well......................i have a ccbwe 0609 fpaw retail coming, cant believe i was retarded enough to buy one off ebay.
not sure if i want to even try clocking it, or just turn around and sell it.
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well......................i have a ccbwe 0609 fpaw retail coming, cant believe i was retarded enough to buy one off ebay.
not sure if i want to even try clocking it, or just turn around and sell it.
With or without IHS, and what cooling?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spazilton
well. i'm not sure where my issues lie. i tested all weekend. i started at 289x9 which froze during superpi =\ so i stepped back till i could run a couple superpi's. then started testing with prime95. failed. failed. failed. stepped back all the way to 250x9 - failed after 3 hours. =\
i'm thinking the K8N Diamond Plus may be suspect.
What would a barely used retail 170 ccbwe 0530tpmw with all warranty information and ihs still attached be worth now ?
so i'm thinking i should try this chip out with a new motherboard.... any thoughts?
Tried lower multiplier to check if your mobo can run >250MHz HTT ?Quote:
Originally Posted by itznfb
HTT multiplier correct? Ram at lowest divider?
i haven't messed the LDT multiplier too much, everytime i do bad things happen. and i'm tired to reseting the cmos. it will boot and run windows over 250mhz, but not stable.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChkDsk
the HTT multiplier is 9, unless i mess with some cpu to nb frequency, then it goes to 8.5. at the lowest divider i could boot @ 300x9 but not even superpi stableQuote:
Originally Posted by ChkDsk
Additional Question:
do i HAVE to lower the LDT multi to get over 250mhz? or does that just better your chances?
Well if I have any OC problems with this MSI board its going up on ebay. And I'm getting a DFI. Ill let everyone know how it goes.
What is a cold bug? Ive been hearing people talk about it and I have know idea what it is.
yea, i baught mine for the 16x SLi, but ran out of money and couldn't get the second 7900gt. i should have got a DFIQuote:
Originally Posted by dark_slayer
i believe if its coldbugged it will have issues booting below certain temps.. such as 0c and below. correct me if i'm wrongQuote:
Originally Posted by dark_slayer
Cold bug is for people using phase change, just refers to the chip not likeing sub zero temps.Quote:
Originally Posted by dark_slayer
Your HTT bus has to be <1000MHz for stability
So if you run 250MHz HTT your HTT (LDT) mult can be 4x at max.
Your CPU multiplier is 9 by default but you can try lowering it to find out your max HTT.
this has to be causing some issues. cuz there is no way i can boot @ 289x9 and still not be stable all the way down to 250x9.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChkDsk
by the way, this is all with stock volts. i'm trying to see if this chip will do 2600mhz on stock volts. or atleast how far it will go on stock vcore.
I would lower the ldt multi to 3x just to be sure.
My CCBWE 0551 VPMW does 2.7 at 1.45V.. its wall is about 2.75 though. So not all 0551s are bad! :P
i was going to put together a db file, or spreadsheet to keep track of all the results, i don't know if you want to post the results here? i guess this would be the best place. let me know what you guys think, or if there already is a db somewhere. i just have like 6 free hours a day at work, and i'm bored =\
Quote:
Originally Posted by dark_slayer
That's a good board.. solid voltage and good options for OCing.. good luck and post your results. :D
Anything that helps others is welcome. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by itznfb
Am I the only one that noticed this 0608MPMW on ebay? I just got it for only $350! It's new.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWN%3AIT&rd=1
I cant beleive it didnt go higher, but I'm thrilled!
Nice find.
lol, I been watching it since a week ago when it went up. I pressed up to the reserve price ($350) and it just sat at $350 for a week. Wierd, but nice ;)
Good buy man! Glad to see all that searching finally payed off
Can't wait to see how it does
My 0551 can boot 2.6 GHz at 1.4V but isn't stable until 1.6V. With the HTT multiplier, it really depend on your board. Just keep it at 3x for testing. Check your memory subtimings because a 350+ MHz difference between booting and stability isn't normal.Quote:
Originally Posted by itznfb
Hahaha.Quote:
Originally Posted by dmn_link (Gamespot)
Am I being watched by a hacker?
