I'd still like to know if there is a program that will display dimm voltage on the desktop :confused:
TY
Creeper
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I'd still like to know if there is a program that will display dimm voltage on the desktop :confused:
TY
Creeper
The only programme I know is Core cell, but that sucks ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by VaCreeper
Thanx! I'll give it a look!
:)
Creeper
:eek: Whoa! What a crappy looking program. I wish SysTool would add vdimm readings.
Oh well, thanx anyway :)
Creeper
Corecell doesn't display your vdimm. That vdimm number u see in corecell is just the setting you can change. It is not a reading.
Yep listen to D3kMatrix he is wise.
Only way to get a vdimm reading is with a multimeter. there are two points to choose from.
http://www.swjka.com/k8nneo2bios//Vddr.jpghttp://www.frontiernet.net/~hill195/ne2p/vdimm.jpg
no really if you know the defaults...For me the CMOS reset pin is positioned excellent but with corecell i test more oc without resetting the bios (after some time becomes booring) if a setting is wrong...Quote:
Originally Posted by Draxx
Yeah! D3KMatrix is right!
They say that you have to read the vdimm on the hardware at the reading points with a multimeter.
BTW I have discovered something that is at least true for my self!
I could reach 2500 without increasing VCORE!
But I'm currently setting my divider @ DDR200!
Why is that? I mean I can get my computer stable at 2500 without increasing my VCorc? But when I set my ram at DDR400 for example I'm not stable without 1.6VCore?
Wow.. so many posts since I last visited here.. :)
I have a MSI K8N Neo2, Athlon 64 3000+, and 2x512 of G.Skill PC4400 F1-3200DSU2-1GBLE (TCCD) (which I paid a decent amount for because of its OC capabilities).
Right now I am running at 2340 Mhz (260 x 9), with a 1:1 ratio at 1T, 2.5-4-8-4. I was running a bit higher, but I can't complain too much.
Lately I have been thinking about going up to 2 gigs of ram. I run a lot of heavier apps, and I am using XP64. It is just a hard decision, since in doubling my ram, I will probably loose some speed.
I do not plan on buying super-expensive ram if I replace it. Probably around $200-$230. I figure I could at least get a good bit back for my current ram on Ebay since it still retails around $200 (the lowest I found so far). I do not want to get any real cheap stuff, but I am trying to keep the cost down.
Is anyone out there doing any good overclocking with 2x1024? Is there one particular type of ram that is doing good for this board? (As far as 1 gig sticks). Thanks for any info.
I run 4x 512 OCZ 3200 Plats @ 243x11 / 1.1 / 2T / 2.5 3 3 8
You'll be able to do better wiyh 2x 1042.
:D Creeper
P.S. @ SE. Can I use my old Sears Multimeter? What settings?
TY
What kind of problem is this?
I now really can't run stable at 2700 even with 1.80v!
I was pretty stable at about a month ago but now i'm not. I could easily run SuperPI 32M calculation but now I get a BSOD. Someone said that there is a problem with this mobo. I don't know, so what do u all say? thx
Hey, I have a question :)
I just bough an MSI neo2-F as well as a Thermalright neo backplate, just in case....
So I was wondering if the standard backplate already attached to the socket of my neo2-F will be sufficient to hold that Big Typhoon, or should I install the Thermalright Backplate instead ?
Do I need to install the thermalright backplate directly under, above the standard mounted backplate, or should I remove the standard one before installing the thermalright one ?
than for your time :)
I would certainly take the old one off, and use the new one. I have never heard of two backplates being used at the same time, and I have installed a good number of HSF's. I imagine it would not be a good idea, if even possible. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by wussupnext
2 bioses insideQuote:
new Beta BIOS for K8N Neo2 MS-7025 1C3 become availible today .
Solved By MSI in 1C3 :
Invoke error on nvidia lan option rom (PXE boot)
http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~chsm...5CUST1-1C3.zip
-7025CU1A.1C3 = Unmodified/Untouched Beta Bios
-7025Cu1E.1C3 = Beta bios modded by Syar (Msi Forum)
.txt included
gonna test it tomorrow i think, hope it will solve the invoke error i got with my Promise Raid pci card
EDIT.
