Thanks dude ;) i'll try it later ;)
No... I can't boot at 480 x 8 anyway.... :shrug:
Thanks dude ;) i'll try it later ;)
No... I can't boot at 480 x 8 anyway.... :shrug:
Thanks The Stilt! Flashed my Maximus without a problem :)
I'm currently using BIOS 0214. What bios is best for Q6600, 0214 or 0219? Not getting my Q6600 until next week.
Testing parameters for Twinx/XMS2-8500/C5D:
Twin2x2048-8500C5D Data Sheet
Memory Voltage 2.2 Volts Version 1.x and 2.15 Volts for version 2.x.
Motherboard make and model: Asus P5B or M2N32-SLI Premium/Deluxe Only!
Each pair is tested and packaged together using the following settings:
AI Over Clock Tuner: Manual
OC Operation: Disabled
NOS Operation: Disabled
CPU External Frequency: Manually set to 268 MHz
PCI CLK1: Auto
PCI CLK2: Auto
DDR2 Voltage control: 2.20V Ver 1.x (2.1 Volts for 2.X)
CPU Core Voltage: Auto
CPU Multiplier: 10
DDR2 SDRAM Clock: Manually set to 800MHz
DRAM Timing Selectable: Manual
SDRAM CAS Latency: 5T
SDRAM RAS to CAS Delay (tRCD): 5T
SDRAM Row Precharge (tRP): 5T
SDRAM Active to Precharge Delay (tRAS): 15T
SDRAM Write Recovery Time: 5
1T/2T: 2T
A1 Clock Skew: Auto
ADVANCED Voltage Control:
CPU Vcore offset:-Disabled
DDR2 Termination:-0.5X
CPU to NB HT:_____1.200V
NB to SB HT:______Auto
NB Core/PCI-E:____Auto
SB Core/PCI-E:____Auto
SB Standby core:__+1.500V
All other settings are motherboard defaults.
Maximum DDR2 recommended VDIMM: 2.2 Volts for Rev 1.x and 2.1 Volts for Ver. 2.X
Corsair Memory
I have a little problem with the FSB: DRAM. I can´t seem to find an option in the bios menu to set it to 1:1.
To solve this i have to set the DRAM frequency to 667 in the bios and then change the FSB in windows using Asus AI suite. If i choose 400 fsb in the bios i can´t get my FSB: DRAM to 1:1, it´s set to 5:6. This is with 0907 bios and an E8400.
I´m no expert in any way, maybe i´m totally missing something here?
How difficult is this board to clock? I don't want another DFI Lanparty NF4 experience :D That thing was a nightmare but it did get my 3700+ to 3ghz....
Eastcoasthandle, setup is:
Asus Maximus Formula
E8400
Thermalright 120 ultra extreme
Team Elite pc-6400 2x2gb
8800 gts 512
Hiper 580 psu
Vista 64 home premium
To get 1 : 1 you need to select the correct Dram Frequency. It's usually the 1st few selections from the drop down menu of Dram Frequency. The FSB strap to North Bridge should be OK at Auto. See if that helps any. I am not sure if bios 1004 helps any. Can anyone confirm this?
Yes in 1004 bios if u chose 1st section 667mhz u get 1:1
Just did it, :D :D
Running bios 0219 and couldn't be happier,
Thanks for all the effort and info in this thread, :clap:
Running Xp and crossfired HD3870's and everything works fine, just disabled the second lan port, voltminder and extra temp monitors and xp booted right up,
set everything in bios as it was originally for now, mem performance about the same as before, (2x 1g TeamXtreem Pc6400 @ 533, 4-4-4-12) but with all those new options (to learn and play with) I'm sure I'll get a little extra,
main reason for trying though was the horrible vdroop when overclocking the QX9650, runs 4g (10 x 400) fine at 1.328v under load, but had to be set at 1.425v in bios and idled in the desktop @ 1.392v, now it runs 1.35v set in bios, 1.328v idle and 1.336v under load... :shocked:
Havn't run any extended stability tests yet, but so far so good. :yepp:
THNX ! It's work with Ai Clock Twister Moderate and Relax 1 :up:
P.S Someone know how mutch need for 5Ghz NB, SB voltage ? How max I can set for safe voltage for these settings, I don't want blow my mobo :D :
CPU Voltage : 1.40000v
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.125
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.60 ????
You can't. The lowest divider is 1:1. X38 does not have downward dividers and only nvidia chipsets allow you to unlink the RAM and FSB.
