Intel shows running 32nm chips.

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02-10-2009, 07:06 PM
hollo

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Originally Posted by Blauhung

Sandy Bridge (formerly Gesher) is the new uArch that will be replacing Nehalem. So it's really the upgrade for the whole line.

new socket, or like p4->core2?

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Originally Posted by Blauhung

Yup, and don't count out seeing a 32nm refresh of Lynnfield on LGA1156. This was probably going to be coming out 2010 after Westmere comes out Q4 2009 (same timeline as Lynnfield/Nehalem). Might be 4 core or 6 core (probably 4).

sweet :)
02-10-2009, 07:23 PM
NeedMoMegaHurtZ

Gulftown is single socket high end desktop?

I thought the "___town" naming convention was for 2 socket workstations (Harpertown, Gainestown, etc...)

I thought the "___field" naming convention was for 1 socket desktop (Kentsfield, Yorkfield, Bloomfield, etc...)
02-10-2009, 07:42 PM
Blauhung

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Originally Posted by hollo

new socket, or like p4->core2?sweet :)

remains to be seen

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Originally Posted by NeedMoMegaHurtZ

Gulftown is single socket high end desktop?

I thought the "___town" naming convention was for 2 socket workstations (Harpertown, Gainestown, etc...)

I thought the "___field" naming convention was for 1 socket desktop (Kentsfield, Yorkfield, Bloomfield, etc...)

and you're probably right.
02-10-2009, 10:27 PM
Andrew LB

I think I finally found an upgrade from my Q6600 that makes complete sense! GULFTOWN! 6 cores, each using hyperthreading!! I'm down.
02-11-2009, 01:01 AM
saaya

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Westmere key features
Intel® Hyper-Threading technology (2 Cores, 4 threads)
4MB cache, Integrated Memory Controller (IMC) – 2ch DDR3

not bad for a ~100$ cpu... but i still think i7 will be a lot more attractive than i5 to end users...
02-11-2009, 01:05 AM
saaya

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Originally Posted by Andrew LB

I think I finally found an upgrade from my Q6600 that makes complete sense! GULFTOWN! 6 cores, each using hyperthreading!! I'm down.

and you will use those cores to do what besides burning energy and sitting idle? :P
02-11-2009, 01:14 AM
T_Flight

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Originally Posted by saaya

and you will use those cores to do what besides burning energy and sitting idle? :P

I can tell you what I;d do with it. It would be a folding beast when the computer is not being used by me. When it was, it would be used for the ultimnate benchmarking, video encoding, flow modelling, solid gold CPU of the Universe Rig. I would even add to the wormholes I currently own and network them. :D

I would promise to be careful though. We wouldn;t want any accidents with these wormholes...it could potentially swallow the Earth and that would disrupt the natural order of things. The Continuum wouldn't like that. :)
02-11-2009, 01:20 AM
XS Janus

So, where are the DP server mobos and parts?
02-11-2009, 01:28 AM
Pinacolada

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Originally Posted by gOJDO

I hope so. Otherwise Intel will have a lot of p*ssed off high-end customers. We have paid royalties for our X58 mainboards and we don't want to have them obsolete a year after we bought them.

Ha,I told u guys to skip Nehalem completly, t seems you have a choice to buy no-upgrade-in-the-future i5 or expensive i7.

No mainsteam quadcore is step back :( but hey ! we got AMD now.
Also I wouldnt jump on 6core i7 because like 1 year later 8core Sandy Bridge will come out with new architecture.

I'm sticking to Q6600.No need to upgrade.
02-11-2009, 01:44 AM
Shintai

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Originally Posted by Pinacolada

Ha,I told u guys to skip Nehalem completly, t seems you have a choice to buy no-upgrade-in-the-future i5 or expensive i7.

No mainsteam quadcore is step back :( but hey ! we got AMD now.
Also I wouldnt jump on 6core i7 because like 1 year later 8core Sandy Bridge will come out with new architecture.

I'm sticking to Q6600.No need to upgrade.

i5 is a mainstream quad. Plus C2Q. And who says you cant upgrade your i5 quad? Its just not gonna be with westmere.

And if you dont jump i7. Then when? 1 year after there will just be the next...and next and next.

And if you still got a Q6600. I dont see your issue with upgrading to something like i5 or an i7....its not like you upgrade alot.
02-11-2009, 01:54 AM
kiwi

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Originally Posted by Drwho?

http://eetimes.eu/semi/213402791

an other video ...

Why compare 2 threads vs 4 threads in cinebench?
02-11-2009, 02:20 AM
Shintai

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Originally Posted by kiwi

Why compare 2 threads vs 4 threads in cinebench?