I just went to change my display picture for my Windows account and saw and account that i have never created before. The account name is ASP.NET Machine A...'s .
:D :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by r3w4
My 0608 isn't gonna go much farther than 3GHz. I tried up to 1.68 (dmm, 1.59 set) but 3.1 still wouldn't work :stick:
Temps are pretty impressive now that I removed the IHS though, before 1.45v (1.48v actual) was 46C, now 1.68v is only 40-42C :woot:
Looks like a cpu from AMD's air cooling pile.
http://img286.imageshack.us/img286/2...ditover1ej.jpg
lol :slap:Quote:
Originally Posted by r3w4
I just got my OEM Opteron 165 from Monarch today and got a 0610DPMW. It's going in a DFI LP NF4-d and will be watercooled. Looking forward to the results!
Same here! Good luckQuote:
Originally Posted by fade2black
Werd, I love results :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Repoman
mmmmm...results are good :D seems to be a shortage of them around hereQuote:
Originally Posted by CompGeek
I know, after that guy complaining about them :rolleyes:
oh well, ill have some weds or thurs when my chip gets here.
What chip is it? Is it a lcuk chip from monarch or do you know what you're getting?
waiiit!!! nobody answered my question lol...
What's the safest you can run a DUALIE 24/7 without it killing itself?
I see all these awesome benchmarks running primestable 2.8ghz +/- on voltages anywhere from 1.45++++
To those running at like 1.5V getting these great speeds, are you planning to use it as a daily rig 24/7??
Curious to know...because that'd be awesome, running at that speed, dualcore, safely.
So long as temps are under control, I would be comfortable running up to 1.6v in BIOS (which would equate to 1.57v or so in CPUZ). CCB1E owners will tell you otherwise...
1.5 - 1.55V CPUZ looks good to me for 24/7 :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by ixtapalapaquetl
Received a few mminutes ago a 165 with this step:
OSA165DAA5CD
CCBWE 0551UPMW batch 0319
seems not bad preliminary, for what I've seen there are good ocers and bad ocers for this step. I'll gona be pleased if is a medium ocer, my first goal is about FX60 sped 2x2600 with low voltaje, this afternoon will test in my rig when arrives at home...
Impatiente is bad, very bad... LOL!!
salu2.
PD: anymore that should consider in the stepping???? usually I look for good week, low 1st and 3rd letters (althoug they seem related directly to the week, I haven't seen any 0551 APAW or FPAW) and low batch number (0319 is not bad at all, but not as good as my 0016 vinnie xDD)
salu2
It's being said that batch numbers dont really matter... Currend 0610DPMW, 0608MPW's and 0609FPAW's are great overclockers... For water/air try to get your hands on these.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave338
you 0551 probably tops at 2.7-2.8
yea i actually saw that yesterday. i was going to bid on it, but forgot about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by CompGeek
well, i lowered my htt multi last night, down to 400mhz, 280x9 failed after 8 hours. 270x9 is still running to my knowledge. seems pretty pitiful. i want to try in a known good OC motherboard.
as far as the database goes, if you guys want to post results you want entered into the database:
user name: itznfb
model: 165
stepping: CCBWE
date: 0604
packaging: TPMW
vcore: 1.35
frequency: 2430
cooling: stock air
coldbugged: don't know
Its from fleabay and its a CCBWE 0609FPAW 170. Kinda forgot that is more than one memcontroller on these now (ccb1e) oh well.:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by CompGeek
just looked at the first post, looks like I am out of luck with my 0551VPMW
Those steppings arent written in stone, you might have gotten lucky with the one of the few from that stepping that clock well.Quote:
Originally Posted by payne280
Only one way to find out.......and of course post results.
Well, I havent seen any 0551 go over 2.95ghz, and that was an extremely rare one @ 1.6v
I need some better cooling before I can clock it any farther
it takes about 1.45vto get 2.6GHz
Currently my 165 0551 UPMW is OK at 300x9, 1.500v in BIOS prime stable.
