DFI looks to have a winner here.

Here it is a challenge for the enthusiasts of the DFI Lanparty UT NF3250GB (uff..what a big name the DFI marketing created):

1st– Drop the multiplier for 5X or less;
2nd -Put the memory at 150,
3rd - Use 2 sticks of BH-5 RAM at at 2-5-2-2
4rd - Rise the HTT for 350 or more

And see if it runs SuperPI (I’m not asking for a good score)…

With my "old" Gigabyte K8N (Nforce 150), I can run SuperPI with FSB (HTT) at 380 (I pick only this screen capture, because I was chasing the A64 3400+ record).

http://home.kqnet.pt/wo034892/28SecSuperPI.jpg

Show me this board can really beat my good old unexpensive KN8Pro ..

Please convince me that the DFI DFI Lanparty UT NF3250GB it is a little more than one (a very good one, I must admit) marketing scheme..

Please don’t came with the BS.. arguing that I only obtained this high HTT because I use the Best Dual Cascade of the Planet (Ricky’s Dual Cascade, of course) - if you put down the multiplier for 5x or less, you are at lower CPU speed than stock..right..

Let’s wait for the results..

:toast:

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Originally Posted by trans am

I have it enabled and during post it says 1T still. are you sure about that? I also tried the drive strength settings. 4 was good. but 1 made the system cold boot and no post. So I think 4 is probably the setting tony was talking about.
I really wish I could go past this 300ht barrier so I can get some more from this EB 3700. I seem to do 270 at 3-3-2-10 1T ok but anything over is no good. even at 3-3-3-10 there was no difference. 260x10 at 1:1 for now.
:( notice in the cpuz screenie, I messed up in the bios and had my TRAS at 2 LOL. I fixed it since. what settings are best for TRC and TRFC? right now it's trc 12 and trfc 16.

I tried 269*9.5 at 1:1 and that seems to work pretty well.

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That works on mine, changes it to 2t, but doesn't seem to affect anything. On a similar note, I tried changing my CAS from 2 to 3, and it wouldn't post. I had to clear CMOS to boot up again. :( I really thought that would make this BH-5 fly. Maybe if we had an option for CAS 2.5? I'm still using the stock BIOS, so I dunno about the newer ones.

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Originally Posted by trans am

I have it enabled and during post it says 1T still. are you sure about that? I also tried the drive strength settings. 4 was good. but 1 made the system cold boot and no post. So I think 4 is probably the setting tony was talking about.
I really wish I could go past this 300ht barrier so I can get some more from this EB 3700. I seem to do 270 at 3-3-2-10 1T ok but anything over is no good. even at 3-3-3-10 there was no difference. 260x10 at 1:1 for now.
:( notice in the cpuz screenie, I messed up in the bios and had my TRAS at 2 LOL. I fixed it since. what settings are best for TRC and TRFC? right now it's trc 12 and trfc 16.

I tried 269*9.5 at 1:1 and that seems to work pretty well.

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so how does this board compare to your chaintech?

yay 23k with my 9800pro :) http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8120308
a slight bump in vga core and ram timings did it. tras "0" lol now i need to get an OCZ ddr booster

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Originally Posted by Boyne7

yay 23k with my 9800pro :) http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8120308
a slight bump in vga core and ram timings did it. tras "0" lol now i need to get an OCZ ddr booster

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You can't just mod your pus's 3.3v rail? That would be cheaper, and take less time then buying an ocz ddr booster.

@Transam
Well, it works this way for my Ram ?!?!
With the half multis my mem score in Sandra dropped by around 300 points as expected :( The 2T command also really slows down the mem...
Playing around with the settings gave me a bit of increase, but nothing really worth mentioning (50 points or so in Sandra)...
Did not have time to check out the drive strength settings though, will hv to see what 4 allows for

@pedro
I think the REAL challenge is to get it booted with those settings from bios ! ClockGen seems to hv problems with this board when it comes to lowering the multis :(

1. (1)CommandPerClock ENabled = 1t, disabled = 2T :rolleyes:

2. Pi thingie - Perhaps this weekend.

I am tried both 330+ (7.5x, 150 Div) and 350+ (7x, 140 Div) w/ FSB at about 245 and memtest does fine.

