350:mad:
i traded 4gb of ddr3for another 4870 yesterday :rofl:
you think its gonna take a big hit 16x8
and i wonder if i can even find a long crossfire cable
i think i wil sell this cherry rig n just game on rex spacing is perfect
Hey zsamz . Put your two cards in the pcie x16 slots to get the full bandwidth . I look at it like this , when there is free performance at hand grab it and run with it . Why choose the slower route when a faster way is there for the taken and free !!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by seba84_2005
At first sight it seemed a futuristic car engine.
Many compliments! :)
Rather low LinX speed with 12 threads...:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by managerman
I get 54.4 with 8 threads, 5000 Mb used, x64 core, cpu (i7-975ee) at 4200 MHz, memory at 1877 MHz 7-7-6-18-88, B2B 4.
Can you push a little more your overclock? :)
seba84_2005 Rig > http://i470.photobucket.com/albums/rr63/pcnazz/rig.jpg
Super clean ! Love it :up: .
That is a damn fine looking PC seba84_2005, excellent work.
http://i470.photobucket.com/albums/r...summarypg1.jpghttp://i470.photobucket.com/albums/r...summarypg2.jpghttp://i470.photobucket.com/albums/r...inX50times.jpghttp://i470.photobucket.com/albums/r...GhzBios011.jpghttp://i470.photobucket.com/albums/r...GhzBios007.jpghttp://i470.photobucket.com/albums/r.../441ghz001.jpghttp://i470.photobucket.com/albums/r...GhzBios016.jpghttp://i470.photobucket.com/albums/r...GhzBios014.jpghttp://i470.photobucket.com/albums/r...GhzBios015.jpghttp://i470.photobucket.com/albums/r...GhzBios018.jpg My Bios for Rampage II Extreme v1704 & i7 920 & Corsair Dominator 2000GT CL8 Signature Clocks . LinX 50 times passed . Also stable 100% with HT enabled adjusting just IOH to 1.7966v and Dram Round Trip latency CHA CHB CHC to auto with all other bios settings the exact same . Do your own over clocking and stability testing but you can see here what is working for me 24/7 100% stable . Keep in mind with HT enabled you will see about a good 10c higher temps per core .
Dibs on your proc!!! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
when i sell you on the top of the listQuote:
Originally Posted by turtletrax
kinda hard to let go of the perfect day to day rig
nice job seba84_2005, amazing.
Zsamz you're on air right? Got some screens of a prime or linx run at 4.3 - 4.4GHz? I want to see your temps.Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
i704 bios settings:Quote:
Originally Posted by Nasko
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j2...d/IMG_0201.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j2...d/IMG_0202.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j2...d/IMG_0203.jpg
Stable at 4.2GHz HT on:
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j2...nMegahalem.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j2...GHzat1264v.jpg
Thanks, but i get BSOD again even with this settings only if i set bios default can get to desctop and to work normal.With 1504 everything is OK max BCLK is 216 but on 1704 or1804 cant use my settings even foe 2.66ghz.
What new in tne bios 1802 for now i have the 1504 ?
Thank's
Well all I know is that it supports 32nm like i7-980X Gulftown CPU's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Le Titi
idle @ 36-40 prime 60c-65 linx 75c-80cQuote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
i pressed save with linx i thought was SC lol
i gonna do some testin soon and save sc 4 sure lol
ok guys i have a quick question regarding gpu's. i have 2 5870's in crossfire and currently seated in the two blue colored pci slots. now im going the water cooling route and i was just wondering if i seat the second gpu in the last pci slot (the white colored) would i see any performance drop or anything at all?
i wondered the same with 2 4870 cardsQuote:
Originally Posted by xxh1tm4nxx
but with 5870 i know it would take a small hit
IIRC no matter what you do the second card will end up at 8x.Quote:
Originally Posted by xxh1tm4nxx
One quick question as well. Is there any solution on fixing that system not waking up without a force restart after getting into sleep mode? I have the latest BIOS.
I have bios 1504. Is there any benefit putting 1802 on instead?
Spec:
Core i7 920 D0 - watercooled
4870X2 - watercooled
Asus R2E
Corsair 6GB 16000 3x2
I managed to get PC stable on IBT for 10 runs, max mem and 8 threads:
4.1 - 21x196 ram@ 1572
vcore - 1.3
vtt - 1.325
Temps - MAX 72 70 70 66 - Was hovering around 67/68
NB/SB - 56
Gaming got to 62 59 59 57
I'm thinking I may drop down to 4ghz - 21x 191 ram@1532 as it needs a lot less volts.