You can do the 1600 fsb default pin-mod. Even though, in this case, the system wil automatically raise the default fsb to 400. Are the dividers not suitable for you? One trick to access all possible dividers on this board is to set the strap AUTO and then go to DRAM FREQUENCY and press ENTER button, you'll have access to all possible dividers. This is helpful if you don't really understand how fsb/strap affects your ram.
Has ne1 been able to boot with 500+ FSB on the 266 strap?
got some 9600 ram here and cant get the bugger to boot
Thing fails to post when I set the DDR speed to anything other than Auto.
halp?
any new beta bios' out recently?
it seemed like we flew through the last 3... and updates? anybody?:shrug:
Guys, could you help me out here please? What BIOS would you recommend for a quad (Q6600) and 8GB ram (4 sticks of 2GB's) The G.Skill PC8500 stuff. Im currently using 0903 and like it alot, but just wondering if there is a better BIOS for using 4 sticks of ram. Thanks
after upgrading to bios 1004, when I goto system properties in XP
its showing 4.05 GHZ not 3.6 GHZ is that normal?
Are there any settings to tweak that might help get PCIe 1.x video cards to work correctly on this board?
With 907 and 1004 BIOS initialization of the video card is inconsistent.
Either I boot up and display will come up fine, or LCD Poster will get to VGABIOS and then one long and three short beeps, no display but system will continue to boot.
Tried setting PCIe clock to 101, 102, 104 but seems to be making it worse so it's at 100 for now.
Well guys that were hitting 3.8 are now getting 4.0 with bios 219
But I would expect to see a few more bios shortly.
219 is definately a good bios, for quad or c2d
I assume you are using 8x450 to get 3.6 ?
If yes, Windows will think it's 9x450 (they can't see the current multiplier, only the FSB so they assume the default multiplier) and show 4050 MHz instead. This is the same as me who used 8x400 for 3.2 GHz and Vista see 3.6 GHz.
so how much better ocing you get with that Rampage Formula bios??
when flashing to the latest bios for the max formula, can i burn the image to cd and reboot with cd as priority? or do you need to use a flash drive.
Is there a way to get my memory lower than 1:1 or unlink the memory because at 450 fsb my DRAM frequency is at 900 and once it gets that high, my system crashes. ( I have a bad pair of crucial ballistix)
Its worth the coversion, much more stable board now.
Overall lower volts for same overclocks
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...er/test2-2.jpg
can someone help me please ?
I can't connect and download the "AFUDOS 2.36" file in the first page.
I want to change to this Rampage to see if the det dram problem go away, thanks
Grab this version of AFUDOS
http://rapidshare.com/files/10175302...229ES.zip.html
you can use that version to flash back to Maximus if you so choose
Oh I suppose, this is for 4.3GHZ if you want to go higher you will need to adjust NB volts to 1.51-1.53
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...r/DSCF0255.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...DSCF0254-1.jpg
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 478
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1147
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 35
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled ( anything above 480FSB change to AUTO will prevent "DET RAM" hang)
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level [7]
Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled
CPU Voltage : what ever you need
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO ( dont argue with what works )
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 2.10
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
This setup has been proven 18 hours Prime stable blend test / 5 hours OCCT
Thanks, I'll try it ;) How mutch can use CPU voltage for 24/7 ?
P.S with your settings I got BSOD... I try use:
CPU Voltage : 1.45v
South Bridge Voltage : 1.125
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.60 but don't help me for stable.. :/
heres 2.36 just in-case you still wanted it:
http://rapidshare.com/files/10177826...ITION.zip.html
hi Grnfinger
After the modd to rampage bios do you experience any of DET DRAM hang ramdomly ?
I'm tire of this board for hanging DET DRAM for almost 2 months of tweaking and changing bios setting, update bios.
I'm thinking about get rid of this board and get the Striker II Extreme 790i when it come out.
I did at first, it was a very frustrating experience. After you learn what the new memory settings do, I have had NO Det Ram hangs unless I'm playing with new settings. I would recommend the coversion to anyone who is not happy with the Maximus "issues"
Man, I'm having a tough time overclocking my QX9650 on BIOS 1004....
It just doesn't scale well at all. 1.26v for 3.6 GHz, then it needs like 1.4 to even get into Windows at 4.0 GHz...
Crazy. I think I'm going to try this bios and see if it makes a difference.
I did a rampage to maximus backflash with just afudos 2.36 and the MF0907 bios works right away :)
i flashed my MF and a have now "Rampage Formula"
shall i use MF drivers or RF drivers ?
lol
I think you mean MF drivers and yes you use the Maximus drivers.
