Yeah, I saw that TD ad with MIR and bing cashback. I almost bit too, but it would have been a complete build so I thought twice about it. Hope they release that bios soon.
i always thought the first chips you make on a new process should be for mobile, the ability to get 20-40% better battery life, or higher clocks in the same power envelope, i thought would let the get a massive lead for the mobile market since those chips are smaller and can be sold for more. but honestly i dont think intel wants to compete with 32nm against their own 45nm, or amds 65nm (which is just now on 45 nm with a serious effort). so in reveres, once amd is on 32nm, are they going to release mobile chips right away or wait over a year after desktop is out?
All this would make the end a 2010 an interesting period! The release of X25-M G3, rumored release of Bulldozer, rumored release of mainstream 6-cores from Intel, ATI Southern Islands and most definitely more I'm missing or haven't heard about yet.
So many toys, so little time (and money :()
its so funny that you all think that intel does not have any problems with 32nm there is a small problem there and that is causing a problem with the production
The cost of 32nm is too high, and according to the lately news, Intel's 32nm products are in short supply. Looks like Intel has very serious problem with 32nm products.
Every new process takes a while to flood demand for it. Intel's 45nm launch was much, much worse. It doesn't in and of itself indicate problems so much as high demand for a ramping process.
Considering they just announced they are pulling in the startup of the other 2 32nm fabs, it would seem like they've solved whatever issue you are claiming, unless you're claiming lower than expected yields.
They've also said the demand-backlog for the new parts will be met by the end of this quarter.
So... going to need a little more specificity, please.
Yeah it's just high demand,I doubt they have any serious problem.
Intel does not openly disclose such things so no source. :rolleyes:
I am claiming that and the problem was very prevalent in the i9 A0's the problem has something to do with the voltage sensitivities on some chips.
I have heard of reject chips that ran them selfs to the ground on normal volts.
The problem is being fixed and soon will be done with.
Lower than estimated production is a problem they will get it fixed and i think laptop i3/i5's are in more demand than the desktop ones could be wrong tough.
The 45nm had problems and even it that the initial production capability was reduced a lot and that was fixed after 2-3 months of inception same will be the case with the 32nm process.
Oddly, AMD, IBM and Intel all claim shrinks are extremely cost effective -- it is costs that drives Moore's Law.
There are two ways to look at limited supply. Either a) production problems or b) demand has simply out stripped supply. There is not enough information available to know which one is the major contributor, but given the trend QoQ and YoY shipments in units, Q1 record unit shipments, then I suspect the latter.
It may have something to do with the 18 months delay in the 32nm
Lithography scanners from Nikon which Intel uses. The NSR-S620 was
originally planned for Q4, 2008 and it seems it is just now starting to ship.
It's still not listed as an official product on Nikon's website.
http://nikon.com/products/precision/.../nsr/index.htm
Intel can use the NSR-S610C but that one is really only qualified for 45nm
production which could cause yield issues in 32nm production I presume.
Regards, Hans