But I run it 312x9, 1.425x113% for Benching/Gaming. I don't really know which is the problem with that stepping, because it can prime for about half an hour with my BH-5 using the 166 divider, 3.5v. That's 255 2-2-2-5-7-16 1T, not bad at all :)
It also likes heat. With 1.61v it goes up to 56c without IHS and still primes for a while. It can last 1 hour or fail in 10 minutes :D
As I said, for 24/7 it's 300x9, 1.5v but 312x9 got me 13125 in 3dk05 and 39300 in 3dk01 (gpu etc in my sig).
Specs for the database:
user name: mursaat
model: 165
stepping: CCBWE
date: 0551
packaging: UPMW
vcore: 1.425x113%
frequency: 2800
cooling: TT BT
coldbugged: don't know
I was looking on ebay for another cpu. I am highly interested in a 170 now...so what steppings should i be looking for? Some of them claim that 0609 FPAW are doing 3.0 on air/water. Anything you have heard yet?
What are some known good steppings you guys are getting? And from where? ;)
Only the CCB1E 0609s are doin 3ghz, the CCBWEs are doing 2.8, maybe 2.9
my opteron 170 is hitting 2.6 on stock volts without any stability issues, 16 hrs dual prime stable...
Hehe, the other 0608MPMW from the seller I got mine from is at $355 with 18 hours left, already $5 higher than I got mine for :D
With the IHS and Air, mine topped out at 2975.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChkDsk
Repo got his to 3ghz on high end water but needed a lot of vcore to do it.
The CCBBEs are cold bugged it seems, Ive heard they are even bugged at lower water temps.
Definetly, stealth couldn't even boot iirc at stock speeds under ~-45C.. needed to use 1.6vQuote:
Originally Posted by Spazilton
165 CCBBE 0610 chips are also hitting over 3Ghz with air and water.Quote:
Originally Posted by CompGeek
even though only 2 people wanted to participate... i tried to compile a db through previous posts and sigs.... this is completely unofficial and probably contains a bunch of errors. let me know if you want removed from the db, or if you want corrections. this is what i have so far:
@itznfb nice plan..Quote:
Originally Posted by itznfb
first posted updated with worksheet
my CPU was a CCBWE btw.
list first.. mhz/model/stepping/vcore/cooling.. ..;)Quote:
Originally Posted by CompGeek
hi, currently im on an opty 170 @1.35v running at 2.4ghz stepping is ccbwe 0551
also I have found a site selling opterons with a stepping code 'CCB1E 0605 XPMW' http://www.trend4pc.de/ is the site, does anyone know how these do?
I think you should add a "stable" checkbox to that sheet ;)
Good work though
Poor 165:
http://cgi.ebay.com/AMD-Opteron-165-...QQcmdZViewItem
1.808v on CPU-Z for a 32M!
@ Finlay, CCB1E almost always means good
@ mursaat :shock:
He says it's an error :slapass: /me :DQuote:
Initial OC Results done using another processor with similar stepping on water-cooling :
Default Vcore: 1.39V (cpu-z cannot detect sapphire "grouper" mobo vcore readings properly)
Default Vdimm: 2.75V (PDP XBLK TCCD DDR400 512MBx2)
Using 166 divider.
Ambient temp: 32 degrees/celsius
Idle temp: 37 degrees/celsius
Full Load temp: 43 degrees/celsius
1.4v still isnt impressive for a mere super pi run @ 2.6ghz, it doesnt even mean its stable.
just picked up Gorod's CCB1E 0609FPAW so im excited.
i only see a few results when i search for this stepping and most are on water cooling. Gorod says he got this to 3 GHz on water too.
i was wondering what the results were for air cooling. i have the BT and should be getting my stronger Silverstone fans on thursday.
3ghz should still be reachable with decent ambients
itznfb wants the other 0608MPMW on ebay doesnt he? :D
i tried priming 2.8 @ 1.5v and core 0 would fail. then again, i JUST put this thing in so maybe when AS5 cures it will make a little difference with my new fans.
