I'm not bashing him? What the :banana::banana::banana::banana:, get a clue. But he said he's leaving the board to go to another because of a problem in a beta bios. At least, that's my understanding of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charloz24
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I'm not bashing him? What the :banana::banana::banana::banana:, get a clue. But he said he's leaving the board to go to another because of a problem in a beta bios. At least, that's my understanding of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charloz24
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Originally Posted by feek
From what I've read the only bios that doesnt do this is the F4. I was using a beta bios in the hopes that the board would work correctly.
Well, there's a reason why it's called beta and not final; there will be bugs.
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Originally Posted by HeadOn
umm, from what I've read the issue on a cold boot where the DS3 doesnt save the overclock isnt just a bug, it's been an issue with this board from the beginning. I'd call that a nagging flaw - not a 'bug'.
I still have a p5b-e that I had no problems with - other than lack of vdimm (2.1v max) and I wanted to give a DS3 a try and see if it was capable of the same OC. It was an experiment. Overall it did great, in fact I liked it better than the Asus P5B-E, loss vcore droop, more vdimm, mch and FSB voltage adjustments... however something like this, defaulting to stock settings on a cold boot is just downright annoying and Im going to go back to the Asus board for this reason alone. This isnt a new problem with the DS3, it's still not a resolved issue.
Anyways, it has nothing to do with me using a beta BIOS - earlier BIOSes had issues with D9 over 450. I needed 500 - 516 to match the performance of the Asus board so there is no reason to drop to f4 to save my overclock and thus limit the OC to 450 Mhz FSB. Hopefully this clears up what and why I was complaining about it.
Dean
Yea beta, as in the S3, DS3, DS4, and DQ6 boards are Beta products from Gigabyte and we should all expect these kinds of flaws from Beta products :)
My question is: "do we get paid for beta testing their products?"
It's a good thing I got my Wii yesterday. It keeps my mind off this damn board!
I can POST at 500, and I do not think I have memory issues (if so, I don't give a :banana::banana::banana::banana: because this board is screaming @476 and stable).Quote:
Originally Posted by MartianInvader
I'm just hoping to get a few more mHz maybe. Otherwise, like I said above...:stick:
I'm expecting a free 2.0 mobo in the mail :DQuote:
Originally Posted by cold_realms
With F7 for the DQ6 i can hit 438-440FSB...but the new betas are pants for overclocking. **i got my OCZ 850W PSU today - woot!**
While trying to hit the magic 3.6ghz overclock with a e6600, I reached a point in my voltage increase where further increases in the setting yielded some strange readings from cpuz.
When I set the cpu vcore voltage to 1.45V or above, cpuz will report back the vcore as 1.212V and occassionally fluctuating to 1.414V. If I set any voltage below 1.45V, the voltage seems to be bumped up in a linear fashion how I expect it to be bumped up. I tried disabling c1 halt, eist, thermal protection, virtualization, and in windows set it to always on, but I still get the voltage drop as soon as I set it to 1.45V. Does everyone else seem to have that problem?
edit: had the problem with cpuz 1.36 and 1.38 and using F7 bios still
DQ6 2.0 review!
http://www.ocworkbench.com/2006/giga...Q6-REV2/g1.htm
Thats not a review, thats just pictures of the board..Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dower
Dammit...don't split hairs :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by markopoleo
That seems to be a regular problem with CPUZ. It doesn't read voltages past 1.45.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rix2357
hi, i have a strange problem ive never had with any of my previous systems (this is my first intel). When i restart from windows, all of my disks just turn off just a second or two before system actualy restarts and start spinning on again while drives detection screen is up (this doesnt happen with manual press reset button on the case). anyone have any idea whats wrong, ive tested two different PSUs so im suspecting board itself in some way (DQ6 i have tried F6,F7,F8c).
Second question: Is there a way to turn off NCQ in windows, on my old board i could do that in hardware manager, i cant even disable the disk cache as that option is grayed out for me. (also i cant remove safely any hdd as it doesnt appear on the list of usb devices, you should have hot swap option with sata.)
thanks for any ideas.
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Originally Posted by olhado
I know it's quite common as I read about this on other forums too but is it normal? Is there anyone else here who has this issue at stock speed?Quote:
Originally Posted by ezechiel1917
I wonder if one shoud leave it as it is and believe that it doesn't harm the system (hdd) and maybe some future BIOS fix it. Or is it reason to RMA the board?