Vcore 1.275
Vtt 1.23
20X200 just seems so unstable so not bothering with that. I have speedstep disabled and C1E Tech disabled also. Should I be setting any other voltages, disabling stuff etc?
Would it be better to lower it than run at 4.1 with higher volts? Really wanted ram at 1600 too, which I could get if I went to 21x200 but will need more volts.
RoEy
I just got the I7 930 to replace my CO 920 that wouldn't oc over 3.8ghz. Does anyone have any experience with this CPU on this board yet?
In my system BIOS 1704 and 1802 permit a lower Vtt and Vcpu than 1504, at same settings.Quote:
Originally Posted by RoEy
I suggest to try.
hey guys,
just sendt my p6t deluxe v2 to rma and got the Asus Rampage Extreme II instead.
Could someone please save me the hassle and say which bios is the "best / most stable" for overclocking?
Thanks in advance
I'm still on 1504, as I haven't had an issue and don't have a reason to upgrade until Asus put in the changes I requested from them.
Oh weah.... everytime i see : Support new CPUs. Please refer to our website at: http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/c...t.aspx?SLangua and nothing more as a changelog i feel like tortureing a asus employeQuote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
its so :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing anoying!
I'm also using 1504 and don't have any problems.
Thanks. Anyone else notice that? I might update to 1802 tonight then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brama
I tried 20x200 last night and I needed 1.3065vcore and 1.30vtt, IBT 20 runs Max mem was stable. But I had a few glitches in windows like parts of the screen going black in places.
Does that mean I need more volts or have a corrupted windows, Windows 7 that is?
Plus, I don't tend to set the IOH voltage as I leave it on auto, is it best to put to 1.2 when going for 4ghz?
RoEy
Anyone?
RoEy
Never put a voltage straight to anything in some kind of attempt at preempting instability. Rule no#1 of overclocking - only increase a voltage when needed. You should be doing a suite of tests when overclocking, and when instability occurs, testing will reveal which voltage/setting is responsible.
For 200 BCLK you shouldn't need more than ~1.15 vIOH set in BIOS. That is not to say set it to 1.15v, I'm just giving you a ballpark. Do some testing and establish what your system needs.
I'm strugglying as to know how to overclock it properly then. I've noticed a lot of you guys clock the bclk first to get that stable, then the multi and finally ram.Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
I'd like to know how to do this and what things I should be enabling disabling in the BIOS, what voltages should be on auto/manually set.
I've just jumped straight in at 4ghz and I'm now thinking I'd learn a lot more if I did things one step at a time.
I really need to decide which overclock I want too, as I keep toying with 21x191, 21x196, 21x200 and 20x200. Most vcore I've needed so far is 1.335 in BIOS for 21x200 but goes upto 1.38 on load so don't think its safe. Need to go back to the drawing board I think.....
Hope someone can give me some sort of structure and guidance.
Whats best bios version too, as I'm currently running 1504? Plus, I always use IBT and Prime to stress but looks like you all prefer linx on here. Is it better than IBT?
RoEy
You could try my settings:Quote:
Originally Posted by RoEy
Vcore 1.35
Vtt 1.35
IOH defualt
NB / SB default
CPU Amplitude Control to 1000mv
21*201 BLCK
Lock the PCIe speed @ 101
Mem DDR1600 @ CAS 8
UNcore 3200
Vmem 1.65v
Im running a Core i7 920 @ 4.2 ghz for 13 months now. No issues whatsoever!
Hello,
I have Rampage 2 Extreme with core i7 920 D0 stepping and 3 x 2GB Corsair Dominator TR3X6G1600C7D Kit that i just purchased from newegg this week.
I have not overclocked the CPU at all yet because i CANT !! :(
Was wondering if anyone has this kit working at 1600 mhz with 7-7-7-20 @ 1T timings ? or for that matter 8-8-8-24-1T or 2T timings manually without enabling XMP ?
The only way i get stable and dont crash running OCCT with this kit is to enable XMP via the Ai Overclock in the bios and that sets the ram to 7-7-7-20-2T and Qpi/Dram to 1.35v and Dram to 1.65v. With Xmp enabled my system is completely stable at Stock but i cant Overclock at all :(
These are my current settings:-
CPU Ratio - Auto
BCLK - Auto
CPU V - 1.268 (as set in bios not real.. real is 1.256v as shown by cpu-z)
DRAM - XMP enabled!!!
