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09-20-2010, 05:40 PM
pogiman

Nope. I increased vcore to 1.475 and then vtt to 1.36, still no go. I then increased vmch to 1.40 still no go. For this test, I set my mem to 2.1V to be sure they are not the problem. It is the Gskill with powerchips, so imm sure they are not the issue. I am out of ideas for this chip.

On a side note: When increasing vtt and vcore to the above values, it freezes within 1 minute of Linx. Using the values Hoss311 gave allows Linx to run for 5 minutes before locking up. I am now testing it at 4.25vcore and 1.3vtt and so far, it has pass the first run. Could be the cpu getting too hot?

EDIT: Passing 4 runs utilizing 6900MB. 23 minutes without error. I'll do some gaming on it and see if its stable.
09-20-2010, 06:54 PM
NoGuru

So if Hoss's settings are getting you closer, what has changed from your old MIT? Try changing those values one at a time in each direction until you can go longer.
09-21-2010, 12:10 AM
pogiman

Ok Hoss's setting get me through at least 4 passes on linx but I crash in L4D2 within 3 minutes of entering a game. I also had the vcore lowered to 4.25, so it may seem vcore is not holding me back. Could be the vtt since it was at 1.3, however, in my previous tests, I had vtt at 1.5V and it still froze. GTL is always set at 66%. I will give it another go with the new skew settings at the higher voltages.

Some of the files were giving me a CRC error on all the drives. (cannot extract with winrar) It happens on usb drives as well. I am reinstalling windows now. Maybe all the lockups corrupted something? Oh well, more wear and tear on my SSD give me a reason to buy that 600GB SSD in a few years. :)
09-21-2010, 03:13 AM
andressergio

Quote:

Originally Posted by pogiman

Ok Hoss's setting get me through at least 4 passes on linx but I crash in L4D2 within 3 minutes of entering a game. I also had the vcore lowered to 4.25, so it may seem vcore is not holding me back. Could be the vtt since it was at 1.3, however, in my previous tests, I had vtt at 1.5V and it still froze. GTL is always set at 66%. I will give it another go with the new skew settings at the higher voltages.

Some of the files were giving me a CRC error on all the drives. (cannot extract with winrar) It happens on usb drives as well. I am reinstalling windows now. Maybe all the lockups corrupted something? Oh well, more wear and tear on my SSD give me a reason to buy that 600GB SSD in a few years. :)

if it crashes on games after linx its MCH, pump it up to 1,42 and retry---VTT won't help and remember to keep it near vcore

cheers
Sergio
09-21-2010, 09:02 AM
pogiman

Quote:

Originally Posted by andressergio

if it crashes on games after linx its MCH, pump it up to 1,42 and retry---VTT won't help and remember to keep it near vcore

cheers
Sergio

Question: If keep all timing and FSB settings the same and I only adjusted the voltage settings, the GFLOPS change. I thought it was the mobo setting its own internal timings so I did tested it by retstarting and doing a "cold boot." I get the same number again. It is only when i change the voltages, the numbers change. Is this because the mch has its own timings that is adjusted automatically? The residual number remains the same, however.
09-27-2010, 01:02 AM
LiquidReactor

How are the later B and C revisions overclock wise?

Anyone with a sub 1.4V 4.5Ghz 24/7 air stable chip?
09-27-2010, 01:46 AM
OLDcomer

4.5Ghz 24/7 air = not possible
09-27-2010, 04:25 AM
andressergio

Quote:

Originally Posted by OLDcomer

4.5Ghz 24/7 air = not possible

lol my X3380 does 5ghz on air :)

4500 stable at 1,376
09-27-2010, 04:29 AM
andressergio

Quote:

Originally Posted by pogiman

Question: If keep all timing and FSB settings the same and I only adjusted the voltage settings, the GFLOPS change. I thought it was the mobo setting its own internal timings so I did tested it by retstarting and doing a "cold boot." I get the same number again. It is only when i change the voltages, the numbers change. Is this because the mch has its own timings that is adjusted automatically? The residual number remains the same, however.

well depends i had the same situations when wasnt stable...but also some versions of linx did that
09-27-2010, 04:50 AM
OLDcomer

Quote:

Originally Posted by andressergio

lol my X3380 does 5ghz on air :)

4500 stable at 1,376

Well, there is "tiny" difference between running super pi 1MB and 20 LinX loops with 3GB+ memory allocated + 8hr prime95 x64 blend @ priority 10 + a couple of days crunching Rosetta@home for instance. :)

Recently, I bought ga-ep45-ud3p again to give it a chance with my q9650 e0, because last time, 450fsb with the same board but with q9550 c1 was impossible. The result is completely different now:

q9650@4815MHz(9x535) 5.89

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/6132/95238595.th.png
09-27-2010, 07:53 AM
radaja

Quote:

Originally Posted by OLDcomer

Well, there is "tiny" difference between running super pi 1MB and 20 LinX loops with 3GB+ memory allocated + 8hr prime95 x64 blend @ priority 10 + a couple of days crunching Rosetta@home for instance. :)

Recently, I bought ga-ep45-ud3p again to give it a chance with my q9650 e0, because last time, 450fsb with the same board but with q9550 c1 was impossible. The result is completely different now:

q9650@4815MHz(9x535) 5.89

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/6132/95238595.th.png

very nice results:up: quads at 535fsb is such a sweet thing to see:D
09-27-2010, 12:26 PM
LiquidReactor

Quote:

Originally Posted by OLDcomer

4.5Ghz 24/7 air = not possible

Jorbl3r had a chip that could do 4.5 @ 1.35 on air on a crappy HDT air cooler.

Quote:

Originally Posted by andressergio

lol my X3380 does 5ghz on air :)

4500 stable at 1,376

Chilled water or just regular wc?

I've been dying to get my hands on a 4.5Ghz Q9650. Do not want to switch to 1366 just yet because I know UD3Ps / Q9650s so well.
09-28-2010, 02:25 AM
OLDcomer

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiquidReactor

Jorbl3r had a chip that could do 4.5 @ 1.35 on air on a crappy HDT air cooler.
...