I tried to enter timings manually but it didn't help.Quote:
Originally Posted by corsair8575
Vista is near and I was looking for excuse to try different RAM. So yesterday I moved from 1GB PATRIOT 5300 to 2GB GEIL ULTRA 5300 and still no improvement. I entered timings in BIOS, set voltage as stated on sticks and computer still cycling before post - maybe even more than eariler - now 2, 3 or 4 cycles before post.
There's one more thing I noticed yesterday. I set timings to 3 4 4 8 (DS4@F7E) and when I check them in CPU-Z or Everest it shows they are 3 4 4 9... Maybe BIOS and mobo try to set optimal timings on their own and cycles when doing it...
I can post at 520 with my 120E geil kit.... :slap: and it's sp1m stable to 522 ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tac0
The issue is I got a €500 ocz kit, which doesn't even come close. Don't tell me because you think you got no issues because you're running 476 fsb, think ur on x2 ram multi which is below spec for my ram, that the board doesn't still have the same issues.
How did You do that? I've tried flash my DS4 with DQ6 F7 bios, from QFlash, but I've got error checksum or something like this. I can't flash it.Quote:
Originally Posted by DStealth
use @bios =.=" there's only 2 ways to flash your bios unless u got some 3rd party stuff...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy007
QFlash is better than @BIOS ... it's the floppy thing
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Originally Posted by ScythedBlade
They make pills for that now.
:p:
Sorry - back on topic.
Update- It appears Gigabyte figured out the disappearing OC settings on some of the boards. I will have more information tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by bingo13
Alle- luia :eek:
So much hating the damn thing, with each power ON.
QFlash doesn't let you flash ur DS4 with DQ6 bios... I'm not an @bios fan tho... only used it once to flash my DS4 with DQ6 F7Quote:
Originally Posted by ScythedBlade
Dammit. ..and I'm about ready to RMA this thing too.Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo13
I went back to F8I just to give it the benefit of the doubt. Worked great all night. This morning I had about 10 boots in a row, warm and cold that it wouldnt hold the OC. Finally it started working again. I even decided to give F7 a shot but it couldnt OC over 470 for me. Tomorrow I've got an Asus P5B Deluxe coming its too bad I really liked this motherboard.
I find it funny/stupid that people want to return the board cause they can't overclock insane speeds like others can. Like a %50 overclock or more is so terrible. "Oh no i can't get 500fsb vs my sad 450fsb im going to spend $200 on a different board!!"
Honest you guys spend more money buying new motherboards to overclock when in beginning you should of got better hardware in beginning. lol
lol! markopoleo does have a point...
I have the P5B arriving tomorrow aswell, im sick of the DS3 no new bios only beta- forget gigabyte.I hope the asus is as good as my last one over 440 fsb with D9 here i come!Quote:
Originally Posted by dnottis
I liked the P5B-E just not enough vdimm. I picked up a refurb P5B Deluxe this time around ;) $119.Quote:
Originally Posted by frostman
I'm gonna have to give the usual - THIS IS XTREME SYSTEMS. Besides motherboards are $130, moving from a 6300 to an X6800 is like a $900 difference. Thats why we dont buy faster CPUs - so there.Quote:
Originally Posted by markopoleo
any better result of DQ6 F7 on DS4 than DS4 F6 offical?Quote:
Originally Posted by laziepig
I find it funny/stupid that my DS3 resets my overclock after every cold boot.Quote:
Originally Posted by markopoleo
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Originally Posted by HamidFULL
Why is this here?
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Originally Posted by HamidFULL
97.35 are better drivers. They bring Bf2 scores within %5 of my windows XP ones.
which has what to do with beta bioses?Quote:
Originally Posted by markopoleo
Anyone who experiencing "cold boot" problem, you just over clock beyond the limit of your hardware combination.Quote:
Originally Posted by aldamon
Cold boot mean you need to cool down a little bit :fact: , and reset to default setting is just a protection mechanism which prevent you from permanently damaging your computer, both are good function for you dude extreme system overclocker :D
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Originally Posted by TKC
Not true - occaisionally it sticks. occaisionally it doesnt. Besides I dont have the same problem with a P5B and the same settings. If this was pushing the CPU too hard - it would happen on both motherboards.
To be even more clear about this, I can overclock this configuration up to 4.7ghz (336fsb) using easy tune and it will test and run stable all week. But if I set the FSB anything over 288 in the bios, it will reset the configuration the first time I turn the system off and back on.
Now if you noticed, 4.7 ghz is a long way from where I run it 24/7. So I don't really think this is a feature, I think it is a problem with the bios and that is why Gigabyte is addressing it that way. As Bingo13 said earlier today, they think they found the issue with it. So we just need to be patient and it will get fixed.
