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09-06-2006, 08:35 PM
TheMeatFrog

Wow it sucks seeing people having these problems with the DS3 and D9...

Guess I just got lucky

http://img304.imageshack.us/img304/8...21880mr.th.jpg

500MHz 4-4-4-12 Dual 32M on DS3 w/F4 Bios
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/2...d32mpo7.th.png
09-06-2006, 08:39 PM
Phosphate

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMeatFrog

Wow it sucks seeing people having these problems with the DS3 and D9...

Guess I just got lucky

http://img304.imageshack.us/img304/8...21880mr.th.jpg

500MHz 4-4-4-12 Dual 32M on DS3 w/F4 Bios
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/2...d32mpo7.th.png

What CPU are you using?

Is it a e6300?
09-06-2006, 08:40 PM
TheMeatFrog

Indeed it is
09-06-2006, 09:50 PM
ZachSaw

Quote:

Originally Posted by GAM

Resetting itself to backup bios, maybe? I did see someone else post a similar if not same problem. Don't recall where though, sorry.

Shouldn't be the backup bios running since my bios settings are still intact. I'm running a Pentium XE 955 ES, so it'll default to a multi of 12x when it's running backup bios. Multi is supposed to be 13 for stock frequency at 266MHz FSB. I'm waiting for my Conroe, so this system is not overclocked yet.
09-06-2006, 10:07 PM
johnsally

nevermind F5 did not help at all
09-07-2006, 12:13 AM
BiOvOrE

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Dower

I see DQ6 owners are getting screwed once again...no bios for us!

And how exactly are we DQ6 users getting screwed again??

Ahh, that's right, because YOU can't get YOUR system running properly...:rolleyes:

There're plenty of DQ6 users who haven't had a single problem with their board.
09-07-2006, 12:36 AM
Darkoz

Quote:

Originally Posted by BiOvOrE

And how exactly are we DQ6 users getting screwed again??

Ahh, that's right, because YOU can't get YOUR system running properly...:rolleyes:

There're plenty of DQ6 users who haven't had a single problem with their board.

Exactly, I sometimes suspect that some are expecting far too much, if it can't overclock to 500fsb then it's immediately assumed that something's wrong with the board.
09-07-2006, 01:15 AM
GAM

I'd agree, except there ARE issues with the DQ6 that are NOT limited to FSB's of 500MHz. I was/would be quite content at the stable 425 or so I experienced before it DIED!

The board/bios needs some attention. Gigabyte?
09-07-2006, 02:29 AM
Darkoz

Quote:

Originally Posted by GAM

I'd agree, except there ARE issues with the DQ6 that are NOT limited to FSB's of 500MHz. I was/would be quite content at the stable 425 or so I experienced before it DIED!

The board/bios needs some attention. Gigabyte?

This is exactly my point.
Firstly, you try and run the board way over specification and then complain when/if it fails.
Secondly, I seem to recall that you also physically modified your DQ6 and lo and behold soon after it is rendered inoperable, or to put it in your own words, you "killed" it.
And thirdly, you'll be the one whinging when/if your new CPU that you lapped to such a nice shiny finish also stops working , but of course it wouldn't be your fault.
09-07-2006, 04:01 AM
GAM

Now now. This IS xtreme systems, right?

The board provides overclocking facilities, is designed to do so and promoted as such.

I don't think I've complained about the DQ6. I like and want it back. The only physical modification I made to the board is to fit a heatsink and place some cardboard on it--I 'could' have damaged it in this process, and if so it IS my fault. Whether I stated I 'killed' it or not, the statement is out of context. And, No, I would not complain if my CPU died. I am, obviously, not concerned with it's warranty.

Please vent on someone else.
09-07-2006, 04:12 AM
Richard Dower

Quote:

Originally Posted by BiOvOrE

And how exactly are we DQ6 users getting screwed again??

Ahh, that's right, because YOU can't get YOUR system running properly...:rolleyes:

There're plenty of DQ6 users who haven't had a single problem with their board.

You've got almost identical hardware to me, so how is it your board can reach 500FSB and mine can only go to 338FSB????
09-07-2006, 04:30 AM
BiOvOrE

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Dower

You've got almost identical hardware to me, so how is it your board can reach 500FSB and mine can only go to 338FSB????

Good question, mate.

But if I'm using almost identical hardware to you, I'd say that very fact pretty much rules out the cause being a faulty Gigabyte BIOS.