4400@1.376V running the motherboard outside the case.
09-28-2010, 05:59 AM
NoGuru

Quote:

Originally Posted by OLDcomer

4400@1.376V running a motherboard outside the case.

I have his Q9650 and it did 4.8 on air, I think it's in my sig.
09-28-2010, 09:57 AM
OLDcomer

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoGuru

I have his Q9650 and it did 4.8 on air, I think it's in my sig.

It did a picture @ 4.8 on air. LiquidReactor is asking about 24/7 system.
09-28-2010, 10:15 AM
E-mil

and here is the air winner :D:D

http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/banner/981831.png

not stable, only CPU-Z verification ;);)
09-28-2010, 11:39 AM
Hoss331

Maybe not the winner but definitely one of the highest air clocks. :up: This is the highest I got mine on air using a S1283/FM122 fan, and if I remember correctly I believe Jor had a run closer to 5ghz with cold air.

http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/banner/509199.png
09-28-2010, 07:34 PM
LiquidReactor

Quote:

Originally Posted by OLDcomer

4400@1.376V running a motherboard outside the case.

He reran it later at 4.5Ghz ~ 1.35V after he ran did couple LN2 benchies with it.
10-06-2010, 12:44 AM
WaterFlex

NoGuru is a lucker :)
10-06-2010, 09:12 AM
NoGuru

Quote:

Originally Posted by WaterFlex

NoGuru is a lucker :)

LOL, thanks! I may be selling it soon though.
10-06-2010, 12:05 PM
MrDucky

if u sell your mobo and want to send it to europe then il be intrested ;)
10-06-2010, 01:17 PM
l0ud_sil3nc3

http://i52.tinypic.com/qzm8ts.png

http://i56.tinypic.com/2m487k9.png

some stability issues:ROTF::rofl::ROTF::rofl:
10-06-2010, 01:29 PM
MrDucky

why it says no errors?
10-06-2010, 05:02 PM
l0ud_sil3nc3

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrDucky

why it says no errors?

I was trying to be sarcastic;)

regardless I think it is funny that this cpu can pass a full week of p95 but can't manage 20 passes of linx:rofl:

either way it has been working great with no problems in any games.
10-07-2010, 08:57 AM
MrDucky

what happens when u linx then?
10-07-2010, 03:13 PM
l0ud_sil3nc3

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrDucky

what happens when u linx then?

with the above settings it reboots before one loop is done. With different refs I have gotten 11 passes complete before a reboot.
10-07-2010, 10:04 PM
OLDcomer

Quote:

Originally Posted by l0ud_sil3nc3

with the above settings it reboots before one loop is done. With different refs I have gotten 11 passes complete before a reboot.

What were the core temperatures and did the fans stop for a few seconds when the system restarted?
10-07-2010, 11:04 PM
l0ud_sil3nc3

Quote:

Originally Posted by OLDcomer

What were the core temperatures and did the fans stop for a few seconds when the system restarted?

yup and then I need to turn off power to the psu or else I get a reboot loop similar to what you would get if you had a failed oc.
10-07-2010, 11:16 PM
OLDcomer

Give it a try with LLC Disabled but with higher vcore to compensate the vdrop.
10-08-2010, 12:56 AM
WaterFlex

l0ud_sil3nc3
nice chip mate :up:
11-11-2010, 02:01 AM
mele

I just got a Q9650 (batch# L017B688) and have it running at 4 Ghz with 1.3 Vcore.
Temps are 52/44/46/47 when folding with SMP on water.

Could I push this to 4.5??

Mel
11-11-2010, 03:42 AM
NoGuru

Quote:

Originally Posted by mele

I just got a Q9650 (batch# L017B688) and have it running at 4 Ghz with 1.3 Vcore.
Temps are 52/44/46/47 when folding with SMP on water.

Could I push this to 4.5??

Mel

Temps look good but your going to have to crank up the volt's to get it to 4.5
might as well try until you top out in temps.
11-11-2010, 03:47 AM
andressergio

Quote:

Originally Posted by l0ud_sil3nc3

http://i52.tinypic.com/qzm8ts.png

http://i56.tinypic.com/2m487k9.png

some stability issues:ROTF::rofl::ROTF::rofl:

jeeeeeze l0ud that prime is longer than the road on your wallpaper :ROTF:

congrats !
11-11-2010, 03:50 AM
andressergio

Quote:

Originally Posted by mele

I just got a Q9650 (batch# L017B688) and have it running at 4 Ghz with 1.3 Vcore.
Temps are 52/44/46/47 when folding with SMP on water.

Could I push this to 4.5??

Mel

mel is that 1,3 for 4000 stable ? you will need to try some volts as NoGuru said

VTT 1,36 / VCORE 1,4+ / MCH 1,46 i dont know EVGA gust GIGA world, and a bit of vdimm on your mem

Good luck
Sergio
11-11-2010, 05:18 AM
PatRaceTin

775 still fun
11-14-2010, 07:55 PM
mele

Quote:

Originally Posted by andressergio

mel is that 1,3 for 4000 stable ? you will need to try some volts as NoGuru said

VTT 1,36 / VCORE 1,4+ / MCH 1,46 i dont know EVGA gust GIGA world, and a bit of vdimm on your mem

Good luck
Sergio

Sergio,

Thanks, I just decided to leave it @ 4G. Using it for folding, so @ just 1.3v it runs cool.