May have to lower the mult when I run windows, but vcore is only at 1.525-1.5 for now.

I'm not convinced that this board is all that much better than the vnf-250 yet (was running that at 8x300 w/fsb of 250, less BW. Even though you couldn't adjust much stuff, then defaults were pretty good (for all the stuff that you can fiddle w/ in A64 Tweaker).

Fiddling w/ this board has gotten me educated enough that I migh even get some performance out of my gigajunked k8ns-pro board now that I have an idea what to tweak and knowing that that board does have alot of the same tweaks :D Gotta find time to revisit that later.

Will try this out ASICFIN (as soon as I can fit it in).

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yes, is it your bh5 or your eb in that board?! omg i mso excited, one more week and ill be going A64!!!!!

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I think I was running 140 divider. The act. mem FSB was about 245-250 and I hadn't fiddled w/ all the stuff setting wise. I can give settings (when I have time to revisit them, life is nuts as usual) for equal bandwidth at a given memFSB for both bh5(2226 or 2227, I fergit) or EB3700(3226) (2x.5G). (There are some slight setting differences, but nothing major)

I can never seem to get to 250 w/ what I would consider acceptible BW stable, and raising FSB didn't work. I have been at a point when the max BW at 250 was 1812MB/sec in memtest.

BTW, should I concentrate of the bh5 which seems to go a couple of FSB higher and w/ the faster Latencies, or should I fight w/ the EB 3700 (one stick is for sure 250FSB/1812, the other maxes hard at about 243/1730MB, so of course the lower one is the limit) Of course I found out from Bigtoe that they don't have anymore like my good stick if I wanted to try for a replacement (my curse w/ memory)

HTT as been up to 360 (140 div). Forget what I went to at 133, (BW went down) and 120/100 div. don't POST.:mad:

Haven't been over 400 yet, maybe trie just for the heck of it this weekend if I have time....

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yes, is it your bh5 or your eb in that board?! omg i mso excited, one more week and ill be going A64!!!!!

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Its kingston BH5 256MB

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Originally Posted by Pedro Rocha

Here it is a challenge for the enthusiasts of the DFI Lanparty UT NF3250GB (uff..what a big name the DFI marketing created):

1st– Drop the multiplier for 5X or less;
2nd -Put the memory at 150,
3rd - Use 2 sticks of BH-5 RAM at at 2-5-2-2
4rd - Rise the HTT for 350 or more

And see if it runs SuperPI (I’m not asking for a good score)…

With my "old" Gigabyte K8N (Nforce 150), I can run SuperPI with FSB (HTT) at 380 (I pick only this screen capture, because I was chasing the A64 3400+ record).

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Yeah with what HTT multiplier?

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@Transam
Well, it works this way for my Ram ?!?!
With the half multis my mem score in Sandra dropped by around 300 points as expected :( The 2T command also really slows down the mem...
Playing around with the settings gave me a bit of increase, but nothing really worth mentioning (50 points or so in Sandra)...
Did not have time to check out the drive strength settings though, will hv to see what 4 allows for

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The half multi's made your scores drop? in which test? bandwidth? cpu? My friend klisp has this board too and he said that when he used dimm 2, 3 the board ran at 2t and using 1 and 3 or 1 and 2 the board ran at 1t. Weird huh? Someone mentioned a beta bios that came out on 9/14 (not the one that fixed the mobile issue that oskar made,) but it's a different one that allows 3.4vdimm. but you need to raise the rail on you psu. I have a powerstream with adjust. rails. could I use the bios in question with the adjustable rails? Does anyone have a link to it?

(BOSHI)
so how does this board compare to your chaintech?

It''s better and the temps actually work. much better support thanks to oskar wu. and the voltage options alone make it worth the extra money. But my total cpu clock hasn't really changed. But then again I can get much more from my EB 3700 with the higher vdimm. My ram couldn't go past 250mhz on the vnf3-250 and with the dfi with 3.1v I can hit 270mhz! It huge difference in bandwidth tests.