QPI/DRAM - 1.356 --- set by XMP
IOH V - auto
ICH - auto
CPU PLL - auto
DRAM V - 1.65 --- Set by XMP
Memory timing:
Auto for everything as is set by XMP. ( XMP sets 7-7-7-20-2T )
I am completely stable with the Above settings.
Now here is where it gets strange.
I tried to set 7-7-7-20- 1T manually with QPI/DRAM to 1.35v and DRAM to 1.65v and i crash in under 10 mins. I also tried setting 8-8-8-24- 1T manually to loosen the timings also keeping QPI/DRAM to 1.35v and DRAM to 1.65v without any success. :(
This is quite strange because i have a Corsair Dominator 6GB TR3X6G1600C8D kit rated @ 8-8-8-24-2T as well and that runs 8-8-8-24- 1T timings with QPI/DRAM to 1.35v and DRAM to 1.65v when i set it up manually with no problems at all
If i try the following setting with the Corsair Dominator TR3X6G1600C7D Kit then i crash :-
CPU Ratio - Auto
BCLK - Auto ( it is 133)
CPU V - 1.268 (as set in bios not real)
DRAM - 1603
QPI/DRAM - 1.356
IOH V - auto
ICH - auto
CPU PLL - auto
DRAM V - 1.65
Memory timing:
8-8-8-24 - 1T and Auto for everything else = CRASH
7-7-7-20 - 2T and Auto for everything else = CRASH
No luck at all....
Basically even with the cpu at stock 2.66 i cant change any of the ram timings manually. Enable XMP and the system is fine .. runs OCCT all day long and also no memtest errors !
The moment i turn off XMP and set ram timings manually even to the rated specs of 7-7-7-20-2T and QPI/DRAM to 1.35v and DRAM to 1.65v i get a CRASH !! in under 10 mins :(
if i try to change my Dram Timing to 7-7-7-20 -1T or 8-8-8-20-1T or even 8-8-8-24-1T, then i get crashes in OCCT and memtest86 errors even at Stock !!
I dont change the Qpi or Dram voltage either. Its left at 1.35v for Qpi and 1.65v for Dram.
Here is a cpu-z screenshot of my settings that fail at 7-7-7-20 1T.
Screenshot
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/9638/unstableq.jpg
Would love some help guys...
Thanks for all the help in advance and reading my long post !!
Cheers. :)
P.S Currently on bios 1504.
Hi Nordien,Quote:
Originally Posted by nordien
Thank you for taking the time to respond to me.
I'd like to keep it at 4.2 if I could so I'll show you what I needed:
4.2
21X200
VCORE - 1.3375
VTT - 1.3375
IOH VOLTAGE - 1.245 (But I'm sure I can lower this, if not back on auto)
VDimm - 1.65
HT - ON
SpeedStep - disabled
C1E Tech - disabled
Turbo - disabled
LLC - Enabled
Ram at 1600
Uncore at 3200
CPU Spread spectrum - disabled
IBT Stable after 10 runs, 8 threads, max memory - 70 67 68 64
NB/SB Temps - 57 / 55
I have cpu and 4870x2 under water with quad rad.
Questions:
What bios you running?
What cooling do you have and are all the other parts on the motherboard ok at this speed with stock cooling, i.e. nb/sb/mosfets? I have a tj07 with 2 92mm rear fans at 1600rpm and murdermod topgrill now in instead of two 120mm top fans.
Whats your temps running IBT/Linx?
Should I put IOH voltage back to auto?
When system is under load, vcore goes upto 1.38 (everest reading) even though I've set it as 1.33750 which is over the intel recommended spec, won't this damage the cpu? Cpu-z reading says 1.32.
I still havent primed and run memtest so may not be fully stable yet, is there anything else which might add stability?
Thanks,
RoEy
What bios you running? 1802
What cooling do you have and are all the other parts on the motherboard ok at this speed with stock cooling, i.e. nb/sb/mosfets? I have a tj07 with 2 92mm rear fans at 1600rpm and murdermod topgrill now in instead of two 120mm top fans. I have a TRUE BLACK with a scythe @ push and a SilenX 120*38 mm pull. And 5 other SilenX fans in the Spedo Case.
Whats your temps running IBT/Linx? No time @ this moment but i would guess in the high 70's to mid 80's (Celsius)
Should I put IOH voltage back to auto? Put it @ the desired voltage manually.