Mel
12-19-2010, 09:03 AM
grishenko45

hey guys, another slight problem here! i'm 20 loops linx stable at the following:
4.365Ghz @ 1.36250 (bios) - cpuz reads - idle 1.352v - load 1.368v
RAM - 970Mhz 1:1 2.1v (stock volts as they're 1066's)
vNB - 1.34v
VTT - 1.32v
LLC on
all spectrums off
0.660 gtl refs 0-4
cpu pll - 1.54v
this is on a p5q deluxe with 2301 bios

it's stable running linx for 20 loops and only hits 76c as it's liquid cooled, but all games are juddering badly like lag on an online game. ive had this before, but a 4ghz/4.1Ghz,
now i'm pretty much overclocking to the chips limits it's getting harder to know what to increase voltage wise.

the northbridge has got the stock heatsink with a 120mm fan blowing over it about 20 cm away on the case panel.

any suggestions?

thanks
12-21-2010, 03:51 AM
NoGuru

Quote:

Originally Posted by grishenko45

hey guys, another slight problem here! i'm 20 loops linx stable at the following:
4.365Ghz @ 1.36250 (bios) - cpuz reads - idle 1.352v - load 1.368v
RAM - 970Mhz 1:1 2.1v (stock volts as they're 1066's)
vNB - 1.34v
VTT - 1.32v
LLC on
all spectrums off
0.660 gtl refs 0-4
cpu pll - 1.54v
this is on a p5q deluxe with 2301 bios

it's stable running linx for 20 loops and only hits 76c as it's liquid cooled, but all games are juddering badly like lag on an online game. ive had this before, but a 4ghz/4.1Ghz,
now i'm pretty much overclocking to the chips limits it's getting harder to know what to increase voltage wise.

the northbridge has got the stock heatsink with a 120mm fan blowing over it about 20 cm away on the case panel.

any suggestions?

thanks

That is about max for the board. If it's stuttering I would turn the OC down a little.
12-21-2010, 01:32 PM
grishenko45

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoGuru

That is about max for the board. If it's stuttering I would turn the OC down a little.

gutted!!!

i know all the other max OC's with the quads are all on gigys ud5/6, but i really wanted to crack 4.4Ghz - was my ultimate goal!

why does it stutter then?

is there nothing i could increase to get 4.365Ghz stable? my vNB was only at 1.34v and the cpu PLL at 1.56v, the vtt was low too.

it passed all linx tests and pumped out more gflops than i've ever got.
12-22-2010, 03:52 AM
NoGuru

Quote:

Originally Posted by grishenko45

gutted!!!

i know all the other max OC's with the quads are all on gigys ud5/6, but i really wanted to crack 4.4Ghz - was my ultimate goal!

why does it stutter then?

is there nothing i could increase to get 4.365Ghz stable? my vNB was only at 1.34v and the cpu PLL at 1.56v, the vtt was low too.

it passed all linx tests and pumped out more gflops than i've ever got.

As long as you have good air flow crank the NB volts up a bit they will help you a lot.
12-22-2010, 10:26 AM
grishenko45

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoGuru

As long as you have good air flow crank the NB volts up a bit they will help you a lot.

i've got a 120mm fan on the case side panel blowing over the mobo and NB, when i bench and do linx/prime/game i crank up the fan speeds so theres quite a bit of air flowing onto the NB - i'll try 1.4v. safe for 24/7?
12-24-2010, 07:26 AM
NoGuru

Quote:

Originally Posted by grishenko45

i've got a 120mm fan on the case side panel blowing over the mobo and NB, when i bench and do linx/prime/game i crank up the fan speeds so theres quite a bit of air flowing onto the NB - i'll try 1.4v. safe for 24/7?

I think it is safe as long as the temps are good.
01-26-2011, 11:31 PM
Ableur

Hi all, I'm thinking about buying a GA-EP45-UD3P.
(I have a Q9650 no o/c, I'm going to start with my X38ds5 but it's going to suxx I think...)

Anyway, I would like to know if there is a better rev on this motherboard ? (rev1 to 1.6)

Thanks:)
01-26-2011, 11:51 PM
OCBalmang

Honestly rev 1.0 was the best but, you could buy an ep45T-usb3p do 530fsb on ddr3 ram. Giving you better bandwidth.
02-03-2011, 07:30 PM
LiquidReactor

Hey guys, possibly found a great Q9650.

Batch # L828A446 and VID 1.1375. Seller said he got it to 4.2 at 1.25 on water.
02-04-2011, 06:07 AM
OLDcomer

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiquidReactor

Hey guys, possibly found a great Q9650.

Batch # L828A446 and VID 1.1375. Seller said he got it to 4.2 at 1.25 on water.

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1554895 ?:)
02-04-2011, 10:30 AM
papatsonis

Quote:

Originally Posted by OCBalmang

Honestly rev 1.0 was the best but, you could buy an ep45T-usb3p do 530fsb on ddr3 ram. Giving you better bandwidth.

any eshop from EU which has stock? , due to having already purchased the ram for sandybridge upgrade.. (canceled the rest..) i want to try my Q9650 with a P45 DDR3 board.
EP45T-USB3P or EP45T-UD3P wanted :D
02-04-2011, 12:02 PM
LiquidReactor

Quote:

Originally Posted by OLDcomer

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1554895 ?:)

Yup, cant wait to see what it can do :shocked:
02-04-2011, 02:18 PM
Hoss331

Guys im thinking about selling my q9650 and am curious what you think these chips are worth nowadays.
02-06-2011, 06:34 AM
NoGuru

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoss331

Guys im thinking about selling my q9650 and am curious what you think these chips are worth nowadays.

I think they pull about $200-$250.

Knowing your chip I think you can still get close to $250 for yours.
02-08-2011, 07:00 PM
LiquidReactor

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoss331

Guys im thinking about selling my q9650 and am curious what you think these chips are worth nowadays.

Depends on the batch and oc ability. Start at $200 and go north if its really good chip.
02-08-2011, 08:00 PM
LiquidReactor

Quick PK1 application and first boot with new Q9650. Bios Voltage - 1.4V, Termination 1.36V. Runs super hot even under my HD-D14 with two 150cfm Deltas :eek:

Batch # L828A446 - same as andressergio and nkreshno Q9650, I believe.

http://i465.photobucket.com/albums/r...g?t=1297223928
02-08-2011, 11:28 PM
l0ud_sil3nc3

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiquidReactor

Quick PK1 application and first boot with new Q9650. Bios Voltage - 1.4V, Termination 1.36V. Runs super hot even under my HD-D14 with two 150cfm Deltas :eek:

Batch # L828A446 - same as andressergio and nkreshno Q9650, I believe.

