If your FSB is the problem, then switching to the 333/667 strap may allow it to be stable by increasing the latencies. Basically just a test to see if the FSB is your problem or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by hotchoc
If your FSB is the problem, then switching to the 333/667 strap may allow it to be stable by increasing the latencies. Basically just a test to see if the FSB is your problem or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by hotchoc
well it didn't work :(
Basically at stock vcore, vfsb, vmich @ 5-5-5-15 timings i am able to pull it off at 3Ghz. Anything above it is kinda unstable even if i up the vcore, vfsb or vmich.
2.0 volts isn't high.
ballistix have 2.2 volts default.
g.skill's are rated to 2.4 (8000HZ's)
ocz have mem that are warrantied to 2.52 volts
1.88 is nothing. 1.92 is nothing.
i'd give it 2.2.
i dun think upping the memory volts will do anything cuz i'm not ocing the mem btw. correct me if i'm wrong though.
Anyone using AHCI and Vista64 ?
Also with PET enabled in BIOS ?
Thats 2 things i want to do with the new install of Vista64, but not sure if it needs the stupid F6 drivers - be better if it didnt.
still didn't work.
try one stick.Quote:
Originally Posted by hotchoc
What are your temps under load? If they aren't too high try upping the voltage, if they are high try increasing the fan speed and see if you can bring them down. I know my 4300 was very sensitive to temps, it would be stable with the side of the case off but fail with it closed, that kind of thing. I'd say anything under 70C at load is fine for testing purposes (maybe a trifle hot for 24/7).
my temps are like 53-55 load
idle is about 42-45
If you are only in the 50s under load you can try upping the CPU voltage some more and see if that helps. At some point you will hit a wall where the amount of voltage required for the oc is generally not worth it, but I don't know that you've hit that spot yet. Try upping the volts to 1.5 and see if that gets it stable. If so you have to decide if you are comfortable with it at that voltage, if it isn't stable there then you might just be out of luck or something else is your bottleneck, like the NB.Quote:
Originally Posted by hotchoc
I'll give it a try. Where's gtj anyway ?
tried a stick of ram as well. same results
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/9...resultsya7.jpg
These are my results so far. Notice that anything above 333FSB (red onwards) will result in errors in either Orthos, Xp or OCCT. Is there something wrong? I've tried everything already !!!!!!
I dual boot and have Vista x64 Ultimate as my alternate OS. Go ahead and install Vista in normal sata mode then do the following after installing your chipset inf from Intel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunnz Akimbo
The AHCI driver is part of Vista so if you have your SATA drives in IDE mode and want to switch to AHCI do the below registry edit:
1. Exit all Windows-based programs.
2. Click Start, type regedit in the Start Search box, and then press ENTER.
3. If you receive the User Account Control dialog box, click Continue.
4. Locate and then click the following registry subkey:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Msahci
5. In the right pane, right-click Start in the Name column, and then click Modify.
6. In the Value data box, type 0, and then click OK.
7. On the File menu, click Exit to close Registry Editor.
Source:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922976
Then go into your BIOS and set AHCI for your SATA drives. Upon boot Vista will install the proper driver and you'll be set.
I think i screwed up big time:
1. I went to bios to load default settings but i FORGOTTEN to set by drive config as RAID
2. Load into XP and found out the Intel Matrix Storage wasn't working (saying some plugin was missing)
3. Reboot my comp and went into bios to enable the raid thingy
4. Reboot and tried to enter XP but i got this msg:
windows could not start because the following file is missing or corrupted: Windows\System32\Config\System You can attemp to repair this by starting windows setup using the original setup CD-rom, Select 'R' at the first screen to start repair
5. tried repairing the file via RAID (on) but it says no hard disks are detected when i loaded the xp cd
6. am currently running the system as IDE
HELP !!!!
you can't do RAID after you've already set it up as IDE.
i tried that as well and it wouldn't work.
silly question anyway i was digging around and found an AUDIGY SoundBlaster Card model SB0090, my question is would this be better than the crappy on board sound on the BX2 just curious, thanks
Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by neonflx
can i try to repair the system folder?Quote:
Originally Posted by shimmishim
i currently have 3 partitions and everytime i want to repair the particular partition which XP is installed it will install a new XP OS in the other partition. How do 'direct' the XP repairs to the specific partition. Do you get me ?
Hello, I thought I'd write in your thread since I need advice on overclocking using the same cpu/mobo. This is what happened when I simply increased FSB to 334. nothing else:
-> http://img378.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3ghzmemju8.png (Intel Stock Cooler)
SuperPI 1M said 17s, no proof on the screen though.
