How many HD4870 still work?

Dave in the other thread Wizzard already concluded this is not true.

I have the production BIOS. I have compared the filesizes of both those w1zzard has on his download site and one just captured in that thread to the production BIOS - they are different.

The tools that people are using to capture the BIOS with appear not to be capturing the full BIOS.

there are too many threads on the same topic, a merge is badly needed I think:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=192906
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=192759
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=192937

+ other HD48xx related threads where failures are also reported!

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Originally Posted by Dave Baumann

I have the production BIOS. I have compared the filesizes of both those w1zzard has on his download site and one just captured in that thread to the production BIOS - they are different.

The tools that people are using to capture the BIOS with appear not to be capturing the full BIOS.

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Try to get in touch with Wizzard at techpowerup if he's not responding here? If it's the bioses being spread there.. ow boy not good :(

Edit: also, I wasn't sure it already been admitted that those whose card died without flashing were lying?

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Originally Posted by Marvin_The_Martian

also, I wasn't sure it already been admitted that those whose card died without flashing were lying?

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While that isn't impossible, accusing people of lying when we still have insufficient information about the cause is a bit rude, IMO.

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Originally Posted by Solus Corvus

While that isn't impossible, accusing people of lying when we still have insufficient information about the cause is a bit rude, IMO.

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Which is why I posted the above, I share your feelings on that subject. Mainly because I believed the posters who said they done nothing, and I don't enjoy being lied to so I'm just hoping this stuff does not turn out to be limited to some xs users doing things we know can kill hardware as I gone out off my way trying to defend this site and it's community from exactly that perception.

Edit: and I posted an alternative in the other thread since I can't believe Wizzard would say it weren't the bioses if he weren't certain. Could be the server is truncating dowloads from Techpowerup resulting in corrupted bioses. But those wouldn't flash anyway I believe. In all cases, this is a strange happening right here.

its fixed thanks to w1z

http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/...ng/vidcard/152

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Originally Posted by MikeB12

imo, he's saying don't hack your bios.... ccc oc ok...

that's what I'm reading here.. keep the warranty in tact..

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Yep :yepp:

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Originally Posted by Edin

Ironically I read lots of people (here and on other forums) laughing about posts in XS about dying cards... many say we are to blaim to have dead cards for flashinng the BIOS

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I think what you are describing is a kinda back-lash for the boy that called "Wolf!"

Due to the power of the web and the rumour mill the news we recieved in the UK was that the new HD4870's were failing left right and centre! :eek:

I spent a little while reading through the threads here and it did become quite clear that people had tampered with their cards in some way and when they stopped working a few guys started complaining "What's this junk that ATI are releasing!"

While overclocking and modding and tweaking are fun some people need to get it through their brain that there is always a risk in completely destroying your precious new toy, it's happened to me before (once or twice cough!) and only make me more cautious when I approach things in the future.

As such I personally never overclock or tweak any new hardware until I am sure its running A1 tip-top at stock, that way at least when I start abusing the poor hardware and it goes tits up I know where the problem came from! :doh:

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Originally Posted by Edin

they call people who make new ways to do things noobs... I wonder who's a noob here :)

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It's you Edin, right now you are the king of the XtremeSystem nOObs, all hail King Edin nOObzilla! :ROTF:

P.S: I'm glad alot of peeps have got their cards working again, hopefully in the future they may all be a bit more cautious when modifying their lovely new shiny hardware! :up:

I'm going to go with: 1. Don't flash the BIOS (bad idea anyway, imo)
2. Don't OC (yet)
3. Qimonda sucks.

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Originally Posted by Swatrecon_

Qimonda sucks.

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maybe they do, maybe they don't. but the problem we had on this forum had nothing to do with Qimonda and everything to do with a completely understandable detail overlooked by us in the OC community. the problem was fixed and all's well now. Qimonda didn't do anything wrong.

Yeah, none of the revived cards had memory die so it really isn't GDDR5 or Qimonda at all.

Not yet anyways. Hope it stays that way.

I'm amused by the fact that people are blaming Qimonda (I couldn't comment on the quality/durability of their GDDR5, only their DDR2 ICs, and yes, it sucks) for their own BIOS flashing shenanigans.

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Originally Posted by zanzabar

i wouldent blame ati on this its most likly qimondas doing, and all of the cards are the same reference then they get thier sticker on some so brand dosnt matter

im waiting for samsung or hynks based cards to come out



also there are 280gtx dieing as well and they use qib as well as the 8800gt 1st batch and some 3850 that shipped with qib so...

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when are the samsung or hynks boards coming out