When system is under load, vcore goes upto 1.38 (everest reading) even though I've set it as 1.33750 which is over the intel recommended spec, won't this damage the cpu? Cpu-z reading says 1.32. No, the CPU Amplitude and LoadLine calibration are responsible for this. But obviously the cpu needs 1.38 to be stable. I think the recommended spec is 1.35v (at least for my i7 920 C0/C1)
I still havent primed and run memtest so may not be fully stable yet, is there anything else which might add stability? COOLING, loadline calibration on enabled, CPU Amplitude control and a good CPU
Thanks,
RoEy[/QUOTE]
Who's using Mushkin Redlines 99805's or (998691) on this mobo? the 6-8-6-24 (6-8-6-18) v/s corsair's CMX6GX3M3C1600C7 @ 7-8-7-20 to the 1800 range and if so at what kind of timings and performances? Do you feel any performance trade of for the CL6 of the mushkins v/s the lower tRAS of 20 on the Corsair at stock and of corse in the OC range ov 1800? Are the 998691 really worth the slight extra cost when at or above 1900MHz? Keeping in mind I will be overclocking to at least 1800 so that's why I ask if the Mushkin 805's will do as good as 691's at upper speeds with like timings?
Hi all,
Ran into a problem. I decided to try and get 4ghz 20x200 stable.
Vcore - 1.30635
VTT - 1.3065
CPU PLL - 1.812
VDIMM - 1.65
IOH / ICH - all auto
CPU Spread Spectrum - disabled
Ram at 1600 8-8-8-24-1T
Passed 30 Max Runs on IBT
Started to run Prime95 and I get an error after 40 mins:
FATAL ERROR: Rounding was 0.5, expected less than 0.4
Hardware failure detected, consult stress.txt file.
Prime was still running but it was running at a load of 87%. I had the perfomance manager open and saw all 8 cores but the 3rd one was hardly running, hence the 87% load.
My CPU hasn't died has it? I'm guessing I need just a small bump in either VCORE or VTT or even both?
Temps were fine - 68 65 67 64
Hope someone can help.
Thanks,
RoEy
Another error!
I upped vcore and vtt one nudge and started prime again.
Got this error on the 1st core after 14 minutes:
FATAL ERROR: Resulting sum was 2.099013477481677e+016, expected: 2.127392654314129e+016
Hardware failure detected, consult stress.txt file.
I'm starting to think it's not vcore or vtt I need to up as before it was fine running IBT 30 Max mem runs.
IOH voltage maybe?
Running BLEND by the way.
Need help
Thanks,
RoEy
Seriously, if you don't have much (any?) experience with the platform or the principle of overclocking, start at a lower frequency and work your way up. You're not the first guy to just go straight for 4GHz + but as I have said quite a few times in this thread now, start low, work your way up. It's how you learn.
I do have some experience with Overclocking. I was running a 920 C0 at 3.8 for 10 months until I updated to a D0.Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
I'd love to start at a lower clock but not all of use have bags of time to just sit around all day testing, testing and testing.
Anyway,
I've left vcore at 1.30635 and I've upped the VTT to 1.325.
So far so good, Prime has been running for over an hour. Fingers crossed. I'll ask for help else where in future as I'm obviously annoying some of you.
RoEy
Don't take what I said the wrong way, it's impossible to convey tone with just text on a page. I meant what I said sincerely, with the aim of helping you out. You appeared to be frustrated and lost, then were very worried you had killed your CPU when it simply wasn't stable. It's not often you see someone freak out thinking they killed their CPU because after a few test runs at a given speed they couldn't get it stable. I suggested you start lower so you learn your new hardware, and avoid unnecessary stress. I'm certainly not annoyed at all, but can you understand that when you see someone struggling due to aiming too high you want to help by suggesting they set their sights a little lower to begin with? You are of course welcome to ask anything you want here, we're all here to help each other.
RoEy, ditch the 20 multi mate and go 19 multi, will be far easier to stabilise (and strangely enough with lower volts).
Try to run first Custom with 20-20K set to see if the Vcore is sufficient, then go blend and work with VTT voltage... if that passes after a few hours, try Hyperpi 32mb with 8 threads, and play some more with B2B Cas delay and VTT voltage...
Point taken. I apologise.Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
It's just that I've never seen a thread stop working before in Prime. I must have been lucky last time.
Anyway, it's still priming as I type this and I'm now at 2hours 35mins. So hopefully it will get to 8 hours. I totally agree with you saying take it slow and work your way up but I just don't have the time to do that. I've been messing with it all week after work and the wife is starting to get annoyed! lol
I've heard a few people say even multis are harder to get stable but I wanted my ram to run a full speed. I did want to push for 4.2 21x200 but I needed 1.33750 for both vcore and vtt and the load on vcore sent it upto 1.38 in IBT, which is over the intel recommend spec.