Got any advice on how I should overclock different? what divider would you people use?
I've decided to ditch the Asus P5W-DH Deluxe for this BX2 board. I understand the BIOS' are quite different though, and the BX2 has a huge assortment of options and tweaks. I've been following this thread for a while, but there still seems to be no BIOS reference post with all the preferred settings that are as a start an absolute must for best overclocking performance.
Have I missed it? FWIW, I have an E6600 CPU, which I can do 3.2Ghz on the Asus board at default settings/voltages.
this is a stupid motherboard for raid, thats its only downfallQuote:
Originally Posted by shimmishim
on any asus 975 chipset you can set up with a single drive then
close pc down connect 2 hard drives set Raid, confirgure with intel matrix
then still boot up, then install matrix raid drivers all from windows
and still keep the single drive as IDE
how can asus do it with the intel 975 chipset yet intel cant?
have to reinstall everything. lucky i made a backup b4 then. now i don't know whether to chuck my files into my raid hd. i have files which are like 5-10 yrs old
Damn thats all BS. What are you talking about??:stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by nanoprobe32
thats what my board requires for in order to get raidQuote:
Originally Posted by STaRGaZeR
to work, revision 504 bios 25
if you install windows in IDE mode on 1 single harddisc
then close down pc, set RAID mode then connect to 2 further hard discs
setup raid thru intel matrix, soon as pc trys to boot it just restarts
only way to get it to bootup is by installing windows and using F6 to load drivers from floppy
is my motherboard faulty?:banana:
No, itīs totally normal if you are using de RAID volume created to boot windows. On this board and on everyone with a RAID controller...Quote:
Originally Posted by nanoprobe32
Any help in regards to this:
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/9...resultsya7.jpg
Did i hit a so called fsb wall ?
It seems like a pretty early wall if so. You should be able to get more than 333 out of that system. Have you tried taking your settings (voltages and such) from the high FSB like 380 and using them at a lower FSB like 350 to see what happens. It looks like you are ramping the voltages along with FSB but you might have better success trying the higher voltages earlier to see what happens. I think 3.0 at 1.325 is not going to work, while 3.0 at 1.375 might. It sounds like a CPU problem to me, because you probably don't need much extra voltage on the MCH and FSB to get to 350 - for me I didn't need to go above default until 350, and even then I'm only at one click above default at 370, so 1.6 for 345 seems like overkill.
vcore of 1.5 for a FSB of 350 is just crazy dun u think so ????
For everyday use, absolutely (to me at least). But its a good way to check and see whether it will work. Problem is, you don't know what is holding you back. One way to find out is up all your voltages to a point where you aren't comfortable for everyday use and see whether you can get the OC you want. If not, then you are screwed. If you can, then you can start backing stuff off to find out what the limiting factor is. I know other guys do it other ways, like gradually upping voltages as you up speeds, but I like to find out if what I want is feasible and then play around from there. If no combination lets you run at 350 then you can start trying lower speeds until you find one that works for you - but at least you'd know whether 350 is feasible. And I would go ahead and give your memory 2.0 volts at all speeds - it is designed to run at 2.0 so give it what it wants. You might be able to back it down some after you get stable if it is underclocked, but for now give it what it is looking for.Quote:
Originally Posted by hotchoc
Will do mate. So what i should do is up the vcore say 1.5 and start of with 350 fsb right? After that i'll be either scaling up or scaling down the fsb till it reaches its peaks point. Correct?
What should i do with vfsb and vmch?
Thks for the help.
I´d up the mem voltage aswell, them gskill ought to be able to handle 2.2v, how do they hold up in memtest? I´d start with making sure the ram is good, letting memtest run for atleast 2-3h at their rated speed and stock volt on the ram in order to ensure they are not what holing you back.
tried that b4. ran for like 5 hrs. rams are ok.
maybe your chip just can't do more than 9x333.
i know it seems sort of low for an overclock but not all chips are created equal.
the only other thing i can tell you to try is another set of memory.
There is an MCH fan connector near the CPU, what is an MCH fan?
I think you're supposed to use that one if you replace the NB-heatsink with a fan.
How does the stock NB heatsink do for removing heat?
I can't tell yet because I haven't started serious overclocking.
Does an AS5 treatment seem needed in general or is it something of a waste of time?
Also, I could go after-market heatsink. If anyone has gone this route, what has worked well for you?