I've used most of the BIOS betas (currently on F4d) and been able to boot (but not necessarily bench) at more than 445FSB, without much tweaking at all (basically, more and more vcore.)

I'm guessing you're just plain unlucky and have a mobo/CPU and/or RAM that is a dud overclocker for whatever reason, OR you're doing something seriously wrong with your setup.

The 500+ FSB's may be a different story, but there's something seriously wrong somewhere if you can't hit 338, and I strongly doubt that ANY BIOS that Gigabyte releases will fix that problem.
09-07-2006, 04:39 AM
HeadShotWI

Just installed my F5 bios last night on the DS3. I then spent 3 hours trying to find a good overclock and jut could not. NOthing I did was dual prime stable and I was getting weird choppiness and studdering in 3dmark2006.

HOWEVER. I finally said screw it and set everything to "normal" for voltages including VCORE,GMCH,VFSB,and VDIMM. I set the FSB speed to 400 and PCIE freq to 105 since that is the only setting that will allow my 7950gx2 to functioning. Memory timing is set to 2x and I set timings to automatic.

Low and behold my ds3 booted up at 2.1 vdimm, 1.425 vcore(which sounds about right), and memory set to 5,5,5,15 timings. The system is completely ROCK STABLE dual prime stable 3dmark2006 stable. In fact this is the most stable I have seen my system since it's birth. I ran a 1M pi time of 18.5s

I changed the memory settings and manually set it to 4,4,4,12 and left vdimm to auto. Everything is still completely stable and 1M pi time is 18.4

So I changed the memory divider to 2.5 which puts me at 1000mhz memory speed at 5,5,5,15. I ran a 1M pi time of 18.2

I then changed my memory to 4,4,4,12 at 2.5 divider for 1000mhz memory speed. I ran a 1M pi time of 18.1.

So it looks like the F5 bios has better memory compatiability(I can for the first time easily run my Gskill HZ memory at 1000mhz even though I really don't see much of a difference at all. What the heck does the memory speed increase anyways? I was expecting better gains upping it to 1000mhz. Even my 1M pi times didn't improve much.

I know its a sin to leave everything at auto but it looks like the F5 bios handles automatic voltages VERY WELL. SO WELL in fact that my system is more stable than ever before.
09-07-2006, 04:42 AM
mele

F4 Final for the DQ6 is out.

http://www.jzelectronic.de/jz2/index.php
09-07-2006, 04:45 AM
Richard Dower

Thank christ!...though i doubt i'll have any luck.
09-07-2006, 04:50 AM
Richard Dower

Quote:

Originally Posted by BiOvOrE

Good question, mate.

But if I'm using almost identical hardware to you, I'd say that very fact pretty much rules out the cause being a faulty Gigabyte BIOS.

I've used most of the BIOS betas (currently on F4d) and been able to boot (but not necessarily bench) at more than 445FSB, without much tweaking at all (basically, more and more vcore.)

I'm guessing you're just plain unlucky and have a mobo/CPU and/or RAM that is a dud overclocker for whatever reason, OR you're doing something seriously wrong with your setup.

The 500+ FSB's may be a different story, but there's something seriously wrong somewhere if you can't hit 338, and I strongly doubt that ANY BIOS that Gigabyte releases will fix that problem.

I've changed out the memory to an 0627 G.SKILL HZ kit, it's been Orthos dual prime tested for 12 hours @ 900MHz. 2.2V with 4-4-4-12 timings, 2GB kit.

It's not the memory, the CPU is a week 24 retail B2 stepping E6600. My POV is even IF the CPU was holding me back i SHOULD be able to set a 6x multi and acheive 400FSB

400x6=2400MHz....thats stock speed, i should be able to do this, but i can't. No amount of MCH or FSB voltage will do anything for me.

So are you saying then that each board can be very different from another?...surely all mobo's are made the same at the factory. Why should one perform better then the other?

Anyways i'm off to flash and test F4.
09-07-2006, 05:09 AM
blurp

You might want to gradually reduce vcore. I started at 1.4 and slowly dropped to 1.35. Each time tested Orthos > 4 hours. That's my sweet spot. GMCH & VFSB are set to default. I get 57-59 coreTemp on Load with Orthos.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeadShotWI

Just installed my F5 bios last night on the DS3. I then spent 3 hours trying to find a good overclock and jut could not. NOthing I did was dual prime stable and I was getting weird choppiness and studdering in 3dmark2006.