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That works on mine, changes it to 2t, but doesn't seem to affect anything. On a similar note, I tried changing my CAS from 2 to 3, and it wouldn't post. I had to clear CMOS to boot up again. :( I really thought that would make this BH-5 fly. Maybe if we had an option for CAS 2.5? I'm still using the stock BIOS, so I dunno about the newer ones.

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BH-5 doesn't work with CAS3.

Anybody know what coolers are compatible with the board? or if the Zalmans are compatible?

The memory I have now seems to not be fully compatiable with the DFI...

Every once in awhile I get memory dump errors. I am running Infineon 2 512 sticks.

And for some reason when I changed BIOS version I can't load @ 230 FSB anymore. Does anyone have a link to a updated BIOS? Maybe I can fix this memory issue until I can afford some new RAM.

Upped my fortron 3.3 line to 3.4 and was okay. Could prolly up it more but not worth it to me. Aiming for 3.1/3.2. My BH-5 seems to be better for BW than my EB (can reach higher FSB at settings for equivalent BW.)

When testing FSB isn't everything, BW is what counts,
(except in regards to CPU speed vs BW). My memory can go for higher FSB w/ changing the upteen various settings but the bandwidth limit seems to be pretty much constant for a given stick of memory. Talk about qualitative / intuitive multi-variable analysis! :confused:

As for cooling zalman, hyper6, and others fit fine, search / google is your friend.....

I have Fortron Source 530-Watt and I also need to open the voltages up so I can achieve higher overclocks. When I take my vacation I will have lots more time to play with this. But until then I will sit here at a very stable 2.2GHz. Good enough to play a game or two when I want to. I also took one of my 512 sticks out to see if I still get the memory dump errors. *crosses fingers*

*edit* Still not compatiable for some strange reason...I have been running this for days up until now and I changed BIOS version and it is still doing this...I even tried going back to the shipped BIOS and still the same thing. Someone please help me out...

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Anybody know what coolers are compatible with the board? or if the Zalmans are compatible?

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The Zalman 7000 work..that is what I am running and it stays pretty cool. my CPU runs about 35 to 37 idle.

Bios Link

I don't see why you wouldn't use the bios with the mobile fix. It is just the beta bios, but without the boot bug for mobiles, and still has vdim mod.

Alright I'll give that a try. To add to it... I ram MemTest and I recieve no errors with the RAM @ 220 @ 2.3-3-3-10 @ v2.9

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Ok I got the BIOS Update for that...not sure if it has fixed my problem as of yet...But I can't load windows clocked at anything higher than 2.2 anymore and I still can't figure out why...I have even tried loading defaults and just clocking it straight at 2.3 and it wont. Before I started all the BIOS chaning to fix other problems I was running 2.3 just fine as normal usage and trying to hit 2.4+ for benchmarking. Does anyone have any answers to why this could be..?

*EDIT Again* lol

Ok so I am messing around with it alittle more now and I am getting alitle better and figuring out what works with this board. I am still very new to overclocking but I am learning.

ugp witch Zalman 7000 do u have? and what other Zalman 7000 models give? :)

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ugp witch Zalman 7000 do u have? and what other Zalman 7000 models give? :)

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I have the Zalman CNPS7000A-Cu

Right now I am at 275x8.0 and my CPU is idling at 33-35C

To me that isn't bad.

And to add a question to others...what are safe FSB speeds on Air cooling like I have? I don't want to go to far and damage my system. I don't have the money to replace anything right now

I had mine 325x8 but that was with a thermalright 948u and a tornado. High voltage. didnt run it that long because i though my chip would die. no bad for 600mhz overclock on air.

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Anybody know what coolers are compatible with the board? or if the Zalmans are compatible?

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I'm using the Swiftech MCX64-V on mine. I just used the screws from the bracket, and the stock yellow backplate, without Swiftech's spring tensioners. Works great, as long as your halfways careful about torqueing it down. :cool: BTW, I grabbed that BIOS right away yesterday, but since my Mobile 3000+ (1.8 stock) already runs fine @ 2.4 GHz., I'm just a tad leery of tryin' it, lol.

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Originally Posted by shafty

I had mine 325x8 but that was with a thermalright 948u and a tornado. High voltage. didnt run it that long because i though my chip would die. no bad for 600mhz overclock on air.

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How high was the voltage?