Working on this... GTJ's Intel 975XBX2 GuideQuote:
Originally Posted by hotchoc
Still very much a work in progress.
Damn that`s impressive, you have really put some time in this project! :banana: :banana: :banana:Quote:
Originally Posted by gtj
I will surely bookmark that page, excelent work and thank you very much!
Thks for the guide. Bookmarked :)Quote:
Originally Posted by gtj
Can you assist me in my vcore and vfsb problem which i''m having ?
Thks
Seems to keep mine okay - it's hot but not too hot, but I'm only at 370 with a slight increase in voltages. I've seen reports of people using the Thermalright HR-05s - I would go that way myself but I can't fit one around my HSF.Quote:
Originally Posted by Speederlander
Thanks so much for working on this :) I am definately bookmarking it.Quote:
Originally Posted by gtj
I'm currently using bios 2395 from 12/20/06. Things have been running a little glitchy for me since someone accidently shut off the fusebox to my room a few nights ago, took me over an hour just to get the computer to post again. I was wondering if the bios info could have been damaged and was thinking of updating it but I see you have 2333 as most stable, is it difficult and would it be recommended to instead go back to 2333, I am not very savvy on flashing the bios and probably would leave things alone if they were completely stable at the moment, but they are not :(
System is:
Intel D975XBX2 motherboard
Core 2 Duo E6700 Conroe (currently at stock 2.66, was 3.3-3.4ghz), stock Intel cooler
CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (currently at autodetected 1.84v, manual set to 233/566) 5-5-5-18
GeForce 8800GTX 768MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16
PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750W Power Supply
LIAN LI PC-V1000BPlus II Case
Western Digital Raptor 74GB 10,000 RPM SATA150
Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD3200KS 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb
Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Pro
Not sure if any other specs needed.
I'd be happy getting back to 3.3ghz stable. I was actually running it fine at 3.3 then at 3.4ghz for a while, running mostly the game Oblivion at high settings, when I realized I'd forgotten to do an Orthos run at that setting, it "beeped" me pretty early so I backed down to 3.27 or so. Right now 3.3ghz without issues would make me happy but since the power thing, things have been glitchy.
Main issue right now, is sometimes it seems fine then other times it fails to post, not even anything on the monitor, and I have to go back to jiggling jumpers and rebooting to get it to boot again with anything on the monitor, sometimes it switches memory back to 266/800 even when I set it to 266/533.
Is it likely that flashing to 2333 would be an improvement?>
Btw, anybody tried removing the northbridge ? How do u remove it btw?
Might try to replace my nb with the Thermalright HR-05 to see if it helps. IS the nb cooler compatible btw ?
Use these settings and find FSBs that are stable. Watch your temps.Quote:
Originally Posted by hotchoc
Vcore = 1.5
Vmch = 1.6
Vfsb = 1.4
266/533
Couldn't hurt but I'd either go with 2333 or get the latest which is 2674.Quote:
Originally Posted by brash_endeavors
Quote from GTJ's Intel 975XBX2 GuideQuote:
Originally Posted by hotchoc
"Getting the MCH heatsink off takes about 10 seconds with no tools. You just spread the fins that hold the black retaining brackets and rotate the brackets outward. "
:)
What kind of crap do they put on the SB as a TIM? 91% Isopropyl hardly even touched it, I ended up ordering some Arctic Cleaner which should be her mid-week.
Try a little acetone.Quote:
Originally Posted by SiGfever
Oh yeah...
Quote from GTJ's Intel 975XBX2 Guide
"...For the ICH, don't bother. It's pretty much isolated from overclocking effects and doesn't put out enough heat to worry about. Don't even bother replacing the TIM. The ICH heatsink is much more firmly attached to the chip and if you're not careful you can cause some damage getting it off. "
:)
for the NB (which was pretty difficult to remove as well), I used goo gone. it worked like a charm!Quote:
Originally Posted by SiGfever
I think that Arctic Clean is Orange Cleaner mixed with water. I could be wrong but it sure smells nice. If it doesnt work, try some goof off. Goof off removes thermal tape quick. Just dont spill it all over the place.
Isn't it just wonderful? Thanks GTJ.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by gtj
Thanks guys, since I am using a MCW30 on my NB I decided to use my MCX159-CU on the SB. A little twist to break the TIM loose and it came off o-k.
You're the man!Quote:
Originally Posted by gtj
Bookmarked.
and thank you!
is the swiftech fan noisy ? am thinking of getting it as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by SiGfever
GTJ
Great Guide
No, not at all, I have been very pleased with this cooler.Quote:
Originally Posted by hotchoc
Wonder if Penryn will work in the BX2.