With PL=8 and phases enable you should have better memory bandwidth/latency.
Its a tad better thats for sure:up:
Great difference in L2 cache
PL7 all disabled
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...er/test1-1.png
PL8 all enabled
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...er/test2-3.png
Thanks Stilt and everyone else for all the helpful info in this thread!
Successful P5E to Rampage 219 BIOS! :) Very easy.....now I've got to figure out all these darned settings.
Also, any ideas when the next Rampage bios will be released?
@ Grnfinger why u use PCI-E Frequency: 110 ? Not 100 ?
What do u guys prefer on this board? Should i buy old rev 2x1gb crucial so i get 4x1gb total or should i try to find a nice par of 2x2gb memorys ??
better performance
Guys....Is this really the vCore read point? Because I have it set to 1.4v in the BIOS, it says 1.38v via CPU-Z and I get 1.5V from the DMM!!!! Is this a result of flashing to the Rampage BIOS?
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/5560/vcorewm4.th.jpg
****Update***
BIOS SET: 1.3V
BIOS READ: 1.24
CPU-Z READ: 1.280
DMM READ: 1.45 :wth:
What's goin on?
I agree with ericab 2x2GB will clock easier than 4x1GB sticks and put less stress on the NB
I try to modd to rampage with no success , I got to this part
When DOS has loaded and you see C:\ type in AFU236U /iLOADER.rom and press enter.
I enter AFU236U /iLOADER.rom
but nothing happen, it says bad file name or command, something like that . help please
Hi guys i've switched back and forth between MF and RF a couple of times as I was having some issues with my memory, as I was trouble shooting, I was running memtest2.01 and noticed that in the chipset section it said x38/x48, I was like wtf if I had to RMA this board they would find out, so I went over to my bro-inlaws to check as he has the same unflashed board,ran memtest 2.01 and it also reported it as having chipset x38/x48. I do not know if anyone else has ever noticed this, just thought I would share my findings, if someone else can verify would be great.
^says the same on my P5E. Memtest86 probably just can't tell the difference between x38 and x48 chips because they are basically the same thing.
ok , I have successfully flash to rampage 207, now I need advise on setting, anyone would post there setting for E8400 please ?
You guys do realize that the number of processes running (Xp/Vista) can effect Everest's Cache & Memory Benchmark scores right? Run the benchmarks with 40 processes then run it again with 20 processes and see what you get ;)
I have never understood why people post up screens showing a "difference" of 50mb/sec bandwidth and .2ns latency.
Even on a fresh boot with only a few processes open, try running the benchmark...then run it again immediately afterward. It will be different. I only use it to get a rough estimate of performance changes....but to count on it as an accurate tool is foolish IMO.
Not tried the Skew settings yet but when I get some time I'll give it a go. A few people have reported a minus Skew improved FSB/Ram clocking.
Just upgraded 207 to 219, still can't get 460x8 to post but never could, running 450x8 now (on q6600). I noticed they got rid of speedstep option in bios, but it appears to be enabled which is kind of annoying. CPUz reports 3.6ghz at 1.188v, speedfan reports 1.43v (what it should be), and windows reports 2.13ghz. What a conflict of numbers. Am I actually not running an overclock? is cpuz the best way to check the CLOCK but not the voltage?
I was playing around with my mobo settings and basically Im trying XtremeTiramisu bios settings with some additional changes (marked in red)
my room temps are around: 25c
Bios: 1004
evererest is reporting NB temps of 49c and on load it goes as high as 53c is that safe temps?
as for CPU temps im in high 30's on idle and high 60's on load that should change as Im waiting for my W/C kit to arrive this week
can anyone poing out where I can make some more changes? thanks!
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 465
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1117
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 4
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 9
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 30
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO [More bandwidth]
Ai Clock Twister : STRONG
Transaction Booster : AUTO [More bandwidth]
CPU Voltage : 1.475
NB voltage: 1.61
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.48
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference :0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : ENABLED
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
ok I manage to convert to Rampage bios 219 successfully and seem so far so good, no more hang DET DRAM.
Grnfinger, thank you for advising to do a convert to Rampage bios. Now so far so good, no more hang DET DRAM, seem to be go away.
Ok guys, I need some advice here.
I'm having a hell of a time getting my QX0650 to overclock beyond a certain speed.
At 3.6 GHz 9x400 with 1.26v it's perfect and runs Prime95 all day and all night.
But once I try to bump it up toe 4.0 it just won't do it. I bumped the vcore up to 1.44v and still no love. I think that's a pretty good bump for 400 MHz, no?