And when I get my new board back from newegg, I'll give it a whirl.
So now that you all understand the real cold boot issue, we don't have to debate whether it is a feature or an error any longer. I hope!!
:slapass:Quote:
Originally Posted by dnottis
lolz
I understand, but if you compare with P5B, you know it's totally different hardware envirement, CPU is not the only thing, if you have tested and confirmed that P5B is OK with the same setting while on DQ6/DS4 it's not, well, it only saying your P5B is better than DQ6/DS4 on this case, and GB better lesten to messages come from this forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by dnottis
I also have experienced cold boot many times, and with different memory module, or even with different PSU, it occur on different FSB setting. So my point is, the cold boot is resulted from over clock for sure, if you set everything back to default setting, I bet no one will have any cold boot at all.
When you meet cold boot, bios auto-reset... etc., persistent or intermittent, no matter how you think your mobo is, you know your overclocking reach a ceiling limit, something need to change. Of course change mobo is an option :cool:
Frankly, I think you have issues...reading your posts I can see you think you're far too bright for everyone in the room...might be good for you to get outta the basement once in a while its a big world out there...st.Quote:
Originally Posted by MartianInvader
You think I'm looking for some sort of "my schwartz is bigger than your schwartz" or something?? I don't come here for that :banana::banana::banana::banana:.
Yeh, reseting always happen when your mobo is POSTing, so it's nothing to do with how far you can go within Windows, they are different stages.Quote:
Originally Posted by JPH1589
Although I still thanks to this "function":p: , but yes, I do believe OEM can do something to improve it, push the threshold higher mean the ability to overclock is better.
Just chillin' waiting on F8K with the cold boot fix.
I think we are speaking a different language. In fact, I am sure we are.Quote:
Originally Posted by TKC
I wonder if we will see something like BIOS F8z.... :D
What is driving me crazy is I bought this board because it was the "one to get" 3 months ago and like you can see in my sig, I'm still testing... :mad:
It seems the same for me... :stick: I'll just stick back to DS4/F7bQuote:
Originally Posted by HamidFULL
What dnottis is saying is that he set his OC, primed it for over 12 hours stable and then on a reboot it reset. It's a problem with the bios. I was running F8i with my S3 and it would be perfectly fine through reboots with my overclock. I flashed to F8j and nothing but problems. Rebooting constantly and resetting my OC. Went so far as to go back to the release F6 bios for the S3, running same OC as before with F8i and not even one reboot/reset after several reboots, warm and cold. I think you need to understand the issue before making blanket statements like that.
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Originally Posted by TKC
If your happy with your mediocre OC then be that way and STFU. No one wants/cares to see those comments here, they are a waste of our time when we are trying to post issues to see if others are having the same problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by markopoleo
Dude chill out :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tac0
The thing is what I am saying is already known for ages, D9 and DS3 don't mix, and no bios update so far has solved this :)
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by MadMikeSS
lol! -.- chill dude...Quote:
Originally Posted by dnottis
I want to update my bios for DS3 rev 2 what's your opinion and how can i get F7 bios for DS3 ?
heheh...dnottis I was waiting for that. Maybe you should tone it down a bit tho....
http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/5994/pwned6vr8.jpg
Like this maybe? just a suggestion :)
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Originally Posted by Tac0
HAHA like that one is any better!!! Both pics show some serious PWNAGE! :woot:
Now where is that new bios...?
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Ehh, I guess it doesn't matter anymore :D
Go away. Thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by TKC
Yup. Unless I've been misled to believe dual-priming and gaming are more stressful than POSTing. LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadMikeSS
Damn good price! GG! If they still have some left after the holidays, I might pick up one.Quote:
Originally Posted by dnottis
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Originally Posted by MadMikeSS
yes cause a %50 overclock on a $180 CPU is mediacore. rofl :stick:
Being able to overclock insane speeds is NOT a ISSUE with a motherboard that you should complain about. Now if you got a motherboard that does not boot at all or overclock at all, THAT is a issue to :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: and moan about.
So wasting time is complaining "OMG I CAN"T OVERCLOCK to 500FSB GIGABYTE BLOWS!". Those are the useless posts.
f8j kills my ds3 :( I takes 3 days after flashing. MoBo worked normally, but today I turned it on, but no sigyal on moiotor.
Bingo baby, any news re: DQ6?
Thanks for the permission. :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by markopoleo
Ya just.... don't..... get it.Quote:
Originally Posted by markopoleo
I agree, i am well pleased with my CPU at 1000Nhz over standard, will 300MHz more make me happier?...probably not.Quote:
Originally Posted by markopoleo
All i want from GB is to be able to run at my current settings or 486x7..for bandwidth.