Just so you know thats not an Offical BIOS, it's a Beta.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nossie
If anything call it an Unmodified/Untouched Beta so people don't think its the final release. Even though its kinda obvious by the 3 (Beta v3)
Well good news about the 3.5 and 4.5 HTT multiplier. Im a little dissapointed that there are still no more ram timings.
sounds like another mem controller giving up the overclock to me :( happen to me on my 3500winnie and 3200veniceQuote:
Originally Posted by Mehran
Yeah, 3.5 HTT multi will be perfect for me if it works right.Quote:
Originally Posted by sideeffect
280x3.5 = 980HT :D
Well it looks like a good bios from MSI but the least modable in ages becaue everything is already on. Going to make a mod anyway because its too cluttered at the moment.
They still have the read preamble and max async values in the code just begging to be activated. Still they dont activate them :mad:
I think 1.C final will be the last bios for a while from MSI for the neo2. I just hope they activate those last few memory timings before then or I dont think it will ever be done.
Edit - i was viewing the SYAR mod so no wonder everything was activated :p:
sideefect the 18% Vcore value is missing again...
It never worked anyway so whats the point of it being there? Just confuses people because they set their voltage higher but nothing really happens :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Losphoron
Only MSI displays options that do nothing :P
Hi !
I was about to post a link to this but someone got ahead of me .
The CU1A/CU1E is both customized (modded) by me .
CU1A is all options availible
CU1E is EasyBIOS where all sane dafault options are set
but alot of non essensial things taken away from the cmos setup menu's.
This is the one I use myself btw , easier to navigate through .
3.5x/4.5x HT multipliers is not in the MSI beta w7025NMS.1C3
I also enabled 150Mhz and 183Mhz like SE's has done in his bioses .
Other than the setupmenu's both are identical modded and have the same defaults .
I can now boot from SATA drive connected to my SIL 3112 PCI card while
nvraid is enabled .
So can get back to XP64 and XP32 separate without boot ini again .Wohoo i guess .
So the SCSI PCI raid boot should also be corrected as the option rom boot invoke error is gone forever .
Edit:
I have looked at the 13-18% code and they have placed a jump in the code
so if set it jumps to default vcore .
syar2003 did you test the 3.5x and 4.5 x to make sure they work then?
Because i tested them before after enabling them in 1.A and they both defaulted to 5x so unless MSI has fixed them i dont think they will work. Im going to test in a minute i just modded my own variation with added timings.
Edit - the HTT multiplier sets and shows in bios as 3.5 but when u go to windows and check value with a application it is 5x with the 1.A bios after the code hack.
Edit - also the way you added the text for 150 you have changed the ordering for the higher dividers. Its not a problem as the 233 and 250 dont work anyway but if they did they would be set to 216 and 233.
Thanks SE !
I wasn't aware that the 3.5/4.5x HT multipliers defaulted to 5x , my bad :(
Just tested it with 3.5x 220 and had to reset cmos .
Also checked with everest and confirms what you found out earlier .
3.5x 200 gives 1000HT .
So not much use to have theme there .
And post a warning ( DON'T USE 3.5x or 4.5X HT MULTIPLIER )
I'm aware of the 216/233/250 dividers but didn't see any use to change the text on them as they give 100mhz/200mhz/130mhz anyway .
If they actually worked it would matter .
It looks to me that this BIOS only has the boot fix compared to 1B .
Afterall I sendt them a faultreport on that issue on 1Aug and asked again yesterday . Shortly after there was a 1C3 availible .
I have released my 1.C3 mod bios.
Standared Ballistix and TCCD versions all available.
- All new bios layout
- Added 150 and 183 dividers
- New logos
- Better defaults
My site
Best thing to do is disable the 216 233 and 250 dividers while you add the new text.Quote:
Originally Posted by syar2003
Also if i were you i would re-release your bios with the HTT values removed or else somebody might blame you when they try to run 270 HTT with 3.5 multi and it defaults to 1350 and corrupts their bios.
I had a feeling the new multi's were too good to be true :P
do raising the AGP voltage will help for ocing??