Is is ok going over 1.35 during load? I have LLC enabled. Didn't understand what the other chap said.
RoEy
That would give me 3.8 though and I want 4 or even 4.2 if I can be brave enough. :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
Unless you mean 19x210?
RoEy
DOH!
Must have spoken too soon. Got a BSOD, after 2 hours 40 mins. :(
I give up with the 20 multi.
Blue screen said something about service exception?
got this when I rebooted:
BCCode: 3b
BCP1: 00000000C0000005
BCP2: FFFFF96000298B30
BCP3: FFFFF8800551D740
BCP4: 0000000000000000
OS Version: 6_1_7600
Service Pack: 0_0
Product: 256_1
I really want the ram at 1600 and I want 4ghz but I don't think it's going to happen.
Should I update the BIOS? Running 1504
Help.....Please....
RoEy
No problem, I understand the family time constraints, it usually takes a lot of small sessions to get anything really squared away. When I say start low I meant ~3.6GHz, and as leeghoofd said, use odd multi's if you can as it requires less vcore.
211 x 19 is a good setting for 4GHz I've found. Takes less vcore than 200 x 20 and has higher ram/uncore speed.
EDIT - I'm on 1504 with no issues, I found it better than 1704 stability wise. 1704 wasn't recovering from failed overclocks and couldnt quite do the same BCLK as 1504. YMMV though.
Ok I'll try that mate. Won't that need more VTT though?Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
I may start at 3.6 and build.
Thanks again,
RoEy
Maybe, my CPU doesn't need much Vtt anyway but it's worth a try. I can run 218 BCLK at 1.224 Vtt prime stable so I'm well within specs still. The 20x multi is a nightmare compared to 19x and 21x in my experience.
You got that right!Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
Ok, I'll have a play. One more thing, Can I still leave the IOH/ICH's on auto when going past 200bclk?
Do nb temps increase when raising bclk?
Thanks again,
RoEy
P.S. Could do with you on msn:D
EDIT - 19X211 Sets my RAM to 1693, won't this cause problems with ram seeing as its rated upto 1600, plus I don't have a fan on the RAM?
I'd simply set vIOH = 1.15v and vSB = 1.1 (whatever the lowest one is) You can always reduce later if unnecessary or increase if necessary but that's a good place to start.
NB temps for me don't change with BCLK, its more dependent on vIOH from what I've noticed. Around mid 50's load is what I'm seeing.
You ram may well do more than DDR3-1600, I'm not familiar with your model but perhaps just try and use a low CPU/BCLK and test your ram out first. If you can get DDR3-1700 or so stable, then go for 211 x 19 and see how it goes. X58's respond well to low latency though, at DDR3-1600 6-7-6-18 1T, I'm getting just under DDR3-2000 8-8-8-24 1T results. As triple channel provides so much bandwidth, lower speeds still provide the CPU with ample data. Of course benchmarks will still benefit from highest possible speeds, but for daily use I honestly can't tell the difference and I'm not going to thrash my CPU for what is, to me, an imperceptible gain.
Unfortunately I don't use msn, but I can help as much as I'm able to from here. Good luck and have fun with it.
EDIT - your ram shouldn't get that hot, feel it with the back of your fingers when you run a memory stress test (bootable memtest test 5 is very good) and see how hot it gets. If it's uncomfortable to hold your fingers on, you need a fan. If not I wouldn't be too concerned.
I second that. I couldn't get it totally stable @ 20X217. From time to time i got bsod's out of nowhere. Now @ 21X210 i'm 24/7 stable without the need for crazy qpi volts. Plus now with mem @ 1683mhz i'm able to run them 6-8-6-20 with nice scores.Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
A friend of mine with a DFI UT T3eH8 experiences the same behavior from his 920.
Hi Joe,Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeBar
Could you list all your settings? That would be great so it could help me understand better.
I've gone right back to the drawing board. Starting at 2.8 to determine my lowest vcore and VTT needed and see how far I can push it on that.
Cheers,
RoEy
I am still stuck on the system not waking up after putting into sleep mode. The debug screen shows time and monitor is black screen with no signal when I tries to wake her up. I tried every BIOS I can get on and still no luck. Anyone got an idea how to fix this? Also, how do I check what revision my board is on?
Thanks in advance.
I try the new bios 1802 last time because for me 1504 is very good.