Update the JMicron and Intel bios ROMs (which they are doing/done) and fix things as they go along.
So hurry on with F8 and lemme do lil :banana:
Just to know your mobo CAN do it, if you want...he does get it. But just because you read that loads of folks are getting 500FSB and yours won't go past 350 dosen't mean your mobo is faulty.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadMikeSS
It's just that either it needs a bios update or has reach the boards tolerance. Belive me i know how frustrating it is...my board was limit to 340FSB until F5 bios let me hit 445FSB.
It was the same with my CPU, it was total crap...needed 1.475V for 3.0GHz, my new CPU gets to 3.4GHz with 1.4V :)
We get it, have a cookie.
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Originally Posted by Richard Dower
Well pushing 500+ FSB has nothing to do with anything - when the board on a cold start resets to defaults and wont save your overclock. You apparently arent getting it either. MadMikeSS is running 490 Mhz FSB - so I think you lost track of the info in the thread.
MarcoPolo -
You are just jealous that you arent getting a 100% overclock like some of us. This is XtremeSystems - not XtremelyWhineyb1thcyOprahWatchingChicklikeForums - we expect hardware to overclock like a chimp on speed riding a rollercoaster...and when another motherboard using the same chipset has no problem doing the same thing well then don't gimme the whiney "overclock too far ...waaaa!" crap. This is an issue of the motherboard not starting up with the overclock being saved. We are already 36 hours past proving it's prime stable, memtest stable, etc, etc ad nausem. I've seen your posts, they offer nothing but - "you are pushing the hardware too far". Either join in or go home already. And take your crappy 50% OC with ya.
/end nasty rant :clap:
First off, who said I was unhappy with my board? The lowest FSB I have had to deal with was 450 and that was a limit of my cpu, with a different cpu I'm doing 490. The issue at hand is not that the board won't do what we are trying to accomplish from it, it's that when we have been able to get it to hold the OC settings we put to it stable with all the major stability tests, we reboot and the bios resets to defaults. We've already talked to the guys who are working with Gigabyte on this and they have acknowledged it as a problem. It has nothing to do with the overclock being too much for the hardware to handle. I haven't had a single reboot/reset since I flashed back to F6 bios for my S3, I rarely got it with F8i for DS3 but it wouldn't hold a single overclock with F8j. And I have been running 490x7 with each one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dower
I feel your pain.Quote:
Originally Posted by demiurg
Mine is on its way to RMA land!! Another victim of F8J.
starting to feel left out, i'm stuck with this sh:banana:tty, $115, super stable 965P-S3 w/ F6 bios, running my crappy E6400 at 514x7 w/ 1.44v and every morning the stoopid computer starts right up and runs all day until i turn it off.
You guys should really get some girlfriends... fighting about who knows more about what... OC´ing!?!? :D LOL Lame.... get a life, get a haircut, get a job... or atleast go c youre right hand!!! :D
Heres to you buddy:toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by HaZe303
No offense, but what are you doing here?Quote:
Originally Posted by HaZe303
LOL careful what you wish for!Quote:
Originally Posted by Plester
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Originally Posted by HaZe303
haha - married with kids man. So all thats left in life is overclocking... :rolleyes: kids.
:slap:
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Originally Posted by Tac0
Yea, thats cause the F6 BIOS on the S3 doesnt have this problem... but as Tac0 said -
I'm putting together a computer for my friend next week with a DS3. What bios should I opt for? I'm just gonna do some light air overclocking on it, nothing extreme. So I need something absolutely stable and safe.
The newest on gb's website. F7
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Originally Posted by feek
Yea will be fine for mild OC
Not even mild, unless you have D9 ram.
Well done . I have settled two Asus motherboards for friends too and now i can not rest myself with C://windows/sistem32/root corrupted stories of not booting
and i know how it will end, i will suicide . I like these DS3 , they ovclk mild 450x8 but without odd sideffects or WinXP corruption incidents , even if you change bios a million time
For those of you with the cold boot problem check your BIOS settings.
Mine was doing that until I bumped these voltages:
PCI-E 0.10
FSB 0.20
MCH 0.20
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Originally Posted by Fiddy
Shut it off overnight and I bet it will be back. I tried bumping voltages and it still happened. Or it would boot fine once and I thought I had it - next time it wouldnt come up.
Have been away for some time and lost track of this thread around the 70-80page. So if some kind soul could answer a simple question for the DS4 board.
