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Originally Posted by lo squartatore
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Oh noes...will the world survive?Quote:
Originally Posted by lo squartatore
He is beyond any help,unfortunately...
Can you believe they actually watermarked coolice's screenshots with another(Italian) website's watermark?Priceless!
Its obvious that you are a intel troll and not matter what we show you , you will still say "Biggest Loser !!! " you've said it few times already, if you cant provide any decent information about the deneb chip then don't post at all , and like the man said , it was a bad setup and there where many flaws on the benchies so yeah chill out and cut the word biggest loser , because the true dragon platforms haven't come out yet and we are only on beta bios .Quote:
Originally Posted by lo squartatore
Loosen up will ya
The reason why I am so curious about the pins is because when our friend chew here went to one of the preview events someone there told him or at least he understood that the am2+ denebs will work on AM3 motherboards. So to be completely sure if this is true or not we need to know how many pins this chip has.Quote:
Originally Posted by roofsniper
It's very simple. The cpu could indeed have 938 pins, that doesn't mean the socket has to have exactly 938 pins ;) What you really need to know is how many pins an AM3 board is going to offer.
It's quite possible the response I received could have been a blanket statement as well. My thoughts revert to some agp/PCI E boards and DDRI/DDRII. That said AMD could have left the option there, whether or not a manufacturer implements it could be a different story.
Well, as long as it ain't more than the socket it's all cool:p:Quote:
Originally Posted by VoodooČ
I'll admit this guy makes me laugh. My first thought whenever he posts is ALLURBASERBELONGTOME.
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Originally Posted by Rammsteiner
:rofl: Unless they include a little hammer in the box.
well am3 has 938 pins and thats not even the problem. the problem is that am3 motherboards are ddr3 motherboards and am2+ denebs can't run ddr3.Quote:
Originally Posted by VoodooČ
says who? current am2+ can't run ddr 3, but i wasn't told am2+ is compatible with AM3, I was told phenom II am2+ was....atm there arent any ddr 3 mobos floating around to prove/disprove this so anyone stating anything is based on assumption, My statement was right from the horses mouth.
Horses mouth versus assumption
Once again who is to say its not a blanket statement. Its possible am3 boards support 940 pins and ddr2/3, whether or not the manufacturers implement it is the question. We wont know for at least 3 months or so anyway....
IIRC from a prior chat with AMD, the idea is this: AM3 Denebs should go into AM2/AM2+ motherboards, it's the other way around that won't work (DDR2 Phenoms/Denebs going into DDR3 motherboards).Quote:
Originally Posted by roofsniper
The op is the worst yet, reminds me of that other site that did the tests........what was that line?......they sent them the results because "they like our style":rofl::ROTF:
really get lost......
exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Morgoth Bauglir
@chew then what is the point of am3 if they can both run ddr3? to my knowledge the only difference between the am3 denebs and the am2+ ones is ddr3 capability. i have heard many times before that am2+ can't run ddr3 and you would think that we would know by now.
Makes sense, backwards compatibility is always easier to implement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Morgoth Bauglir
@Chew, what difference does it make then, if manufacturers don't mplement it?
@lo squartatore
please stop spamming m8 i have seen you 48 font in every amd phII thread here ...
@All other
I am a little comfused about the socket thing my self as i bought a mobo\cpu for my little brother for this christmas, the ASUS page said AM3 ready what does that mean "can it just by filware upgrade run ddr 3 with a newer PII ?
Anyways as for benchmarks i am only interested in how good it is in games i am no bencher an Pi is something i normally do in the toilet :-)
here is as I know it....
http://3800z24.info/Phenom/amd_pheno...patibility.JPG
As far as AM2+ having an integrated DDR3 mem controller it appears to have both just like the AM3 variant.
Source: http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...912232207.htmlQuote:
The new tenth-generation microprocessors from AMD promise to increase performance because of micro-architectural improvements and the increased amount of processing engines. However, it appears that the new chips do hide some additional capabilities under the hood. For example, DDR3 support.
I knew I had read this somewhere months ago, but you guys spured me to go look for it.
In short Phenom 1's (AM2+) do indeed have dual memory contollers supporting both DDR2 & DDR3 just like the AM3 versions. Now the question is Will Mobo manufacuters support it for AM2+ and does the controller actually work on all AM2+ chips (probably wasn't tested or required to pass for a PH1).
when it means am3 ready it means that you can run an am3 cpu in there. and because am3 cpus have both a ddr2 and ddr3 controller it can run in both boards. but am2+ boards don't support ddr3 so even if you are running an am3 cpu there is no way to use ddr3 on it with an am3 cpu. if you want ddr3 you will need an am3 board that is build for ddr3.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adonay
lol how many times have you posted that?Quote:
Originally Posted by charged3800z24
that source is from 2007 and is referencing that k10 cpus will support ddr3 but it doesn't say which ones. i don't see why amd would release an am2+ chip and an am3 chip if both support ddr3.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daveburt714
excellent score in 64 bit. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by HondaGuy
roofsniper, if you believe that shat that is posted on wikipedia, you sir are a :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing moron. Any idiot can change :banana::banana::banana::banana: on wikipedia, and for the most part the info on those pages will have false information. There are way to damn many intel fan boys that would easily post false crap just to cause problems.
If you dont know keep your mouth shut. Speculating is one thing, but to argue over who's speculation is right or not is just plain stupid. That type of behavior is for the intel forums, not AMD forums. So my advice, stfu and move on.
wow
sigh im using wikipedia because it is an easy source. and i think its pretty obvious that you can change stuff around when it says edit everywhere. plus wikipedia watches their articles so you can't change stuff around without proof. believe me i have tried it before. i really don't know what i am posting that is so controversial? its all common knowledge but it saves but to get an article there than to google it. if you want me to waste my time then fine tell me what you think i am saying that is wrong and i will find something for you. and considering i have never made a post in the intel forums i have no idea what you are talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by daseto
edit: type am3 938 pins into google if you want to find some info since there is only about 1,850 articles about it. plus if you want me to show you that am3 has 938 pins then ill go and get an am3 cpu and take a picture of the pins.
You may want to tell what's behind links (few words) So people know if it's interesting or notQuote:
Originally Posted by Trunks
that was a bit rudeQuote:
Originally Posted by daseto
@HondaGuy pretty decent clocks on a SB600 So We have hope then...
I too, don't see what roofsniper did to offend you. He seem's to be a fairly well informed forum goer and I've found him in alot of the threads I read/participate in and I don't think I've ever noticed him say anything wrong.