OK i started back at 333X9 all at stock levels.
Let's say i were to increase the FSB to say 340 and it fails, most likely i will be increasing the vcore. Let's say that it fails as well, will i be increasing the vFSB or vMCH ?
How do you know which one to increase? vFSB, Vcore or VMCH? You have to juggle with 3 probabilities here.
Left my memory at 266:533 (1:1) and vdimm at 2.0V to underclock it and to focus more on the CPU first. Is this correct?
At this point you may want to just increase all 3 and get it to work. Then you can start lowering each and see where it breaks again. Go up to 1.4 Vfsb, 1.6 Vmch and 1.5 Vcore and see what happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by hotchoc
I would think "yes" with a BIOS update but I guess we won't know until Intel makes more info available.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blacklash
Awesome work on the guide gtj. I'll be printing it when you have it completed. :toast:
If I run a RAID card on the 3rd PCI-e, does that drop the first PCI-e to x8 electrical?
can you expand on this a bit, gtj?Quote:
Originally Posted by gtj
the whole "1:1 ratio" was drilled into my head as the "best" when i started here... but a few brave souls said they thought a 2:3 or 4:5 gives better results...
care to shed some more light?
fyi: im running a 4:5 ratio now, and dont really notice a difference either way.
Well I think I've screwed up my RAM. The system is now Orthos Blend unstable (bombs immediately) after approximately 8-12 hours of idle operation. I come home and my VMWare is spewing errors and the system is generally wonky. The VMWare instance at 128 MB RAM is new so it could be an issue but the problem seems hardware related.
I've gradually reduced my volts and clocks to near stock. All stock on the CPU, the mem is around 2.2 or 2.3V. Everything in my gut says the RAM is unstable. It's not the CPU clocks so now I'll need to start over and gradually work them back up again. The problem is somewhat more severe with high CPU clocks (380+) but it doesn't really have much of an effect vs. 266 MHz. So it's clearly the RAM.
The G.skill site says 2.2-2.4V. When I started it was OK at 1.8V and I quickly got it up to 2.2V. I eventually got to 2.4V and it's not helping this problem. How much further should I push it? I feel like it's a wild goose chase though. I also noticed after pushing the ram to 2.4V that a quick jump down to 2.2V was not bootable, it had to rest for a while. It seems most comfortable around 2.38V but right now it's just never stable.
I think I should start the RAM at the current 2.38V and beat on it with memtest for a minimum of 18 hours and try increasing the volts again if it is unstable, maybe going past 2.4 even though it's not even overclocked. I'd like to find a quicker way to determine that the memory is bad (maybe OCCT?), it's very odd that the system has to sit idle for 8 hours before the problem kicks in.
No. The first 2 PCI-e slots are hung directly off the MCH and do share the same 16 lanes. The 3rd is electrical x4 and is hung off the ICH.Quote:
Originally Posted by Speederlander
I may have been one of those who said 1:1 is the best but after doing the math and running benchmarks, I've changed my mind and may have to apologize for making statements without evidence to back them up. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by argylesocks
1:1 sounds nice. The FSB and memory are running at the same clock speeds so that must be the most efficient, right? All other things being equal, maybe 1:1 is more efficient that 4:5 but the reality is somewhat different.
The fact is that any "efficiency" the MCH may see is vastly overwhelmed by another fact.... Data passing between the processor and memory is limited by the SLOWEST link. If your FSB is running at 8 GB/s and your memory bus is running at 6 GB/s, then data can only pass between the processor and memory at 6 GB/s. PERIOD. If moving your ratio from 1:1 to 4:5 brings the memory bus to 7 GB/s that's a 17% increase. Gee, so it may not be as efficient as 1:1. Who Cares? Honestly, I can't even find any documentation to support that there was any efficiency loss in the first place.