I have nkresho's old chip and it is a L847C batch, so not quite the same one as you however you have a lower VID, mine is 1.15.
02-09-2011, 09:16 AM
LiquidReactor

Quote:

Originally Posted by l0ud_sil3nc3

I have nkresho's old chip and it is a L847C batch, so not quite the same one as you however you have a lower VID, mine is 1.15.

nvm, I got your (nkreshno) chip confused since I looked up that batch number very recently.

Speaking of CPU PLL voltage, it doesn't really do much for stability but going high, 1.65V doesn't hurt, right?
02-14-2011, 08:40 PM
LiquidReactor

Finally got 4.5Ghz with 8Gb of Tridents chugging away @ 1200Mhz. Can run Prime 95 blend (128k - 4048k fft) all day with 6.8Gb of ram but small fft keeps freezing up on me. Amazing chip, only need 1.4V BIOS for 4.5Ghz so far.

I am thinking I should push CCPU Clock Drive to 900mv in ACC, because currently its 800mv.

My settings:

Code:

******************************************************* MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.) ******************************************************* Robust Graphics Booster ..............: Auto CPU Clock Ratio ......................: 9x CPU Frequency ........................: 4.50GHz (500x9) ************** Clock Chip Control ************** >>>>>> Standard Clock Control CPU Host Clock Control................: Enabled CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) .............: 500 PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) ..........: 100 C.I.A.2 ..............................: Disabled >>>>>> Advanced Clock Control.........: [Press Enter] CPU Clock Drive.......................: 800 mV PCI Express Clock Drive...............: 800 mV CPU Clock Skew (ps)...................: 0ps MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: 50ps *********** DRAM Performance Control *********** Performance Enhance...................: Turbo (G)MCH Frequency Latch................: Auto System Memory Multiplier .............: 2.40B Memory Frequency (Mhz) ...............: 1200 DRAM Timing Selectable ...............: Manual >>>>>> Standard Timing Control CAS Latency Time......................: 5 tRCD .................................: 5 tRP...................................: 5 tRAS..................................: 15 >>>>>> Advanced Timing Control........: [Press Enter] tRRD..................................: Auto tWTR..................................: Auto tWR...................................: Auto tRFC..................................: 68 tRTP..................................: Auto Command Rate (CMD) ...................:Auto >>>>>> Channel A Timing Settings......: [Press Enter] Static tRead Value....................: 8 tRD Phase0 Adjustment.................:Auto tRD Phase1 Adjustment.................:Auto tRD Phase2 Adjustment ................: Auto tRD Phase3 Adjustment.................: Auto Trd2rd(Different Rank)................: Auto Twr2wr(Different Rank)................: Auto Twr2rd(Different Rank)................: Auto Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)................: Auto Dimm1 Clock Skew Control (ps).........: Auto Dimm2 Clock Skew Control (ps).........: Auto DDR Write Training....................: Auto >>>>>> Channel A Driving Settings.....: [Press Enter] Driving Strength Profile..............: OC 1200 Data Driving Pull-Up Level............: Auto Cmd Driving Pull-Up level.............: Auto Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level............: Auto Clk Driving Pull-Up Level.............: Auto Data Driving Pull-Down Level..........: Auto Cmd Driving Pull-Down level...........: Auto Ctrl Driving Pull-Down Level..........: Auto Clk Driving Pull-Down Level...........: Auto >>>>>> Channel B Timing Settings......: [Press Enter] Static tRead Value....................: 8 tRD Phase0 Adjustment.................: Auto tRD Phase1 Adjustment.................: Auto tRD Phase2 Adjustment ................: Auto tRD Phase3 Adjustment.................: Auto Trd2rd(Different Rank)................: Auto Twr2wr(Different Rank)................: Auto Twr2rd(Different Rank)................: Auto Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)................: Auto Dimm1 Clock Skew Control (ps).........: Auto Dimm2 Clock Skew Control (ps).........: Auto DDR Write Training....................: Auto >>>>>> Channel B Driving Settings.....: [Press Enter] Driving Strength Profile..............: OC 1200 Data Driving Pull-Up Level............: Auto Cmd Driving Pull-Up level.............: Auto Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level............: Auto Clk Driving Pull-Up Level.............: Auto Data Driving Pull-Down Level..........: Auto Cmd Driving Pull-Down level...........: Auto Ctrl Driving Pull-Down Level..........: Auto Clk Driving Pull-Down Level...........: Auto ********* Motherboard Voltage Control ********* Voltage Types...........Normal..........Current ----------------------------------------------- >>>>>> CPU Load-Line Calibration.................: Disabled CPU Vcore..............1.31250v.......: 1.40V CPU Termination........1.200v.........: 1.32V CPU PLL................1.500v.........: 1.57V CPU Reference..........0.780v.........: 0.836 >>>>>> MCH/ICH MCH Core...............1.100v.........: 1.440V MCH Reference..........0.800v.........: 0.928 MCH/DRAM Ref...........0.900v.........: Normal ICH I/O................1.500v.........: Normal ICH Core...............1.100v.........: Normal >>>>>> DRAM DRAM Voltage...........1.800v.........: 2.0400V DRAM Termination.......0.900v.........: Normal Channel A Reference....0.900v.........: Normal Channel B Reference....0.900v.........: Normal
02-14-2011, 08:47 PM
Hoss331

You might want to raise your vtt up a notch, the 1.32 vtt setting doesnt work right its really the same voltage as the 1.30 setting.
02-14-2011, 08:59 PM
LiquidReactor

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoss331

You might want to raise your vtt up a notch, the 1.32 vtt setting doesnt work right its really the same voltage as the 1.30 setting.