My PLL is at 1.5 and my FSBTerm is set at 1.4 in bios (shows at .1 lower in the bios voltage monitor)
Bios 1004 Temps are 64 64 59 60 load with ambient around 20-21. This is on water. Fuzion with an MCP655 and a PA120.2 with 4 Scythe 1200 RPM in push/pull on the rad.
Here are my settings for 4.0GHz. Does about an hour or two in Prime95
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 10
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-961
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 5
Read to Precharge Time : 3
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 4
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 6
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Disabled (1)
CPU Voltage : 1.4125 (1.4 in CPUZ)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.5
North Bridge Voltage : 1.55
DRAM Voltage : 2.00
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.34
South Bridge Voltage : 1.1
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR_REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled
Test 100MHz at a time a 400 MHz is great jump
what is the max fsb that u can do with the P5E rampaged?
hey evryone
i have a qestion
can i flash ASUS P5K-Deluxe to Rampage???
plz toturial step by step ;D
Well the vDIMM point works. Set to 2.12 in bios, getting 2.22 via readpoint
bummer :( please someone tell us the vCore DMM
So far I have reached 460
The P5K uses a completely different chipset (P35)...so it's not possible I'm afraid.
I ran 4x2GB OCZ Reaper DDR2 800 no problems at default, past memtest.
Will be posting my new build soon I just completed it and it seems like it's stable at 3.6GHz, will try pushing RAM next.
Do you guys know why my system properties is show 2.39GHz in Vista 64, with CPUZ it's show 3600MHz like it's supposed to, I'm using 400x9.
well, the rampage bios has let me boot into windows at a higher mhz than ive done before on a maximus... granted its not stable in the slightest bit... but its over 100mhz faster than any other previous attempt
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...2976/zzzzz.jpg
now to stabilize it enough for benchies :D
Well. I did the flash and now am priming at 462x8, I dont have any comparisons as I was limited to 3.6gz 400fsb with MF0907 due to ram instability at more than 800mhz But my bandwith has gone up 2000mb/s on my write and copy bench. I am on PL 9 unfortunately :(
Also tho I do have all the options and the splash screen of the rampage, Everest and cpu-z still say Maximus. Probably some newer versions out there to fix that tho.
I hope I can get 3.8 for 24/7 with the rampage bios!
[IMG]http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...s/462x8MRF.jpg[/IMG]
Vcore is at 1.42v
Temps are 67 67 56 62 ---> I think I need to re-seat my Fuzion block, although I was getting strange temps with my TRUE as well. Same pattern, with cores 0 and 1 much higher than 2 and 3. Ambient is about 20-21 degrees, maybe 22. The IHS is uneven.
PLL is at minimum (1.5v) and FSBTerm is at 1.34v
once again...
TO AVOID ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT EVEREST/SYTEM INFORMATION UTILITY NOT READING THE PROPER MOTHERBOARD, PLEASE DO A FRESH INSTALL OF THE OS.
not yelling, just wanted to make it noticable :)
*also*
anybody do teaming on the nic's? if so, is there a difference in say... in game ping?
May i turn P5E3 into smth on X48, perhaps P5E3 Premium??
ZenEffect
But they have different layots. Actually I dont see full analouge of P5E3 on X48.
Guys transaction Booster and AI clock Twister are not working with the RIPPER series...Unless you set them on Auto...Ideas ?
Hi,
I think someone here did it already, but I couldn't find any specific statement about it when I was skmming through the posts.
I am currently using a normal MF Rev. 1.03G board here.
Has anybody successfully crossflashed the Maximus with a Rampage BIOS?
If so, any issues? Anything special to be considered when doing that?
Which method did you use? Turn off the PC when flashing and then load a FORMULA.ROM renamed Rampage BIOS from a memory stick?
Anyway, infos welcome!
Check out this thread:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=179580
Thanks a bunch! Going through it.
we ran into a problem like that.. the clip that holds the cpu in the mother board was warping the cover on the cpu. it was a lapped quad and was flat to begin with. after weird temps removed the cooler and could see where the clip warped it. used a razor blade edge.. removed the clip off the board, checked it again and it was flat. just used the back plate to hold the cpu and cooler to the mother board without the clip and it fixed the problem..
How mutch can use CPU voltage for 24/7 ? 1.35v or 1.45v ? :confused:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...160849&page=52
already been done :up:
I would like to do this MOD on my Maximus Formula but just have 2 questions:
1. Will this work for a DDR2 motherboard?
2. What is the OCing potential with 8GB of ram (4x2gb sticks of g.skill PC8500)
Thanks