This is easy to test. Set your FSB to a value that let's you run 1:1 plus either 2/3 or 4/5 reliably. Run an Everest Cache and Mmeory benchmark at 1:1, then without changing anything else, set a 2/3 or 4/5 and run the benchmarks again. Throughput should go up and latency should go down. What a concept. :)
Setting say FSB to 400... Then running 266ref and mem at 533 gives you DDR2 800 1:1 but if you set 667 it gives you ddr2 1000 4:5 and if you keep the same timings and FSB of course its going to be faster and have lower latency you changed the memory frequency to 500 instead of 400. Or am I reading what you said wrong?Quote:
Originally Posted by gtj
Ive been experimenting with ratios again as well. Now that its getting hot outside, I decided to switch to my "summer overclock" so I dropped my fsb to run my e6600 @ 3.0 instead of my max 3.4. Running at 3.0 actually underclocked my memory lower than the maximum recommended 400Mhz with a 1:1 ratio, so I moved up to ref 266 and mem at 667. Now my memory is a 4:5 ratio, running at 417 MHz and completely stable. I havent done any benchmarks, but I would assume that since my memory is mildly overclocked now instead of underclocked my system should run a little faster. Or I could be totally wrong. :D
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaosMinionX
At 400 MHz, your FSB thoughput is 12.8 GB/s.
At 1:1 your memory throughput is 6400 MB/s.
At 4:5 your memory throughput is 8000 MB/s.
It's simple math. 8000 is better than 6400.
If anyone decides to test this, go ahead and run some other tests as well to see what kind of benefit this has in the real world. Maybe some game benchmarks or SuperPi (actually, that's probably not memory intensive) - anyway something to verify that it is better to run asynch.Quote:
Originally Posted by gtj
Yes, but of course running a higher memory is going to be faster regardless of 1:1 or 4:5, but 400fsb 1:1 DDR2 800mhz on 533 is going to run faster than say 319fsb 4:5 DDR2 800mhz on 667 mem frequency.Quote:
Originally Posted by gtj
So Its not necessarily an ideal comparison just that your memory is being overclocked by doing so, so of course it would be faster. Or am I interpreting your statement wrong gtj?
EDIT: However to Contribute to your statement regarding bandwidth..... heres a quick bench I did.
FSB: 400mhz / ref freq. 266 / mem ref 533 DDR2 800 1:1 3-3-3-6
--------[ EVEREST Ultimate Edition 2007 (c) 2003-2007 Lavalys, Inc. ]---------------------------------------------------
Version EVEREST v3.80.951 Beta
Benchmark Module 2.1.184.0
Homepage http://www.lavalys.com/
Report Type Quick Report
Computer DEUSEXMACHINA
Generator AjaX
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Professional 5.1.2600 (WinXP Retail)
Date 2007-04-03
Time 23:28
--------[ Memory Read ]-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Xeon 3060 3600 MHz Intel Bad Axe 2 D975XBX2 i975X Dual DDR2-800 3-3-3-6 9917 MB/s
--------[ Memory Write ]------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Xeon 3060 3600 MHz Intel Bad Axe 2 D975XBX2 i975X Dual DDR2-800 3-3-3-6 7270 MB/s
--------[ Memory Copy ]-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Xeon 3060 3600 MHz Intel Bad Axe 2 D975XBX2 i975X Dual DDR2-800 3-3-3-6 7210 MB/s
--------[ Memory Latency ]----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Xeon 3060 3600 MHz Intel Bad Axe 2 D975XBX2 i975X Dual DDR2-800 3-3-3-6 43.5 ns
FSB: 400mhz / ref freq 266 / mem ref 667 DDR2 1000 4:5 4-4-4-12
--------[ EVEREST Ultimate Edition 2007 (c) 2003-2007 Lavalys, Inc. ]---------------------------------------------------
Version EVEREST v3.80.951 Beta
Benchmark Module 2.1.184.0
Homepage http://www.lavalys.com/
Report Type Quick Report
Computer DEUSEXMACHINA
Generator AjaX
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Professional 5.1.2600 (WinXP Retail)
Date 2007-04-03
Time 23:32
--------[ Memory Read ]-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Xeon 3060 3600 MHz Intel Bad Axe 2 D975XBX2 i975X Dual DDR2-1000 4-4-4-12 10014 MB/s
--------[ Memory Write ]------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Xeon 3060 3600 MHz Intel Bad Axe 2 D975XBX2 i975X Dual DDR2-1000 4-4-4-12 7293 MB/s
--------[ Memory Copy ]-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Xeon 3060 3600 MHz Intel Bad Axe 2 D975XBX2 i975X Dual DDR2-1000 4-4-4-12 7749 MB/s
--------[ Memory Latency ]----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Xeon 3060 3600 MHz Intel Bad Axe 2 D975XBX2 i975X Dual DDR2-1000 4-4-4-12 44.0 ns
For me DDR800 3-3-3-6 is rock solid on orthos for 24hrs+, with 2.32v
DDR2 1000 wont even boot cas 3 with anything around that voltage, so I went with the usual 4-4-4-12 and thats what I came up with marginal increases if at all between using either 1:1 or 4:5 however the timings of my DDR2 800 is very very tight for 24/7 thats why I paid for the domc3's but if you dont I suppose 4-4-4-12 DDR2 800 would get pounded by DDR2 1000. So I will go ahead and agree with Gtj on his statement :)
Well, I just tested the the 2 scenarios you describe and 400,1:1 did run slightly faster memory throughput than 319,4:5 but I think it's more to do with the processor running at 3.6 GHz instead of 2.88 GHzQuote:
Originally Posted by ChaosMinionX
Also, in order to do a valid test, you have to run the memory in single channel mode (1 stick) otherwise the effects of running both channels skews the results.