Already tried that, Priming with 900mV drive strength at 1.39375 Vcore, 1.32 vtt. If 1.32 vtt doesn't work then what does 1.34vtt set the voltage to, 1.32V actual?
02-14-2011, 09:10 PM
Hoss331

Sorta yea, the voltages 1.30 and lower generally have a slight overvolt and 1.34+ start undervolting some. 1.30 is really like 1.31 and 1.34 is like 1.33. And as for the drive strengths I never saw them make a difference in stability so I kept them at default 800/900, unless benching.
02-14-2011, 09:30 PM
LiquidReactor

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoss331

Sorta yea, the voltages 1.30 and lower generally have a slight overvolt and 1.34+ start undervolting some. 1.30 is really like 1.31 and 1.34 is like 1.33. And as for the drive strengths I never saw them make a difference in stability so I kept them at default 800/900, unless benching.

Ok, thanks for the info :)

BTW, what's the VID and batch # on your Q9650?
02-14-2011, 10:11 PM
Hoss331

L827a945 1.15
02-17-2011, 11:40 PM
LiquidReactor

Nearing on total 4.5Ghz stability on air. ACC does help a little bit, at least from my experience with my older Q9650, 800 > 900mv was equivalent of bumping vcore one notch.

ACC : 900/800/0/50
Cpu Vcore : 1.3975V
Cpu Term : 1.34
PLL : 1.57
Term Ref. : 0.836

Mch Core : 1.44
Mch Ref. : 0.916
Dram Voltage : 2.06

http://i465.photobucket.com/albums/r...0Mb_Stable.jpg
02-18-2011, 02:41 AM
In-Fluence

That's a lovely low vcore for that speed - nice chip! You gonna bench it or at least try for higher fsb?
02-18-2011, 03:36 AM
OLDcomer

In the club (5GHz)

CPU-Z 5GHz

Cinebench R11
Q9650@4950MHz 6.04pts
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/3838/cine550.th.jpg
02-18-2011, 04:25 AM
In-Fluence

Good clock oldcomer! I'm tempted to have another stab with my old Q9650 - snag is I only have the USB3P to run it on. I'm sure it'll be great for benching pi32m but don't know if this board can push as well as my UD3P rev1.6 (which now has another home). I guess trying won't harm it although it'll be on air (with lots of big fans) if I do. I think I need a pot and some LN2, but sounds too expensive for what it's worth....
02-18-2011, 09:10 AM
LiquidReactor

Quote:

Originally Posted by In-Fluence

That's a lovely low vcore for that speed - nice chip! You gonna bench it or at least try for higher fsb?

Only had it for a week so far but definitely going to push it to the limit. Once I get water, say 4.8Ghz 24/7 stable :D

Got 4.5Ghz Blend stable ( 8k - 4096k fft, 6200mb). Ambient temps were a bit higher then usual because of the really warm weather here. Thanks to Jorbl3r and his Q9650 4.5Ghz settings, I was having some issue with large fft stability, plugged in his numbers for Mch Core and Mch Ref and bam..no problem.

ACC : 900/800/0/50
Cpu Vcore : 1.3975V
Cpu Term : 1.34
PLL : 1.57
Term Ref. : 0.873

Mch Core : 1.42
Mch Ref. : 0.888
Dram Voltage : 2.06

http://i465.photobucket.com/albums/r...0Mb_Stable.jpg
02-21-2011, 10:57 AM
LiquidReactor

Trying to push the chip to 4.55 but I keep getting restart / freeze issues. Should I increase MCH Clock Skew to 100ps from 50ps?
02-21-2011, 12:59 PM
Hoss331

Try upping the cpu skew 50ps, that was what solved that problem for me at those speeds.
02-22-2011, 07:38 PM
LiquidReactor

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoss331

Try upping the cpu skew 50ps, that was what solved that problem for me at those speeds.

:( too early for that turns out. Just need to tinker with Cpu Termination and Mch Core / Ref values a bit more.
02-24-2011, 05:24 AM
roger_h99.nor

L036B363 (no hits on Google!)
VID 1.2625 (CoreTemp)

Chip must have 1.31 to be P95 (small FFT) 4G stable.

Probably limited by my MB (P35)
03-16-2011, 09:05 AM
Q6600

can someone help me get my q9650 stable @ 3.8ghz??

My mobo is an asus x38 ddr3 maximus extreme! I run my cpu 24/7 @ 3.6ghz 400x9 with NB temp at 32C idle but 3.8ghz makes my NB hot reaches 50C (altough cooled with an antec spot cool)

to get the mobo stable at 3.8ghz i have to pump 1.7+volts to my NB less than that it is unstable in gaming. FSB VTT is at 1.4v, CPU PPL 1.6v, CPU core 1.3v and Loadline Calibartion enabled is a must to eliminate vdroop!!

I use the corsair h70 with push/pull stock fans to cool my cpu :) As for the TIM i use the AC MX4!

My Q9650 Retail box!

http://i54.tinypic.com/20u3ddk.jpg

My Current OC @ 3.6GHZ - 2hrs Prime95 stable, OCCT 1hr stable

http://i53.tinypic.com/fk8vtj.jpg
03-16-2011, 12:27 PM
OCBalmang

Your v core is way too low, and if you have the north bridge any higher than 1.58 you risk motherboard damage, your pll is not proper either I think I used 1.65 sometimes more, try also please list what timings your using on the ram, and just to be honest you should be using a q9650 on a p45 board to get its full potential out. I hope some of my input help as I've seen the worst of the batches do better than what you've provided you'll need to increase your v core to 1.42 if it works from there lower the v core by two or three intervals until it isn't stable.
03-16-2011, 02:14 PM
Q6600

so you mean i need to set vcore to 1.42 for 3.8GHZ? isn`t cpu pll 1.65v too much for 45nm cpu? as for my northbridge it needs 1.7volts less than this it is unstable! My ddr3 ram is corsair DHX 1600mhz 9-9-9-24 stock timings 1.8v