HOWEVER. I finally said screw it and set everything to "normal" for voltages including VCORE,GMCH,VFSB,and VDIMM. I set the FSB speed to 400 and PCIE freq to 105 since that is the only setting that will allow my 7950gx2 to functioning. Memory timing is set to 2x and I set timings to automatic.

Low and behold my ds3 booted up at 2.1 vdimm, 1.425 vcore(which sounds about right), and memory set to 5,5,5,15 timings. The system is completely ROCK STABLE dual prime stable 3dmark2006 stable. In fact this is the most stable I have seen my system since it's birth. I ran a 1M pi time of 18.5s

I changed the memory settings and manually set it to 4,4,4,12 and left vdimm to auto. Everything is still completely stable and 1M pi time is 18.4

So I changed the memory divider to 2.5 which puts me at 1000mhz memory speed at 5,5,5,15. I ran a 1M pi time of 18.2

I then changed my memory to 4,4,4,12 at 2.5 divider for 1000mhz memory speed. I ran a 1M pi time of 18.1.

So it looks like the F5 bios has better memory compatiability(I can for the first time easily run my Gskill HZ memory at 1000mhz even though I really don't see much of a difference at all. What the heck does the memory speed increase anyways? I was expecting better gains upping it to 1000mhz. Even my 1M pi times didn't improve much.

I know its a sin to leave everything at auto but it looks like the F5 bios handles automatic voltages VERY WELL. SO WELL in fact that my system is more stable than ever before.
09-07-2006, 06:04 AM
OneStepAhead

HIGH TEMPS

I have a 965P-DS3 / Corsair 6400C4 / e6400 setup and my temps are abnormally high. Its not my fan as Ive used this fan on my previous setup so I know it can cool, its the Zalman CNPS9500. Ive remounted the fan to check for improper seating, and Ive applied a5 correctly. I bought the e6400 second hand, and he was using a DS3 also and didnt have this high of temps (unless he was lying but ive seen screen shots and i dont think he was). At stock the chip is idling at 50c / 70c peak @ 1.30V. If I bump it up to 3.2Ghz @ 1.35 it goes up to 65c / 83c peak. Ive tried every bios revision thats been released. Should I RMA the board? The chip? Different fan? What else could it be?

Thanks

OSA
09-07-2006, 06:15 AM
Eldonko

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Originally Posted by Richard Dower

So are you saying then that each board can be very different from another?...surely all mobo's are made the same at the factory. Why should one perform better then the other?

That's the way MBs work, they all can be totally different in terms of overclocking even though it's the same board. It sucks but that's oc life.

Have you tried testing fsb limit using various straps? I get a different max with all dividers..

OneStepAhead - What are you measuring temps with?
09-07-2006, 06:22 AM
OneStepAhead

Measuring temps with CoreTemp, Everest Ultimate, SpeedFan, the BIOS, and my hand :)

All measurements report the same temps

OSA
09-07-2006, 06:28 AM
Eldonko

If you want a comparo, at stock vcore my E6400 is at 35C load (easytune), 48C load (coretemp). Not sure which is correct but that is using stock cooler and 28C ambient. This is DQ6 though, hard to say if temp monitoring is different from DS3.
09-07-2006, 06:32 AM
ClockCatcher

I don't think that mobo makes CPU ran hotter. That is physically impossible. My temps are with stock cooler (that runs @ 1700rpm) and stock fsb about 43c at idle and about 62c at load. These temps are from CoreTemp, but with other temp apps. temps are about 10c lesser. So I think also that CoreTemp is showing too high.
09-07-2006, 07:06 AM
OneStepAhead

Here is a cool Tool I ran across a minute ago. Intel Thermal Analysis Tool. Apparently its an OEM tool and isnt on intel.com for download. It measures both core's temps and you can even throttle the CPU to 100%. I downloaded it from here: http://shintai.ambition.cz/files/tat.exe

OSA
09-07-2006, 07:48 AM
Ajfina

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneStepAhead

Here is a cool Tool I ran across a minute ago. Intel Thermal Analysis Tool. Apparently its an OEM tool and isnt on intel.com for download. It measures both core's temps and you can even throttle the CPU to 100%. I downloaded it from here: http://shintai.ambition.cz/files/tat.exe

OSA

That program shows my temp at 55c , bios, and easy tune shows 44 also speedfan shows 44 , wth?
09-07-2006, 07:53 AM
Silves

I have my DQ6 bios f3e, with a E6600 at 400fsb for 24/7, the only problem that i have is that i cant restart. I need to turn off the computer and wait a few seconds before she goes again. Not a big deal.

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