[/QUOTE]Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaosMinionX
Gee thanks. :)
Quote:
Originally Posted by gtj
Aye, while only seeing a valid performance increase on Memory Copy, however had I checked the same timings I know the 3-3-3-6 DDR2 1000 would have destroyed the DDR2 800, but its to be expected running same speed tighter timings whether its synchronous or asynchronous :shrug:
None the less still very constructive :)
Guys,
I keep failing my orthos tests usually at the 30 mins mark after going past the 333FSB mark. What does it mean ? What's the difference of failing an orthos test at say 1-2 mins and failing in 2-3 hrs later?
My stable settings are vcore 1.325 @ 333FSB. vMCH and vFSB are in default levels and ram timings are 5-5-5-15 @ 1:1. To reach 335 FSB, i require a vcore of 1.3375. Orthos fails at around 30-40 mins mark if i were to up the FSB to 336,337,338,339,340. The question here is why an increase of the vcore only nets a small FSB which in my case is only an increase of 3 FSB !!! O_O
set vMCH to 1.6v vFSB to 1.4v and then try booting 400x9 1.4v :D or 350+ 1.375-1.5v is a good range to stay in with quality air cooling or water.Quote:
Originally Posted by hotchoc
And make sure your Ref Freq is 266, and mem freq is 533 so it stays 1:1 and wont hit DDR2 800 till 400fsb. Tune it from there, or what kind of OC are you looking for?
Sorry to repeat this but I really need some advice, it's driving me mad...Quote:
Originally Posted by minsc_tdp
Looking for 400X9 mate. The best i've gone so far isQuote:
Originally Posted by ChaosMinionX
1.5 Vcore
1.4 vFsb
1.6 vMch
380X 9
Orthos fails in 19 mins though and my XP crashed
Ram ratios are 1:1 @ 266:533
maybe, maybe not, but you could be one of the unlucky ones (like me) who will just never reach the 400x9 mark. my voltage needs increased like crazy after 345x9.... i too, was hoping for 3.6ghz.. but it just aint gonna happen for me. :( wish you luck.Quote:
Originally Posted by hotchoc
decide what your max voltage that you are comfortable with, set it, and then work your fsb from there... you may be failing at 380x9.. but could be totally stable at 370x9 at that voltage... still a very good OC :)
Yeah. Ratz. It's a week 28B chip somemore.
Btw,
I keep failing my orthos tests usually at the 30 mins mark after going past the 333FSB mark. What does it mean ? What's the difference of failing an orthos test at say 1-2 mins and failing in 2-3 hrs later?
Hey guys, how would you partition a 320GB hard drive (yes only HD in the system)..and if I have 2GB of mem should I make a 3GB partition for the swap file or don't bother until I get a second physical hard drive and place it there?
Planning on installing XP but in 6 mos or so will do a fresh install of Vista; have read that it needs at least a 30 gig partition.
any opinions? thanks !
With 2 GB of RAM you will hardly ever touch your swap file anyway so it's not a big deal. Making a separate partition for the swap file probably won't add any performance even when you are hitting it, since it's all on one drive anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Last Hegemon
If it's a gaming system, you might consider a Windows partition and a Game partition and use 64 KB clusters for the Game partition, assuming your games are mostly large files.
Vista can get away with 20 gig or so. You might want to make that partition now (or just leave the space unallocated).
Of course for real performance you should add another identical drive (or 3 more) and do RAID-0. It's SO much faster than a single drive.
i dont think a seperate partition on the same physical drive would make any differance. in fact, i put my page file on a seperate drive with a seperate partition (fat32) and i dont notice any difference at all...Quote:
Originally Posted by Last Hegemon
A small swap partition does make sense, fragmentation-wise ;)
Hmmm, is your ram the problem?Quote:
Originally Posted by hotchoc
I 2nd that.Quote:
A small swap partition does make sense, fragmentation-wise
Eh, no point in that. Once you set your pagefile max & min sizes to the same thing, it'll never fragment (since it's not resizing dynamically). Partitions are so 5 years ago :)Quote:
Originally Posted by aicjofs
how to check that? i doubt so but you never know.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaosMinionX
memtest86+ ?
do i check with stock settings or OC settings ??