Here are my current BIOS settings on my asus maximux extreme mobo..bios is v1302

3.8GHZ 430x9 Overclock settings

CPU Ratio Setting 9
FSB Frequency 430
FSB Strap to North Bridge Auto
PCIE Frequency 100

DRAM Timing Control Manual
DRAM Frequency DDR3-1720
DRAM Command Rate 1T

CAS# Latency 7
RAS# to CAS# Delay 7
RAS# Precharge 7
RAS# Active Time 20
RAS# to RAS# Delay Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time Auto
Write Recovery Time Auto
Read to Precharge Time Auto

Read To Write Delay(S/D) Auto
Write to Read Delay(S) Auto
Write to Read Delay(D) Auto
Read To Read Delay(S) Auto
Read To Read Delay(D) Auto
Write To Write Delay(S) Auto
Write To Write Delay(D) Auto

DRAM Static Read Control Disabled
DRAM Dynamic Write Control Disabled

Ai Clock Twister Strong
Ai Clock Skew for Channel A Auto
Ai Clock Skew for Channel B Auto
Ai Transaction Booster Enabled
Boost Level 3

CPU Voltage 1.325 Actual reading > 1.304
CPU PLL Voltage 1.6 Actual reading > 1.664
North Bridge Voltage 1.8 Actual Reading > 1.792
DRAM Voltage 2.0 Actual Reading > 2.032
FSB Termination Voltage 1.4 Actual Reading > 1.312
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 Actual Reading > 1.104
Loadline Calibration Enabled
CPU GTL Reference 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference 0.67x
DDR3 Channel A REF Voltage Auto
DDR3 Channel B REF Voltage Auto
DDR3 Controller REF Voltage Auto
SB 1.5 Voltage Auto

CPU Spread Spectrum Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum Disabled

UPDATED!
03-16-2011, 10:35 PM
OCBalmang

Something you should know 2.0 vdram is considered suicide on air , secondly you should consider I have stabilized many systems and set fires to enough systems to know what's safe and what's damaging. Your northbridge/mch is too high I don't even use that much for liquid nitrogen. Secondly you must read this whole section pages 1 to the end or don't bother overlooking unless you have the money to throw around or you could damage everything you have with the voltages your using....

Wanted to add something else yorkfield based chips can die to termination being 1.38 or higher your playing in danger atm..
03-16-2011, 10:58 PM
Q6600

well 2.0v on this ram is ok according to corsair (ramguy) but 2.1v is the absolute maximum! as for my x38 chipset it is well known that it needs juice to stay stable and i saw people running this mobo on 1.7v red zone volts in the bios and according to intel spec this chipset temp limit is 90C and i never reached that much temp. the most i reach is 50c (cooled with antec spot cool) with with 1.7v when you say you dont even use that much voltage for LN i dont beleive you sorry remember x38 get hot soon and needs volts at high fsb :)
03-17-2011, 12:27 AM
OCBalmang

You could very well be right since its x38 and all of us with q9650 or the extreme version used p45 ud3p motherboards to achieve great clocks. But honestly you really should go to p 45 if your having trouble with 425 fsb or greater . My qx9650 which I sold for its full retail cost because of what it could do, used ud3p mobo and could do 530 fsb with low termination and low volts ran very cool :) maybe you should consider it.
03-17-2011, 12:41 AM
Q6600

Quote:

Originally Posted by OCBalmang

You could very well be right since its x38 and all of us with q9650 or the extreme version used p45 ud3p motherboards to achieve great clocks. But honestly you really should go to p 45 if your having trouble with 425 fsb or greater . My qx9650 which I sold for its full retail cost because of what it could do, used ud3p mobo and could do 530 fsb with low termination and low volts ran very cool :) maybe you should consider it.

I tried to buy the ga-ep45t-ud3p p45 ddr3 mobo but it is discontinued! i heard that gigabyte will bring out new p45 ddr3 mobo in q2 2011

question: which is the best for OC the q9650? p45 under ddr2 or ddr3?
03-23-2011, 07:45 AM
X4er0

Well i jumped on the bandwagon and my batch is L037B486 with VID 1.30000.

I clocked it stable on 4050MHz, 60 degrees on load, cooling is a lapped TRUE 120.

Gonna go for 42xxish for 24/7 and than i'm a happy boy!!!

edit: nope, my ram is the limiting factor, on 460 it crashed and it isn't the power, i even tried 2.0Volt on my RAM and no difference. So now it is 4050MHz, well it does 57Gflops in IBT on 4050MHz, i see people with 4200MHz and they have 58Gflops.
04-08-2011, 10:39 AM
Q6600

I bought a second hand gigabyte ga-ep45t-ud3p p45 ddr3 mobo from ebay and it`s on it`s way to me! I will be using a pair of 2x2gb corsair xms3 dhx ddr3 1600 9-9-9-24 1.8v stock timings on the board. anyone knows if my ram will be good for overclocking with my q9650 on the ga-ep45t-ud3p? i did not opted for the ga-ep45-ud3p cause it is ddr2 and i have ddr3 ram atm. Is it true that the ga-ep45t-ud3p is picky on ddr3 ram?
04-08-2011, 01:35 PM
NoGuru

Quote:

Originally Posted by Q6600

I bought a second hand gigabyte ga-ep45t-ud3p p45 ddr3 mobo from ebay and it`s on it`s way to me! I will be using a pair of 2x2gb corsair xms3 dhx ddr3 1600 9-9-9-24 1.8v stock timings on the board. anyone knows if my ram will be good for overclocking with my q9650 on the ga-ep45t-ud3p? i did not opted for the ga-ep45-ud3p cause it is ddr2 and i have ddr3 ram atm. Is it true that the ga-ep45t-ud3p is picky on ddr3 ram?