I don't believe this, 4, 8, 16M spi @250x10 1.4volt success but nothing can make my rig run @2600Mhz :(:(:(
Quote:
Originally Posted by sideeffect
Thanks SE !
I have re released it as Custom rev.2 as suggested .
The BIOS can't be corrupt cause it's hard flashed , guess you mean
CMOS-memory corrupsion .
3.5x / 4.5x removed .
And did as you suggested about the memory indexes .
Tidy'd up ,and higher dividers/mem index 216/233/250 taken out ,
as there is no use for them in this version .
Hi syar2003 The bios can be corrupt even though its hard flashed. I have done it myself. Some motherboards are more prone to it than others but it can happen on any board.Quote:
Originally Posted by syar2003
If you want to test it out. Set a stupid overclock level like say 400 x 10 then save. Its because even though the bios is hardflashed its still read from and reading from it can corrupt it at a high overclock when system is nowhere near stable.
I really suggest you dont test it out unless you have a bios saviour.
thanks for the modded bios SE, i hope my vidcard would oc to the pre-1.9 frequencies with this bios.
keep up the great work. :D
I'ts a strange thing with videocards and the bios. Seems some overclock better post 1.9 mine included. Where as others overclock less or have freezing.
Even cards of the same design dont follow a pattern.
As for drivers well i've been trying many recently and my favourite nvidia drivers which really do deserve a mention are the Beta 81.84. Iq and performance are top notch.
As for some other things i have noticed to do with nvidia graphics drivers and the neo 2.
77.77 drivers at 80 mhz agp frequency 250 HTT x 4 HTT crashes games.
77.77 drivers at 66 mhz agp frequency 250 HTT x 4 HTT Game stable.
77.77 drivers at 80 mhz agp frequency 250 HTT x 3 HTT Game stable.
81.84 drivers at 80 mhz agp frequency 250 HTT x 4 HTT Game stable.
Thats at my maximum overclocks for the card which is also different in each driver version but with the 81.84 im at my max and no freezing crashes.
Why run at 80 mhz agp? Well its worth about 150 points in 3dMark2005. It also is faster for real world games as well like FEAR, Doom3 etc.
Hey! I changed my bios from 1.36 Mod to 1.B SE!
That's great for OCing! I can now get my computer stable @ 2650 also.
I'm looking for at least 2700 stable.
can someone answer my question from the last page?
Rasising the agp vcore does sometimes help ocing, but depends on your mobo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Napoleonic
Some people say it helps when raising to 1,55V at least. But you shouldn't go higher than 1,7V because it could damage your graphic card.
Just try it for yourself, even the bios version may change the result.
Doesnt help the chipset at all. Helps the graphics card though. I have mine set to 1.65. Is the most stable for me.
btw the BIOS 1B modded tccd version can't work with multi x9??? :confused: :confused: :confused:
stable here with 258x10 but can't load windows with 287x9 :slapass: :slapass: that's only 3mhz difference!
OK! Checked my vdimm, 2.83. In light of some of the previous post's should I turn it back? I sure don't want to cause a problem for my TCCD ram.
TY :D
Creeper
Bios 1B Ballistic Version works perfectly with Multi 9x @ 288 HTT for me...
Its possible that your board just can't handle the higher HTT.Quote:
Originally Posted by Napoleonic
And did you remeber to put your ram on a divider when going for that big of a jump in HTT?
What kind of bios is this 1.c one?!?!?!
I get get my system stable at 2700 now.
But I have to test it with super pi or prime.
Updated my BIOS Page
Added 10 New BIOS's:
v1.C3 Beta - Un-Modded
v1.C3 Beta Mod Standard Edition by Sideeffect
v1.C3 Beta Mod Ballistic Edition by Sideeffect
v1.C3 Beta Mod TCCD Edition by Sideeffect
v.1C3 Beta XMOD by Murdok
v1.C3 Beta XXMOD by Murdok
v1.C3 Beta Mod All option by Syar
v1.C3 Beta Mod Easy Nab by Syar
v1.B Offical XMOD by Murdok
v1.B Official XXMOD by Murdok
hey guys, im thinkin AGAIN of tryin out a new bios (i keep loving the punishment) but mostly im running HIGH HTT now so i just want to know what some of these safe secondary ram settings should be, like the preamble or async latenncy or whatev. i need to open up my a64 tweaker to check em out, any ideas? also.... i need a screenshot 3rd party program to take some SS etc
el rolio a good High HTT bios is the ballistix bios. Unless you have TCCD :p:
If the Max Async is any looser than 8ns it doesnt make it clock higher it actualy makes it less stable. Read Preamble also best settings seem to be between 5.0 ns and 6.5 ns.