Hi all,
Ok so I went back to the drawing board and determined what my lowest voltage was in order to boot and stress.
Vcore - 1.21875 - (1.208 in CPU-Z)
VTT - 1.25 - I set this so it wouldnt drop below 1.20 - .5v within ram.
VDIMM - 1.65
I have turned all power saving options off, spread spectrums disabled, LLC enabled, turbo, C-tech and C1E disabled, all other voltages are set to auto, including CPU PLL. Memory timings have been put in - 8-8-8-24-1T.
I then set multi to 21x (sod doing 20 again :shocked:), DRAM frequency, UCLK and QPI was set manually and I always kept ram below 1600 depending on BCLK. My aim was to see how far I could push the BCLK at stock voltages, increasing the bclk by 10 after each stress. All testing was done on Prime95 Blend test, 8 threads which I ran for certain periods of time then stopped. Towards the later stages I've used IBT 20 Runs Max Mem too. When I get to 4ghz/4.2 I intend to run Prime for 14-16 hours.
Results so far:
21 x 133 = 2.8Ghz
Prime Stable for 2 hours - Temps - 54 52 53 49
21 x 143 = 3Ghz
Ram = 1433 - 8 8 8 24 - 1T
UCLK = 2866
QPI = 5161
Prime Stable for 1 hour 15 - Temps - 57 53 55 51
21 x 153 = 3.2Ghz
Ram = 1533 - 8 8 8 24 - 1T
UCLK = 3067
QPI = 5242
Prime Stable for 1 hour 15 - Temps - 56 53 55 51
21 x 163 = 3.4Ghz
Ram = 1306 - 8 8 8 24 - 1T
UCLK = 1614
QPI = 5883
Prime Stable for 1 hour 15 - Temps - 58 54 56 52
21 x 173 = 3.6Ghz
Ram = 1387 - 8 8 8 24 - 1T
UCLK = 2775
QPI = 6244
Prime Stable for 2 hours - Temps - 59 56 58 53
21 x 183 = 3.8Ghz
Ram = 1467 - 8 8 8 24 - 1T
UCLK = 2935
QPI = 6605
Prime Stable for 3 hours - Temps - 61 58 60 55
IBT Stable after 20 Max Mem runs 8 thread
Ok, I've noticed that when cpu is 100% load the vcore goes up to 1.25 and the VTT tends to drop to around 1.22-1.24 (Everest and LCD Poster readings).
This is as far as I can push the system at these volts.
I've booted into windows with:
21 x 193, stock voltage but I get a BSOD within a minute of just being on the desktop.
BSOD Error = IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
Tech info = 0x00000000A (0x0000000000008006, etc.......
Now I'm guessing it's either a bump in vcore or vtt or even both. Do I need to set CPU PLL to 1.812 instead of auto also.
I've put loads of effort into this as you can see and now my wife hates me, but I'm so close to 4ghz / 4.2 that I can't stop now.
I'd love to get 4.2.
Hope anyone can help as I've listened to you guys about starting from the bottom and working my way up! lol
Thanks,
RoEy
Where's all the overclocking gurus when you need them?
RoEy
Why do you try to clock both CPU and ram at the same time?
Leave the ram low until you get CPU stable then at least you know where the problem is.
Sorry for the bad english
Ok, I've heard this before but never been sure what to do. So when I take the cpu to 3.8 I should set the ram to lowest speed then? Does that mean I don't do the timings for it also, until I get clock stable?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mydog
What do I set UCLK and QPI, their lowest value also? Shall I do small ftts in Prime then, so it's just testing CPU?
Nothing wrong with your english.
Thanks,
RoEy
I 2nd that. I would also try to stay manual on the main voltages even if set to low defults but Auto is usually not the best options for good overclcks in my experiences on these ASUS ROG mobos as well s in general. Look in the beginning of htis tread to see examples of defults and up gently fro there as needed. particularly in the area of QPI, NB/SB. You may leave RAM in auto during in testing for higher CPU clock then reverse. Set CPU to lower or auto while tweaking RAM then begin to blend the two results. I do this because you may find a certain CPU/RAM divider is not as stable at a given FSB or clock. During CPU and RAM OC test, try to keep 1:1 0r 1:2 for stability.
"My_Two_Cents" hope it can help.
I use the redlines (998692), I am running at stock speeds with them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
Ok, I've dropped ram down to whatever the lowest speed is for that particular bclk and also the uclk so it's double my dram frequency.