Should work fine, just going to have to run it in 2T.
04-08-2011, 09:34 PM
Q6600

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoGuru

Should work fine, just going to have to run it in 2T.

right now on my asus maximus extreme i run them at @ 1600mhz 7-6-6-20 1T..so the gigabyte ga-ep45t-ud3p should too
04-11-2011, 12:40 AM
X4er0

Quote:

Originally Posted by Q6600

right now on my asus maximus extreme i run them at @ 1600mhz 7-6-6-20 1T..so the gigabyte ga-ep45t-ud3p should too

Only way to find out is to try it out, is it a new Q9650 like mine, i bought mine couple of weeks ago, production date end 2010 with a high VID, i can't get mine over 4200MHz, i even bought new ram (dominator GT 2000MHz).

My proc needs in bios 1.49Volt but temps are not extreme, in IBT on 100% load it rises up to 67 degrees celsius.
04-11-2011, 05:59 AM
Q6600

my q9650 pack date is: 5/3/2010 with 1.2250 vid batch # L009B453 and bought it 9months ago
04-11-2011, 06:03 AM
Q6600

Quote:

Originally Posted by X4er0

Only way to find out is to try it out, is it a new Q9650 like mine, i bought mine couple of weeks ago, production date end 2010 with a high VID, i can't get mine over 4200MHz, i even bought new ram (dominator GT 2000MHz).

My proc needs in bios 1.49Volt but temps are not extreme, in IBT on 100% load it rises up to 67 degrees celsius.

your gigabyte mobo uses ultra durable 2 and does not have a 2oz copper pcb maybe you need a better board like my soon to come gigabyte GA-EP45T-UD3P which uses a 2oz copper pcb and uses ultra durable 3 technology which helps keep the board cooler
04-19-2011, 04:11 AM
X4er0

Quote:

Originally Posted by Q6600

your gigabyte mobo uses ultra durable 2 and does not have a 2oz copper pcb maybe you need a better board like my soon to come gigabyte GA-EP45T-UD3P which uses a 2oz copper pcb and uses ultra durable 3 technology which helps keep the board cooler

Yeah but i guess i'm done clocking on this one, 4200 is enough for gaming and ingame it gets 55-58 degrees max (temps are different cores) and i won't gain nothing much extra for going higher as in 4300 or 4400 for 24/7.

My next PC will get his ass kicked and will run like a b***h for 24/7, going for watercooling i guess.
04-19-2011, 09:44 AM
Q6600

Quote:

Originally Posted by X4er0

Yeah but i guess i'm done clocking on this one, 4200 is enough for gaming and ingame it gets 55-58 degrees max (temps are different cores) and i won't gain nothing much extra for going higher as in 4300 or 4400 for 24/7.

My next PC will get his ass kicked and will run like a b***h for 24/7, going for watercooling i guess.

Yeah man..4.2ghz is plenty and very high OC..I won`t OC past 4.2ghz IMO
04-20-2011, 04:15 AM
railmeat

Quote:

Originally Posted by X4er0

Yeah but i guess i'm done clocking on this one, 4200 is enough for gaming and ingame it gets 55-58 degrees max (temps are different cores) and i won't gain nothing much extra for going higher as in 4300 or 4400 for 24/7.

My next PC will get his ass kicked and will run like a b***h for 24/7, going for watercooling i guess.

socket 775..so dated..:shrug:..................i7 ftw.

Call of Duty: Black Ops GPU & CPU Performance In-depth

"Black Ops on the other hand saw a massive 78% increase in performance when clocking our Core i7 processor from 2.0GHz up to 4.0GHz, and we continued to see a performance increase right up to the maximum tested frequency. Both the minimum and average frame rates were affected, suggesting that users who are in need of better performance will want to overclock their processor for this game."

http://www.techspot.com/review/336-c...nce/page7.html
04-21-2011, 01:19 AM
X4er0

Quote:

Originally Posted by railmeat

socket 775..so dated..:shrug:..................i7 ftw.

Call of Duty: Black Ops GPU & CPU Performance In-depth

"Black Ops on the other hand saw a massive 78% increase in performance when clocking our Core i7 processor from 2.0GHz up to 4.0GHz, and we continued to see a performance increase right up to the maximum tested frequency. Both the minimum and average frame rates were affected, suggesting that users who are in need of better performance will want to overclock their processor for this game."

http://www.techspot.com/review/336-c...nce/page7.html

I'm not going to build a whole new PC for a couple of current games, i'm going to pass on the X58 en X78, wait 2 generations before i build a new PC, that's FTW!!!
06-25-2011, 06:07 AM
NoGuru

Thinking about selling mine. It's J0r3lbr's old chip.
06-25-2011, 07:08 AM
E-mil

Send it to me.

I'll take good care of him :yepp:
06-25-2011, 11:39 AM
l0ud_sil3nc3

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoGuru

Thinking about selling mine. It's J0r3lbr's old chip.

I have nkresho's old chip and I too have thought about selling it, but I know as soon as I do I will be wanting another one:D

I think my chip as about as nice as yours, 1.34v actual for prime95 blend at 4.5
07-26-2011, 07:02 PM
Razmatazz

Hey guys, I could use some good old X48 advice. My CPU is a QX9770. I just installed 8GB of Corsair RAM (1600C8). My motherboard is the P5E3 Premium. As you may know, this board is quite picky with regard to settings. Currently the RAM is running at 1280MHz, however, it is rated to 1600MHz. FSB is 400 (default for this CPU) and CPU multiplier is 9.0 giving 3.6 GHz. I have been trying to increase the memory speed by upping the FSB. I have backed off on the CPU multiplier when the FSB has been increased. LinX is stable, and SuperPi is stable. However, at even FSB 420, I run into errors in Prime 95 at about 7-8 minutes. I have tried increasing the CPU voltage as well as the NB voltage to no avail. It continues to act exactly the same each time when the FSB is increased. What would you recommend that I change in order to get things more stable? It seems like it shouldn't be all that hard to overcome this, but I'm at a loss here. Thanks in advance.
01-02-2013, 05:46 AM
OLDcomer

While benching for the CountryCup 2012, I've managed to set a new record so it's time to bring up this old thread.