Napoleonic the Multiplier compatibility is more to do with the chipset you have and or the cpu. Some boards and cpus will work better in different multipliers. Its just one of those things.
Also you cant forget that 258 x 10 is not the same as 287 x 9 even though the cpu mhz speed is the same you are putting a lot more stress on the memory controller. the more stress the memory controller has the less cpu clocks you will get.
Mehran The 1.C is basicaly the same as 1.B only change is fixing the nvidia lan rom boot error message.
hey thanks, any of the other a64 tweaker settings important to look at? my async and preamble is both at the "good" settings.Quote:
Originally Posted by sideeffect
wanna expand on how the different settings of the OC (even with same speed) is more or less stressing on the mem controller? i have the choice between using my plati rev 2's (tccx) or my gold's (bh-5 - though without necessary volts)
lemme kno homie, thanks for hte tips so far
Read to write queue bybass of 16x and bypass max of 7x is faster in benchmarks and also seems more stable.
Idle cycle limit of 64clks increases stability with no loss of performance.
Dqs skew mode of slower takes the strain off the memory controller slightly and allows a few more mhz. Benchmarks very very slightly slower.
The timings i set in my ballistix bios
- Max Async = 8
- Read Write Queue bypass = 16
- Bypass max = 7
- Idle Cycle limit = 64
- DQS Skew Mode = slower
MSI defaults
- Max Async = 7
- Read Write Queue bypass = 8
- Bypass max = 4
- Idle Cycle limit = 16
- DQS Skew Mode = off
So i relaxed 3 timings and tightened up 2 timings. Result = ballistix bios faster than MSI bios at the same speed but also more stable.
:rolleyes: :nono: I wouldn't complaint if it didn't work in the OLDER BIOS......(1.3-1.5 including the modded versions)Quote:
Originally Posted by D3kMatrix
Well you never said that :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Napoleonic
Then use that bios.Quote:
Originally Posted by Napoleonic
In 1.8 I could run at 300 HT x 10 but i couldnt in the newer bios files. They are not based on the same code. The bios files after 1.9 are re written and are actually based on the NEO 4 bios.
This doesnt make them worse though they are just different. I got a similar overclock just a different way. The extra features make it worth it for me. If you prefered the performance in 1.3-1.5 then use that bios.
Hello all,
SE I test and use your Bios from the beagining and I think that it's great job.
But I have some quastion what can be with all bios after 1.6 revision from that version I don't have realistic temp on CPU only with 1.6 I have good temp IDLE 30-32st stres 45 st. On the all new version I have temp in IDLE 48st and stres 62st that is stupid but this is true.
Please explain me that fakt.
And one more quastion do you can hack revison 1.6 and check it's can be possible to unhide divider 183 and 155??
Thanks
Rafał
Hi Rafał the temperatures actually didnt work in the bios versions pre - 1.7. The temperature readings are accurate in 1.7 + to a few degrees. I would be a little worried about the temp you have.Quote:
Originally Posted by RafikR
Check that the heatsink is seated correctly and that your not using to much voltage for your cooling.
Nope! I was wrong. Not stable under 2700 :(
And SE, I think there is definatly a problem with your bios temp redings. It shows me I'm runnig from 58 to 75!!! IMPOSSIBLE! Why is that?
I can certify that 1.C3 Ballistic is as stable and fast as 1.B Ballistic.
The new design has turned out well Sideeffect. Keep up the good work!
There's only one thing that disturbs me...
I'm suffering from warmboot-problems!
If I reset oder turn the computer on -> Booting...