Was/is there a solution for the DS4 SYS_FAN speed control? My fan went 100% after leaving F1 I think. Has it been fixed or still waiting?
thx
Any word on the official F8 bios?
It's been a while!
Sounds creepy these things with the F8J issues...
As my CPU actually didn't arrive, I haven't got to test the F8J, and judging by the looks of it, I think I won't test it either...
Let's just hope for a fresh E6300 without a FSB limit. At least it should be a pretty new one, since it's brought all the way from Malaysia just for me. ;)
Gogo, 634.
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Originally Posted by Mean Machine
Well at least wait for the next F8, the current one is pretty sad as it wont save my oc on a cold boot.
so what is the best bios rev for overclocking right now?
I like f8i; not having issues (although some might disagree <ahem>) as far as stability, cold boot problems yadayada I'm good right now *crosses fingers*Quote:
Originally Posted by ripken204
Today I'll swap my DQ6 against the new DQ6 2.0 and I hope to get a much higher FSB. I'm now at 400 x 9 and I wanted to get 450 x 8 without cold boot issues. What makes me a bit nervous is, that both boards share exactly the same bios. I'm waiting for the F8 final....
Where did you buy the 2.0 DQ6?
Hello all :)
Any updates regarding news on another F8x revision?
I got mine from Actebis Pea:banana::banana::banana::banana: (a large distributor here in germany) on tuesday, but they are out of stock right now. Bcom has about 20 pieces in stock, but they also only sell to resellers. I don't know if you can buy it in other countries. I'm currently testing a new cpu. With my old setup (DQ6 + E6600 @ 1.500V) I got 3600 MHz (8x 450 or 9x 400) 24/7. My results so far (Orthos running for 10mins):Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dower
7x 500 @ 1.375 stable
8x 450 @ 1.375 error
8x 400 @ 1.400 error
9x 400 @ 1.425 stable
8x 475 @ 1.475 SuperPi 1M 13,750s Orthos error
8x 475 @ 1.550 stable
8x 500 @ 1.550 SuperPi 1M 12.984s Orthos error
8x 500 @ 1.600 error
7x 515 @ 1.425 freeze in windows (think it's to much for my D9@cl4)
I think I'll stick to 8x 450 @ 1.425, it's the same clock as with my other E6600, but 0.075V less vcore.
The board has also the same problems like not posting after restart and resetting FSB-setting and PCI-E clock. It's better to turn the pc off and back on. Hope F8 will fix it.
I'm trying to order from Alternate.de, they show rev 2.0 boards on their website....but it's a :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: to translate in English from German.
Komplett.ie appear to have new stock due the 21st, but i emailed and they said they have no way of verifying if they'll be stocking 1.0 or 2.0, since they haven't had stock in weeks i assume they'll be 2.0.
But since i needed to be sure i'm trying these Alternate guys, it cost €230, what did your cost?...man i hope they don't hit me with a huge DHL delivery bill.
Are you using F7 for the betas for F8?...i assume the 2.0 comes loaded with F7 by default. 500x7 sounds sweet.
:nono: not a sausage, i doubt we'll see anything until January.Quote:
Originally Posted by JumpyJim
Here's a new DS3 review:
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/406
Yes, it was loaded with F7. I don't want to test a beta F8, until I'm sure it works OK. The drop on vcore isn't that much, as it was on my old dq6 and it seems to be more happy with high FSB.Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dower
I paid 206,48 € including 16% MwSt., but this is not the price you pay as a regular enduser.
You only have 1GB of RAM. Look at all of the variables in play before boasting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plester
Will do.Quote:
Originally Posted by dnottis
As for me, I haven't noticed any coldboot issues, and I feel quite lucky for that...
Anyways, I'm looking forward to the rev 2.0 of this mobo, seems quite promising, looking at the oc potential the C2 stepping has on boards like the P5B-E Plus. That of course, is a Asus board, and I've sworn to never touch one of those again. :)
I ordered the new ga-965P DS3P Rev 2.0 board today, it looks identical to the new model (Rev 2.0) DS4 without the crappy heatpipes
I should have it by Wed ~ Tursday and will be torturing an E6300 in it, hopefully the bios will be OK :rolleyes:
Can you please tell me if the newest final bios for DQ6 (i.e. F7) still contains this horrible error, that when you set in bios vcore =<1.2V, it's 1.57V? I'd like to run my E6400 using vcore lower than 1V 24/7, yet I don't know if version F7 allows to do so. Cheers.
Where did you order it?Quote:
Originally Posted by alpha0ne