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/4...perxptrefo.jpg

http://static.hwbot.org/images/cup-gold.png Q9650@4995MHz SuperPi 32m 9min 18sec 766ms
01-02-2013, 06:07 AM
CryptiK

Damn nice work!

I miss my golden Q9650 :(
01-26-2013, 01:24 PM
LiquidReactor

I'm back to testing my Q9650 while I'm moving to an Ivy Rig and it appears that the vcore selected in bios does not match the actual voltage supplied to the chip.

I'm monitoring power consumption through everest and now my computer shuts down at 235 Watts instead of its usual 210-215 W max in the past. Only reason I can think of is the mobo is no longer delivering as much voltage as shown in cpuz / selected in bios.
02-01-2013, 06:40 AM
Gaul

q9650 @ 4.5 GH v 1.425

http://i49.tinypic.com/sxna78.jpg
02-02-2013, 10:32 PM
Gaul

Q 9650 @ 4.6 GH

http://i45.tinypic.com/w7j5gz.jpg

http://i45.tinypic.com/2i6m068.jpg
02-02-2013, 11:38 PM
l0ud_sil3nc3

^that is an awesome chip Gaul, what kind of cooling?
02-03-2013, 01:15 AM
Gaul

Quote:

Originally Posted by l0ud_sil3nc3

^that is an awesome chip Gaul, what kind of cooling?

thx, CORSAIR H100 with 4 FAN

MAX CLOCK with safety volt 1.456 ( i quess )
http://i48.tinypic.com/o9e9ec.jpg
02-03-2013, 01:24 AM
Gaul

http://i50.tinypic.com/2rg1ax4.jpg

http://i45.tinypic.com/2u59ulw.jpg
01-13-2017, 05:26 PM
b1tphr34k

Memory clock help?

You guy shave done a LOT with this chip since i last checked things out. I've been running at 4.05GHz on a COrsair hydro since I last touched my bios with i think was 2011!.

I decided my last effort was going to be trying to take advantage of the memory clock abilities now that memory nativley hits 2400. So I picked up some Viper pc3-19200 (pv38g240c1k) 2400MHz 11-13-13-31 but i'm having some trouble getting it to run at anything beyond the last clock I had my slower kensington hyperx running at. here's my config. Hoping someone might be able to help me get this figured out.

Code:

GIGABYTE GA-EP45T_USB3P [u]MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.) Robust Graphics Booster ...............: FAST CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 9X Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:0.0 CPU Frequency ...........................: 4.05GHz GHz Clock Chip Control Standard Clock Control CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled] [] CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............:450Mhz PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:100Mhz C.I.A. 2.............................:[Disabled] Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter] CPU Clock Drive...........................:800 mv PCI Express Clock Drive...................: 900mv CPU Clock Skew (ps).......................: 0ps MCH Clock Skew (ps).......................: 0ps DRAM Performance Control Performance Enhance....................: [TURBO] Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.)........: disabled (G)MCH Frequency Latch.................: [400] System Memory Multiplier ..............:3.33D Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1500Mhz DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual] [] Standard Timing Control CAS Latency Time...............................: 8 tRCD ..........................................: 8 tRP...........................................: 8 tRAS...........................................: 24 Advanced Timing Control [Press Enter] tRRD...........................................:AUTO tWTR...........................................: AUTO tWR............................................: AUTO tRFC...........................................: AUTO tRTP...........................................: AUTO Command Rate (CMD) ............................: AUTO Channel A Channel A Timings Settings [Press Enter] Static tRead Value......................:Auto tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto Trd2rd(Different Rank)..................:Auto Twr2wr(Different Rank)..................:Auto Twr2rd(Different Rank)..................:Auto Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto Dimm1 Clock Skew Control................:Auto ps Dimm2 Clock Skew Control................:Auto ps Channel A Driving Settings [Press Enter] Driving Strength Profile:[AUTO] Data Driving Pull-Up Level.............:Auto Cmd Driving Pull-Up Level..............:Auto Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level.............:Auto Clk Driving Pull-Up Level..............:Auto Data Driving Pull-Down Level...........:Auto Cmd Driving Pull-Down Level............:Auto Ctrl Driving Pull-Down Level...........:Auto Clk Driving Pull-Down Level............:Auto Channel B Channel B Timings Settings [Press Enter] Static tRead Value......................:Auto tRD Phase0 Adjustmen...................:Auto tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto Trd2rd(Different Rank)..................:Auto Twr2wr(Different Rank)..................:Auto Twr2rd(Different Rank)..................:Auto Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto Dimm1 Clock Skew Control................:Auto ps Dimm2 Clock Skew Control................:Auto ps Channel B Driving Settings [Press Enter] Driving Strength Profile:[AUTO] Data Driving Pull-Up Level.............:Auto Cmd Driving Pull-Up Level..............:Auto Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level.............:Auto Clk Driving Pull-Up Level..............:Auto Data Driving Pull-Down Level...........:Auto Cmd Driving Pull-Down Level............:Auto Ctrl Driving Pull-Down Level...........:Auto Clk Driving Pull-Down Level............:Auto {U]Motherboard Voltage Control{/U] Load Line Callibration.........................:Enabled CPU Vcore….???...........................:1.29375v CPU Termination…...... 1.200V*...........: 1.260 CPU PLL…??????.........1.500V*...........: 1.5000v MCH/ICH CPU Reference.??????.........1.500V*...........: 0.823 MCH Core…????..........1.100V............: AUTO MCH Reference..…...?.?.0.800V............; AUTO ICH I/O…???....??......1.550V............: AUTO DRAM DRAM Voltage …?........1.500V............: AUTO DRAM Termination ...…..0.900V............: AUTO Channel A Data Vref ...0.75V.............: AUTO Channel B Data Vref ...0.750V............: AUTO Channel A Address Vref 0.75V.............: AUTO Channel B Address Vref 0.750V............: AUTO [b]{U]Advanced Settings[b]{U] Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled] No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled] CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled] C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled] x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled] CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled] CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled] Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled] Note: * refers to 45nm CPU

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