If I say WinXP to restart computer or do it out of Windows with Alt+Ctrl+Del (warmboot) -> My screen stays black, monitor led is blinking, no booting...
Only a reset helps, then computer works again well...
Any ideas?
Guys has anyone here encountered a problem with the onboard sound of Neo2?
It was working fine on my setup in WinXP. All of a sudden the onboard sound is not working. As per my initial investigation, here's what I got.
1. Speaker is ok. Tried it on another rig.
2. No updates nor new application installed that may cause any software conflicts. My setup has not changed.
3. I'm using SE's 1.A rev2 BIOS. Don't make sense if this is an issue. But just an FYI. The AC97 option in BIOS is always set to AUTO.
4. Device manager in WinXP has no device conflicts. The Realtek AC97 driver seems ok. However, when looking at the Sounds control panel, it says no audio device present.
5. Reinstalled the AC97 driver that came with the mobo. Still no change.
6. I already cleared CMOS. Verified all options are correct. I even set everything to defaults. Still no go.
Anything else, I need to try before trying a clean install of WinXP?
BTW here's my complete rig setup
Athlon 64 3200+ Venice core set oc at 2.2 Ghz(already tried stock speed)
2x512MB OCZ PC3200 Gold Edition @ DDR440 3.2v with OCZ DDR booster
MSI Neo2 Platinum (7025 with SE's 1.A rev2 BIOS)
ATI 9800pro
Logitech X-530 speakers
Enermax 550 watts PSU
TT Bigwater liquid cooling kit.
Active cooling over RAM sticks using a 120mm fan.
WD 200GB SATA-1 HDD
Any feedback will be highly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
@boygenius
Download the nvidia nforce 6.66 driver package, extract the audio-driver and install them...
much better than the realtek driver...
don't worry, even though it is an nforce 4 driver package it will work perfectly, but it don't have a gart-driver for 3d performance...
@stw500,
Thanks, I will certainly try that. However, it still doesn't make sense why all of a sudden the onboard sound quit working after a long time of no hiccups. Just hope it's just an OS/software issue. I don't want to go thru the hassle of RMA again. A day after I bought this board, I sent it back for replacement because of several issues.
Hmm the second person to mention that. The temperature probe is nothing to do with my modifications. So it must be a temperature bug for some cpus still with the MSI bios.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mehran
I think some of you overestimate the extent of my modifications :p: I just change the layout add new logos and enable the dividers and extra memory options. I DONT link temperature sensors or realign cpu multipliers or cripple the HTT :rolleyes:
hmm you guys using DDR boosters on this board... what do you do with the ram and heat? active cooling? if so how?
Yes, using ddr booster and bh5 combo at 3.3volts. Using 120mm fan to cool ram modules and power suply mosfets.
im using ddrbooster @ 3.1v, cooled with a 80*80FAN attached to my IDE and ATX cable with tiewraps :p:
unfortunately........ :fact: :p: with the older BIOS my rig is not 100% stable @+- 2500Mhz, with this 1B modded it's 100% stable @2500MhzQuote:
Originally Posted by sideeffect
this is :slapass: :slapass: :slapass:
I hate this motherboard :mad: ......or maybe I got 2 stupid processor? I dunno, I'm tired with this, maybe next time if I got a completely new rig :p at this time, considered I'm quite a n00b in ocing, I can say 500Mhz above stock with aircooling and only .5 volt increase is enough
Hell! The same problem that one of my friends had but not with this board.Quote:
Originally Posted by stw500
With an Intel. Changed ram timings, solved the problem.
Maybe my CPU doesn't like u. How ever it shows that I'm runnig at 72-75 Full load.Quote:
Originally Posted by sideeffect
Too bad. Guess thats a bios bug coz I saw that problem even by using the orignal 1.B and 1.9! :(
Bios 1.b dual SPI X24400 cool 2.7ghtz 11 multi and 10 :cool: now on to bios 1.c. :toast:.
cpu z: http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=41377
X2 4400
Xp-90
G skill LE (old version)
PC power & cooling 510 deluxe
So it's raining like crazy here today and I'm looking for something to do. So I pull two sticks of my OCZ TCCD and figure I'll see what I can do with 1 Gig. :eek:
It won't boot past what was stable for four sticks 235 x 11. As a matter of fact it would not boot into windoze past 225 x 11. I've been :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: ing around with this all day. Changing Bios, testing, ect. All I can do now is go back to 4 x 512 :confused:
Could the memory controller on my Sandy be borked?
