What does your incoherent nonsense have to do with the prospect of a 4Ghz Quad product by Intel sometime during the period they are manufacturing CPU's on 32nm?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacky
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What does your incoherent nonsense have to do with the prospect of a 4Ghz Quad product by Intel sometime during the period they are manufacturing CPU's on 32nm?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacky
No Xeons are unlocked. Nor any reason to do so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacky
No, They could not make 4Ghz. You simply lack any understanding of the subject.
965 i7 with fast memory is faster than 2P shanghai in rates benches. Its all about memory. Replace the 1066 with 1600. Or maybe even 2000.
Please refrain from further ad hominem, thank you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad Boga
32nm is just one single node from 45nm, the transition from 65nm to 45nm allowed 200-400mhz better clocks at the same margins/yields I guess. Now you can do the math with Nehalem (3.2ghz), plus you have a not-so competetive AMD, so what's their motivation to release such a CPU?
They can do it, but they won't.
Shintai explained the same issue to another user expecting, 4ghz at 45nm, it's close to impossible on 45nm and very, very unlikely at 32nm.
I expect 4ghz with turbo mode on for 32nm products, if we're lucky. Do you need to insult me, because I have an opinion?
It's funny that you didn't get that I support your line of thinking with my post, I just used an extreme example.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shintai
Certainly they could do it, it's physically possible. It just wouldn't pay off or even ruin them, low yields, extremely high RMA rates due to failure.
I'm pretty sure that money and yields is more of an issue than anything else. Whether undervolted or overclocked processors could run for years without failure is difficult to say, neither of us has that much insight into Intel's process.
And tbh your post is also close to an ad hominem, not as bad as Chad's, but why can't we be more civil? You do not need to assume that everyone is clueless in the first place...
Lets be honest here. Intel or AMD for that matter could most likely make 5Ghz CPUs that all will last 25 years. But you would pay 10million$ a pcs.
Just because you can OC to 4Ghz. Doesnt mean you can do it in mass production. Nor with quality in mind either. Or economicly viable for that matter. All the errors your CPU does at 4Ghz you dont really see. Or even in the worst cases you just blame drivers, Windows, the game etc.
Not even to talk about failed EM standards etc.
Will these EP CPUs work on the P6T mobo?
They might be the same CPU socket, but they support FB-DIMM DDR3, so I'm not sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tutto
Most likely not, though. Still, the server boards will only be moderately more expensive since X58 1CPU ends at the 400USD spectrum.
Dualsocket doesnt support FB-DIMM. Only quad socket+Quote:
Originally Posted by Macadamia
They should be able to work. But ofcourse might be BIOS issues etc. And it doesnt make sense to buy a more enpensive dualsocket CPU for a single socket. But the 3500 series Xeon instead then.
Yes, they will.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tutto
I have played w/ 6 Gainstowns and every last one of them booted and ran perfectly fine in the P6T (even on the initial BIOS release).
Overclocking, however, SUCKS on these chips b/c the QPI is cranked so high on them by default. A 2.4GHz Gainstown maxes out at a 3.2GHz overclock b/c QPI hits 4GHz (and there are no options to clock down the QPI, since they are locked chips).