Insulation guide

Just picked up some neoprene, 10mm and 2mm.

I remember seeing a drawing for the Vapo style 775 gasket, but can't find it.

Would anybody remember the link?

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Originally Posted by umop ap!sdn

Anyone know any local places I could pick up some neoprene or armaflex

Sears ?? Walmart ?? anywhere ??

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The Home Depot and Lowes both carry full lines of armaflex, they'll be in the house insulation section. I have yet to source neoprene within Atlanta, if you find some let me know.

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Originally Posted by afireinside

I don't like messing with all the sticky foam and grease so I just sealed everything air tight. That's all that matters.

http://afireinside.evilspork.net/AFI/AM2/IMG_0741.JPG

1/2" neoprene around back plate held down by lexan (1/8th inche but 1/4th would be much better)

http://afireinside.evilspork.net/AFI/AM2/IMG_0744.JPG

Neoprene gasket around socket just like ssilencer showed


Something to make an airtight seal between evap mount plate and gasket, and press down. I went with another, smaller gasket and a load of paper towels. A foam "donut" like this would work better but with a 3" cooler and this board I didn't have room.



Nail polish also works very well and would be a good idea if you bench in high humidity. It comes off easily with some acetone, a few paper towels, and an old tooth brush. Or you can just leave it. I'm sick of dealing with dielectric grease and sticky foam tape, it's just to much of a pain to clean.

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Thats not "air tight" by a long shot. First of you have air behind that acrylic plate in the middle. Second you have air inside your socket which will rust your pins off if not kill everything.

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Originally Posted by epion2985

Thats not "air tight" by a long shot. First of you have air behind that acrylic plate in the middle. Second you have air inside your socket which will rust your pins off if not kill everything.

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There is nothing wrong with the way he has that socket insulated, as long as "outside" air doesn't get in there is no need for anything else. Look at "Kinpin's" DI/LN2 insulation guide and that is exactly how he does it for extended LN2 runs.

I'd be interested in seeing your insulation pics on your chiller cpu block, if you have a better system.

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Originally Posted by boshuter

There is nothing wrong with the way he has that socket insulated, as long as "outside" air doesn't get in there is no need for anything else.

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Wrong. There is air in his socket, hence there is water in his socket that will condense. And that has been shown to do some serious damage.

Also there is air in the center of that plate, hence there is water, which will condense. Which is a problem unless he has sprayed his mobo back there with something.

Maybe he lives in a very low humidity climate, maybe his house is very dry, I don't know, but this type of neglect has been shown to do damage. Otherwise I wonder why the majority of people use dielectric compounds to fill the socket, must be just a trend right :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by epion2985

Wrong. There is air in his socket, hence there is water in his socket that will condense. And that has been shown to do some serious damage.

Also there is air in the center of that plate, hence there is water, which will condense. Which is a problem unless he has sprayed his mobo back there with something.

Maybe he lives in a very low humidity climate, maybe his house is very dry, I don't know, but this type of neglect has been shown to do damage. Otherwise I wonder why the majority of people use dielectric compounds to fill the socket, must be just a trend right :rolleyes:

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I agree, the gaps should be filled with Dieelectric grease

first post on these forums and I will definately use this guide for my phase unit by the way nice forum.:)

:welcome: Shagg
These guys IMO are the best around period
Very helpful and extremely knowledgeable.:yepp:

Thanks I'm familiar with a few from pm's and another forum. Very nice information on this forum and will help me with my future build thanks for the welcome:up:

Man, thanks a lot! I really appreciate you taking the time to get this together. I’m going to use it as my guide. I’d rather take the extra precautions you took and have too much protection than save myself a few minutes and/or a few dollars and have a fried motherboard. Thanks again.

Thank you guys, nice to see people keeps getting good use of it :)

This is just a bump to respectfully request this be stickied.

It already is stickied, you have to check the stickies :)

this is a great guide but I might just have 1 question though, its probably a stupid one because Im fairly new to the pre installation of phase change.

here goes...

Wont the varnish and other stuff you put on the motherboard but particularly the varnish cause issues with the board later down the road, like for example on the R50s on an evga 680i, if one was to smother them with conformal coating, dielectric grease and even so if the varnish was making contact with it as its near the socket on this board, then would this not cause problems especially when some users like to stick BGA sinks over the R50s to keep them cool... I imagine the TIM would react with the materials being used for insulation here?

Thanks in advance for your answer to my probably stupid question :(

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Originally Posted by hecktic

this is a great guide but I might just have 1 question though, its probably a stupid one because Im fairly new to the pre installation of phase change.

here goes...

Wont the varnish and other stuff you put on the motherboard but particularly the varnish cause issues with the board later down the road, like for example on the R50s on an evga 680i, if one was to smother them with conformal coating, dielectric grease and even so if the varnish was making contact with it as its near the socket on this board, then would this not cause problems especially when some users like to stick BGA sinks over the R50s to keep them cool... I imagine the TIM would react with the materials being used for insulation here?

Thanks in advance for your answer to my probably stupid question :(

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the power circuits tend to benefit from the cooling used since they are so close to the socket. for instance my dfi r600 board has a pwm sensor and temp hovers about 3c idle and only reaches about 12c when benching hard. even though they are buried in liquid electrical tape and armaflex.
anything within about 5cm of the socket seems to benifit from the phase cooling.

How to clean dielectric grease from into LGA 775 socket?

Now a days people recommend me not to use grease for only benchs... only that i need, is to make a good insulation over board, and make sure than after every session keep out evap and cpu... to make sure that there isn`t condensation...