Does anyone have any experience running the Marvell SATA controller with eSATA devices under Windows Vista on the BX2?
I'm looking to use eSata as an external solution that is faster (much faster) than IEE1394 or USB2 but I am having some concerns about the Marvell drivers that I downloaded from Intel. It seems that to install the Marvell driver package for Vista you are forced to install Apache Web Server (what the hell???) and I really don't want to have to bog my machine down with extra services just to use a hard drive.
If anyone has any insight about above driver situation and/or comments on eSATA stability with the BX2 under Vista, please let me know. I bought a WD My Book 500GB and it's the slowest piece of :banana::banana::banana::banana: I've ever used, I need something faster for backups.
Thanks!
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I wasn't talking about fragmentation of the pagefile I just quoted the whole sentence. I like a partition because you can place it on an inner track real easy at the end of the disk rather then going through a non-windows defragger to do it.Quote:
Eh, no point in that. Once you set your pagefile max & min sizes to the same thing, it'll never fragment (since it's not resizing dynamically).
Sure...Quote:
Partitions are so 5 years ago
Back to the BX2...
So I got my response from Intel tech support about C1E, makes me laugh so I thought to share it. The "advice I got"...
If you look back in this thread from the email I sent. The first 3 lines of my email.Quote:
Thank you once more for contacting Intel(R) Technical Support.
Regarding this situation with your Intel(R) Desktop Board D975XBX2, please try
the following:
- Go to Control Panel > Power Options.
- On the Power Scheme option, please choose 'Always On'.
This should disable the Enhanced Intel SpeedStep(R) Technology on OS level, and
should put the multiplier at the maximum value.
Please do not hesitate to contact us again if you need further assistance.
Makes me laugh, no need to talk with Intel anymore they don't even read what I write.Quote:
Processor model: QX6700 (I'm at work can't see box, but its an 06 week 47 if
that helps)
EIST is disabled in BIOS, windows power management is set to always on.
One of the downloads from Intel is the F6 Driver diskette STOR_ALLOS_1.2.0.24_PV_F6FLPY_MARVELL.EXE. It has just the drivers without the management console stuff. Works fine under Vista. I've got a WD400 hooked up to it via the eSATA cable right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by jmpage2
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Originally Posted by hotchoc
Check the settings your going to be using of course :D
Forgot to mention that the Asetek Antarctica 775 water block has to be modded in order to fit the BadAxe. One of the cap`s nearest the I/O shield will come in conflict with the cooler unless you dremel away some copper.
I`m using a Zalman back plate to give support, this also has to be modded slightly in order to fit. 3 off the cap`s legs will come in conflict unless you cut them a litle shorter, I used a nail cutter to shorten them. The cap`s and chocke`s comes very close to the cpu-socket on the BadAxe :nono:
I'm another one of those for whom 400 will always remain elusive.. I've gone through a RAM and motherboard RMA (one of each), and get the same results when I go 9x400: BSODs, crash before boot, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by argylesocks
I'm running 3.4ghz right now, 1.475v cpu, maxed VMCH and 2.32v on my memory, 3-4-4-9.
I've just accepted this and am quite content at this point.
Watch Dog!
No, not another question on how to disable it. I read this entire thread over the last couple of days and I think that question was asked and answered about 100 times. Anyhow, I am trying to get stable Orthos overclocks and I have yet to have had watchdog throw an error where I was going to be Orthos stable so I'm thinking its kind of a neat feature. The only thing is it keeps resetting my RAM to 800MHZ. That puts my memory speed up over 1000 and whilst I can boot that way, I am not stable. So I have to reboot and lower it in the BIOS. Can we reprogram the SPD profile in the RAM and if we do will the BIOS use the lower frequency? I'm thinking probably.
Sweeeeet.Quote:
Originally Posted by gtj
Did it cause any other problems? I read another thread where someone indicated that setting it up after Windows Activation meant they had to call MS for a new activation key.
They also said it caused the PC to bluescreen and reboot when the eSata device was connected or disconnected.