What are temps? Curing wont do much.
im priming 2.7 @ 1.425 with load temps of ~50c. i know curing wont do much, but every degree counts :)
Wow, after 50C you're hitting temp limitations, no woner 1.5v only gets you 2.775ghz.
yup. Gorod told me to keep this thing under 50c for best results. hopefully the Silverstones will make a difference.
Well, for BEST results stay under 45 ;)
I get 39C at 1.55v on my H20, 44C on a hot day.
well in THAT case, for GREATEST results i should stay under 40c :wasntme:
heh. jk. lowered volts to stock and priming 2.7 now. load temps are around 45c now.
bah..failed. 2.7 @ 1.4v now around 50c again. :(
Well, 2.7 @ 1.4 isnt awful.
CCB1Es can either scale well or hit a complete wall. If you can't do 2.8 with 1.5v, then (at the risk of sounding pessimtistic) i doubt it'll do over 2.9 at all. A few degrees don't matter at 2.8x Ghz so much as at 3 + Ghz. Not all CCB1Es are good for 3 Ghz.Quote:
Originally Posted by blazin-asian
I heard the ccb1e's run hotter than the ccbwe's, is this true?
Nice work itznfb!:clap:
CompGeek have you thought about putting /\ that in the first post?
well, the person who sold it to me ran it at 3 GHz at around 1.55v on water. not completely prime stable, but benchable. it seems these CCB1E's run hot as heck. my 0530tpmw did 2.7 @ 1.45v and would have same temps.
itznfb, you can add mine to the list: Opteron 165, CCBWE, 0551, UPMW, 1.55V, 2.575 GHz, XP-90 max prime stable.
Yup :) . Keep it under +50-48 loaded and it will hit 2.75GHz @ 1.40V Primestable , keep it under +42-45 and it will hit 2.8GHz @ 1.42V ;) , i know this chip - been playing with it for a long time :) Just get some Watercooling - it's worth it , you'l get at least +100MHz , those CCB1E's are too hot for aircooling :)Quote:
Originally Posted by blazin-asian
that's so very true , they are hot as hell :fact: :DQuote:
it seems these CCB1E's run hot as heck. my 0530tpmw did 2.7 @ 1.45v and would have same temps.
i was thinking of getting water cooling last week but chickened out with the idea of water around my baby :)
im reading up on water cooling and might build a custom kit next semester if i have any money left after paying off my student loans!
i'll post more results when i get my stronger fans. blows twice as much air as the stock BT cooler and got a second one for the case as well :woot:
For peace of mind (and just darn good practice), you can test for leaks with the mobo and everything else unplugged except for the waterpump and it won't matter if something leaks as long as you scrub off particulate and let it dry. You can do this by jumping the PSU with the whole water loop installed and let it run for at least 24 hours. Chances are if it doesn't leak in that period, it never will. Use spring clamps instead of the screw clamps and get good tubing instead of the cheap stuff from HomeDepot, should be set.Quote:
Originally Posted by blazin-asian
Aside from that, I don't think the more powerful fan will do much for the BT because the stock fan is optimal, especially considering noise. You could drop temps 2-3 degrees by bending the fins to occupy the gaps like so, but it might add noise/strain the fan due to backpressure. It might work even better with the more powerful fan because the added airflow won't be wasted in those gaps.
Opty CCB1E stepping > realy good :toast:
Bought an Opty 175, 2 months old and barely overclocked for £265 (they retail at £380 new), stepping CCBWE 0601UPMW.