Not that it's really a big deal as I've been running four sticks almost the whole time I've had this board. Just a puzzelment :stick:
TY :D
Creeper
hey thanks for the replies and ideas guys, anyone by chance have pics to show me how it was done?
on my journey to ddr700
[IMG]http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/9193/imga02431ll.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/8553/imga02440yn.jpg[/IMG]
Heh thats funny :p: Did you have to do any chipset voltage mods msimax?
Your almost up to DDR2 speeds in that pic :cool:
If you find more stable timings in windows for the memory ill make u a custom bios that sets them on bios boot if you want.
@sideefect
I found that the CPU voltages in your 1B TCCD BIOS can't work higher than 1.45volt, why is that
I can achieve 1.6volt but that can only with 1.45volt + 10%
Quote:
Originally Posted by Napoleonic
Thats the VID lock of the processor. Same for all bios versions. Venice, san diego cores and winchester have max VID of 1.45. Newcastle have max of 1.55 and some x2's have max of 1.375/1.40 :p:
but it could be enabled (1.5volt and 1.55)in the older BIOS, so it's only for the new BIOS, isn't it?
Is being stable in super pi 32M enough?
I'm stable in 32M calculation but not in prime :(
No, anything over 1.45v doesn't work in any of the BIOS's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Napoleonic
The only BIOS that can achieve higher then 1.6v without using corecenter is 1.36b which has a working 18% overvolt setting.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mehran
Depends what your using pc for. I ussually overclock to the point where it never crashes pc in anything i use. If it crashes anything i will underclock because i hate crashes:P
I dont much care about prime stable though.
I find that unless my setup can pass 24 hours of Prime then its useless to me. Any less and games are not stable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mehran
For me, SuperPI is useless for testing stability. At settings which the 32MB test will do fine, I can load up HL2 and it will crash with in a few min :P
But like SE said, if its good for what you do, then rock on. If it doesnt crash while you doing your thing, and windows doesn't go corrupt I'd say your good.
But for me its 24Hours of prime or nothing :P
Not to mention I run a few hours of memtest before I even go into windows :P
Concur :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by D3kMatrix
I need some volentares to help out test/push my latest BIOS revision .
EasyBIOS3 with all options based on 7025NMS.1C3 .
So far i've been running it since yesterday with
250x10x4 183mhz 2-3-3-6 1T
and 246x11x4 2.5-3-3-7 1T
and 237x11x4 2.5-3-3-7 1T .
(also stock settings of course )
Ran OCCT and 3dmark03 and normal computing , had no problems yet .
Perfer someone with a spare BIOS chip ( like I have) or saviour just in case .
More details and pics here :
http://forum.msi.com.tw/index.php?topic=88384.0
I asked here with which bios will run greatOpteron 144
and I must answer alone,
I try 1B official and 1B Beta4 by Se
and on both runs good (view signature if you want)
Yes not many people have those chips yet mundi. Even less will have them with a Neo2.
new best for neo2plat
[IMG]http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/1444/oo3ti.jpg[/IMG]
Yes you right, so now all visitors know that runs oki,Quote:
Originally Posted by sideeffect
Here in CZ isnot good to get CABNE, I have CABGE, version tray
With CABNE you can go to 2700-2800MHz with default :slobber: 1,36-1,38 real
So if you can find this GO ON !!!!
Here is link for pictures language is Czech but I think that pictures will do.
http://www.svethardware.cz/art_doc-6...2003E6F56.html
And very imortant is TMaxCase
CABNE have 65
CABGE 57, but can find 55 or 59
Excuse my small OT
Oh yet link for TMaxCase
Hell what kind of bios is this Side Effect?!
WHAT DID U DO?!
VERY VERY EXTREMELY NICE!
Now running 2670 and very stable!
Thx for your effort.