I'm now going to raise the bclk and see how far I can push the stock voltage, 1.208, currently sat at 3.9.
I'll test it using small ftts in prime and maybe IBT normal ram use perhaps? Hopefully I'll manage to get to 4.2 then when the cpu is stable I'll push ram upto 1600 and test it all.
I'm not taking ram over 1600 so I always thought I wasn't overclocking before.
Does this sound ok?
RoEy
@ RoEy
Maybe you just picked up a not-well-for-high-overclocking D0 chip.
I've tried so hard for mine too. I have to use it @ 1.4V with LLC Enabled for 200x21 or even 200x20, but only 1.22xxxV for 200x19.
You're on the right track so far. As far as the mobo and ram is concerned, we are overclocking even to use DDR1600 since the Jdec standard is like 1066 or 1333 for most modules. So keep in mind as we up the BCLK we need to up a little at a time to other key items like NB/SB, QPI, VTT, and at times even PCI-E freq. I do believe we need to focus on QPI when also trying to run DDR1600. Hopefully others can help add more fact to this part and how much at a time. I am using 1.35 to 1.40 QPI qith DDR1650 1800. Below is a basic settings for a 920 DO @ 200*20 DDR1600. [as set iin BIOS] = activeQuote:
Originally Posted by RoEy
Voltages
Vcore [1.25625] 1.244 (some may need closer to 1.3v) I have 1 that needs 1.28750 in BIOS
PLL [1.81592] 1.819
QPI [1.26875] 1.230
IOH core [1.17966] 1.177
IOH PCI-E 1.5v [1.52431] 1.521
ICH core [1.17966] 1.177
ICH 1.5v [1.52431] 1.521
DRAM Bus [1.65681] 1.660
DRAM Ref [Auto]
Here's some basic CPU settings;
CPU Configuration
CPU Turbo Power Limit [Disabled]
CPU Ratio [20]
under CPU secion, I disabled all but Intel HTT, and then
Intel HTT [Enabled]
Active Processor Cores [All]
Loadline Cal [Enabled]
BCLK Frequency [200]
PCI-E Frequency [110]
DRAM Frequency [1606MHz] 801.6 MHz x2
UCLK Frequency [3200]
QPI Frequency [Auto]
Can I get some help from one of the regular overclockers here? I want to learn a more in depth usage and control of these settings listed below for my current 200*20 4.0GHz profile but with desire to move to a stable 4.2GHs with parts in Sig.
QPI Frequency = [Auto]
DRAM front to back timing at 1600 ~ 1800MHz [Auto] sets to 0
CPU Differential Amplitude = [Auto]
CPU Voltage Control = [Absolute (VID)]
DRAM Ref [Auto]
CPU Clock Skew = [Auto]
IOH Clock Skew = [Auto]
As for the UCLK Frequency, I set at exactly twince my DRAM ie; 3206, but is there any need or benifit to rais above and if so how much at a time o test?
Also, for the CPU PLL, what kind of tweaking are you regulars upping this above defult? I am sitting at 1.82917 for now, 1 step obove defult.
Aything else you feel I left out, please add.
Thanks Nuckin for your help. I'll do more testing this week and hopefully I'll get to 4.2. I spent ages trying to get 20x200 but the 20 multi was just too unstable. I'd also like to know the answers to some of your questions.
Cheers,
RoEy
Hey Cryptik,
I saw back in post 3594 you had your ram @ over 1000mhz with about 1.3v qpi. What kind of ram are you using? I have a D0 920, R2E (bios 17xx), Gskill Perfect Storm 2000 (8,8,8 version, don't have exact model # in front of me) and have so far been unable to get to 1000. I have gotten to 952 relatively easily, but 1000 remains elusive. After some research, it seemed like it was safe to use 1.65 vqpi without killing anything, so I tried that high, along with several lower voltages. I also tried upping the Vioh, but no luck. No post. I'm at work right now, and won't be in front of my computer for several more hours, so can't post my setting (can't remember off the top of my head). Is hitting 1000mhz with ddr3 2000 kind of a hit and miss kind of thing? Is that usually a limitation of the chipset, ram, or mem controller? Is it a true statement to say Qpi voltage allows higher mem speed, NB volts (can't remember what its called in the bios) allows higher bclk? Thnx!
I am experiencing this on mine too since several BIOS since new. I could use full ACPI S3/S4 modes when RAM is up to and slightly above 1600~1800 but with BCLK closer to stock. But as I climb higher and above BCLK 180 keeping RAM under 1600 for testing, it doesn't stay asleep anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by exe163
Now I changed CPU's to a i7 930 & it enters and remains in suspend modes but locks on resume. I even wen to latest ASUS site BIOS & it crashes less but not reliable enough yet. S4 will lock requiring a reset to resume last session but S3 crashes on resume almost always now.