Just reseated my NB too with as5, lets see how that goes for lowering voltage and stability. :rolleyes:
Hey speaking of that... I've been obsessed about this for a while but never got a good answer. What defragger will let you position stuff on the drive physically by folder? For example, I want all files for whatever game I'm playing at the moment to be at the start of the disk for fastest performance, and the swap file at the end is a really good idea too since it's rarely touched.Quote:
Originally Posted by aicjofs
I should also mention, regarding my earlier suggestion: I made a second partition for games and tried 64 KB clusters just for the hell of it. Turns out the benefit of that simply isn't enough (even with a 4-disk RAID-0 with 128 KB strips) to outweigh the fact that the unused space on the first partition (Windows) pushes all the game files further toward the end of the disk, slowing them down. It's really hard to get a fair benchmark since you're usually moving things around in the process and things are changing a lot. You'd have to specifically set out to benchmark it and make sure the positioning remained untouched, then you'd also have to measure real game performance since nothing could really tell you how each game would react to it (other than estimating based on it's average file sizes and most common files accessed.)
I'd really love a defragger that let me manually position certain things and do whatever with the rest. One way I thought to do it was to hack up the layout.ini file since O&O has an option to defrag according to that. But I didn't want to screw anything up with my prefetching.
EDIT: heh a quick google turned up UltimateDefrag... any thoughts
O&O Defrag Pro 8.6 is what I use, Complete/Name is the best ive found.Quote:
Originally Posted by minsc_tdp
Personally I have only used Ultimate Defrag so I can only comment on it, and can't really draw comparisions.
It allows you to move your files for games/programs etc where you want them, can offline defrag MFT. Suited my needs but there could easily be something more efficent or better out there.
Haven't had a problem with either issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by jmpage2
Thanks for your previous answers on the partitions!
2 more dumb questions:
A- the alternate front panel power led head (3 pins): what are its polarities? in the book it shows the ground(negative) as being towards the edge of the board and in the sticker they included, shows it being towards the inside (reversed from the book); well it's not a biggie because it won't short if I get this wrong
B- for those with P180 cases, did you install your PSU's with the fan down or up (upside down)...I got the Corsair 520hx
Thanks again for all the info.Quote:
Originally Posted by gtj
It also seems (from posts on another forum) that you can connect an eSata header directly to the Intel SATA controller vs. using the Marvell one. I'm not sure what the advantages/disadvantages are but I might give it a go first seeing as it does not involve the installation of any other drivers and the Intel controller can do 3gb/s vs. only 1.5gb/s on the Marvell controller.
I'm building this new rig (specs in signature) and I'm having loads of problems with it. I'm actually starting to think I may have a defective Mobo.
What happens is this:
Problem No1:
I can _NOT_ install Windows (Vista64, Vista32, XP) on the Intel Matrix RAID controller with my Raptors in RAID-0. I can only archieve a succesful OS installation when I use my Marvell RAID controller.
The reason why I can't use the Intel Matrix is due to the fact that the RAID drivers aren't recognised by the Windows install. It just gives an error saying that those drivers aren't meant for my RAID controller. This with the floppy's I got in the box. With the newest drivers from the Intel website (6.2.1 IIRC). It doesn't matter if I load them from the floppy, USB-stick or USB-HDD.
WinXP does load them, but BSOD's as soon as the file-copying is finished and windows tries to start up.
Problem No2:
Like I mentioned, if I use the Marvell controller I can install Windows (only tried Vista32 & Vista64). Everything seems to be in working order until I go and install drivers. The combination of the latest Audio drivers (Sigma something, the intergrated audio chip) and Catalyst (7.2, 7.3 with and without CCC) just gives me BSOD's till I drop. I haven't seen so many BSOD's since WinME, no trouble in safe mode though.
So I can either install the audio's latest drivers, and use the MS-supplied driver for the x1600. Or use the latest Catalyst, and use the default Vista32/64 audio driver.
The board is a rev.505, came with BIOS2333, but I upgraded it to the latest (2674) in hope of solving this. No luck though.
I haven't even got the chance of tweaking/OC'ing the hardware. I've got the QX6700 at 266FSB and 12X multiplier (3.20 GHz) and I'm running the 266/800 strap with 4-4-4-12 timings at 2.16/2.20V. I guess that's a small OC, never ran it at stock speeds hihi. I have disabled all watchdog-like features, although I can still see the multiplier go down in CPUZ when I'm doing nothing (the time I got it stable before updating the sound driver)
Now, my question. Is this something that more of you have experienced. Or is my mobo a lemon?
I tried to give as much info as possible (all by heart, at work now where there's a working computer at my disposal :() I hope some of you have some things I can try.