Should get it before the weekend I expect, this is what the seller had to say about it:
So looks like it may be a decent clocker then with some voltage rammed up it's ***. Do you think 2.9ghz might be attainable with a Thermalright SI-120?Quote:
Originally Posted by Seller
Ahh at the very least, FX-60 performance at stock volts is definately encouraging. :D
man, i was bidding on this CCB1E on ebay, my high bid was 355 , its at 435! right now. why pay that much? i'd rather take my chances on newegg and put the rest towards a good board or ram
hah, i just saw you said something about the auction. yea, man, who doesn't want it? but 355 was all it was worth to me...Quote:
Originally Posted by CompGeek
Additional Comment:
on the subject of my 0604TPMW, i've come to the realization that using the stock thermal 'substance' on the bottom of the stock heatsink was a bad idea. doh! dual prime @ 1.475v 2700mhz was hitting 56c. i'm going to order a new fan to put on the stock cooler, and re-seat it with some as5. i'll probably get water cooling in may
Another Additional Comment:
I updated the database with the information posted last night, thanks for the responses. this is a database so its pretty easy to sort any which way. and if i knew php i would convert it to a mysql database so we could submit results and such online, view and sort however, but thats probably overkill anyway. the db is starting to get kinda big, and i don't think i'll be able to take screen shots of the whole thing soon.
Rats, I got an opteron to avoid. :(
Oh well, my goal for OCing on my new 170 is only 2.5-2.6ghz, so hopefully I should still be ok for that.
I have the CCBWE 0551UPMW, at stock w/ stock HSF. Should have the SI-120 & 120mm Delta fan next week.
Nice work itznfb, im sure someone on these forums could convert it to mysql if you wanted.
If it gets to big for one shot just take several and paste them together :D
That is what i thought. My 175 from newegg will be here today.Quote:
Originally Posted by itznfb
Even the crapiest opterons can do 2.5 - 2.6, so you shouldnt have to much of a problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by psupef2k
nice! test her good, let us know what your results areQuote:
Originally Posted by Big Deel
i'll try and re-learn php & mysql this week/weekend. i should keep up on that stuff anyway. unless someone wants to help me put it up on the web.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delirious
Here add mine to the list...
Opteron 170 [CCBWE 0609FPAW]
PrimeStable @ v1.39 @ 270x10.0 using ThermalTake Big Typhoon
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y19.../Prime95-2.jpg
Still got more testing to do.
I quote myself (and update with bench/stable data) as maybe you missed my specs :)Quote:
Originally Posted by mursaat
updated ugp and mursaat. thanks for the input guys.
we got a damn good list going here. i've added columns for; "load temp" and "prime stable". so if anyone wants to send updates, you can send small updates to me through private message if you want.
Specs for the database:
user name: periquitos
model: 170
stepping: CCBWE
date: 0530
packaging: TPMW
vcore: 1.28v
frequency: 2600
cooling: amd stock hs
coldbugged: don't know
lo, yep, went for $435, I was INSANELY lucky to get mine @ $350 :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by itznfb
Im so happy.... :D
@ Nondeception
hmm...tempted to bend the fins. is that the BT with the fan removed? is there any special precautions or equipment i should use to bend these fins? i really dont want to break anything.......then again...it would give me an excuse to move to water cooling. lol. jk
@itznfb
i sent you a pm with some updated results. thanks.
The problem is that AMD steppings are mixed so you have 50% of getting burned. The next time I buy, I'm definitely making sure I know the stepping before I get the chip.Quote:
man, i was bidding on this CCB1E on ebay, my high bid was 355 , its at 435! right now. why pay that much? i'd rather take my chances on newegg and put the rest towards a good board or ram
Great list itznfb.
Just popped the IHS of my 170 CCB1E 0609 FPAW
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/6...dp8m9yh.th.jpg
With IHS 2.92 Ghz
Without IHS 3.0ghz is dual prime small FFTs stable only 30 min.:slapass:
I`m gonna ad another rad this weekend to keep loadtemp below 45C.
Hope it makes things stable, cause increasing vcore to 1.55 doesnt help
What's the temperature difference? I'm probably going to remount my IHS soon with AS5 so it doesn't die when it's 30C ambient.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightprowler_77
The temp went down (load) from 50 C to 44 C after removing the IHS.
Okay, so I'm stuck between a few choices here. Either a 170 or 175 from the Egg. Which would you guys choose?
I just want something that will hit 2.8 for sure.
I think newegg ha sbeen shipping 0550UPMWs, worth a shot. (170)