Quote:
Originally Posted by sideeffect
Thx to both of you. Mine is the same as side effect. Not prime stable at all but stable in windows. never craches. I really hate when that happens. But now I should run a few heavy games several times to ensure that my computer is stable.Quote:
Originally Posted by D3kMatrix
Now running fine at 2670 and sandra says my memory bandwidth is 93%.
The best result I got. What do u all think?
SuperPI 1M : 31s.
And of course with that nice bios modded by SE. ;)
Which BIOS mod?
Quote:
Originally Posted by sideeffect
im getting errors in test 5 no matter what voltage, multi and cpu speed. it always falls between 0.0-0.9mb doesnt matter if i swap sticks . i think its the mem controller and i relaxed timmings to 3-6-6-14 same error range :(
so it looks like changing boards wont help i assume
test video
[IMG]http://i1.zvhost.com/1/e/eviu372j.jpg[/IMG]
vid works mane, what you gonna show us?
Can someone quickly explain something for me...?
With the new BIOS revisions that include dual core support there seems to be no AUTO setting for the mem frequency and if i set it to 200 and then raise the htt on the previous BIOS menu then it dosent stay in 1:1 like it used to. Judging by my sandra scores, the only way that i can truly run my system in 1:1 is if i select one of the very limited memclock settings (200,233,250) and then enter the same number in htt on the previos menu.
On the old bios's all you had to do was select auto mem frequeny and then it would scale the ram with the htt in every 1mhz increment or so.
I would just revert back to an older revision but i cannot simply do that as i have an X2. :/
If there's something that i'm missing here i'm real sorry, i only just returned to the OCing scene a few weeks ago hehe.
[edit] I'm using the sideeffect 1b bios.. Would 1c fix this (presuming i'm not just doing something wrong)??
200 is the only setting to keep ur ram 1:1 with your HTT setting.
What makes you think your ram is not clocking 1:1? What programs were u using?
Yes the 200 divider will keep you 1:1 with the HTT. The bios doesnt display that though in the new bios's it rarely shows the correct ram speed. In windows its always right though.
Ok problem is this, running at 280 x 9 with the 150 divider for 2520Mhz and 210Mhz memory speed. It memtests fine 12+ hours, but in Windows it wont run any 3D app and such like, just crashes out or locks up. I have no idea why! HELP!!
Try the 81.84 nvidia drivers Draxx they seem to be more tolerant of high HTT gaming.
Will do, but it turns out that it won't run anything. OCCT, Prime nothing, just crashes or locks up!Quote:
Originally Posted by sideeffect
Makes no sence as the memory memtests fine, the CPU overclock is fine, put them together and nothing :(
I'm just annoyed that I have to run this BH-6 at 180Mhz for the PC to function correctly.
@Draxx
Looks like the intern Mem-Controller of the CPU can't handle high overclock...
That would explain why it is possible to run mem or cpu overclocked, but not together...
It's just luck if your mem-controller is good or not...
But even if I run the CPU at stock and up the FSB with the memory 1:1 it still can't even managa 205Mhz stabily in Windows. This can't surely be the memory controller as E3 cores are meant to beable to run upto 250Mhz memory are they not?
Yes 205 1:1 shouldnt be a problem at all. What bios are you using ?
Perhaps its a problem with the 9x multiplier in the bios that your running. If your using 1.B try 1.8 and if your using 1.8 try 1.b :)
Also the memory might be running to loose. Post a picture in here of athlon 64 tweaker showing your timings.
If someone else has Bh-6 in here also post your memory timings :slap:
Running your 1.B mod ;)
That's strange, i seem to recall that my sandra scores at 2t were about 4500/4500 with 200/260 but when i booted at 233/233 i was getting about 5700!Quote:
Originally Posted by sideeffect
Ill do some more sesting when i get home. Either way this seems realistic because with the 200 divider i can go over 250 fsb and using the 250 divider with 250 fsb i get crashes before it boots into windows.
Ill check in a few hours.. either way clockgen definately dosent scale HTT with ddr speed but i think that i had a good trial & error session without ocing in windows last week.
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Also, when you mention the correct memory speed not being reported in the bios.. does the same go for the reported DDR speed in the boot menu?
Peace