Let's keep eachother posted on this and see if we can't figure it out since we might be on our own here. I'm thinking it may be a volt tweak needed to cerain area but hopefully one of the more experienced will shine some light on this for us.
I'm using a Corsair Dominator 1866C7GT kit. I think it does seem to be somewhat hit and miss with this board, seems to be easier on some other boards. I had B2B delay still set to 4 as well, didn't seem to make any difference by loosening it off. Higher Vtt (QPI) does help both ram and BCLK, also uncore. vIOH hasn't really helped me much except for stabilizing 218 BCLK - needed around 1.13v IIRC so just a small boost. Both Vtt and vIOH would come into play when pushing higher.Quote:
Originally Posted by DashTrash
Just did a little Linx run now I have my cooling sorted.
4.4 GHz @ 1.256v
http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/w...nningsmall.jpg
nice cpu cryptik ? batch
And Bios vcore.Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
Some of bios settings would be great too.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mydog
Hi extreme people :)
sorry guys for some nobe questions.....
i had a new system running for a month now.R2E Bios 1639 with 920 Do chip on stock HSF,volts etc.first of all with the ambient temp of 32 the cores are 40 38 41 37 on idle with core temp 0.99.5 reading.why is so much difference in between cores,first week and a half the difference was not so much,but now after one and a half month of using the differene is more noticable. is it normal? i notice the Mother Board is little bend on top where the top HS for mosfets.i used lots of asus MB,last one had same problem it bend where the cpu is and on top like this one. did any one had bend problem.is it because all MB are made in china sh**t.this board is in Antec P160 case.
sorry for my bad english.
Thanks it's a 3849B018Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
I don't use LLC. Bios set vcore is 1.37500vQuote:
Originally Posted by Mydog
BIOS settings:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark-Master
vcore = 1.37500
vPLL = 1.81592
Vtt = 1.32500
vdimm = 1.56406v
Skews = Auto
The temp sensors within the CPU aren't accurate until the temperature approaches Tjmax, so some variation between them, especially at idle, is in my opinion normal. Once it gets up to 50 - 60*C, they should be closer together. If they're not you can always adjust the readings in RealTemp.Quote:
Originally Posted by xpower
Mounting the heatsinks on the boards can cause warping, but when bolted into a case it will be flat so I wouldn't be concerned.
i got his brother :DQuote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
i should aim for lower volts i guess lol
thanks cryptik.what cooling?how com yours and zsamz batch are same??????
World Record , check it out !!! Ctrl + to zoom in .http://i470.photobucket.com/albums/r...orldRecord.jpg
It's a completely different board, though...
And it costs like a kidney. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by zalbard
It's on water now. CPU's are made in batches, so there are many in any given batch. Zsamz and I just happened to get ones from the same batch.Quote:
Originally Posted by xpower
Yeah the original X48 Rampage Extreme is such a fun board.Quote:
Originally Posted by pcnazz
:yepp: sadly i sold mine today time to move onQuote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
it was either the rex or the rexII
the cpu was deciding factor
i7 like a bulldozer :ROTF:
I'm still having issues with my d0 and my kingston hyperx ram. My c0 and this ram got along great but ever since i got this d0 it has been a nightmare. I'm at the point now of just buying some different brand and see what happens. Any body else ran into this problem with the kingston hyper x?
that is a strange one, how high do you run it. it's not the ram i think, might be you have the bad proc. have you tried to play the QPI volt.Quote:
Originally Posted by KILLER_K
I already posted this in the 4.5 GHz Linx Stable Club thread, but thought I post it here too. The mosfet sinks initially got extremely hot with just my low speed case fans, so I aborted the initial run and positioned a 92mm fan blowing directly onto the PWM sinks. This kept them only warm to the touch, although the capacitors remained quite hot.
Having PWM cooling sorted, I fired up Linx at 4.5 GHz HT On.
Running 20th loop:
http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/w...20vrunning.jpg
Finished:
http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/w...0vfinished.jpg
nice one Cryptik. would love to see a 930 performance...
Well if i even touch my ram and try to do it normal it crashes. If i do it under specs it runs fine. Ran memtest86+ and everything passed. At this point i'm about ready to give up on it. As it is odd indeed and how would i know if the cpu is at fault?