HT vs no HT?
02-11-2009, 02:32 AM
kiwi

They apparently wanted to compare mainstream cpus but it is way too obvious that a tomorrow's platform with 2x more threads will easily beat today's platform in a multi-threaded benchmark :)
02-11-2009, 02:58 AM
bigKr33

So is "golftown" the successor of "bloomfield". Bloomfield is the current core i7 cpus correct? I'm not trying to be complicated, but this is just starting to get confusing. What 32nm quad core cpus are actually gonna be lga 1366 for the highend desktop line up? I looked at the chart, but just want to make sure.
02-11-2009, 03:08 AM
Shintai

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Originally Posted by bigKr33

So is "golftown" the successor of "bloomfield". Bloomfield is the current core i7 cpus correct? I'm not trying to be complicated, but this is just starting to get confusing. What 32nm quad core cpus are actually gonna be lga 1366 for the highend desktop line up? I looked at the chart, but just want to make sure.

Gulftown is the LGA1366 and new i7. Its also the one for 2 socket servers.
02-11-2009, 03:55 AM
naokaji

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Originally Posted by bigKr33

So is "golftown" the successor of "bloomfield". Bloomfield is the current core i7 cpus correct? I'm not trying to be complicated, but this is just starting to get confusing. What 32nm quad core cpus are actually gonna be lga 1366 for the highend desktop line up? I looked at the chart, but just want to make sure.

Yep, gulftown will be the lga 1366 replacement for I7 (bloomfield) and even compatible with then "old" 1366 boards (bios upgrade most likely required).
02-11-2009, 04:54 AM
Hornet331

afaik intel always said westemere will be a drop in solution for mobos with X58 boards.
02-11-2009, 05:20 AM
geo

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Originally Posted by saaya

not bad for a ~100$ cpu... but i still think i7 will be a lot more attractive than i5 to end users...

why is that? trichannel is hardly useful in day to day applications.. even in video encoding. Lynfleld cost of ownership could half of that of i7 (Mobo+Ram+CPU).

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SSD's price and issues with jmicron controllers might be settled by then by inhouse or other controllers... the timing for buying new PC is bad now imo.. unless you are willing to pay top dollar for stuff, that'll depreciate big time in 2 months.. like the price cuts of Intel SSD's recently.
02-11-2009, 05:36 AM
Donnie27

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Originally Posted by geo

why is that? trichannel is hardly useful in day to day applications.. even in video encoding. Lynfleld cost of ownership could half of that of i7 (Mobo+Ram+CPU).

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SSD's price and issues with jmicron controllers might be settled by then by inhouse or other controllers... the timing for buying new PC is bad now imo.. unless you are willing to pay top dollar for stuff, that'll depreciate big time in 2 months.. like the price cuts of Intel SSD's recently.

Because the more you stress the platform, the more 3X Ch shows its worth. It's not made for Casual use and is a waste of money if that's how its used.
02-11-2009, 06:17 AM
TheKarmakazi

Ahh thats too bad I was really hoping for a 32nm refresh of penryn.... it wouldve been my wildest dream come true!! (32nm 8600 :nuts::nuts::nuts:)
02-11-2009, 06:57 AM
Drwho?

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Originally Posted by kiwi

Why compare 2 threads vs 4 threads in cinebench?

they are both dual cores.

Francois
02-11-2009, 07:04 AM
naokaji

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Originally Posted by Drwho?

they are both dual cores.

Francois

I think the question was mostly due to Cinebench being one of the benches that scales with basically everything you throw at it, be it clocks, cores, ipc improvements or HT, so the winner was rather clear from the start.
02-11-2009, 07:47 AM
Morais

Something more about Westmere:
http://www.forumpcs.com.br/galeria/a...mal_intel1.jpg
PCI-EX & IMC on cpu. Rumors says a little performance boost over core i7 on single video card setup (integrated pci-ex on cpu = less latency,but only 16 lanes are available)

http://www.forumpcs.com.br/galeria/a...mal_intel2.jpg
CPU + GPU (a là fusion)

Cheers
02-11-2009, 08:01 AM
Humminn55

Well, Intel's roadmap just decided my upgrade path for now.....skip i7 for the immediate future, upgrade my cpu to probably a Q9550/9650, call it even and wait for the 32nm cpus to hit.
02-11-2009, 08:04 AM
Donnie27

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Originally Posted by Humminn55

Well, Intel's roadmap just decided my upgrade path for now.....skip i7 for the immediate future, upgrade my cpu to probably a Q9550/9650, call it even and wait for the 32nm cpus to hit.

Same here:up: Q9550.

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